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December 10, 2008

Bobcats trading Jason Richardson to the Suns...

The Bobcats are trading Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley to the Phoenix Suns, apparently for Boris Diaw, Raja Bell and Sean Singletary. Stay tuned for more updates.

Posted by Observer Sports on December 10, 2008 at 06:28 PM | Permalink

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The Suns acquired dynamic shooting guard Jason Richardson today in a trade with the Charlotte Bobcats that will also bring second-year forward Jared Dudley and a 2010 second-round draft choice to the Suns in exchange for shooting guard Raja Bell, forward Boris Diaw and rookie point guard Sean Singletary.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/12/10/20081210sunstradeonline.html

Posted by: BlockParty | Dec 10, 2008 6:31:53 PM

RB,
I imagine Juwan is out of the picture or are we cutting Singletary?

This could make us a lot better defensively and Boris Diaw will be great in Larry's system. Picture a poor man's Rasheed.

Posted by: dougie | Dec 10, 2008 6:32:43 PM

Just got word from my boy who plays for the Cats. Im sad to see Mr. San Diego go... thought he was a good fit for the cats. Wow, so JRich with Nash, Amare, Shaq. Not too bad... who is gonna guard Kobe? Boris not a bad pick up for Cats, his contract is kinda whack for his output though... very interesting trade. I assume after physicals today or tomm, the new guys will be there for Friday's game...

Posted by: j.p. | Dec 10, 2008 6:34:00 PM

SWEET....BIG PICK UP HERE...HATE TO LOSS DUDLEY

Posted by: DEASNUTZ | Dec 10, 2008 6:35:29 PM

Someone got scooped.


Diaw is at 9 million for 3 years? Bell 5mill for 2? Yikes. Well I guess this is a decent salary dump for '10. Maybe while we're at it we can pickup Ronny Turiaf and Tony Parker and go with an all french lineup...those Bobcats marketing people are geniuses! Diaw is a natural SF at 6'8'' a bit small for PF. Guess this means DJ move into the 1 and Felton the 2.

Posted by: I sit near Buzz. | Dec 10, 2008 6:35:32 PM

I'm stunned. I don't get it...Where are they going to get scoring from now? I thought if anyone was going it was going to be Gerald, but J RICH ? AND DUDLEY? I don't think I like this....WOW

Posted by: Bobcat Matt | Dec 10, 2008 6:38:49 PM

Not a bad trade, interested to see how it will work out. not like the bobcats were winning games with the lineup as it was anyhow...

Posted by: Smooth | Dec 10, 2008 6:39:43 PM

WHAT?!?! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! WHY?!?!?! but raja bell and boris diaw would be good fit

Posted by: Brad Hardin | Dec 10, 2008 6:40:20 PM

Best News I've heard - I hope the Juwan trade falls through. I will keep praying. Bell is tough and plays D and is a team player and Diaw is a very athletic and team oriented big.
I'll miss Jared's hustle but he'll be closer to home.

Posted by: senor s | Dec 10, 2008 6:48:01 PM

Little did JD and JRich know, this hospital visit last week wasn't their last trip together...how ironic.

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video_hospital_visit_081202.html

Posted by: BlockParty | Dec 10, 2008 6:48:57 PM

Best News I've heard - I hope the Juwan trade falls through. I will keep praying. Bell is tough and plays D and is a team player and Diaw is a very athletic and team oriented big.
I'll miss Jared's hustle but he'll be closer to home.

Posted by: senor s | Dec 10, 2008 6:49:00 PM

Best News I've heard - I hope the Juwan trade falls through. I will keep praying. Bell is tough and plays D and is a team player and Diaw is a very athletic and team oriented big.
I'll miss Jared's hustle but he'll be closer to home.

Posted by: senor s | Dec 10, 2008 6:49:09 PM

How on earth do you justify sending away our best player (and only potential allstar) for two rotation players who will hardly save you any salary room? The only thing I can think is that Jordan is trying to free up room for the LeBron summer... this move should save $7 million that summer- but which one of those guys is going to be convinced to go to Charlotte when every other team is dumping salaries for then also??? Idiotic.

Posted by: Dustin | Dec 10, 2008 6:49:18 PM

"I Sit Near Buzz",

I now count only 2 Frenchmen on the Bobcats roster: Diaw and Ajinca, of course. So we'd also need to add Pietrus or Batum into the mix.

