July 15, 2008
May still in Brown's plans
It sounds like the Bobcats’ new coach hasn’t written off Sean May the way so many fans have.
Following practice Tuesday, Larry Brown talked about the importance of open competition in training camp – the idea that contracts won’t determine who he starts or who he plays.
As an aside, Brown acknowledged that certain players – incumbent starters Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, Raymond Felton and (assuming he re-signs) Emeka Okafor – would likely still be the core. Then Brown said May fits in that group "if healthy."
Of course that’s one of the biggest "ifs" the Bobcats face: Chronic knee problems have limited May to 58 of a possible 246 games with the Bobcats.
May is perennially optimistic, but believes this micro-fracture surgery has succeeded. And while he’ll never be slim, he looked as lean as I’ve seen him since the Bobcats drafted him the summer of 2005.
Assuming no trades are on the horizon (and I assume there will be some kind of trade between now and October), May needs to get a shot at starting. He can rebound and score in the post, and what do the Bobcats need more than boards and layups?
They can’t keep playing Wallace at power forward and Nazr Mohammed and Okafor don’t play as well together as they do subbing for each other.
That means unless Jermareo Davidson is far more ready than I believe, May gets every chance in camp, pretty much by default.
The Bobcats are paying May $2.66 million this season before he becomes a restricted free agent. It’s time to settle definitively whether he can help them.
Posted by Observer Sports on July 15, 2008 at 05:23 PM | Permalink
The only way Sean plays this year is if he gives up his "day job" doing aerial shots for the PGA Tour! Not happenin'!
Posted by: mike | Jul 15, 2008 5:32:30 PM
Think Brown would be so fired up if May graduated from LSU? I don't.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 15, 2008 6:00:50 PM
Sean May good be good player, I could see him averaging about 15pts and 8 rebs while shooting decent from the field if he can stay healthy, which may never happen
Posted by: matt | Jul 15, 2008 7:57:54 PM
In all honestly...the Bobs are not a good team. They do not have an All-Star and they do not have a true leader. The Bobcats need to do two things to be competitive: Sign Okafor and play him at center (though he is undersized) and trade Wallace & May to Utah for Boozer. They MUST have an inside/outside combo to win in this league. Name a successful team that doesn't have that? Also, this is the make or break year for Felton and Morrison.
Posted by: Ben | Jul 15, 2008 8:01:02 PM
So why does Felton get four years while Morrison gets two?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 15, 2008 8:12:33 PM
maybe b/c felton has been at least reasonably productive in each of his first three years as well as very durable, while AMMO has not shown he really can be a player in this league and has missed 50% of his games combined with the fact that the roster is far deeper at AMMO's position than at felton's?
Seriously, it is clear you are not a raymond fan but he has clearly shown since his rookie year he belongs in the league. What role has AMMO shown he is able to hold down?
I also think if May was from LSU and the roster was the same, yes Larry'd be singing the same tune. Anyone coaching the bobcats this year is praying may is healthy. As Rick pointed out, the other options are not what one would call appealing.
Posted by: john | Jul 15, 2008 9:14:55 PM
Having hope that May can recover to be our starter is absurd. I think this is Brown-speak to try and keep May motivated and other teams possibly interested. May was never a good defender when at his best health...don't tell me microfracture recovery turns him into a BETTER defender! His cuts and speed are bound to be diminished, as well as his jumping ability. We must get a starting caliber PF (AGAIN - THE SAME PROBLEM AS LAST PRE-SEASON) or we are still going nowhere.
Posted by: Mark | Jul 15, 2008 9:46:53 PM
do any of you remember the game against orlando on tnt 2 years back when sean may exploded for 32 points before he got hurt again. He definitly has potential to be our guy.
Posted by: gobob | Jul 15, 2008 10:01:12 PM
May probably will never be a guy to build your team around, but "if healthy" he has at the very least given reason to believe he can be productive with breakout games here and there.
If anyone needs further refreshers, he was the MOP of the NCAA tourney in 05 and MVP of the summer league the same year. Granted, everything's relative, blah blah blah, but the man can play and deserves a shot as long as he's here.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 16, 2008 12:46:06 AM
I also have potential if I can stay healthy. How is that working out?
