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June 26, 2008
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we're having such technical glitches, so I'll just do my best to paraphrase your questions. Someone asked about the Cavaliers. They're trying to add veterans to max out their window of opportunity before LeBron James becomes an unrestricted free agent. Very much a win-now approach and Danny Ferry might have a blank check from the owner. The 19th pick doesn't do them much good, so I suspect they'd move that for a vet. Also, they're open to dealing Anderson Varejao, who expects a LOT of money once he opts out of his contract after next season
Any chance the Bobcats take DeAndre Jordan at #20? He's gonna be the surprise of the draft and then I wouldn't mind drafting Augustine with their first pick. This could be a good draft if they get Augustine and Jordan.
DeAndre Jordan = a poor man's Dwight Howard and a poor man's Dwight Howard = a pretty good player.
On DeAndre Jordan: If you draft him, be prepared for a long time horizon in getting anything out of him. Same with LSU's Anthony Randolph. You must have patience these days with draft picks because they're so young, but always keep something in mind about the Bobcats' situation: There's real economic pressure to make the playoffs sooner, not later
Someone asked a question about Roy Hibbert, calling him "soft'' No, he's not soft. He is non-athletic -- not much of a runner, not much of a leaper. His plus is genuine size, good hands (a fine passer) and a more sophisticated understanding of the game than most of these guys, after four years of college. He has flaws, and I'm not promoting him, but soft is an odd description.
From a reader:
Trade #9, #20, and Morrison to T-Wolves for #3. They get a shooter, and if they're obsessed with the 'stache, let them have him.
Then trade #3, Boykins, and May (both potential fits or, at the very least, expiring contracts) to the Heat for #2 and Mark Blount. That way, Miami can unload some cap money and still draft Mayo. We get Beasley, unload our overpaid underachievers, and get a backup C/PF.
Get a backup PG in the second round, or make a play for Beno Udrih or Jannero Pargo with the cap room freed up by the departure of Boykins, Ammo, and May.
Guys: This is the sort of stuff that might be fun in chat rooms, but it doesn't reflect NBA reality. For instance, Boykins is not under contract -- he's an unrestricted free agent -- so you can't trade him. Second, this has no reflection of balancing salaries, which is how NBA trades are done. And perhaps most importantly, why would another team consider players coming off year-long injuries (Morrison and May) valuable? Miami would have no more use for an injured May than the Bobcats would.
Question: think we should trade Okafor and the 20th pick to Minnesota for five towels and two bags of chips. I think we'd be making out like bandits.
I realize this is an effort at humor (barely) but why are people so down on Okafor? He was drafted second in the 2004 draft and he's been the second-best player (behind Dwight Howard). He's averaging a double-double, which isn't easy in the NBA. Is he worth more than what the Bobcats offered last summer? No, but that doesn't mean he's a stiff. It's hard to find goalies at the rim, and that's what he is. He's not going to get a lot better than he was as a rookie, but didn't we all kind of know that coming in? He was a finished product, with a limited upside.
Rick according to most analysts and experts, the bobcats most glaring need is point guard and a big center to take some of the pressure off Okafor. Currently the Bobcats sit at 9 and 20th overall in the draft. Do you think in staying at those positions the Bobcats will be able to select players that will satisfy those needs and make it over the hurdle next season and actually make the playoffs? or do they in most certaindy have to trade up to get a immediate impact player? and if that is the case is there a player that will be available that can do that? if so who?
Obviously point guard and big man are the places they need help. But if you're looking for immediate impact from a modern-day rookie, that's a reach. That's why last year's trade -- a lottery pick and a bunch of cap room in return for Jason Richardson -- worked out. But the Bobcats no longer have that kind of room under their cap.
With new reports suggesting that Miami will take Mayo or Bayless, do you think the Bobcats have any chance of sliding up and drafting Beasley?
Ira Winderman, a great reporter for the Ft. Lauderdale paper, has covered the Heat from day 1. He doesn't believe the Heat is angling to draft Mayo or Bayless No. 2. He thinks the Heat ran those workouts to cover their bases, should the Heat trade down.
Rick,
Just curious if you think there is any chance we try to enter the Beasely sweepstakes? Whats the latest on potential trades that you have heard from the "sources"?
Beasley better be great, because to jump from No. 9 to No. 2, the Bobcats would have to bust up its team. Sometimes the deal you don't make is the best deal of all.
Hey Rick,
We've all been amused at how the Bobcats do the exact opposite of what you predict. Why do you still trust your inside source there?
You mean like my source telling me Larry Brown was knee-deep in the Bobcats job before they came out and fired Sam Vincent? Or the source who told me they were trolling for an extra pick in the early 20s? I'm president of the Pro Basketball Writers Association. I know what my peers think of me.
Hate to break it to you, but Hibbert is softer than McClatchy's ad revenue, and the idea of drafting him is more ill-conceived than this chat.
