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July 06, 2009

Bobcats won't throw away Wallace

 The Portland Trail Blazers have millions in available salary-cap space and a longtime interest in Gerald Wallace. However, I'd be surprised if the Bobcats would be receptive to any trade proposal that would exchange Wallace for essentially cap relief and forward Nicolas Batum.

My friend Jason Quick, who covers the Blazers for the Oregonian, called Monday night, wondering if I thought that sort of trade would be considered. Quick and I both heard the Blazers had inquired about Wallace in the past. So after Hedo Turkoglu jilted them, I can see why the Blazers would be interested in Wallace.

But that's a non-starter for the Bobcats. Wallace is arguably their best player. While some cap relief would be helpful, Wallace is an asset you can't give away without getting real talent in return. What a terrible message that would send to the fans in a season when the Bobcats hope to be in playoff contention.

Considering what Washington and Toronto have done this off-season, the Bobcats might have a tougher time staying in contention next season than they did last season. The last thing they can afford is to cast off a core asset to trim some payroll.

Posted by Observer Sports on July 6, 2009 at 09:46 PM | Permalink

Comments

If the bobcats do this, and actually trade wallace they're making a long-term, and heart-breaking blow to the organization and fans, and to a player who is one of few who enjoy playing at charlotte..

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Jul 6, 2009 11:20:46 PM

No way this happens. Wallace is the glue and the identity for this franchise. If anyone goes this offseason, I expect it to be Okafor or Felton and not Wallace. Both of those guys have value and play positions at which there is already depth.

Posted by: ASChin | Jul 7, 2009 12:15:49 AM

Wallace is a borderline marquee player, he gives other teams fits on the defensive end, and he is the soul of the team...last person we trade at this juncture. Only way it works is if we get a marquee player in return.

Posted by: Ocracoma | Jul 7, 2009 12:28:53 AM

We have depth at Point Guard? I had no idea.

Posted by: MJC | Jul 7, 2009 12:35:12 AM

this is not going to happen but we do have 2 geralds now. how might they distinguish the two. G1-Wallace G2-Henderson

Posted by: BobCat Fan Fo'lyfe | Jul 7, 2009 12:36:33 AM

The only trade that would even remotely make sense for Charlotte is Wallace for Roy straight up. However, that wouldn't make sense for Portland.

On an unrelated note, I wonder if the Blazers are ready to sell Oden to the highest bidder (i.e. "for cash considerations"), or is everyone there holding their collective breath, still waiting for his potential to be realized? Remember when it was actually debatable as to whether Durant or Oden was the better #1 pick? lol...

Posted by: Newsinz | Jul 7, 2009 8:02:08 AM

ASChin:
If a starter were to leave, the most likely would be Raja Bell. Felton isn't going anywhere, unless some team offered him ridiculous money that the Bobcats couldn't justify matching.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Jul 7, 2009 8:11:41 AM

Agree that Wallace does not get traded unless we get equal value. Okafor and Bell are the only starters I could see being dealt. Would we deal Mek for a quality PF and some cap relief? I could see that. Is there any potential of a deal with Golden State to send Bell for a player or two? It was rumored prior to the draft. Unless the Cats get the right deal I expect them to sign a marginal PF in free agency to back up Diaw.

Posted by: Mark | Jul 7, 2009 8:14:51 AM

Guys, one last thing:
Over the weekend, I blogged that one possible way for the Bobcats to acquire Dallas's Brandon Bass was via sign-and-trade. Didn't know details of how that might be done, but I suspect the Bobcats were briefly involved in what the Mavs and Raptors are trying to do, involving Shawn Marion.
I do not expect the Bobcats to ultimately be the third team if that very complicated deal goes through.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Jul 7, 2009 8:28:31 AM

Wallace is a monster still in his cage. His full potential has not been released yet. If he left the fans of charlotte would hate the organization. Also Batum is a terrible player. He can't shoot, dribble, or pass.

Posted by: willi | Jul 7, 2009 8:47:59 AM

Wallace is the only Bobcat that can take over a game. He's the only star on the team.

Posted by: Musson | Jul 7, 2009 8:56:04 AM

No, No and NO! G-Wallace means too much to the Bobcats (and fans) for them to trade. He can take over a game unlike any other player on the team. I think DJ has tons of potential to be a star in this league, but the Cats can't afford to trade away Wallace.