Posted by: Dan Morgan | Jul 16, 2008 12:55:29 AM
Camby is going to the Clippers and that takes a shot at their cap space so does this mean it is inevitable that Emeka is back?
I know it is possible that Memphis could go after him, but honestly they are trying to cut cap or at least that is the perception they give off. I also know a sign and trade could happen, but I just don't see the Bobcats doing that.
Posted by: Yeah? | Jul 16, 2008 12:56:59 AM
Damn right, gobob...and remember that game where Adam Morrison went for 30 against the Pacers? He'll be joining May on that "It'll Never Happen" All-Star Team.
And yes, Okafor is likely back with LAC out of the picture. Unfortunately, that means he'll be unrestricted next year, which means we lose all rights and matching ability. We might have had to "overpay" for him this year, but next year, we might not even get that chance.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 1:34:29 AM
Hey hey hey.......actually the nuggets now have the 11 million dollar trade exception cap space so they can go after Okafor. They only have Nene and Kmart inside now that Najera and Camby are gone. So it just switched the team that can go after Okafor. Karl supposedly likes Okafor and may go after him to be his defensive anchor. They have plenty of offensive weapons in Iverson, JR Smith, Carmelo, and Kmart.
Posted by: Roger Thomas | Jul 16, 2008 1:53:53 AM
Okafor is a better man defender than Camby anyway. Camby is a beast with help defense but Okafor is probably a better defender manning up.
Posted by: JamesQC | Jul 16, 2008 2:03:19 AM
Roger, a trade exception doesn't put you under the cap. As far as I know, it has to be used in a trade and would allow the nuggets to take back 11mil more than if they didn't have it. (someone correct me if I am wrong)
For the nuggets to get Okafor, he would have to sign with Charlotte and then be traded to denver for players, and I don't see who we would want on their roster in return.
The market now favors the Bobcats to re-sign Emeka to a 1yr deal or an extension, which is great!
Posted by: Yeah? | Jul 16, 2008 2:52:31 AM
PS DJ Augustin had 30 tonight in a loss. Don't know about his assists or turnovers.
Posted by: Yeah? | Jul 16, 2008 2:53:59 AM
Augustin had no assists and 5 turnovers, doesn't mean much though. There were at least 3-4 passes he made where guys should have converted for an assist. His assists will go up when he's passing to J-Rich instead of J-Mays.
On the subject of Sean May, if his knee indeed holds up after surgery he will be a HUGE addition to this team. He provides rebounding, outside shooting, superior post and passing skills, as well as good defense (When healthy he has always had nice steals and he knows how to hold his own in the post). More than anything, the collective IQ of our team shoots up tremendously with him in the linuep.
Just a note, Super Jermario has looked pretty good so far in summer league. He might be ready to be a good contributor off the bench.
Posted by: BustaCat | Jul 16, 2008 4:06:34 AM
I can't wait to see Larry Brown finally get lazy, piece of sh*t Ryan Hollins out of Charlotte. That experiment is over, with guys like Mays from Clemson in camp. That will actually show effort and work hard. Goodbye Hollins, you suck.
Posted by: Paul | Jul 16, 2008 7:04:11 AM
It's a sad, sad day when your team sucks so bad people are having to say we should over pay for Emeka Choke-afor to make sure he stays around. Guess he'll be getting that "Dwight Howard money" he and his agent demanded after all.
This team is going nowhere and I'm pissed. Does anyone see them winning 40 games before 2012?
Posted by: ben | Jul 16, 2008 7:08:32 AM
I would love to butter Michael Procton up like a warm piece of bread and gobble him up like a turkey. He's a sexy little momma.
Posted by: Sean May | Jul 16, 2008 7:09:39 AM
BustaCat, I couldn't agree more. Honestly, Brown's comments towards May have nothing to do with UNC. If was was set on playing his UNC players we would have drafted Brook Lopez, the best center in the draft, instead of drafting a potential replacement for Ray at PG. May is the only true NBA ready PF we have on our roster. Okafor can play the 4 but then we have no C to play alongside him. May provides a very good mid-range jumper, he is tenacious on the boards, and has solid post moves. If healthy, he and Okafor will actually play well alongside each other. Always a big if with May, but he is in a contract year and has slimmed down, I expect him to contribute this season. I think he goes for around 15ppg and 8rpg which isn't too bad.
