November 19, 2008
Bobcats waive Brown, Johnson
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forwards Andre Brown and Linton Johnson, opening two spots on their 15-man roster. Neither player had done much in the Bobcats' first 10 games. Brown was inactive for the Bobcats' last four games, and Johnson for the Bobcats' last six games. It was initially unclear what the Bobcats might be doing with these roster openings. However, coach Larry Brown said as recently as Tuesday night that the team is in need of more athleticism and size.
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forwards Andre Brown and Linton Johnson, opening two spots on their 15-man roster.
Neither player had done much in the Bobcats' first 10 games. Brown was inactive for the Bobcats' last four games, and Johnson for the Bobcats' last six games.
It was initially unclear what the Bobcats might be doing with these roster openings. However, coach Larry Brown said as recently as Tuesday night that the team is in need of more athleticism and size.
Posted by Observer Sports on November 19, 2008 at 02:41 PM | Permalink
So trade must be in the works? At some point you still want 10 healthy players to simulate 5 on 5 in practice. We are down to 13, May doesn't count, JRich is hurt. Hopefully they'll announce the McDyess is coming to charlotte (yes, that's probably a pipe dream).
Posted by: BlockParty | Nov 19, 2008 3:18:52 PM
The Brown waiver surprises me a bit only b/c after the last few games, it's still clear May isn't in shape and can't get it done @ the "4". Quite honestly, I would've liked to seen Brown on Dirk last night. Lord knows he would've have done any worse on Dirk than May did.
Posted by: dtnnc | Nov 19, 2008 3:22:46 PM
One name Jerry Stackhouse, he is coming. Gerald Wallace is on the trading block, even though I like his game. Charlotte needs to make major changes to get that team where it needs to be to receive support from this city
Posted by: hip hop | Nov 19, 2008 3:29:57 PM
Like you, I certainly assumed a trade must be imminent for them to waive two players. But from what I'm told, not necessarily so. They made a decision that Andre Brown and Linton Johnson weren't going to help. They likely will sign another big man this week -- I'll have more on that later -- but it won't be a name player.
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Nov 19, 2008 3:36:00 PM
Once again, this organization has let me down. Who are they going to get that would help us more than Brown would have? And Larry Brown sought out Linton Johnson for his defensive skills. So why the sudden decision to waive him?
Common sense (and being an excited, hopeful fan) would tell me a trade would be in the works that will help our team. For the BOBcats? In the words of the great philosopher Charlie Murphy: WRONG! Wrong. Wrong.
Posted by: Getting Tired | Nov 19, 2008 3:44:50 PM
There has to be a trade in the works, no way around it. These guys weren't making any $, so something has to be up. Obviously, I'm being optimistic (something Bobcats fans should never do).
Stackhouse would not really bring anything new, but maybe we could get someone like Brandon Bass in a Dallas trade.
Posted by: Cats_Fan | Nov 19, 2008 3:47:00 PM
If the Bobcats trade Wallace for Stackhouse, I will be officially done. That would be a terrible move. This team needs a PF badly. At this point any able PF will do, but getting another wing player is not what the teams needs.
Posted by: Carolina bred | Nov 19, 2008 3:57:31 PM
I can't see any way to justify bringing Stackhouse to this team. They're already overloaded with wing players, what good would he do? Plus Stack has always been a volume shooter, the bobcats need to become more EFFICIENT, and the last thing they need is more UNC ties for the national media to rail MJ.
If you're McDyess, and you have no ring, why on earth would you want to come play for a Charlotte team that looks like one of the bottom 5 teams in the NBA? Guys like him hop on teams that have chances of going places other than the lottery.
I'm sure a trade is coming because Jordan is getting desperate to prove he can build a winner, but... I just don't trust the organization to make the right move. I guess as fans we'll just have to cross our fingers, put our faith in Larry Brown, and hope for the best.
Posted by: David | Nov 19, 2008 4:02:54 PM
Possibly scenario is that Okafor and his 12mil will be traded for three players. One a defensive rebounding big man, with no offense 7mil, one an athletic power forward 4mil, and the 3rd player will be a throw away to balance the salary cap 1mil.
Also note Shannon Brown was the player stepping up recently. Andre Brown hasn't done as much and was the one being released.
