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June 15, 2009
Ailing Teague needs a break
Wake Forest's Jeff Teague was scheduled to work out for the Bobcats Tuesday. He won't be there, and I suspect that's about his sore knee, not the Bobcats.
Teague suffered a knee sprain recently. Despite that, he worked out for New Jersey, Philadelphia and Indiana on consecutive days. I suspect his decision to pull out of the Bobcats workout Tuesday was an acknowledgement he'd do little for his draft status by further stressing that joint.
Posted by Observer Sports on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 PM | Permalink
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Rick-
Are the Cats deadset on Henderson? Any chance of getting James Johnson?
Posted by: MJC | Jun 16, 2009 1:28:48 AM
anything to report on yesterdays workouts bonnell?
Posted by: the voice | Jun 16, 2009 7:05:32 AM
I say no way on James Johnson. Hearing a lot of people say he hasn't been impressive in workouts and hasn't been in great shape. If you can't get in great shape at least for the couple of months before you get drafted, I don't know what to tell you. Plus he's a tweener.
Among the players likely to be on the board, I want either Terrence Williams or Earl Clark. I will grudgingly accept Gerald Williams despite dook's breathtaking, mind-boggling, nearly-impossible record of failure in the NBA. And that's really it. Blair would be in that mix as well if his knees weren't such a mess.
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 9:42:44 AM
Duh - Gerald Henderson, not Gerald Willaims
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 9:43:00 AM
Duh - Gerald Henderson, not Williams
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 9:45:37 AM
James Johnson is a freakish athlete. He will do well in the NBA. Plus, the guy does martial arts all the time, I'm not sure where this "out of shape" stuff comes from. Man, I wish Teague and Johnson had stayed at Wake one more year.
Posted by: Rich | Jun 16, 2009 10:42:41 AM
From Chad Ford on ESPN.com, for one. This is what he wrote about Johnson yesterday: "Scouts thought he was out of shape at the pre-draft camp, and he hasn't blown away anyone in workouts. His range is 11 to 21, but right now the momentum doesn't seem to be going his direction."
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 10:46:58 AM
Currently Duke has better NBA players than NC. Obviously not all-time, but currently they do. Deng, Duhon, Boozer, Battier and Brand are a better starting 5 than any other school can throw out there. Your days of leaning on carter and jamison are over as their skills have drastically diminished. The best pro NC has produced in the last 9 years is Marvin Williams. ha.
Posted by: john | Jun 16, 2009 10:54:23 AM
Currently Duke has better NBA players than NC. Obviously not all-time, but currently they do. Deng, Duhon, Boozer, Battier and Brand are a better starting 5 than any other school can throw out there. Your days of leaning on carter and jamison are over as their skills have drastically diminished. The best pro NC has produced in the last 9 years is Marvin Williams. ha.
Posted by: john | Jun 16, 2009 10:54:26 AM
Earl Clark or Terrance Williams will be better pros than Henderson....Henderson can play good defense....but you need scoring from a shooting guard....Earl Clark will be better than LAMAR ODOM....
Posted by: Scott | Jun 16, 2009 11:00:43 AM
Henderson has one of the best-developed slashing and driving games of any of the SGs in this college draft. Jumpers can be developed. Ask Raja Bell.
And john, your point is basically right, but there's nothing that says Em is a Carolina fan. Duke has produced more NBA talent lately than ANY school, so why pick on UNC?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 16, 2009 11:27:59 AM
Please. UConn has produced the best active NBA talent, and it's not even close. Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Rudy Gay, Caron Butler, Ben Gordon, Emeka Okafor, Charlie Villanueva, etc. Hell, even Hilton Armstrong is sticking in the league.
I'll take the Wake Forest quartet of two 2009 All-Stars (CP3 and Duncan) plus Josh Howard and Darius Songaila over dook's collection of cripples (Brand, Dunleavy, Boozer and Hill), overpaid ballhogs (Maggette), disappointments (Deng), products of D'Antoni's system (Duhon), overrated media darlings (Battier) and busts (D.N.P. Redick, She-Will, McBob, et al).
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 11:52:07 AM
spelling duke, "dook", is a dead giveaway Michael Procton. Plus the unintelligent comment about being complete and miserable failures exhibits only the true lack of bball IQ that is usually associated with NC fans.
Posted by: john | Jun 16, 2009 12:56:12 PM
I enjoy the fact that you take issue with my spelling of dook rather than my assessment of its alumni as a collection of cripples, overpaid ballhogs, disappointments, products of a system, overrated media darlings and busts.
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 1:15:47 PM
You are wrong, but it's not worth going into. If you're going to give Hilton Armstrong credit for "sticking in the league," you certainly shouldn't be calling McRoberts, Williams, or even Shavlik Randolph busts, much less a playoff starter for a conference finalist who was often matched up with the other team's best perimeter scorer (Redick.)
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 16, 2009 1:33:20 PM
The Magic started Redick only out of desperation while Lee (a rookie!) was injured. After Lee returned, Redick went right back to the bench. He started zero games in the conference finals or NBA finals. Zero. And he averaged a whopping 6 points per game on 37 percent shooting in the playoffs (right in line with his woeful career averages of 5.5 points on 38 percent shooting), so let's not pretend that he set the world on fire, mmm-kay? He's still one of the biggest busts in NBA draft history.
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 1:48:18 PM
And incidentally, if She-Will isn't a bust ... a No. 5 overall pick who averaged 4.1 points, 3.4 rebounds and 0.4 blocks per game this season, what exactly does one have to do to be a "bust?" Does simply having a pulse qualify one as "not a bust?" Not maiming yourself? How low would you like to set the bar?
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 16, 2009 1:59:17 PM
As opposed to Hilton Armstrong's 3.8-2.0-0.2 line?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 16, 2009 8:54:22 PM
Oh, and I'll name a bust bigger than either Williams or Redick: Joe Wolf. 4-3 lifetime. Hell of a lotto pick that was. And nobody calls Redick a bust because the expectations weren't that high for him. He was supposed to be, at best, a shooter off the bench, and that's precisely what he's done.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 16, 2009 10:52:16 PM
Oh that is bullshit, Procton. I heard many, many, MANY dookies shrieking about how Redick was going to be a better version of Steve Kerr or even Jeff Hornacek, evidently based on nothing more than the fact that each of them is Caucasian. These sad little dookies certainly did not envision that collar-popping, drunk-driving punk coming off the bench, much less averaging 5.5 points on 38 percent shooting.
Posted by: Elevatorman | Jun 17, 2009 10:46:54 AM
Umm...I don't know about you, but I go off of scouts' opinions when it comes to player projections, not homer fanbases. Plenty of Tar Baby fans thought Marvin Williams would be an instant 20-10 guy, but I don't hold that against him.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 17, 2009 3:08:07 PM
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