To everyone:

I saw Diaw play from the 4th row, and I was impressed with his size and strength. I think he is a rather BIG 6'8" 235 lbs--if that makes any sense. It's just unfortunate that his rebounding numbers fail to reflect that.

Bottom line: We lose some overall talent, but maybe we get five legit starters playing the right position--for the first time in forever. And I guess we get in a better cap situation for big free agent summer.

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Dec 10, 2008 6:52:03 PM

I wish it was Wallace and Carroll because JRich was my favorite, but overall it's a good trade.
I hope they're either done trading or make another move quick, part of my problem getting behind this team is it seems like everyone could be traded, and I don't want to get attached to someone that won't be there long.

Posted by: Brandon | Dec 10, 2008 6:52:14 PM

I'm happy with this trade. Both Diaw and Bell are young. Raja Bell is a much, much younger Bruce Bowen with better scoring capabilities. I was a Jrich fan, but I am happy with this trade.

Posted by: Clay Henderson | Dec 10, 2008 6:52:50 PM

What was MJ thinking?

Posted by: Sometimes A Fan | Dec 10, 2008 6:53:14 PM

We'll see if the front office pulled through for once..it does open cap space and brings in some interesting, seasoned players with playoff experience. Keep in mind the Bobcats are not out of the playoffs since around 7 teams have records similar to theirs in the East. Maybe the team will bring some change to the line-up, a new start sort of..but someone is going to need to step up on the scoring end of this, either Okafor, or Wallace because missing J-rich will severly hurt the ppg

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Dec 10, 2008 6:54:40 PM

What a completely ridiculous trade. You get rid of arguably your most popular player, a player the few people who actually pay to come to Bobcats games actually want to see in Jason Richardson, and despite losing the best offensive player on your team, you also manage to increase your payroll. The Suns just pulled off a great trade, good for them. The Bobcats' front office is completely incompetent.

The only possible way this trade will not be a disaster is if we make another trade.

Posted by: FdaBobcats | Dec 10, 2008 6:57:33 PM

JD was one of my family's favorite players. JRich is a big timer. I hope he can win a ring at PHX.

Hopefully this will help the Bobcats but it is sad to see JRich and JD go.

Posted by: Mark | Dec 10, 2008 6:59:05 PM

I love Jason and Jared, but I'm okay with the trade. This team wasn't going to go anywhere with it's horribly unbalanced roster.

Morrison, Carroll, or Bell had better turn into a real scorer, though.

The thing I like about Diaw is the fact that he is a big man who can do things with the ball in his hands. He can hit long shots. He can handle the ball and pass. We need that.

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Dec 10, 2008 6:59:34 PM

Oh, and it should've been carrol instead of dudley..plus since dudley and rich arent gonna be in tonights line up..new orleans is going to absolutely obliterate charlotte haha

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Dec 10, 2008 7:01:36 PM

Clay,

Raja Bell is already 32. But at least he has decent size for his position, and he can really shoot it. Those two factors prolong a career. (Anybody remember when "Big Shot Bob" Horry was a long small forward?)

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Dec 10, 2008 7:04:36 PM

Very interesting trade that I think makes the Bobcats better as a whole...but we'll see.

I'm glad we got the three line blog and link to another city's story about this. I spoke to a friend from a radio station 2 1/2 hours away that has done nothing but talk about this for a segment and a half. So what do I do? Turn on my local sports station hoping to hear about this news only to hear recorded rednecks trashing up the airwaves thinking they sound funny/intimidating by calling each other out. It's a wonder we can get anybody on board with the Bobcats around here.

Posted by: Ray | Dec 10, 2008 7:05:59 PM

Get your bets in now for New Orleans tonight...no Wallace, no Richardson, no Dudley. I wonder when Vegas freezes the line for the game.

Posted by: BlockParty | Dec 10, 2008 7:06:03 PM

ESPN definitely got this story before you did. Where was the inside scoop Bonnell?

These are the types of things people want a beat writer to know about ahead of time!

Posted by: ESPN | Dec 10, 2008 7:06:50 PM

Good trade: Bobcats get another low post player (who can start and score) and a great on-ball defender who can shoot the three. The team should be a lot better now with Brown's system, if a little undersized. They should see if they can dump Carroll/Morrison/Muhammad while they're at it.

