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June 22, 2008
Any takers for Morrison?
Could Adam Morrison serve as trade bait for the Charlotte Bobcats this week?
I essentially got that question from a reader Sunday, in response to a rumor in the St. Paul Pioneer-Press. That rumor (and it wasn’t written by that newspaper’s NBA writer) suggested the Bobcats and the Minnesota Timberwolves might be discussing a deal that could include Morrison.
Do I think the Bobcats would offer Morrison to get something else done? Of course.
Do I think another team would give up something of consequence to acquire Morrison? Not unless that team has what my financial planner would call a long investment horizon.
I’m not knocking Morrison. I am saying his injured knee makes him such a question mark right now that his trade value is dubious.
I ran this past a player-personnel guy who was high on Morrison coming out of college. He said Morrison still has trade value, but only once he demonstrates his knee is healed, after missing all last season.
It’s unlikely Morrison will play in summer-league games in Las Vegas, so proving he’s healthy is months away.
Posted by Observer Sports on June 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM | Permalink
Comments
It's hard to imagine that Morrison's trade value could fall much lower than it is right now coming off a horrid rookie year (although I think he still has the skills to be a 12-15 PPG scorer in 25+ minutes) and a knee injury. His potential value to the team is WAY above anything we could get for him, so it probably just doesn't make sense to trade him right now unless another team makes a foolish blockbuster offer.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 22, 2008 11:53:29 PM
If you are going to trade him, trade him. Get the second pick and draft Mayo going after another California baller in trading Okafor for Elton Brand. Then you have a promising point in Mayo and a down low post presence offensively and defensively. They talk about Carolina boys on the roster of the Bobcats. Get a Duky. Only time I would approve of it. Brand for Okafor!
Draftees*
PG Felton *PG Mayo
SG Richardson SG Carroll
SF Wallace SF Dudley
PF Brand PF May PF Davidson
C Mohammed *C DeAndre Jordan C Hollins
Sounds like a winner to me. Whatcha think? Elton Brand would do wonders for our Offense and Defense up and down the floor. If we are fortunate to get Mayo or Beasley it is going to be "Here we come world". Don't know about Beasley but I can see Mayo.
Posted by: Bobcat FanD | Jun 23, 2008 12:44:15 AM
With that line-up. I have one word. "BALLIN". Go for it MJ and LB!
Posted by: Bobcat FanD | Jun 23, 2008 12:46:42 AM
Thanks for responding to my question.
Posted by: Yeah? | Jun 23, 2008 2:26:30 AM
dude you really think Mayo will be there at nine? How about no.
Posted by: No? | Jun 23, 2008 7:28:25 AM
Send Adam to the west coast, its obvious he's not a east coast ball player...Send Morrison and Felton to Golden State for B. Diddy...
Posted by: Seth Quarters | Jun 23, 2008 7:30:53 AM
Trade this guy for a years supply of stale cheese. The cheese will stink less.
Posted by: CutBait | Jun 23, 2008 7:54:30 AM
Trade him if possible. His skill set is already prevalent on the roster.
Posted by: Token | Jun 23, 2008 8:27:01 AM
matt carrol would bring more in a trade. morrison is able to contribute with points and little defense. same goes for carrol. real value is only gonna come with a package of our chips(like the 9 pick, carrol, and may) and carrol has years on his contract. morrison is at or near the end of his rookie contract. let him prove his worth this year, if not let him walk. still think he has some worth on this team as a scorer.
Posted by: brendan | Jun 23, 2008 8:40:46 AM
No?, The Mayo ordeal is simply deriving from if the Bobcats trade Morrison, it will obviously be to move up from the 9th pick to 3rd.
Bringing Baron back would be great but not at Feltons exspense. We have yet to see the star quality in him. Go Cats!
