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July 02, 2009

Lakers repeat in 2010

    Ron Artest is signing with the Lakers for the mid-level? Wow. It's over in July. Short of injury, the Lakers are going to have such an advantage that everyone else is playing for second. If you have Kobe, Gasol, Bynum and Artest, it's a joke.

Posted by Observer Sports on July 2, 2009 at 11:13 PM | Permalink


look...its Bill Plaschke

Posted by: littlery | Jul 2, 2009 11:26:45 PM

Yep, its's a virtual lock, and it's why they didn't car to sign Ariza to a bigger deal. Amazing that the Cats are in such a sad position; can't seem to make a trade...can't afford to sign a free agent of note.

Posted by: Mark | Jul 2, 2009 11:28:50 PM

Everybody said the same thing when they had Kobe, Shaq, Mailman, and the Glove. Pistons said otherwise. How soon we forget.

Posted by: Bro D. | Jul 3, 2009 12:09:12 AM

Hmm...who was LA's toughest competition in 2009? Nuggets and Rockets? Nuggs face a Carmelo neutralizer in Artest and LA swaps extremely good Artest for pretty good Ariza. Think you called it Rick.

Posted by: Zed | Jul 3, 2009 12:29:14 AM

And what happened to the Mailman, Bro D.? Got injured when it mattered most, so he couldn't deliver. As Rick said above, "short of injury..." Sorry to spoil it for you, but looks like Rick got it right.

Posted by: Sandy | Jul 3, 2009 12:58:13 AM


I would love to see your thoughts on Iverson to Bobcats. His recent cryptic twitter post sounds like he is talking about playing again for Larry Brown. How could this work financially? I could see a situation where the Cats let go Raymond and replace with AI...other than that, what would have to happen?

Posted by: HJ | Jul 3, 2009 1:44:05 AM

one more point, if the celtics sign Sheed, and everyone stays healthy, rondo, allan, pierce, garnett and sheed can play with the lakers.

Posted by: HJ | Jul 3, 2009 2:08:22 AM

Last time I checked, we own the Lakers...I'm not worried.

Posted by: BlockParty | Jul 3, 2009 6:41:35 AM

wow, if artest goes to the lakers that would make them even better or worse, depending on his attitude with kobe.. we will never know how it would have work with mcgrady, artest and yao(yao career might be over) but i still need to see the lakers, magic or the cavs beat the celtics with a healthy garnett.. KG is the man..

Posted by: teemac | Jul 3, 2009 9:59:38 AM

Agree...The Spurs may be able to win a couple games in a playoff series with Jefferson, but other than that it is not even fair.

I don't see Boston getting a whole lot better either...even with sheed. Guys are getting too old, and that would be way too many egos for a team to handle. Especially with Doc as a coach.

Posted by: kjk | Jul 3, 2009 10:26:22 AM

Why in the thundering blue hell would we let go of Felton to bring in someone like AI who at most has 2 years left?

Let go of a starting caliber PG (which would mean Dontell Jefferson would then be our #2 PG on the depth chart behind DJ) for an aging has been that showed in two different cities last year that he's not willing to take a lesser role for the good of the team?

Where's the logic?

Posted by: Will | Jul 3, 2009 10:58:39 AM

If we can sign Bass, Charlotte would almost be halfway decent. We'd just need a backup shooting guard who can actually shoot, somehow dump Nazr's contract and continue developing Ajinca so that he can contribute in a couple seasons. Otherwise, we'd be pretty solid.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Jul 3, 2009 12:05:24 PM

This is a bad move for the Lakers. Ariza fit the Lakers like a glove, he played defense, he had no ego, and hit the three when it counted. And he is 24 years old with a lot of upside.

Artest will upset the chemistry of the team and won't be the role player that Ariza was. He is an old 29 (lots of mileage). The Lakers were in position to keep this going for several years.

The Lakers are their own worst enemy. Break up the Lakers. Yep.

Posted by: DBM LA | Jul 3, 2009 12:07:29 PM

Oh yeah, it's set in stone that Artest and Kobe will get along, and that Phil Jackson is returning. Give me a break. This is basketball, anything can happen.

Posted by: Bro D. | Jul 3, 2009 12:16:46 PM

elevator...good point. Nazr is a good guy, but wow is that roster spot and salary a drain! We have sam vincent to thank for that one. Trade away a cheap versitle player like Herman for an over the hill center with a big contract? It really is a shame, I think Larry Brown could have worked well with Walter Herman.

Posted by: kjk | Jul 3, 2009 1:11:12 PM

Iverson is one of the best players of this decade, and agruably one of the best of all time.. "Has been" I think is a pretty harsh statement for someone of his caliber.

I would never dump Felton to pick him up, but I would love to get him, it would be a good pickup. We need scoring bad, and thats exactly what he would provide. The Pistons picked him up for his expiring contract, they didnt care about his play. That allowed them to get Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva (sp?)

HJ - I completely agree about the Celtics. How can they get overlooked?

Posted by: Chase | Jul 3, 2009 3:47:14 PM

AI was great. Emphasis on "was." The fact is, his play in Detroit was poor. Whether the Pistons cared or not is irrelevant.

The last thing the Bobcats need is to give the haters and racists another reason to gripe and complain. I love AI, but combine the tats pus his reputation among a certain segment of people who will never let go of the "we talkin 'bout practice" incident, then add his diminished skills to that ... it gives me a headache thinking about it. It's just not worth it.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Jul 3, 2009 3:56:46 PM

oops, typo ... I meant combine the tats "plus" his reputation

Posted by: Elevatorman | Jul 3, 2009 3:57:53 PM

I posted a comment a couple of days ago suggesting that Raja Bell is the most logical choice to be replaced by Iverson. AI isn't a point guard so I wouldn't touch DJ or Felts. Henderson is young and cheap. I see him as an energy/defense guy off the bench. That leaves Raja. Raja is about the same age as AI and likely has as many good years left.