Posted by: Will | Dec 10, 2008 7:08:35 PM

Great trade...I am thinking our D just got a whole lot better.

Posted by: eleaf14 | Dec 10, 2008 7:08:55 PM

I really cant believe what i just heard and saw. JRich was this team best player. I mean really can someone please convince me what the benefit with this trade. Please because I really need help to not jump from my Bobcat train.

Posted by: cant believe it | Dec 10, 2008 7:09:55 PM

just a completely horrible trade. JRich, Dudley and a future 2nd round pick for Raja and Diaw? Come on. Bob is unloading Richardson's contract b/c he's a cheap b@stard that has no desire to make this team a success! Sell Bob, sell!!!!

Posted by: ktown8 | Dec 10, 2008 7:12:56 PM

NBA.com hasnt even posted this... so whats the starting line up... 1. Augustin 2. Felton 3. Gerald 4. Diaw 5. Emek??? Or do put Raja at the 2, Felt at 1, and 3-5 the same? very interesting... to see how this plays out. this good be a leverage trade tho. Raja is a hot commodity for defense, Diaw stays, Singletary gets cut. I would use Raja to get maybe a better scorer...

Posted by: CK | Dec 10, 2008 7:15:46 PM

ktown, please SHUT up, you are so stupid. Bob is not unloading J Rich's Contract. The cats picked up more salary than they dropped. Please get some new talking points or stick to figure skating. You act as if you watch them. Do us a favor and go punch yourself in the face.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:19:22 PM

To the trade haters/can't believers:

Face it, none of our lineups had ANY shot at working for the long term. We HAD to fix this roster. Getting Diaw is KEY.

I loved JRich and Dudley, too. Two great personalities in addition to their skills.

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Dec 10, 2008 7:20:41 PM

Poor trade.

Some say we free up cap space later on, but who is going to want to sign with us?

We might improve by a couple more wins because Diaw fills a need, but who cares? In a perfect scenario, none of the players we got back are starters on a championship caliber team. Richardson is. We basically lowered our ceiling for a few more potential wins.

People would rather watch a 33-win Richardson team than a 38-win Diaw/Bell team.

Add in the fact that Richardson is a great character guy.

This is just awful all around. AND WE GIVE UP DUDLEY. How freaking retarded.

The ONLY positives is that (1) this hopefully means we are keeping Wallace, and (2) it may open up more time for our other young guys, ie, Augustin, Morrison, Carroll.

But it's just awful. How stupid can you be. I'm sure you could get more for Richardson. AND WHY GIVE UP DUDLEY. Dudley is not as good as Diaw or Bell, but all things equal, I probably wouldn't give up Richardson OR Dudley for either guy. Richardson is the best player by far, and with a few more years experience under his belt, Dudley could be a Raja Bell type of player anyway.

Just awful.

Posted by: Will | Dec 10, 2008 7:20:55 PM

Back to the trade, this was a great trade. The starting lineup will be
1. Felton (I'd rather have DJ)
2. Bell
3. Wallace
4. Diaw
5. Mek

Cats will keep Bell, because they need his defence desperately. He is a Larry Brown guy, don't forget that Larry coached him in Philly.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:21:57 PM

truth_cuts, go f*ck yourself. I've had season ticket in section 116 row X every year! Plus, my company has 4 season tickets too. I didn't do a cost analysis on some scrubs from Phoenix before posting. Regardless, we lose a superstar for scrubs. Go back to beating your d*ck b/c it's pretty evident, you never get laid!

Posted by: ktown8 | Dec 10, 2008 7:22:17 PM

Raja Bell stinks. Boris Diaw stinks. Basketball stinks. Stinks.

Posted by: Baba Ganoosh | Dec 10, 2008 7:23:14 PM

Though JRich put up great individual numbers, he is not a number one option and was an overall bad fit for the Bobcats. Think about it, the Bobcats do lose a great offensive player who shoots outside well and drives well (which Wallace already does better) and now they get a near equal shooter in Bell and one of the better defending SG's in the league. Plus Diaw gives them a little size, something they definately need and he is a relatively versatile player. These players work better for Larry Brown and what he's trying to do. Losing Dudley sucks, but do you honestly ever see him playing more than 25+ minutes a game anywhere other than CHA? He doesn't maximize his minutes.