Posted by: Response: | Jun 23, 2008 8:55:42 AM
I'm not for trading Adam because he started to look good last year in training camp before getting hurt --- I would like to see what the kid can do before we unload him. Besides, it's not like we're going to get much for him. Might as well let it pan out.
Posted by: mike | Jun 23, 2008 9:30:13 AM
I'm not for trading Adam because he started to look good last year in training camp before getting hurt --- I would like to see what the kid can do before we unload him. Besides, it's not like we're going to get much for him. Might as well let it pan out.
Posted by: mike | Jun 23, 2008 9:30:31 AM
The rumor in the St. Paul paper was Morrison and 9 for 3. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
This would leave a flood at SG/SF with Richardson/Carroll/Mayo/Wallace.
Other sites are conjecturing about Milwaukee wanting to get out of this draft altogether for a vet and are willing to part with Villenueva to do it.
Trade Wallace for Milwaukee for CV and 8. Draft Westbrook.
Bobcats fill holes at PF and backup PG, add a star-like talent at SG, and "sell-high" on an injury-prone Wallace.
Felton/Westbrook
Mayo/Carroll
Richardson/Dudley
Villenueva/May*
Okafor/Nazr/Davidson
Tell me that aint a squad!
Posted by: Kevin | Jun 23, 2008 10:00:24 AM
Tell me that ain't just another NBA team - second round and out. Boring, boring, boring! Keep AM!!!
Posted by: Sandlapper | Jun 23, 2008 10:09:42 AM
With Ammo, that team is lucky to get to the second round. He scores 24, his man goes for 36 cause Ammo is to slow to play DEFENSE
Posted by: Kevin | Jun 23, 2008 10:20:46 AM
Trade Morrison and the 9 pick to Minnesota for the 3 pick. Then, trade the 3 pick to Phoenix (who wants westbrook and is trying to move up) for the 15 pick and Leandro Barbarosa. Then take Hibbert at 15. and they still have pick 38 to play with.
Felton/Barbarosa
Richardson/Carroll
Wallace/Dudley
Okafor/whoever
Hibbert/Mohomed
Posted by: Tucker | Jun 23, 2008 10:35:01 AM
there is no way on Earth Adam Morrison is worth the 3 pick, and that's with trading the nine pick and Okafor for Mayo.. won't happen.
Posted by: psj | Jun 23, 2008 11:07:56 AM
call new jersy back about if they still want sean may. jersey has a late first(21)to play with and still their own mid first so they would keep the higher pick and get a good player(deandre jordan?). trade may for the late pick and draft mareese speights from florida(6'10 250) as a bench power player for boards and defense with some scoring touch. then move emeka okefor, matt carrol, and the 9 pick to clippers for elton brand, shaun livingston and the 7 pick (anthony randolph). sign beno udrich(in case livingston is not ready yet) as UFA this summer
bobcats then have
PG felton/livingston/ udrich
SG richardson/morrison
SF wallace/randolph
PF brand/davidson
C mohammad/speights
the team rids itself of unwanted contracts(carrol) unwanted players (may) and makes the front court viable with inside outside combo of mohammad/brand
the draft for us would be is ripe with a potential future C in mareese speights and could also show a budding star down the road in anthony randolph if wallace's injuries dont go well.
height is added in the backcourt in livingston at 6'7 (can be had for low price with injury situation in LA)
Posted by: brendan | Jun 23, 2008 12:23:57 PM
I've heard this scenerio
May Morrison and Richardson
for Piston's
Sheed, Rip
http://www.collegefastbreak.com/
Posted by: ry | Jun 23, 2008 12:46:57 PM
Wow! Trades, trades, everywhere. Morrison does have value- he's marketable (code for white American) and his contract is golden for any team. It contains TEAM options for this season and next, which means that if someone is looking for bench scoring, three point shooting, ticket selling potential they could get Morrison and if it doesn't work out, they're off the hook with $5 million more available next season (This is where Morrison's value is).