Posted by: Grim Dude | Nov 19, 2008 4:15:37 PM
I don't know where all this Stackhouse stuff originated, but I think its ridiculous. I like Stack as a player, but he doesn't fill any of the Bobcats' needs. I wish Brown would have played more. He is in better shape than May and I am sure he would have played with more heart. I hope brown lands on a team that utilizes his strengths.
Posted by: Token | Nov 19, 2008 4:18:22 PM
I can just sense a dumbass move on the horizon
Posted by: john | Nov 19, 2008 4:26:19 PM
Honestly, what player currently on the market would help this team out at all? MJ desperate to try and pickup Tinsley?
Don't see how this team gets any better, just waiting til we pick up Blake Griffin with the #1 lottery pick....assuming MJ doesn't try and deal it for an aging vet with a huge cap number.
Posted by: I sit near Buzz | Nov 19, 2008 4:33:06 PM
My $.02 ... one spot for Jamal Tinsley (when he gets bought out) and one spot for Juwan Howard. Significant upgrades at 2 need positions (PG and PF) and can be had for relatively cheap $$$. Just a thought?
Posted by: Matt Cat Fan | Nov 19, 2008 4:46:14 PM
I hope something is in the works after the butt kicking that they took against Dallas...they need some serious help in the paint.
Posted by: Carolina bred | Nov 19, 2008 4:46:42 PM
The Nets have a crowded frontcourt (Yi, Williams, Boone, Lopez, and soon Swift will be coming back from injury). I would think Sean Williams could be had relatively cheap. Heck, the Nets tried to send us the draft pick that they ultimately used to select Williams a couple of years ago, in exchange for May. Shoulda pulled the trigger on that deal. Not that getting Sean Williams would be a big deal whatsoever, but he could at least block some shots.
Posted by: Earl Cureton | Nov 19, 2008 5:29:25 PM
Bonnell, what are the odds that McDyess may end up in Charlotte? I know it is a long shot, but do these 2 waivers increase that chance? I read before that McDyess would be open to talking to Brown.
Posted by: Yeah? | Nov 19, 2008 5:47:37 PM
probably none...if he won't go to the celtics don't see what we bring to the table..
Posted by: bobcutz | Nov 19, 2008 5:49:50 PM
Stackhouse makes a little bit of sense on the other side of a trade. If they trade Gerald for a PF, then we aren't so flush with wing players.
I still hope that Brown's relationship with McDyess will overcome his desire to get a ring. I wonder what McDyess prefers, being a starter and playing a significant role, or being a cheerleader on the revamped Detroit team.
This may also be a warning shot at May, that if you don't get in shape THIS time, the next move is the door hitting you in your backside. It will be interesting to see who Brown has in uniform for the next game. It would be perfect if he makes JRich put on his uniform, knowing he's not going to play and make May wear dress clothes.
Posted by: BlockParty | Nov 19, 2008 5:57:59 PM
Glad you brought up the Nets. They have a full buffet of young big men. And S.Williams has the potential to be exactly what we/Okafor need on defense.
The scuttlebutt is that the NJ trade never happened because Sean would not have passed the physical. I have no "proof", but it makes sense.
Posted by: DeLaQuest | Nov 19, 2008 6:00:47 PM
Pretty sure May has rec'd his warning shot already. Being called out in the media time and time again for being out of shape constitutes a barrage of warning shots.
Posted by: Kirk | Nov 19, 2008 6:02:31 PM
No way May will be gone. Who wants him and he has guaranteed money. Don't think they'll pay him just to eat Big Macs for the rest of the year.
Posted by: eduardo | Nov 19, 2008 6:38:52 PM
What is more likely a Felton trade or a Wallace trade ? The way DJ has played of late, there would be no drop off at all at the point. Wallace is so explosive and dynamic on both ends of the court, I would hate to see him go, but i know we desperately need rebounding and D ! The dallas game last night was humiliating and i left before the 4th Q began, rebounds and toughness will help us win games, period !
Posted by: Elliot | Nov 19, 2008 6:41:41 PM
I think the stackhouse trade makes sense he is a proven winner. That would make the #1 UNC fan Procton happy. I got out in 03 when did you finish Michael?
Posted by: ray | Nov 19, 2008 7:14:45 PM
I have said this a million times...trade for Al Harrington.
