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June 02, 2009

Portland has eyes for Curry

Don't be surprised if the Portland Trail Blazers trade into the lottery, looking to acquire Davidson's Stephen Curry.

The way I hear it, the Blazers (currently picking 24th) are nosing around to trade up and have Curry in their sights. Enough teams are willing to deal down that this is a real possibility. And it would be great for Curry in this regard:

A long-time NBA scout told me months ago that the ideal situation for Curry is to play point guard on a team with a shooting guard who can also handle the ball. That would allow Curry to spot up some, and maximize the impact of his shooting.

The Blazers have just such a player in Brandon Roy. Strikes me as a great match of a player and a system.

Posted by Observer Sports on June 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM | Permalink


The Blazers already have Bayless and Blake. The Blazers front office must not believe Bayless is good enough to be the back up PG.

Posted by: Token | Jun 2, 2009 11:44:52 AM

Funny you mention Bayless, Token. I was just thinking that if Curry was available at 12 (maybe not realistic) that trading the 12 pick for one of Portland's young guards and their first round pick wouldn't be such a bad deal.

On second thought Fernandez may be a more ideal choice over Bayless here.

Posted by: Bobby | Jun 2, 2009 12:14:56 PM

Yeah, Rick, it's clear that Roy would be about the perfect backcourt companion for Curry.

Somebody mentioned Bayless. I think the kid has potential, but he needs the ball in his hands just like Roy does. He just needs a chance with the right team.

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Jun 2, 2009 1:06:40 PM

Cats pick probably isn't high enough to guarantee that he'll still be on the board, but someone would do this, right?

What's the price, do you think? Swap picks this year and take back a future lottery-protected #1?

Posted by: Brooks | Jun 2, 2009 1:10:53 PM

What are the odds that the Bobcats end up with Henderson?

Posted by: LeeL | Jun 2, 2009 1:35:18 PM

What are the odds the Bobcats end up with Henderson?

Posted by: TurdFerguson | Jun 2, 2009 1:36:55 PM

Bayless is a far better player than rudy... Bayless would be a nice fit off the bench.. when he played the Bobcats this year he came in a scored a lot quick.. not affraid to bomb them up in a second unit that's perfect.. I see him similiar to a JR Smith..bottom line we need to make moves...

Posted by: Rocco | Jun 2, 2009 2:37:01 PM

If the Bobcats draft Gerald Henderson...I will be a HAPPY HAPPY man

Posted by: Greg S | Jun 2, 2009 2:52:27 PM

I'm leaning towards TWill at this point. But trading down would be great.

Posted by: Bro D. | Jun 2, 2009 3:14:29 PM

Both Curry to the Blazers and Henderson in Charlotte would be great fits...Blazers could probably work something right above the Knicks for Curry...

Posted by: Rick | Jun 2, 2009 3:15:33 PM

Curry is going to get bitch slaped every time he tries to go to the hoop,He is going to find the going very rough,So that leaves him no choice but to shoot from the arc,and one sided players dont last very long in the NBA.

Posted by: CHUCK PLISKIN | Jun 2, 2009 3:34:57 PM

Chuck how long did Stephen Curry's Dad last in the NBA I see to forget. Seems like he was about the same size with the same Jump shot?

Posted by: Rick | Jun 2, 2009 3:47:30 PM

Rudy shot the ball much better than Bayless last season and he's got size to play the 2 or the 3. That's why I like him better.

Posted by: Bobby | Jun 2, 2009 4:38:50 PM

I'm not sure why Curry is rated so high. Sure, he averaged almost 29 PPG this season, but againt who? Guilford, Winthrop, Florida Atlantic, Charleston, Samford, The Citadel, Elon, Furman, Wofford and UNC-Greensboro. Sure, Davidson played Butler, Purdue, Duke and Oklahoma, but they lost all of those games. They even lost to College Of Charleston and The Citadel. How is Curry going to do at the next level when the competition for him in college was virtually nonexistent? I know, they made the Elite Eight a year ago, but...