I like the idea of tendering Okafor, sign him up for this year then sign Antawn Jamison as a free agent. By tendering Okafor and signing Jamison we do two things 1) address interior scoring issues and 2) move Okafor back under the rim and on the boards where he is best. This not only gives us a much improved 4-5 tandem- offensively and defensively- but also sets Okafor up for a monster year on the glass, blocking shots, and getting easy buckets on the weak side. If he does that, there's a chance that someone will want to offer him max salary after next season, making a beneficial sign and trade scenario possible.
If that were to happen, drafting Westbrook or trading down a few spots for M. Chalmers would make perfect sense. Of course, if the Wolves are stupid enough to give us the three pick for Morrison and the 9, do it.
Posted by: BustaCat | Jun 23, 2008 1:04:19 PM
SEND THE COMMIE PACKING! CHE GUEVARA LOVING COMMIE!
Posted by: carl | Jun 23, 2008 1:47:10 PM
Brendan, as much as I love your trade, you honestly think Okafor, Carrol and the #9 pick are worth as much as the #7 pick, Elton Brand and Shaun Livingston? So, essentially we move up two spots in the draft and gain an all-star in Brand and a player w/ potential but coming off an injury in Livingston while giving up a bench scorer in Carrol and undersized center but unskilled PF in Okafor. That trade might be worse than the Griz giving up Pau Gasol.
Posted by: Mason | Jun 23, 2008 2:24:07 PM
In response to a few posts here:
Brand for Okafor won't work because Okafor is nowhere near the player Brand is!! Are the Clippers that dumb?
Signing Okafor and Jamison won't work because I a little thing I like to call the "salary cap." Actually that's a widely know institution in pro sports that limits the amount you can pay your players. The Cat's aren't know for having a lot of cap space this summer. Okafor and Jamison will probably both be asking for max contracts, even if they take less we still can't afford them both without making room elsewhere on the roster.
Morrison may be favored by some fans because he's white but I doubt he's really going to boost ticket sales for any team. If players were given preference for their skin color J.J. Reddick would have been the number 1 pick and the NBA would have far less African American players than is does now. Talent and productivity are what NBA execs really care about because winning is the only way to sell tickets.
The Morrison to Mini rumor seems like little something just to hold over a lot of bored fans waiting for the draft. Ammo just doesn't have the trade value. Mchale may be the one guy stupid enough to make that trade however. Unless Beasley is available, I don't even like the trade for the Bobcats. The draft is pretty even 3-10. The scenario mentioned yesterday where the cats can pick up two first rounders filling the need for a big and a pg makes much more sense.
Posted by: Jared | Jun 23, 2008 2:46:29 PM
The Suns like scorer, need a wing and young talent, the Bobcats have scorers & wings, but need a PF and PG.
How about a trade were:
The Suns get:
Morrison/Davidson/9th Pick (They will also keep the 15th Pick)
The Bobcats get:
Boris Diaw/Barbosa
We can get a descent PG in Barbosa who can shoot & run and a very good PF who can score, rebound and spread the floor.
The team will look like this:
Felton/Barbosa
Richardson/Carroll
Wallace/Dudley
Diaw/May
Okafor/Mohamed
We can also sign Arroyo, Dooling and/or trade May for a 1st Round Pick in the late Teens.
Posted by: RobC | Jun 23, 2008 3:22:24 PM
Are you joking? Barbosa and Diaw are good players who would be starters on a lot of other teams. No way we could get them for the #9, Morrison and Davidson.
Posted by: Yeah? | Jun 23, 2008 3:32:40 PM
Yeah we could get one of them with that deal but not both. I actually think the Suns would be down for that since they're considering Diaw for TJ Ford and the #17. If I were the Cats I'd throw in Nazr if the Suns added their #15 pick for both salary and to draft Hibbert.