Posted by: PantherDave | Jul 7, 2009 9:07:32 AM

he means too much to this franchise to let him go right now..especially since he is still a good player

Posted by: Bobcat Terry | Jul 7, 2009 9:45:30 AM

As much as I love Gerald Wallace, cap room means alot at the moment. I wouldn't mind seeing us move Wallace to the Blazers for Batum and Patrick Mills.

Then if we could, work a sign a trade to move Felton to the Mavs for Brandon Bass.

Our lineup would be:
PG: Augustin/Mills
SG: Bell/Henderson
SF: Radmanovich/Batum
PF: Diaw/Bass
C: Okafor/Diop/Nazr

It's a move like the Jason Richardson trade, tough to swallow at first, but ultimately makes the team better and frees up room to bring in another FA.

Posted by: James Dator | Jul 7, 2009 10:06:39 AM

WALLACE + TRADE = JUST PLAIN CRAZY

Posted by: trudukefan | Jul 7, 2009 10:07:10 AM

Wallace is a keeper are your serious, Charlotte best all round player no question

Posted by: gfgfgf | Jul 7, 2009 10:29:27 AM

I really want to see this team make it. I know some people hated Shinn so much that they hate the NBA and hate Bob and hate anything associated with this sport and just want it to fail. Others around town, don't appreciate all that Bob has done. He forks out BIG BUCKS to keep our players. Part of me doesn't want to see Wallace go, but part of me sees the lack of respect from people in Charlotte for what he's done (spend big money, resign guys, keep our ticket prices low), that it doesn't matter if we keep Wallace or whomever because this city is so lost and out of tune with it, that it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Julis Peppers | Jul 7, 2009 10:30:07 AM

i say move wallace & (newbie)brown to portland for batum, webster & frye. the future will be bright!

Posted by: larry | Jul 7, 2009 10:34:52 AM

the only people talking about moving wallace, is the only people who havent watch bobcats games just to see how valuable wallace is to this organization, move chokafor or bell before wallace you idiots..

Posted by: teemac | Jul 7, 2009 10:44:29 AM

Think people...the writer in Portland was reaching for straws and then Bonnell grabbed it, wrote this blog and got ya'll all stirred up...the Bobcats would not let Wallace go for nothing. If the Portland deal was so good, they would have pulled the trigger last year when the Bobcats made that huge roster over haul.

Posted by: Jimmy | Jul 7, 2009 11:14:59 AM

I'm a Blazers fan and I, obviously, would love G Wallace on the team. It makes me laugh that Jason Quick honestly thinks the Bobcats would part with him. Coach Brown would lose it! Got to say though, the blazers would be tough with him on the team.

Good luck with the team next year. I like your direction and you have Coach Brown, so, it is only a little time before you dominate. If you ever do decide to blow the team up, call Kevin Pritchard before getting rid of G Wallace

Posted by: Nick | Jul 7, 2009 11:18:55 AM

no way hes the best player most people have never heard of

Posted by: Danny | Jul 7, 2009 11:29:01 AM

Nobody on the Bobcats roster should be untouchable, and that includes Wallace. I don't know how good Derrick Brown is going to be, but Coach Brown evidently thought very highly of him, since he was No. 20 on our draft board. IF Brown can adequately back up VladRad and IF we can address one of our glaring needs (a shooting guard who can shoot, a backup for Diaw, and the need to dump Nazr's atrocious contract) in the process, then moving Wallace becomes more palatable.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Jul 7, 2009 11:57:15 AM

it would completely change the image of the team if you take wallace away, but do not sleep on batum......the guy is nice. I'd rather get rudy fernandez than batum but batum is probably more gifted than wallace just doesn't play as hard. it wouldn't be a bad deal but i wouldn't like it either. wallace is the ultimate gamer.

Posted by: charlottean | Jul 7, 2009 12:24:09 PM

O.K. sorry guys wallace is not going ANYWHERE , everyone saw how badly this team was without him when he got injured and to be honest i still think he has yet to peak, just let him thrive under brown and watch him become the player everyone knew he would be when we got him from the kings bench. You can teach someone to shoot, u can teach them to dribble but u cant teach the desire to win and give a 110% on every play like he does and not to mention i want to see him and henderson in the iso game together slashing to kick out for the 3 from augustin or vlad. if anyone goes i say bell and nazi. bc i think diops pressence is respected in the lane BUt his offensive game is still really sucpect. Lets just hope he's been working on his O game in the offseason. and please if any other teams do want him its gonna take more like takinig nazi and vlad contracts and us getting something of equal or more in return.