Posted by: vann | Jun 2, 2009 5:04:26 PM

Re. Stephen Curry to Portland: I ain't stayin up past mid-night to see these west coast teams - period.

Posted by: Bill Brannon | Jun 2, 2009 5:14:15 PM

Nazr and Curry for them picking someone for us. (We cant trade our pick before it is picked due to the deal we made last year with Denver, cant trade an already traded pick).

OR Nazr and curry for fernandez.

Posted by: tattoo | Jun 2, 2009 5:47:53 PM

vann, you should check out Curry's scoring against that elite competition you are so quick to dismiss. @ Oklahoma (44), neutral site-NC State (44), neutral site-WVU (27), @ Duke (29), Butler (20), @ USC (32), @ St. Mary's (26), neutral-UNC (24), neutral site-Duke (20), @ NC State (29), @ UCLA (15), @ Mich (32), @ Mizzou (16), and neutral site-Maryland (30). 28 ppg against that kind of competition seems borderline existent, if not worth of a lottery pick. Oh and Davidson did slip into that NCAA run last year you mentioned... I think it went 40, 30, 33, 25 (Gonzaga, Georgetown, Wisconsin, Kansas). Ring a bell?

Posted by: mcat | Jun 2, 2009 5:52:05 PM

I have to represent my people here. Bayless may be available, Rudy most definitely is NOT. Portland loves Rudy and he isn't going anywhere. If he left there would be some boycotts. He has been a PR dream for Kevin Pritchard.

Posted by: RipCityRevival | Jun 2, 2009 5:58:41 PM

Hello vann, please get a clue. On the one hand, you write off Curry's scoring average of 29 ppg as being padded by games against weaker opponents. Yet hilariously, against the "quality" opponents you identified (Butler, Purdue, Duke, and Oklahoma) Curry averaged 27 points. The 27ppg average was despite recovering from an injury in the Butler game. But man, you're so right, Curry's performance really declines against those tough teams like Oklahoma!! Seriously, please get a clue.

Forty-four points against an Elite Eight team (featuring a POY) on their home court. Now, of course you can reply and say "But he only scores tons of points against the good teams because his teammates are all horrible." And then go watch the tapes, and you will see that those "good teams" often double and triple team Curry every single time he comes within 8 feet of the ball.

Posted by: The anti-vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:05:27 PM

Well guys, as an Oregonian and someone who follows the Blazers very close (as well as the rest of the NBA), I can tell you there is no way that Rudy Fernandez would be dealt for any rookie this year. I don't see Kevin Pritchard dealing him for anything less than an allstar PG. Bayless on the other hand, still holds a lot of potential, but his developement may not coincide with Pritchard's timeline for Portland's playoff aspirations. Don't read too much into these types of rumors, Mr. Pritchard is very good at using the media for smokescreens prior to the draft.

Posted by: sod | Jun 2, 2009 6:07:23 PM

And thanks also to mcat for posting the other Curry scoring numbers against "major" opponents.

Vann will probably resfurace any moment to point out that the Jimmy Patsos quadruple-team totally shut down that wannabe Curry!

Posted by: The anti-vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:09:10 PM

im also on the twill bandwagon, also i wouldnt mind demar derozan

Posted by: truthbtold4 | Jun 2, 2009 6:11:47 PM

If you score 40 and lose, that makes you a ...loser.

You people take the bait every time.

Posted by: vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:19:32 PM

Dear Anti-Vann,

Thanks for anticipating my reactions, making my posts for me and pointing out what I will probably do. All I have to do is sit here! Thanks, honey.

Posted by: vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:25:12 PM

Dear vann,

Which UNC subschool did you go to? Charlotte or Asheville? They have great basketball programs you know.

Posted by: The anti-vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:49:34 PM

Stephen Curry is the real deal - and he will prove it in the NBA.