Posted by: Nick | Jun 23, 2008 3:37:17 PM
People seem to be forgetting that the Suns have changed. Mike D'Antoni is what made the Suns a run & gun team. They are moving away from the high octane offense that has made them a great team in the last few years. The Knicks will now be looking for big time scorers, not the Suns.
Posted by: Snoozer | Jun 23, 2008 4:40:31 PM
I brought up the idea of us trading our pick to the Suns for either Diaw or Barbosa last week. I ultimately don't think it's a good idea unless we can get rid of another big contract and pick up another first round pick which just makes the whole situation too complicated to be realistic.
If you think we're getting both Barbosa and Diaw for the pick and a couple of very unproven bench players then your nuts. That trade doesn't work on either side. We can't afford to take on both contracts without giving up at least one of our bigger contracts(Ammo and Davidson are cheap players). On the Suns end, they're giving up a lot of talent for a project big, a disapointment who may turn out to be a good scorer off the bench, and a draft pick. They probably only want one of those three(the draft pick).
Unless there is a too good to be true offer on the table we should hang on to Morrison. His trade value is so low right now and we still don't know what he can do as a pro. After his performance this season we'll be able to assess his worth more clearly. If he performs poorly his stock won't have dropped any lower than it already is and we won't feel like we're giving up on his potential by letting him go. If he turns things around this year and plays well off the bench then his stock rises and we can start having realistic talks about getting something worthwhile back in a trade. If he does perform well it doesn't hurt to have another scorer on the team either.
Posted by: Jared | Jun 23, 2008 5:05:28 PM
Snoozer, your statement is pretty irrelevant. Morrison isn't a "big time scorer" in the first place and the Knicks have nothing to give away, unless of course a team wants Jerome James or Jared Jeffries. And I still feel the Suns will be a fast paced team if they have any plans of competing in the West.
Posted by: Nick | Jun 23, 2008 5:26:54 PM
only way the phoenix trade would work is to make the players G.wallace and ammo and 9 and take barbosa,diaw, and 15th(Hibbert).I would then trade oak to a team needing a big, or keep him for a year. The starting lineup could be
Hibbert/Oak?nazr
Diaw/may/davidson
j.rich/dudley
barbosa/carrol
felton/barbosa/dooling?
Only problem is brown loves defense and I am not sure what barbosa brings. That could make that trade a possible multi-team trade. The positive is with barb and rich and diaw the floor would be widely spread and would allow a guy like Hibbert or oak, or Deandre to take players on on one, Felton would have more iso and more ability on the pick and roll between diaw, and hibbert. People can hate on hibbert if they want but I guarantee he could at least give you 14 and 10 (same as oak) and actually can play a single position without a and if or but. That team could really compete in the east.
Posted by: faulk | Jun 23, 2008 7:58:15 PM
There is a rumor out there involving Carmello Anthony to the Bobcats. Here it is:
Bobcats: Nuggets:
Morrison Melo
Davidson for Iverson
Harrington the Trainer
the Trainer and there first Round
and #9
It would be a great move
Posted by: RICK | Jun 23, 2008 8:29:37 PM
My favorite NBA teams will always be the Suns, the Bucks, and whichever one Adam Morrison is playing for! I think he is awesome, and trading him so soon would be a lose for Charlotte I believe.
Posted by: Diane | Jun 23, 2008 11:20:34 PM
I don't think that Charlotte could think to trade Morrison right now. After his disappointing first season, and his injury, WHO could take him giving something big in exchange? Charlotte has to keep him, and to prove that his injury had not a bad consequence on him. After a couple of regular season months, they could judge, keeping or sending him away: if he recovers well, at least his stock will be higher than now...
Posted by: Federico | Jun 24, 2008 5:34:09 AM
Miami is expected to draft Beasly, that being said and with Marion there, Haslem will be a good option for a trade. Also Miami wants a PG and need a backup Center; and Bobcats need a PF & PG. How about:
Miami gets:
Hollins, Morrison & #9
Bobcats get:
Haslem & Quinn
See if NJ (they have #10) wants May for #21 and draft Arthur, Speights or Greene.