Posted by: trudukefan | Jul 7, 2009 12:26:28 PM

Wallace provides the excitement that the team has lacked for many years. In addition, he is a solid citizen as well, donating time and money through the Gerald Wallace Foundation for community projects such as the new park at Urban Restoration. I'd hate to see him go.

Posted by: Robin | Jul 7, 2009 12:57:50 PM

Wallace was on the block last season. Then he got taken put in the hospital by Andrew Bynum. Then we had our worst losing streak of the season while he was out. I think thats when the Bobcats management realized what he is to the organization. EVERYTHING!

Posted by: KRM | Jul 7, 2009 1:37:12 PM

G. Wallace is one of my favorite players in the game & is a constant force on my fanstasy squad. He is way too talented to trade away for nothing but cap relief. Jordan knows this. Now if you're talking Travis Outlaw & Jerryd Bayless, then you'd have to listen to that there pitch.

Posted by: Trez | Jul 7, 2009 1:44:41 PM

i am a huge bobcats fan and if they got rid of the great g force i would have to be very very angry and lose hope in my team and have to start liking the lakers again like i had to b4 charlotte came to be

Posted by: scott kilian | Jul 7, 2009 2:37:07 PM

The key to everything this season is Raymond Felton. The team's entire outlook is dependent on whether we end up resigning him, losing him, or swing a sign and trade.

Like I said in my above post, as much as I love G. Wallace, if it ends up being better for the Cats and we get a good price then sure, trade him away.

I was one of the few people really excited day one when I heard about the Diaw/Bell trade. That worked out well. Right now, there are a few teams that could really use Felton. Namely, I'm looking at the Pistons or Dallas.

If we could trade Wallace to the Blazers and get a backup SF and PG we could potentially swing a deal to aquire a Brandon Bass or Richard Hamilton. Hamilton is on the outs with Pistons management, and he's a Larry Brown player and a shooting SG... perfect match it seems.

Posted by: James Dator | Jul 7, 2009 3:17:19 PM

G-Force is the face of the Bobcats. If he gets shipped out for anything less than equal value, the Cats will lost what few fans we have.

Posted by: Panthers Super Fan | Jul 7, 2009 3:57:19 PM

I got news for you Charlotte-ites..Gerald Wallace would have been in Portland last year had MJ not incisted on getting Batum in return. Portland is EXTREMELY high on Batum, and rightfully so. He's a very promising player on the wing, and better than those of you who don't stay up to watch any Blazer games give him credit for. Batum would not be dealt for Wallace. It would be for Outlaw. Personally, as an avid NBA fan, not just a Blazer fan, I'd love to see Diaw in Portland. We shall see Charlotte fans, don't count your chickens before they're shipped to the market though. Remember who YOUR GM is, as a player he was great, as a GM, not so much.

Posted by: hmmm.. | Jul 7, 2009 3:59:46 PM

Trading Wallace could end up being one of those situations where a team gets better AFTER he's gone. It hasn't happened in the NBA in recent memory (that I know of), but it has happened in other sports.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to trade Wallace, and the only way it would work is if we got a starter-quality player and a solid bench player in return. I'm not sure the Blazers have those assets for us. The only way it would work would be a 3 way deal.

Posted by: Timmeh | Jul 7, 2009 4:06:33 PM

I live in Portland and am a season ticket holder. Nic Batum is better than Gerald Wallace. Bad deal for blazers.

Posted by: nic | Jul 7, 2009 4:29:51 PM

HELLO PPL THE 'BIRDMAN' IS STILL OUT THERE TO SIGN, AND HE ONLY WANTS 1MIL PER YEAR.

Also Wallace is the core in the Charlotte Bobcats. Remember when he got hurt? We were terrible and a disgrace to the NBA.

Thansks,

Posted by: willi | Jul 7, 2009 6:10:41 PM

nobody is gonna take either diop or mohommed's contract. the best case scenario we can hope for is a freak golfing accident to let some insurance money kick in. i'm not sure how many 7 footers play golf either. we're up against the odds on that situation.