Gerald Henderson, on the other hand, is far from the real deal. He may have some size and athleticism for the pro game, but at best I see him as a backup 2 or 3. He will bring energy, but little else. Unlike Curry, Henderson had a big boost from his teammates this past season. Guys like Scheyer, and Singler were perfect complements to Henderson's game, plus Coach K did a great job in turning him from a 2nd round pick to a likely 1st round selection. Regardless - the Bobcats should not take Henderson unless they are picking outside the top 20.

Posted by: New to NC | Jun 2, 2009 6:53:55 PM

It doesn't make you a loser. It means the team lost. Say it with me. The team. Only a moron puts all the blame on one person. Especially in college ball.
I as a Blazer fan don't think we should do anything as far as trading up to get someone in this years draft. Keep the team the same and let them develop more during the season. They will be a stronger team all the way around come next year.

Posted by: Aymondray | Jun 2, 2009 7:33:54 PM

Rick(not Bonnell--the other one),

Stephen is not near the size and strength his dad was. They both have effective shots but Dell had a completely different, faster release.

That said, Stephen has more shake-and-bake to his game than father Dell did. Even though they are father-son, it's apples-to-oranges.

Posted by: DeLaQuest | Jun 2, 2009 9:20:06 PM

No chance of fernandez in the deal. Portland wouldnt do a straight up sway of fernandez for curry and would never take on Nazi's contract in that deal. I think Curry is going to be a good player, but why give up on someone that has spent a year in the league proving that he is a taller version of Curry.

Posted by: Nick | Jun 2, 2009 9:22:43 PM

the guy can score.

Posted by: darius | Jun 2, 2009 9:29:19 PM

If Steph had decided to transfer like his brother, how many ACC schools do you think would have offered him a spot on their team? At least half, probably more. He easily could have played in a tougher league, but he enjoyed playing for Davidson and the challenges associated with being a team leader. In my mind he had nothing to prove after the NCAA run last year, but he came back anyway and averaged almost 30 ppg, which is ridiculous any way you slice it.

If there is one guy in this draft that I think will have it easier in the NBA than in college, it would be Curry, because NBA teams won't be double or triple teaming him like college teams... heck, he might even get a few OPEN shots in the NBA, and he's undoubtedly the best shooter available in this draft. I would love to see him go play in MSG, but Portland would be another great situation for him... if KP would get over his love affair for his young guys and trade some of them for a proven veteran the blazers could be serious contenders soon.

Posted by: David | Jun 2, 2009 10:41:05 PM

the truth is, nobody knows how curry will fare in the nba. there are examples both ways of how scorers from smaller schools work out in the nba. i think he'll have a decent career as a sixth man. as long as a team doesn't make him one of their top 3 paid players, he will be a great role player.

Posted by: j | Jun 2, 2009 11:33:32 PM

The Blazers are going after Andre Miller or Jason Kidd, a top veteran to play again of Blake.

Bayless is not a point guard, he wants to shoot. Never saw a shot he did not like.


Posted by: buda | Jun 3, 2009 12:56:32 AM

Curry would be a good fit in Portland. It will take some pressure off of Roy. Even though I would like to see him in a Knicks uniform.

Posted by: M Jones | Jun 3, 2009 7:53:59 AM

Hmm...last I checked, players' win-loss records aren't kept. The TEAM wins and loses, and Curry had no talent around him at all.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 3, 2009 10:28:24 AM

Let's talk Bobcats!

Curry and DeRozen will be gone once Charlotte is on the clock. It's no secret that we need scoring SG to back-up/ultimately replace Raja Bell. In the shooting guard discussion, I keep reading Gerald Henderson's name.


I don't think Gerald Henderson fits the profile of a successful SG in the NBA. He doesn't shoot well enough and doesn't excel at creating his own scoring situations. I say we trade down in the draft and get FSU SG Toney Douglas. He's a born scorer, great shot creator, and, in my opinion, has a better shot to develop into a NBA star than Henderson.

And we wouldn't have to worry about the stupid UNC fans booing Douglas because of what college he attended. Nobody cares about Florida State.