Bobcats will look like this:
Felton/Quinn
J-Rich/Carroll
Wallace/Dudley
Haslem/#21
Okafor/Mohamed
It seems too good to be true, but Richardson & Davidson for #8 would've sound as too good to be true and it happened. The Heats need salary cap to resign Marion, and after all May is a young backup PF with an expiring contract.
Posted by: Rob | Jun 24, 2008 9:53:27 AM
Miami will get not only Hollins and Morrison, but also Beasley and one of the Top PG at #9.
Posted by: Rob | Jun 24, 2008 10:02:25 AM
I don't get that trade. We'd be giving up a top 10 pick and Morrison for a Udonis Haslem (who played in less than 50 games last season) and a below average backup PG? I'm sorry but thats one of the worst trade proposals I've ever seen.
Posted by: Nick | Jun 24, 2008 2:40:27 PM
Let's try this one, I just saw it at:
www.youaredreaming.com
Hornets Get:
May, Carroll, Davidson & #9
Bobcats Get:
David West, Pargo & #27
Posted by: Rob | Jun 24, 2008 3:38:19 PM
just need to draft a big man like hibbert or lopez if could trade and get both without giving up morrison trade wallace for a lower pick free room in salary cap you have too good defences players by keeping morrison you have potenial good offense and some in free agent market
Posted by: ross | Jun 25, 2008 1:15:41 AM
we need to stick with the game plan stay young just add some size hibbert at nine the younger lopez with a trade and see what we got i like may if he can stay healthy add scorer throw freeagentcy
Posted by: ross | Jun 25, 2008 1:33:41 AM
felton/caroll j rich/morrison lopez/okafor/hibbert/may/davison/freeagent
Posted by: ross | Jun 25, 2008 1:37:07 AM
just need to draft a big man like hibbert or lopez if could trade and get both without giving up morrison trade wallace for a lower pick free room in salary cap you have too good defences players by keeping morrison you have potenial good offense and some in free agent market
Posted by: ross | Jun 25, 2008 2:00:55 AM
I say keep the same team b/c we all know that Larry Brown can change a time a round in 2 years think about what he can do when he is getting new players like morrison/may back from an injury. If everything goes 2 plan I see us in the second round of the playoff this year.
Posted by: younglj01 | Jun 25, 2008 5:15:14 AM
Keep Morrison, and get rid of May and Okafor. May is constantly broke, and Ok is trying to break the bank. If you don't want to be here, kick rocks !
Posted by: Letron | Jun 25, 2008 10:43:22 AM
It seems like a lot of people are assuming the Center will be Okafor. Havent they been saying they will get a real Center for about 3-4 years? someone who will allow Okafor to go to PF.....Or, get rid of Okafor all together. He wont be worth the money his agent will ask for. Plus, this team has been building around him forever....I'd take Mark Madsen for Adam Morrison. He sucks. Get rid of the entire team except for J-Rich, Wallace, and Carroll. Start from scratch, since obviously Mikey's first experiment isnt working.
Posted by: Miller | Jun 25, 2008 11:42:33 AM
I believe if the bobcats can trade for number 3 then do it. I believe that free agentcy is important. The detroit pistons are tired of rasheed's behavior and some say they want him out. So if he gets released then sign him (and he will have chemistry with brown.) if not try to sign jamison because he is a free agent.
Posted by: will | Jun 25, 2008 8:35:35 PM
TRADE HIM!!!! For anything.......like maybe a ball bag and a floor sweeper. And to think we could have had rudy gay........
Posted by: Geeo | Jun 25, 2008 10:22:29 PM
He will go for 18+ this year. He was 3rd on ROY votes as a rook and hurt last year, give him a freaking chance. He's had success at every level. He will be a big time player in the league.
Posted by: Mark | Jul 10, 2008 10:17:07 PM
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