Posted by: charlottean | Jul 7, 2009 6:41:14 PM

Rick-

Thanks for the response but I have to believe that there is a real chance that Okafor is dealt this offseason.
Exhibit A:
LB's comments at the end of the season ("an A+ in everything but basketball," etc).
Exhibit B:
'Cats already have two guys playing behind Mek that are making the mid-level and are virtually untradeable.
Exhibit C:
Mek is a solid player with a reasonable contract for a player his age at his position.
Exhibit D:
Mek's Base Year status is over as of July 8.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but it would seem to make sense that if a deal came about that would return a scoring guard like Rip Hamilton or Monta Ellis in exchange for Okafor, the Bobcats would have to listen.

Posted by: ASChin | Jul 7, 2009 7:39:03 PM

As long as Wallace is this team's leading scorer, they'll never make the playoffs or have a winning year for that matter. He's talent is for a complimentary player or even a 6th man level only but not a leading scorer starting.

A PF who can dribble and shoot like an SF is an asset aka R.Lewis, Hedo, R.wallace, L. odom, etc.. But an SF who has PF skills, that's a liability... aka G.Wallace.

Posted by: Wil | Jul 7, 2009 8:37:38 PM

Why do we need 50+ comments saying Wallace isn't going anywhere? I agree that it's going to take more than Batum and cap room to get rid of Wallace, but props to the guys who at least have something different to say.

Posted by: Bobby | Jul 7, 2009 9:58:59 PM

Hope this doesn't happen. Batum is developing into quite an asset. I don't want to see him leave yet. Y'all can have Ruffin and LaFrentz.

Posted by: GDH | Jul 7, 2009 10:04:06 PM

Travis Outlaw + Steve Blake + Przybilla + Rudy (preference)or Nicolas Bantum = Wallace + Diop (preference) or Nazr


This is the best trade for the Bobcats.

A Starting SF (Travis Outlaw) that can be hybrid PF in a small lineup.

A backup PG in Steve Blake that has a high Basketball IQ.

A defensive big Pryzbilla who can move and capable of starting.

Then there is the young gun (Bantum or Rudy) when combined with G. Henderson represents the wings of the future. Rudy has All-star caliber offensive potential while Bantum could grow into a Gerald Wallace Clone.


Charlotte would be giving up a defensive stopper, if they can get rid of Diop contract though (it is worst than Nazr) it would be worth it.

6 million for a backup center is questionable, to have 2 on your team is downright stupid. Diop is younger and could be a Kendrick Perkins on a good team, but Okafor limited skills clog up the lane which prevents the two from playing together.


If Portland was tempted I would throw in Okafor for Oden.

Posted by: Dan | Jul 8, 2009 12:02:02 AM

Don't worry,Portland fans don't need Wallace.Jordan is draming Batum who play like S Peppen.When Jorden came to Nike haedquarter in Portland,he told to media reporter Batum is a next S Peppen.
Forget Bobcats's fans,Portlan will keep Batum.

Posted by: eric | Jul 8, 2009 1:18:35 AM

It would be a terrible decision to trade Wallace unless it was for Rudy Gay or Danny Green, Someone young and full of potential. Wallace is a good player but what makes him great is his effort on the court and his hunger to win. So if we're not getting someone just as good or someone that has the potentail to be better then we should keep him until its necessary. He's the heart and soul of our team.

Posted by: Born_ah_heel | Jul 12, 2009 1:22:39 AM

Newsinz, it's way too early to give up on Oden. They're not gonna let him go without getting something decent in return.

Willi, I understand Batum has some growing to do, but as a 20-year-old rookie, he did shoot better than Felton ever has.

JD, there's no way you could possibly argue tha tthat trade would make the Bobcats better on the court.

Julis, the only reason ticket prices are cheap is because they can't sell them any other way. Johnson has done nothing in the community; he's never even IN the community. He then blamed Charlotte when he could choose just to put personal capacity over race when it comes to hiring decisoins within the organization.

Nick, it's obviously no match in talent, but if the Bobcats could clear out cap space and get back a pick or another young player, it could certainly be something they'd at least consider.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 12, 2009 1:47:39 AM

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