Posted by: HJ | Nov 19, 2008 7:15:41 PM
Dwayne Jones could help hopefully, Antonio and Tinsley are next....OPTIMISM PEOPLE !
Posted by: Elliot | Nov 19, 2008 7:40:41 PM
Dwayne Jones to sign tomorrow...hopefully he will help us out on the boards...Mcdyess and Tinsley will soon follow ! OPTIMISM PEOPLE !!!
Posted by: Elliot | Nov 19, 2008 7:43:33 PM
ESPN BOTTOM LINE: BOBCATS WORKING TO SIGN ANTONIO MCDYESS
Any word on this Bonnell?
Posted by: Yeah? | Nov 19, 2008 7:58:37 PM
Dwayne Jones will help on the boards? He averaged 2.4 rebounds and 1.0 point per game over three years. That will make a big difference....thanks MJ for that move!! Read this article on Sports Illustrated that again sums up the disaster that is the Bobcats:
Posted by: BobRats | Nov 19, 2008 8:16:44 PM
Hollins, and Mohammed, number are better than Jones, why are they signing another less than mediocre center?
Posted by: Clarity | Nov 19, 2008 8:19:45 PM
The Panthers could use any tall bobcats that are cut or have a few hours available on Sunday.
Jake is looking for 7 footers who can just 42" so that he will have someone to catch his over thrown balls.
Oh crap here comes Procton with some important information we all need.
Posted by: jason | Nov 19, 2008 8:20:43 PM
it seems to me that Hollins is playing thorough hoop as of late.
Posted by: clarity | Nov 19, 2008 8:20:56 PM
OK here is the trade that needs to happen.
Send the BobbieCats to New Orleans for the Charlotte Hornets.........ALIVE AT THE HIVE RETURNS.........SUPER HUGO.........FLIPPER.........A SELL OUT...
OK JUST KIDDING......DEAD AT TIME WARNER ARENA.......LINE DANCING.........FLUBBER.........SMALL GROUPS.......DRAFT LOTTERY........
Posted by: bev | Nov 19, 2008 8:23:52 PM
I say we should sign Charles Oakley.
Posted by: Jonas | Nov 19, 2008 8:36:40 PM
It is being reported that MJ and the Heels, I mean the cats have signed the tarheel mascot.
The only thing MJ was successful in was not getting called for all the walking he did on the court.
Posted by: KAY | Nov 19, 2008 8:41:19 PM
Okay, we are going to sign this center. and i think that we can get mcdyss. they were calling him "larry's 2nd son" in detroit, and brown could tell him that he is what the bobcats need to make the playoffs and he could really guide this team with leadership. somehow i feel this wont happen, and mj will do some stupid shit involving wallace or felton. shoulda took gay, then lopez.....sad
Posted by: Luhrsmania | Nov 19, 2008 8:57:16 PM
Why did I hire this Larry Brown guy. Someone reported to me that he was really brown. I saw the lowlight on sportcenter the other night and damn if Larry is not WHITE!!!!!!
How did this happen. I told MJ only blacks, he asked what about brown. I thought he meant a black man with a white mama.
The next time I am in Charlotte I plan to have a serious meeting with both MJ and this WHITE guy.
Posted by: bobjohnson | Nov 19, 2008 9:15:57 PM
Yeah (and everyone else on this board):
Let me educate you on the silliness of pack journalism:
You see something on ESPN's website. It's an Associated Press story. It says the Bobcats are planning to sign Dwayne Jones. It says they'd also like to sign Antonio McDyess. And because it's on ESPN's web site it's a REALLY BIG DEAL!
Here's what happened:
1. I wrote on our website that Jones would be a Bobcat. Don't know if Mike Cranston -- a good reporter for AP -- read that here or found it out on his own, but it wasn't exactly a revelation by that point.
2. Last night, in the pre-game media availability, I asked Brown about McDyess, mentioning Rod Higgins had already told me he'd contacted McDyess's agent. Brown gushed over what McDyess could do here, but he acknowledged it was probably a longshot he'd sign with the Bobcats. And I wrote it in Wednesday's Observer.
Now, AP mentions that, it ends up on ESPN's website, and suddenly old news becomes a big deal.
Bottom line: They're trying all kinds of things to get better. They need to be trying all kinds of things because right now they're lousy (you know that, I know that, and Brown sure knows that).
We'll see what happens.