I see the team doing slightly better, maybe even end up battling for the 9th seed in the East... instead of ending another disappointing season only slightly better than, well, as of now only the Wizards.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 7:24:26 PM

"AND WHY GIVE UP DUDLEY. Dudley is not as good as Diaw or Bell"

EXACTLY, that is why you trade him, who cares about him being a great guy, its about winning games. And how do you figure Richardson is the best player, He is the leading scorer, but he is not the best player, His defence is terrible. He doesn't rebound, terrible ball handling skills and can't shot free throws. He is basically Matt Carrol with dunking ability. I liked the guy, but this trade makes the team better.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:25:41 PM

I like the trade. JRich was ok, but he was no allstar. Let's be real, he was the 3rd option in Golden State, and the 1rst option here. He was not worth the money, especially since he and Wallace are basically the same player. We get good defense and a forward that can actually shoot. Let's see what happens.

Posted by: rahji | Dec 10, 2008 7:25:52 PM

And if anyone thinks Bob Johnson is a good owner and good for our city, you're a complete fool. Johnson has alienated the business sector, and only decides to show up at games occasionally. And they only thing Jordan is good for is his legacy and name, which he won't allow the Bobcats to use to help promote the team. As an original season ticket holder, it's my right to be upset and complain about the lack of improvement the organization is making. If you guys are content with a 30 win team, then so be it........but not me!

Posted by: ktown8 | Dec 10, 2008 7:26:46 PM

"I've had season ticket in section 116 row X every year! Plus, my company has 4 season tickets too"

And your point is??

And who is this superstar you talking about. Is it All-Start Jason Richardson, no it can't be because he isn't an allstar or even a superstar.

And I will "Go back to beating your d*ck" on your wifes face!

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:28:32 PM

I have mixed emotions about thsi trade. I like the two players that were traded, but this team wasn't winning with them. I would have liked to see the roster gel a little before this trade was made. I guess it was now or never. Does this mean that Matt Carroll is the starting SG? Shannon Brown? Felton is never going to get his day in the sun. He keeps getting moved to shooting guard. He can play there, but I know in his heart he wants to be a PG.

The Bobcats are going to get smashed tonight because 3 major pieces will not be playing. Oh well, splitting the season series isn't bad.

Posted by: Token | Dec 10, 2008 7:30:02 PM

"And if anyone thinks Bob Johnson is a good owner and good for our city, you're a complete fool. Johnson has alienated the business sector, and only decides to show up at games occasionally. And they only thing Jordan is good for is his legacy and name, which he won't allow the Bobcats to use to help promote the team"

Same 'ol talking points. I guess you want them to sell the team to Larry Bird or move.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:30:22 PM

J-Rich is good, but not someone to build a team around. Now the role players are in place for a year or two of good coaching before we can get an impact player. There's still the draft too.

Posted by: WQ | Dec 10, 2008 7:31:08 PM

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Posted by: snoozer | Dec 10, 2008 7:31:33 PM

I am not sure which team this trade is better for.... I'm certainly disappointed to lose J-Rich.

Posted by: Yeah? | Dec 10, 2008 7:31:54 PM

You obviously know nothing about Richardson.

He is not a great defender, but considering everything else he provides, he is good enough. He's certainly not a liability. He's basically average.

And Richardson is a helluva rebounder. He is usually among the tops at the SG position.

And he's shooting 75% FT this year, which isn't great for a guard-type, but it's not awful, either.

Last season, Richardson put up 22/5/3. That is indicative of a helluva lot more than "just a scorer."

Posted by: Will | Dec 10, 2008 7:32:57 PM

truth_cuts,

I'm saying I have a vested interest in the team. I see a team that is average and not making any stride to become great! I will bet my year's salary that your broke-a$$ doesn't have season tickets and only goes when you can score a $10 ticket! It's easy to sit on here and cut people down. That's why you'll never amount to sh*t, Leroy.

.....and I've passed on more dimes than you've ever even beat off to!

Posted by: ktown8 | Dec 10, 2008 7:33:55 PM

Bring back the Hornets!