Posted by: Mason | Jul 16, 2008 8:48:13 AM
I have two words on why Sean may may actually pan out. Contract year. I am not a big fan, and have booed him at games from the bench, but this could be the year he actually pans out.
Posted by: HJ | Jul 16, 2008 8:52:20 AM
The Bobcats could conceivably win 40 games this year. This team, when healthy, is much better than people think. Brown is a great coach and he should correct the mental errors that cost the Bobcats lots of games last year. God willing, May and Morrison will be at least moderately productive players who could potentially be used in a trade.
I honestly believe the Bobcats have drafted well in their brief existence. I know patience is not a virtue that most fans have, but sometimes I feel like fans are too hard on the draftees. Felton will improve exponentially once he is allowed to play the point full time for an entire season. May and Morrison have had injuries, but I think they can recover and learn from the mistakes they have made in their brief careers. I really hope Davidson can get his defense together. His offensive repertoire is pretty refined. Hollins and dude from France are projects, but sometimes you have to gamble on big men.
I don't think I have blind optimism in this team. They can be pretty good this year.
Posted by: Token | Jul 16, 2008 9:04:32 AM
does anyone here know anything about microfracture surgery? It sounds rather iffy (hoping scar tissue will work like cartilege.) And what about the so-called bone bruise he claims he still has? To me that doesn't bode well for the upcoming season.
Posted by: apauldds | Jul 16, 2008 9:06:34 AM
Token, I agree with you about Felton (cue Procton and his stats.) Go to youtube and type in "Raymond Felton has eyes in the back of his head" and "Raymond Felton splits the double team" The guy has talent. I hope this is a breakout year for him.
Posted by: apauldds | Jul 16, 2008 9:11:04 AM
Just an interesting side note:
From Chris Mannix at SI.com, who is in Las Vegas watching summer league games:
A prediction: The Bobcats' Alexis Ajinca will be a bust. The guy just doesn't have an NBA body. Or NBA skills, for that matter.
Rick: what are your thoughts on Ajinca's'play so far?
Posted by: Bruce | Jul 16, 2008 9:56:45 AM
may being the pf that can play out of the lane so okafor can stay inside the lane is about as big a dream as boozer coming to charlotte. sadly, sean is set "skills-wise" to play that type of game, but his body type is working against that. the injuries are only a result of him being hefty. teams are willing to part with decent players for nothing (camby for a 2nd rd pick) so maybe we can score a 4 that way.
poor reflection of the team so far this offseason has been the ability for teams to do what is necessary to improve on and off the court(philly, denver, orlando, golden state, hell even the clips made moves) and this teams inability to do so. again, brown has no magic wand up his sleeve, so on paper this team as is will no be vastly improved by coaching. in the event okafor really does expect to get max-type money and the bobcats are unwilling to do that(which I think they should not because felxibility is vital) then sign-and trade this guy for the best possibel returns now before he can walk next summer for nothing.
Posted by: brendan | Jul 16, 2008 10:12:17 AM
how can ajinca (or anybody) be a bust at pick 20? yes the guy looks to be just like hollins but we know that right. he should not(will not?) be counted on for scoring, but rather blocks, defensive presence, and general disruption on the court.
Posted by: brendan | Jul 16, 2008 10:22:45 AM
Thank you, ap...we frankly have no IDEA what May can provide us at this point, even if he IS finally healthy. Based on his past work ethic, it's hard to believe that he's been in the gym working on his jumpshot to stay sharp.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 10:23:41 AM
And yes, Bruce...I'm not surprised by that report at all. If he was a good player, he'd have been able to go for more than 5 and 5 in FRANCE.
And yes, Brendan...if the 20th pick in the draft is not able to play at least 15 MPG for his career (and I see no reason that Ajinca should ever be able to eclipse that mark), he's a bust. If he's going to be counted on for his defense and rebounding, we're in BIG trouble. He can't stay with ANYBODY on a drive, he makes a ton of fouls, his rebounding is average at best, and his offense is supposed to be the best part of his game.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 10:30:21 AM
If you don't think Ajinca has skills, you haven't been watching basketball long. He is incredibly skilled for a big man. He can run, is athletic, and has range on his jump shot. He is also incredibly weak right now. Will he be a good player? Who knows. I think making judgements on who will be busts right now is incredibly stupid.