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Nov 19, 2008 9:20:55 PM
i think we should trade may for a couple of basketballs and maybe an extra net. i believe we can still get serge zwikker or maybe bring back james worthy.
Posted by: terrym | Nov 19, 2008 9:56:43 PM
At what point do we just forget about wins and simply focus on developing Brown's handpicked goldenchild Alexis Ajinca? And then maybe put in Hollins or Jones when Ajinca fouls out in every first quarter......Would it be much worse than anything else we've done?
Posted by: DeLaQuest | Nov 19, 2008 9:57:31 PM
Mr. Bonnell, just for the record I do have an idea of how pack journalism works, but ESPN tends to be right (whether they get the info on their own or from someone else).
I was watching TV and saw on the ESPN BottomLine: "BOBCATS WORKING TO SIGN ANTONIO MCDYESS." I assumed that meant they were in negoiations, otherwise why would ESPN put that up as many teams are trying to get him.
Posted by: Yeah? | Nov 19, 2008 10:17:15 PM
Literally, Stefan Curry could leave Davidson today and be the best player on the Bobcats. He might get his shot blocked every once in a while, but did anybody see his "off game" - 44 against Oklahoma? Can we sign him as a free agent?
Posted by: Realistic | Nov 19, 2008 10:26:05 PM
I really think that if the bobcats get two good players they can make a serious move. And this is my realistic scenario: grab Mcdyess and put him in the starting line up. He can pick up the pick and pop play all day, then Okafor can do what he does muscle the glass. I think trying to force him to have an offensive game is not going to work. His offensive game is the offensive glass...
Then grab tinsley or marbury when their respective management gets through dicking them around and put them in as back up to felton and to run along side him in small lineup times. Plus if you play a small team like miami you can start tinsley/marbury, felton, richardson, mcdyess, okafor - come of the bench with wallace (six man of the year), morrison/dudley, augustine, carroll, mohammed. I feel more confident to say that team can make the 7th/8th spot of the playoffs.
What you think? Holla!
Posted by: T-Dub | Nov 19, 2008 10:45:36 PM
Chris Kaman for Gerald Wallace works....NO matter what they should shake things up....call about SHEED or JKidd.....I dont know what the Bobcats plan on building on right now.....
Posted by: EMONEY | Nov 19, 2008 11:03:20 PM
T-Dub... you might wanna google Larry Brown + Stephon Marbury... For some reason I don't think that will work.
Posted by: Getting Tired | Nov 19, 2008 11:25:12 PM
can they just start ajinca or hollins at the 4 everyday
Posted by: corey | Nov 19, 2008 11:28:48 PM
Here's the answer folks.
Carroll & May for Steve Blake & Channing Fyre,
plus trading Felton & Nazr for Curry & Marty Collins.
Posted by: larry | Nov 20, 2008 1:06:26 AM
Mr. Bonnell, just for the record I do have an idea of how pack journalism works, but ESPN tends to be right (whether they get the info on their own or from someone else).
I was watching TV and saw on the ESPN BottomLine: "BOBCATS WORKING TO SIGN ANTONIO MCDYESS." I assumed that meant they were in negoiations, otherwise why would ESPN put that up as many teams are "trying" to get him.
Posted by: Yeah? | Nov 20, 2008 1:45:21 AM
This once again begs the question... how much better are these guys going to make us? Instead of the 14th team in the east we might be 9th? An 8th seed and a sweep in the 1st round of playoffs? I would hate to see the bobcats overpay a veteran right before the two biggest free agent summers in recent memory.
Also a Q for Bonnell... is there some kind of prestige associated with being the first to report a signing or trade? You see all kinds of crazy rumors thrown around, but if one ever turns out to be true then the site usually starts a follow-up article with "...as FIRST reported by..." seems kind of silly to me but I'm not sure how the business works.
Posted by: Dave | Nov 20, 2008 2:51:20 AM
You have to keep in mind that ESPN is notorious in the journalism world for taking credit for other journalist's scoops. They read things one place and repeat it later as "ESPN confirms that..."
Also, a headline that says "Bobcats Working to Sign McDyess" is a great play on words - it leaves the impression that negotiations are happening, but in reality could signify that our GM and coach expressed an interest in McDyess coming here. Which is exactly what happened...
Posted by: mcap | Nov 20, 2008 10:22:30 AM
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