Posted by: Bryan | Dec 10, 2008 7:34:23 PM

To trade a young and talented SG with tons of upside and great prep. for game time plus J. Dudley for Diaw, Bell, and Singletary was giving up too much, not to mention a 2nd rounder. This trade should have included Barbosa vs Bell. We were walked on. The Suns obviously are a contender before the trade even with their recent play. They must have seen us salivating for help at PF. Wow! The Suns front office must be laughing at ours. Barbosa could be a starter anywhere else in the league. He has scoring ability and explosiveness. I will agree Diaw has shown potential. I am stunned.... Unbelievable!

-Frustrated Fan

Posted by: Too much for a PF | Dec 10, 2008 7:35:10 PM

Dude you guys are crazy... Everyone knew the Cats were gonna trade either Gerald or JRich. I'm actually glad the front office made the right move. Just cause the Bobcats lose a "flashy" guy who shoots well doesn't make them a 30 win team...

THEY WERE A 30 WIN TEAM BEFORE THE TRADE.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 7:36:14 PM

It will take the new guys to get over the shock of being a Bobcat. After the shock wears off then we need Diaw to be aggressive. He is too passive.

Posted by: Dubbs | Dec 10, 2008 7:39:31 PM

"I see a team that is average and not making any stride to become great!"
So how is not trading 1 average player for 2 average players not making the team better

"I will bet my year's salary that your broke-a$$ doesn't have season tickets"
You are right, and since I don't live close to Charlotte, that wouldn't be a good idea.

"It's easy to sit on here and cut people down"
especially when you are anonymous.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:40:32 PM

laughing out loud at Dubbs comment!!! co-sign!!!!

Posted by: CK | Dec 10, 2008 7:41:20 PM

Nick would you trade in a BMW for a couple of Honda's?

Posted by: ? | Dec 10, 2008 7:44:26 PM

we should like this trade. we don't have to have a superstar to be successful. remember the late 90s charlotte hornets. who was their leading scorer...eddie jones

look at our lineup...compared to the pre death of bobby phills
felton - baron
bell - wesley
wallace - mashburn
diaw - pj
okafor - elden campbell

6th man
derrick coleman - dj
bench

hawkins, thorpe, eddie robinson, nailon, magloire - may, caroll, morrison, jones, mohammad

similar teams but bd averaged 13 a year that game so don't say he was head and shoulders above ray then. he definitley is now. dj is averaging that off the bench.


this team can be successful and it might just be on their way.

Posted by: dougie | Dec 10, 2008 7:45:08 PM

truth_cuts:
nice comeback. truly one of the most creative ones ive ever heard. i laud you.

anyway, to the trade:
i feel somewhat betrayed. J-Rich and G-Force (geralds long forgotten nickname) created a great two man force that was hard to mess up. as for the trade, i dont know if Diaw and Bell were the right players. true, the're good, but we need a big that is like Tyson Chandler or something. im happy with the trade, just feel betrayed by the fact that WE GAVE UP JASON. its bad enough i cant see the games on TWC ever since that garbage deal went through, but now i will be without my leading scorer with Gerald on NBA Live 09. :(

i dont know. it seems like after five LOYAL years of being a bobcats fan, this trade has made me lost my fire for them. i will miss J-Rich in Charlotte, but the only way i can stop missing him is if the 'Cats either go to the playoffs NOW (probably not) or lose to the 8th seed in the east by like 1 point. overall:
good trade, bad taste in my mouth.

Posted by: reggie | Dec 10, 2008 7:45:28 PM

Leroy, go away! You're complete trash! We're you abused or neglected as a child and looking for attention on here? People are giving their opinion about the trade, and instead of arguing your point, you want to resort to name-calling. Grow up and stop being a thug!

Posted by: ktown8 | Dec 10, 2008 7:46:30 PM

This just shows exactly how oblivious Bonnell and his so called "sources" are. Earlier today Joke Bonnell was telling us how he had just come from practice and it was only a matter of time before J Howard was brought in.
Next thing you know...blockbuster trade that Bonnell is clueless about! Why do they pay you?
From now on when I hear Bonnell talk about "sources" I'll know its just the neighborhood kid or his invisible friend or something.

Posted by: mydogknowsmorethanbonnell | Dec 10, 2008 7:48:42 PM

Dion, only if you go away,

And stop being a thug? not sure where they came from.