Few things are softer than McClatchy's ad revenue these days.
Rick, we saw in the spring a Panthers football organization that had an aggressive approach in the draft from the moment it began. Do you get the same feeling from the Bobcats with a new coach and a solid core in place that they are trying to make a legitimate run without detracting too much from what they have built up?
I think the Bobcats are being plenty aggressive; they already committed to giving up a future first for an extra pick this draft. The question isn't how hard you're trying, it's what you accomplish. And it's hard -- much harder than fans realize -- to pull off a consequential trade in the NBA with all the side factors, like salary cap, that get in the way.
Are the TarCats really this desperate?
Michael Tillery of the Memphis Commercial-Appeal, writing on the paper's "Memphis Edge" blog.
Before trading for the 20th pick, the Charlotte Bobcats asked Memphis to take anyone on their roster for the No. 5 pick. It's something that hasn't been completely ruled out. Now that Charlotte owns the ninth and 20th picks, don't be shocked if the Griz agreed to take players plus the ninth and 20th picks for the fifth and 28th selections
Actually, it's Ron Tillery, and he's a good reporter. This is the time of year when a LOT is discussed. I do think that Charlotte's veterans are more available for the right price than management wants to let on. Three different league sources have told me in the past 24 hours that Bobcats worked the phones hard, assessing what these vets would bring in trade. Don't confuse that with a fire sale, but change is certainly possible.
Rick - seems like one question touched a nerve there....simmer down.
My question is this - are as many basketball execs as enamoured with getting the next "big star" out of the draft, at any pick #, as fans and basketball analysts are? If you look at the history of NBA drafts, teams are lucky to get really solid backups that they get real benefit from. I would venture to guess that even the solid backups are more productive at their second stop in the League. I don't understand why teams don't go for really good solid players instead of "potential".
Don't the best teams seem to draft solid players? Even if you take Love, or whoever is thought to be a solid long-term player (in Minnies case), at a spot higher than prognosticators say, aren't the odds in your favore of getting more value?
Fred: You sound like a sharp, reasonable guy. Let me tell you two truths about NBA drafts that fans seldom want to hear: 1. These guys seem better than they are because they're new -- "fresh'' takes on more value than it should. 2. An NBA draft typically becomes unreliable once you get in the 20s. Obviously there are exceptions -- a Gilbert Arenas, for instance -- but unlike the NFL draft, quality almost always trumps quantity. I can think of only one trade where a team dramatically helped itself by trading down. That involved the New Jersey Nets, and it worked because Richard Jefferson proved to be a much better player than the NBA at large anticipated.
See ya.
Posted by Observer Sports on June 26, 2008 at 01:16 PM | Permalink
Comments
Rick --
Do you think the Bobcats will even try to trade into the top two? For example, trading picks 9 and 20 along with Emeka Okafor and Sean May to Miami for No. 2 and Udonis Haslem?
Posted by: Gray | Jun 26, 2008 1:23:59 PM
Rick, we saw in the spring a Panthers football organization that had an aggressive approach in the draft from the moment it began. Do you get the same feeling from the Bobcats with a new coach and a solid core in place that they are trying to make a legitimate run without detracting too much from what they have built up?
Posted by: mountaaineerdynAsty | Jun 26, 2008 1:27:52 PM
Do you think there's more of a chance of us staying put with our picks or moving up? Also, which should we worry more about, getting a big or a PG?
Posted by: WvsMC | Jun 26, 2008 1:31:45 PM
wow, Rick's answered 4 questions in 30 minutes. His fingers must be tired.
Posted by: apauldds | Jun 26, 2008 1:32:57 PM
Jerryd Bayless is widely considered a top-4 player in this draft, but he could easily slide to the Bobcats' pick. If he does, are the Bobcats' decision-makers smart enough to pull the trigger on him? Or would they pick someone like Love, Lopez, or Westbrook over Bayless?
Posted by: gj | Jun 26, 2008 1:34:32 PM
Is there any shot that the bobcats come away from the first round with no PG's? I mean if Love is there at #9 and Hibbert (or another true center) at #20, do they take both of them? wouldn't they just look for a backup PG in the second round?
Posted by: kenny | Jun 26, 2008 1:37:05 PM
Rick, what do you think the chances are that we trade to get the #2 pick?
Posted by: Noah | Jun 26, 2008 1:43:52 PM
I have 2 Scenarios, what do you think?
S#1:
DJ. Augustin #9
R. Hibbert #20
R. Hendrix #38
S#2:
B. Lopez #9
M. Chalmers #20
R. Hendrix #38
Posted by: RobC | Jun 26, 2008 1:46:39 PM
Any thoughts on the draft strategy that MJ and co will use? PG at 9 (westbrook, bayless, augustine) and Big at 20 (Hibbert, Ajinca)? Or will they go with Big early (Love, Lopez) and look at a pg at 20 (Chalmers)?