Posted by: Adam | Jul 16, 2008 10:42:06 AM
I thought Ajinca was a terrible pick, but I agree that it is way too early to call someone a bust. The guy wowed everyone in his workouts, I find it hard to believe that he will not be able to "stay with" centers and PFs once LB and the coaching staff work on his footwork and fundamentals. That is just a dumb comment by Procton, the guy can fly for a big. Now, will he ever put on enough strength not to get shoved around, that is a different story.
Also, May's injury could have been caused by him being overweight, but that was not definitively the cause. Shaq runs around on a 320-340 pound body and has not had any significant knee issues. On the flip side Amare had the same knee problems and he is probably the most athletic PF/C in the game. I find you hard pressed to say that Amare's mircofracture surgery and knee problems were the result of him being overweight.
And yes we do know what we will get from May if he is healthy. We have our second best rebounder and best low post scoring threat on the team actually out on the court. Also, he has the best jumper of any of our bigs by far and thus we will have a pick and pop threat. We also have an average defender at best. That is what Sean May provides when healthy.
Posted by: Mason | Jul 16, 2008 11:16:52 AM
If we start May at the 4, who's gonna take over for him for the 50 games he can't play?
Posted by: apauldds | Jul 16, 2008 11:44:08 AM
Mason, maybe he can "fly" in a straight line. His lateral movement is AWFUL.
Comparing May to Shaq is also innacurate. He carries those 325 pounds on a 7-1 frame (31.6 BMI.) May carries his 285 on a 6-7 frame. (32.1 BMI.) Further, I think it would hardly be a stretch to say that May's weight is a lot less functional than Shaq's is (body fat%.)
And again...how do we know what we have? Nobody's seen him in a game in 16+ months. His athleticism was limited to begin with; you think it's IMPROVED off the surgery?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 11:56:49 AM
from foxsports.com about the nuggets. appears they do get a trade exemption, but not enough to pry okafor(or is it......)
Providing the Nuggets with luxury tax relief and a $10 million trade exception to make another move, the Clippers acquired the 6-foot-11 Camby for the meager sum of the Nuggets having the option to swap second round picks in 2010.
Posted by: brendan | Jul 16, 2008 12:23:38 PM
Of course Brown wants May around. Puffy knows every restaurant in Mecklenburg County!!!
Posted by: TP | Jul 16, 2008 12:33:50 PM
I have been lurking here never even attempting to post and the one thing I have noticed is Procton must really hate the Tarheels. And I mean really hate them.
But to say May would not be a welcome addition to the Bobcats is just plain and simple hate of a college B-ball team and nothing else because he would at least bring post scoring and rebounding. Which we all know is a big need on this team period.
Oh yeah Procton actually Sean May is listed as 6-9 266lbs so that should help lower his (BMI)if he can get back to that weight (have a little faith). But maybe he nevers gets back to that weight but we should hope that he does for the bobcats sake. May is a heavy guy we all know that but that doesn't mean he can't be a productive player. Just look at Charles Barkley he did alright for himself in The NBA and he wasn't the prototypical forward. I say be a team player and hope for the best for your NBA team and it's PROFESSIONAL players. GEEZ!