And do you even have an opinion about the trade, all you posted was Bob Johnson is cheap.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:49:28 PM

i meant jamal mashburn instead of eddie jones***

Posted by: dougie | Dec 10, 2008 7:49:32 PM

Finally, some players that can pass and play defense. If Raja takes as many shots as J-Rich he'll score 20 per too! Diaw will actually get Emeka the ball when he is open. Watch Emeka's Blocks & Points go up based on Bell's ability to defend and Diaw's passing ability. BTW, Diaw played Center in the playoffs so I think he can handle power forward in the East. With Diaw at power forward it puts Gerald Wallace back at the small forward spot where he has the advantage most nights.

Posted by: Bruce Griffith | Dec 10, 2008 7:50:55 PM

Who freaking cares about this joke team?

GOOOOOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!

Posted by: Bob Johnson | Dec 10, 2008 7:51:04 PM

reggie would you rather them give up wallace or richardson, i say richardson. They are the only 2 guys on this team with any trade value.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:52:38 PM

Looks like the only way we're gonna get Felton off this team is if I eat him. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Posted by: Sean May | Dec 10, 2008 7:53:01 PM

Not to mention this years draft sucks, making the 2nd round pick null (if we gave that up). I don't know what you expect. JRich is no allstar, period. 2 for 1 is a good deal. Also, who gives a damn if Bob Johnson is not at the game? Get over it. Hopefully, we can put a team on the court that can compete. JRich wasn't that dude. We played just as well when he was out. I just wish they would have sent Morrison instead of Dudley, but I can see where there going. Free up some $$$ for a real ALLSTAR.

Posted by: rahji | Dec 10, 2008 7:53:08 PM

I think the biggest thing that only a few people are latching onto is, that while this is certainly not a block-busting, team-changing trade, it was absolutely necessary based on the current roster.

Before mindlessly bashing the front office, try to consider:

1) The Cats had two of the *exact* same player that could not effectively play on the same floor at the same time.

2) J-Rich's defense (the Cats' only true solid this year, next to DJ's play) was inferior to Wallace's. Why not turn this team into a defense-first mindset? They clearly can't maintain a 100+ ppg pace, so why not look to shut other teams down?

3) Dudley is a nice player, but on a very good team, he doesn't touch the floor.

4) A 2nd Round pick is, 90% of the time, a complete waste in the NBA. Name 10 players in the entire league that are starters who were 2nd Round picks. I'm not saying you can't find gold there - I'm saying that it is much, much more difficult to pick a stud there than you probably think.

And, not for nothing, but...

5) DId you see J-Rich essentially lose the game against the Heat w/his D and two missed FTs?

6) Didn't he JUST miss almost two weeks with an injury? Do we know he's completely healthy and can fully rebound?

Posted by: EMoney | Dec 10, 2008 7:53:26 PM

dougie: a team "pre death of bobby phills" would include Bobby Phills on the team. May he rest in peace.

Posted by: Yeah? | Dec 10, 2008 7:53:52 PM

This is a very smart move! Boris and Raja both play strong defense and can shoot the ball. This is an upgrade for the cats

Posted by: DanCat | Dec 10, 2008 7:54:04 PM

It is pretty funny how the self-proclaimed bobcats expert, Bonnell, completely missed this but rambles on and on over THREE posts about Juwan Howard coming here.
Second rate coverage there Bonnell. Step it up.

Posted by: Ted | Dec 10, 2008 7:55:32 PM

EMoney, exactly. Jich is a good guy, but you can't build a team around him. I wish we would get rid of Carrol and his 5 million a year.

Posted by: truth_cuts | Dec 10, 2008 7:55:55 PM

To the "?" guy... Uh, yeah.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 7:57:49 PM

nice commentary...

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-37-37/A-Spark-for-the-Suns.html

Posted by: CK | Dec 10, 2008 7:59:02 PM

regarding Emoney's #1, well know we have one guy that NO ONE can play with. When Wallace gets the ball everyone just stands around and watches him kill the shot clock, before maybe crashing to the court and getting fouled, so he can hit one out of 2 FT's.

and you want to talk about someone losing games this year, talk about Felton. maybe you missed the Celtics game. if that is a criteria for staying on the team that BUST should have been gone long ago.

FACT: Richardson made everyone around him better and the offense flowed better with him on the court. If you don't believe that go look at the team's record over the past 2 seasons with him in the lineup vs. when Wallace was out. Wallace sucks and he should have been the one to go.