Posted by: DrBobcats | Jun 3, 2009 10:56:28 AM


Curry and the Cats were 5-1 when scoring 40+ points. That would appear as if the loss were the anomally rather than a win being such. And if you are a fan of rounding up, Davidson was 12-1 all-time when Curry scored 35+. Clearly a case of a ballhog player who doesn't know what's best for his team.

Jordan scored 63 in a loss to the Celtics, but I doubt you would call him a loser.

Posted by: mcat | Jun 3, 2009 12:11:35 PM

I hope the bobcats keep it simple this year and just draft Gerald Henderson. If they decide to draft Curry and trade him to Portland they'd probably do something crazy and trade Curry and Nazr for Bayless and Ike Diogu, Uhhhh! Please keep it simple Bobcats and get either: Gerald Henderson, Derozen, Tyreke Evans(probably won't be available), Harden(samething) or TWill.

Posted by: fakethis | Jun 3, 2009 12:42:44 PM

Keep it simple Bobcats and draft Gerald Henderson.

Posted by: fakethis | Jun 3, 2009 12:44:49 PM

If you score 40 and lose, that makes you a ...loser.

You people take the bait every time.

Posted by: vann | Jun 2, 2009 6:19:32 PM

HAHAHA!!!! Vann you make me laugh. Curry, the one scoring 40 in that loss, is the one being drafted. Not the other 4 on the floor w/o his capabilities. Didn't Lebron score around 40 in a loss to the Magic? Man, he should be sent straight to the D-league right? GET ON IT CLEVELAND. Adam Morrison may sit in a suit over in LA, but they're in the finals. Must deserve a couple of MVP votes right? Ha-you make me laugh. Thanks b/c work was boring.

Posted by: Eric | Jun 3, 2009 1:58:26 PM

I live here in Portland, and follow every rumor, and story on the Blazers, and I can assure you that KP will hold off on Pritch slapping anyone this year because he has his roster of young guys, THE youngest rotation in the NBA, why would he trade away established talent for a junior college scorer? Much like how Bob Whitsitt drafted Quintel Woods out of junior college, and he was a bust than on a roster that was as selfish as Curry's scoring. Portland isn't a shoot first team like Davidson was, so don't let the hype get you. Portland will be trading out of the first round, for some future Euro players, and a All Star point guard. The players to be traded or that are on the block for Portland, are Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw, Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez and possibly Jeryd Bayless. Any other Blazer is considered the core of the roster and virtually untouchable. The only real weakness on this roster is the 1 spot, but a great distributor and outside threat is what they need not a scorer and a young inexperienced one at that. Nate wants a veteran, after coaching a 54 win season, look for KP to grant his wish in the form of a PG that will ignite fear into opponents, and be a great leader on and off the court for Portland, so sorry but 99% of you are wrong including that hack for a writer of this article.

Posted by: RoyWonder | Jun 3, 2009 3:45:57 PM

Does anyone here REALLY remember how well Dell Cury used to shoot? I mean, he had the quick release and was a little taller than Stephen, but his shot really was more "pure"...Stephen is quicker (maybe not end-to-end faster), better handle, and good vision -- but to be honest, to me, he still needs to work on that shot to be as consistent as his pops was in the NBA...sounds crazy but it's true...

Posted by: Rick | Jun 3, 2009 4:24:51 PM

If you score 40 and lose, that makes you a ...loser.

Much like Lebron I suppose or Tony Parker or Devin Harris and countless other Allstars that scored over 40pts this season yet still lost. Fricken Losers the lot of them!

Posted by: Vann Go..Please | Jun 3, 2009 5:28:54 PM

Thanks for shooting Vann down with the facts. Curry has also performed well against NBA players in summer games.

Posted by: sam ogilvie | Jun 3, 2009 6:53:50 PM

This story makes zero sense. The Blazers just drafted Bayless who is just as good a shooter, has the same size, but is substantially more athletic and a better ball handler than Curry. That adds up to a better player.

Posted by: Kris Kells | Jun 4, 2009 7:38:07 AM

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