Posted by: Thom | Jun 26, 2008 1:47:26 PM
Hate to break it to you, but Hibbert is softer than McClatchy's ad revenue, and the idea of drafting him is more ill-conceived than this chat.
Posted by: say what? | Jun 26, 2008 1:48:38 PM
Rick, in today's mock draft you have the Bobcats getting Jerryd Bayless. Have you heard that the Bobcats are interested in him? I think he's too good a talent to pass up.
Posted by: DG | Jun 26, 2008 1:49:03 PM
Why all the hype for Kevin Love? I'm seeing him as a Top 5 pick right now. Very good college player, probably a little below average in the NBA.
And I agree that the hate for Okafor is a little unwarranted.
Posted by: Grant | Jun 26, 2008 1:51:37 PM
Grant, Kevin Love has a good outside game for his size, and is very advanced in terms of his basketball IQ given his age. He'll be able to get on the court this year and contribute, even if he'll never be an All-NBAer like so many of these projects MIGHT be.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 26, 2008 1:53:38 PM
Are the TarCats really this desperate?
Michael Tillery of the Memphis Commercial-Appeal, writing on the paper's "Memphis Edge" blog.
Before trading for the 20th pick, the Charlotte Bobcats asked Memphis to take anyone on their roster for the No. 5 pick. It's something that hasn't been completely ruled out. Now that Charlotte owns the ninth and 20th picks, don't be shocked if the Griz agreed to take players plus the ninth and 20th picks for the fifth and 28th selections
Posted by: matt | Jun 26, 2008 1:54:02 PM
I think Kevin Love would be a great fit for us right now, I wouldn't complain a bit if he was on the 'cats this season
Posted by: matt | Jun 26, 2008 1:55:37 PM
Wow, Rick respect the work but do you really feel the need to waste readers time on this blog proving why we should believe you? Get to the good stuff. Don't sweat the small stuff from critics!
Posted by: Brett | Jun 26, 2008 1:55:57 PM
Bonnell says don't sweat the technique.
Posted by: Jubal | Jun 26, 2008 1:59:39 PM
Rick - seems like one question touched a nerve there....simmer down.
My question is this - are as many basketball execs as enamoured with getting the next "big star" out of the draft, at any pick #, as fans and basketball analysts are? If you look at the history of NBA drafts, teams are lucky to get really solid backups that they get real benefit from. I would venture to guess that even the solid backups are more productive at their second stop in the League. I don't understand why teams don't go for really good solid players instead of "potential".
Don't the best teams seem to draft solid players? Even if you take Love, or whoever is thought to be a solid long-term player (in Minnies case), at a spot higher than prognosticators say, aren't the odds in your favore of getting more value?
Posted by: fred | Jun 26, 2008 2:00:05 PM
Why isn't anyone talking about J.J. Hickson with the 20th pick? Forget about the local angle and the appeal to the Anybody But Carolina crowd ... the kid has an NBA body and plays a position where we need help. Put him at 4 and Okafor at 5. That sounds better than Okafor at 4 where he can't guard anybody and Lopez or Hibbert at 5.
Posted by: Hickson At 20 | Jun 26, 2008 2:10:15 PM
Hickson is another player who's a ways away from contributing. I'd be willing to guess they'll take the "developmental" risk at 9 rather than 20, because the upside of that development would be higher.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 26, 2008 2:14:24 PM
Damn, Ol Rick just tore up Fred twice!!!!
Posted by: matt | Jun 26, 2008 2:17:47 PM
bonnell is president of the Pro Basketball Writers Association?!?!?!
Well, maybe this explains why the only day he seems to write more than 10 words is draft day.
And, maybe he was voted this because he's the only one that doesn't let pesky reporting get in the way of being the president.
What does the president do any, knowing bonnell it would be poorly worded declarations on the sky being blue.
Posted by: bonnell=procton | Jun 26, 2008 2:59:18 PM
Bonnell, the Bobs doing the opposite of what you wrote is last year when they traded Wright (after you said they wouldn't), they signed Verajo(sp?) (after you said they wouldn't), and they signed Boykins (after you said they wouldn't). Whoever made that post has a valid point.
Posted by: LeeL | Jun 26, 2008 3:21:19 PM
Just poking a little fun. Didn't mean to cause a stir. God knows I couldn't predict what this FO will do.
Posted by: apauldds | Jun 26, 2008 4:05:08 PM
Trade up for Mayo at 3rd if and only if we cant get to #2 to get Beasley. The other picks, Just look for Chalmers or Bayless. Then Thompson or Hibbert. WE ARE NOT TRADING OKAFOR! The Bulls got our spot anyways with the %ed chances of getting the number one spot. The draft started when the Bobcats got 9th. That put Chi-town automatic in the top 3 picks. We got to get in the top 3 picks. Lord have mercy'''
Posted by: Bobcat FanD | Jun 26, 2008 7:21:25 PM
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