Posted by: Tmoney | Dec 10, 2008 8:00:23 PM

Emoney and truthcats is on point. This is a good trade. Anyone who believes JRich is an Allstar is smoking some good stuff. He was the 3rd option at GS (remember B.Davis, S.Jackson?). I think we can build the nucleus and then get a real Allstar. He just took a lot of shots here, but was a liability on defense. Plus, GForce has the same athletic ability, but also plays defense. Overall good trade, but we still need a true Allstar.

Posted by: rahji | Dec 10, 2008 8:02:19 PM

Could we not have thrown in Sean May?

Posted by: Mikey Watson | Dec 10, 2008 8:02:35 PM

Hey Bruce, the conversation was about basketball and since you asked, I care! Go Panthers and Bobcats.

Posted by: Kenneth Irving | Dec 10, 2008 8:03:19 PM

I made the previous post because dougie didn't actually inclue phills on the roster

Posted by: Yeah? | Dec 10, 2008 8:03:50 PM

Nobody wants May. I wonder how long it will take before he is cut and out of the league. Morrison probably has some value, but not May.

Posted by: rahji | Dec 10, 2008 8:04:19 PM

T -

Fair point about Wallace. I can't argue you. I'm simply saying I think the lesser of two evils is getting rid of J-Rich. I hear you, but personally, I feel like he's more of a liability to the team than Wallace is.

I didn't mean to go down who's-worse-road with Felton, I was just trying to reinforce there are a number of plusses to the trade that I wanted people to at least consider.

One thing I can't agree with you is, the J-Rich making people better around him deal. He plays sub-par D, makes ok at best passes, and very, very rarely would carry the team on his shoulders. I am in no way saying he isn't a great player, but $12 million per year for one player, when you already have a Wallace, on a team like the Bobcats makes little sense to me.

The team is flawed. A deal needed to be made, one way or another.


Posted by: EMoney | Dec 10, 2008 8:06:34 PM

so we got singletary, does that mean feltons days are numbered?

Posted by: chknwing | Dec 10, 2008 8:11:10 PM

Didn't MJ trade for Richardson? I thought he said Richardson would take us to the playoffs............Maybe next year.........RIGHT...........

Posted by: kay | Dec 10, 2008 8:13:39 PM

I hope Felton is the next to go... He isn't gonna stay past this year and if he does it means that the Bobcats are gonna overpay for a guy keeping DJ's minutes down... Felton needs to go! Trade him and Carroll to Houston for Reefer Alston.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 8:14:20 PM

I know it's hard to understand guys, but the team really needed to answer their 4 year old problem. Now we have a low post player that we can trust and a rotation with some depth. There are other moves that need to be made, but as it stands now, we can be very versatile in our lineups and match up to more teams. We have low post defense as well as someone who can guard the wing and point as needed. It may not seem that way, but it's a step in the right direction. It also helps our bench because Carrol, Morrison, and May can provide the scoring we need if the time calls for it, otherwise the points will distribute the ball to the right person in the right places. We will miss J-Rich, but it will be more than made up for when minutes increase for some of the scorers on the bench.

Shoot who am I kidding, this trade was a bunch of crap, I'm even wondering if attendance will even reach half of our average after this. Mr Johnson I think our plan is working!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha!

Posted by: Coach Brown | Dec 10, 2008 8:15:23 PM

Yeah I'm not hating the trade, I just wish it was Wallace and not Richardson, regardless of salary.

I mean I've got the game on right now...why the hell isn't Wallace playing? He had a death in the family about a week ago right?
And who was it? I'm reading that Cassel will start for the Patriots on sunday and his father just died. To each his own but I don't understand Wallace's absence.

Posted by: Tmoney | Dec 10, 2008 8:16:15 PM

Emeka Okafor is getting dominated by Tyson Chandler. Ever notice how any somewhat decent big man in the league works Okafor over like a little b*tch? He's like a short Sam Bowie.

Posted by: Chokeaforrules | Dec 10, 2008 8:20:12 PM

Wallace will definatley benefit from being able to play his actual position a lot more often.

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 8:22:02 PM

I bet J Rich is one happy cat right now to be out of basketball purgatory.