Posted by: Heelsrule | Jul 16, 2008 2:44:43 PM
266? Sean May hasn't weighed that since 8th grade. You do know that listed weights are never right, correct? Oh, and he measured 6-7 at his pre-draft camp, and refused to be weighed.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 3:43:27 PM
Sean May is not 6'9"... when I use to go out downtown to Phils about a year ago I ran into Sean May and I was almost as tall if not taller then him and I was in Sandals and I am 6'6". May has the frame for a power foward just not the height. How many guys have been Barkley's size and done what he did at the 4. Only 1 and that was Charles Barkley. Barkley was just that good. Sean May is not Barkley. You are basically going to have the same team you had last year or the year before that. The only difference is the coach. I am going to give the Bobcats the benefit of the doubt of just not improving over the last 4 years by just not having any kind of NBA head coach. Yes I know Bickerstaff was a great guy but he was not a NBA Coach, he was just a way for this team to be cheap. If this team does not win 40 games, barring injuries to a couple of Key players, Okafor, Richardson, Felton (Felton only because starting or not we only have 2 PG). If they don't get to 40 games then everyone we need to look at the roster and just admit this team is loaded with too many untalented players that don't belong in the NBA. Coaching use to be an excuse, but now you have a guy that has won games so... Game On
Posted by: KNewton | Jul 16, 2008 4:51:34 PM
I read on the Las Vegas blog saying May's father got on him for being overweight while being injured and he's currently at 260lbs, his target weight being 255lbs.
He will be a huge asset if he's healthy, and I'm optimistic he will be this year.
Posted by: connor | Jul 16, 2008 6:50:56 PM
KN, Bickerstaff did a great job as both coach and GM. The players played hard every night for him, and he built the team the right way, saving up valuable cap space and locking up a talented core. If only he could have know that MJ would be coming in the picture to blow up all that progress.
And yes, connor...there's nobody more trustworth on the matter of Snacktime's weight than either he or his father, who was the one who told him to sit on his money once he got drafted.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 16, 2008 7:07:47 PM
Stats and weight issues aside, Sean May is a heady (and brutally clutch) basketball player. Do the naysayers on this blog remember him in the Final Four or ACC tournament? I know that doesn't always translate into the NBA, but it usually does (That's why Mario Chalmers will end up being the steal of this draft, which will be remembered overall as one the best in history).
And on the issue of Ajinca, I'm all for a 7-1, agile, shotblocking center- it would be a great benefit. What I'm not for are the half-dozen airballs he's thrown up so far in summer league. I thought this guy could shoot! I like Augustin so far but I still think we should have gotten Lopez at 9 and Chalmers at 20.
Posted by: BustaCat | Jul 17, 2008 2:19:24 AM
If you read the article a few weeks back you woul know why Ajinca did not play in France. The french team he was on does not play young guys. Ajinca is 19 or 20. Very raw and didnt play basketball until he was 14 or 15. Plus the european game is not a back to the basket game. Their big guys shoot jump shots. It will take Ajinca some time to develop which is why he maybe be a bust at 20. The bobcats need to learn that you take talent in the first round not projects.
My prediction is that he does nothing for the bobcats but has several solid years for another team. We will develop him and then he will bolt for a team that gives him a contract that he isnt worth.
Posted by: rob | Jul 17, 2008 10:40:26 AM
rob, the "young players don't play in Europe" excuse is BS spin control by the Bobbies for a terrible pick.
Gallinari played 32+ MPG, Serge Ibaka played 26 MPG (IN FRANCE!), Nicolas Batum played 27 MPG...the list goes on and on.
The only reason Ajinca didn't play in France is he wasn't ready. And if he wasn't ready for the freaking French Pro League, he won't be ready for the NBA for years.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 17, 2008 11:24:46 AM
May has been productive in his extremely limited time on the court. I don't see how anyone with a brain can question whether he can play in the NBA due to his height. The only open question is can he stay on the court.
Also, Rick said he looked the most fit since he was drafted so that's one non family member who says he's in better shape.
Finally - shaq is 325? in that case May is probably around 220.
Posted by: john | Jul 17, 2008 12:13:43 PM
Is there any possibility that we can trade for:
This guys will be great for us and might be expendable in their teams. Harrington will be the best fit.
Posted by: RobC | Jul 17, 2008 2:39:59 PM
the cats wasted their second number 1 choice. they need help NOW, and they draft a player that will take 3 years to be ready to play. now they don't want to pay Okafor and risk losing him. if they can pay Wallace and Richardson all the money they are making why not pay Okafor. Okafor has his limitations but a guy named BILL RUSSELL had limitations and has 9 rings.
INSTEAD OF GOING FORWARD THE CATS ARE GOING BACKWARDS, ADAM MORRISON, PLEASE.
Posted by: george987789 | Jul 19, 2008 5:54:17 AM
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