Posted by: James Reed | Dec 10, 2008 8:23:15 PM

Hey im a huge Suns fan in the phoenix area and I project 3 dames until you guys will start complaining about Diaws inconsistencies and ding dongs lovely box score numbers of 33 mins 1-7 shotting while the guy he is guardin puts up 30-40 points as wade and harrs have done in the last 10 days. Ding Dong is the most overrated defender in the league and I would like to thank you guys for saving our season with J Rich who is a straight up baller!

Posted by: jeff | Dec 10, 2008 8:23:48 PM

This was a great trade for the bobcats. I am not saying this is going to make them a playoff team, but it will def make them better somewhat. This team finally has a true five man starting rotation. We needed Boris Diaw, because we had no one that could play the four at all. Plus, Raja Bell at two might prove to be better than J-Rich for this team. He is a team oriented player with better defense. I will miss J-rich, but this is a good trade. Thank GOD we don't have to rely on Sean May anymore.

Posted by: Roy SMith | Dec 10, 2008 8:27:05 PM

Ryan Hollins has 4, in the 1stQ. He's banging with Tyson. PAUSE!!!! Show em whatcha got!!!

Posted by: j.p. | Dec 10, 2008 8:29:43 PM

jeff, is it difficult to learn how to spell "in the phoenix area"? Who is harrs? And what is it you are projecting, dames? Thanks for the great input buddy!

Posted by: jeff's boy | Dec 10, 2008 8:31:42 PM

"I've watched Jason for a long time," said Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins, who also was with Richardson in Golden State. "Just watching him grow, he grew from where he started to where he is today with his ability to score the basketball."


No duh. What an awesome quote

Posted by: Yeah? | Dec 10, 2008 8:41:09 PM

"We could have gotten more for J-Rich" What are you CRAZY!! look what we got him for, almost nothing. J-Rich is a good player, but not as good as his contract. I know you may have liked the guy, but to be honest, I would rather WIN! Diaw is way better than Dudley, and Bell is a good shooter and defender. We have Felton and Bell that can play the 2 now with Augustin at point. This will be better for this year, and who knows maybe we can land a big one in 2010, there are a lot more free agents than just LeBron that year.

Posted by: cheeez | Dec 10, 2008 8:41:16 PM

I called this trade last year but not Singletary of course thought that Jordan would go after Diaw, Bell, and Barbosa. 2 out of 3 is good....but not JRich...Brown just dont know Augustine Diaw Bell JRich and Okafor, May or Howard.. Very nice line up. Wallace has indeed been good to the commnnity because I thought for sure last year with this possible trade Wallace had to go. So they got JRich for bait. Nice. Barbosa should have been in the deal and for Carroll. But we all should expect this after a stomping the Carolina Panthers put on Tampa Monday night. The motivator to get things done. Cheer, Wins, and Buzz on the other professional team in the city. Has to keep up.....Felton for Ben Gordon... and a draft pick. I love felton. Jordan going for some of the Bulls players watch. Well they are down now against the Hornets. So lest see! Season Ticket Holder...
Swift, Malbury, Frye are still out there to get. Getting a Malbury that hasnt been playing. He just wants to play. I think Brown and Malbury can work it out this time.

Posted by: BobCat Fan D | Dec 10, 2008 8:49:00 PM

I don't think MaRbury would make this team any better. And there is a 0% chance of getting him, any NBA follower knows that. As for Frye, what do the Bobcats have that the Blazers would give up a good 1 year contract for?

Posted by: Nick | Dec 10, 2008 9:00:32 PM

Wasn't the trade for Jason that was pulled off by our great GM suppose to take us to the playoffs?

Posted by: KAY | Dec 10, 2008 9:37:03 PM

Whats all this talk about how Jrich was this awesome scorer? He just jacked up threes & played horrible defense. He ball hogged & tried to be the man but he clearly has lost a step since his Warrior days. Im glad Wallace is staying put, he brings energy & defense to the team, I said earlier we should trade him for Mccants & Collins, I was seriously wrong. Diaw is an improvement to Dudley, Bell is of equal value as Jrich plus he plays better D, you get a back up point guard & a pick in 2010, very well done MJ.

Posted by: marvel | Dec 10, 2008 9:44:27 PM

Bad trade. Bell is past his prime & Dias has to average a good double double to earn his contract. Singletary will be cut

Posted by: Les | Dec 10, 2008 9:48:17 PM

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