What we lose in defense we more than make up for in 20+ ppg. The possible downside is taking a team that excels when it moves the ball and throwing one a giant kink into that system. The upside, of course, is the go to scorer that we've never had. We also get unprecedented interests and excitement for the team.

It may not work, but if you're going to take a risk this summer, might as well go for a big pay off.

For anyone who would argue that AI doesn't play D, just look at his career steals numbers. You don't get that high without playing hard. He's 12th all time with only a handful of players averaging more per game than he does.

Posted by: Bobby | Jul 3, 2009 4:04:09 PM

AI gets most of his steals off taking risks in the passing lanes. He is not a solid on the ball defender. Those risks don't always pay off and probably average out to as many open looks per game as he averages steals.

Beyond that, his offensive style doesn't really mesh with what we already have. He's a penetrating, get in the lane type player. IF we make a move for a SG to replace Raja, then it needs to be someone who is a spot up shooter that the penetraters we already have can pass the ball out to if the defense collapses.

Adding AI to the roster we already have would essentially allow teams to only play defense inside 15 feet.

Posted by: Will | Jul 3, 2009 4:38:54 PM

I love when I hear "develop Ajinca" He's ready, but sadly the cats haven't figured out his best position isnt 4 or 5. Ajinca has great midrange and long range (for his experience level) and can keep up with point guards because of his light weight. I think he'd be an awesome super tall small forward... he can keep up with 3s, and his height creates a huge mismatch....

As far as AI, sure...Bass -HECK YEAH

Posted by: Tattoo | Jul 3, 2009 5:01:42 PM

Ajincia cant guard anybody and he would never be a 3!!! Lets see him match up with LeBron not happening!! Or any other 3 ajincia is a work in progresss!! We messed up with drafting henderson not unless we can bring in a.i and find someone to take bell and nazr's contract then we could have room to add another pf!!

Posted by: Jj | Jul 3, 2009 5:48:40 PM


The Lakers still have to resign Odom, so I don't think it's nearly the lock you're making it out to be.

Also, I wouldn't sleep on the Cavs, Celtics, or Magic. In the west, Portland is close to adding Hedo, and if by chance, Greg Oden becomes the player that he can be, the Trailblazers will be a force.

Posted by: RP | Jul 3, 2009 7:08:19 PM

The Magic have lost more than they've gained at this point. If anything, they've slipped back to the pack some.

Posted by: Will | Jul 3, 2009 9:02:34 PM

Iverson needs to play for Oklahoma City. That's the only team where his cancer wouldn't be a big factor. The ranchers out there will like his purty tattoos.

Ajinca needs steroids to beef him up and give him some rage on the court.

Lakers will not repeat. Kobe is due for another personal crisis in 2009-2010.

Posted by: Roger Clemens | Jul 3, 2009 10:32:30 PM

AI doesn't fit Bobcats offensive style? What style? We're lowest scoring team in NBA. I think Diaw could offset lack of ball movement caused by AI's presence. Charlotte is never going to get a notable free agent until they win. So to get one now he has to be tarnished or damaged in some way. Remember we got Larry Brown after the failed NY experiment. I say repeat & go for AI. He'll have a chip on his shoulder & you know effort will be there. We have a coach who knows him. This off season has only made it tougher for wanna-be playoff teams in the East. Take a risk on AI. We have to. We probably don't have much time left with Brown either.

Posted by: Les Porter | Jul 4, 2009 10:06:13 AM

Ok,,, garnett, peirce, rondo, allen and now add in Rasheed Wallace!!! Good luck to the lakers on beating that. Kobe will get sick of Artest talking his shots that wont work out.. Celtics win it next year. They would have destroyed the Lakers again this year if KG would have been 100%

Posted by: garrett | Jul 4, 2009 1:53:21 PM

Will, what you're ignoring is that LB wants guys to penetrate. He traded away his spot up shooters.

Why replace Raja w/ a spot up shooter since that's the offense that he excels at?

I'm not saying AI is perfect, but you can't say he doesn't fit Larry Brown's team simply because he works best going to the basket.

You're right that he probably does get burned on D more than Raja. I was arguing that you can't criticize his effort on either end the court. He brings offensive abilities that this team had never had before. Like him or not, that's the rational if the Cats bring him to Charlotte.

Posted by: Bobby | Jul 5, 2009 7:37:02 PM

Charlotte was LAST in ppg last season.

Posted by: Bobby | Jul 5, 2009 7:38:30 PM

EM, I'm tired of your whining about shooters off the bench. Radmanovic is a great shooter at forward. I guess you and Felton got the same basketball lessons, but there ARE other ways to score outside of 20-foot jumpers.

DBM, Artest plays GREAT defense, certainly superior to Ariza's.

BroD, Jackson agreed to coach the Lakers on 7/3.

kjk, coaches don't make trades. GMs (Higgins) and the men who control them (Jordan) do.

Chase and Bobby, Iverson is not a scorer any more. He just jacks up shots. It's tough NOT to score 17 PPG on 15 shots. He's just not going to be a 20 PPG player any more. And we did have a great scorer here. How far did we get with Jason Richardson and G-Force scoring 20+ each?

Tattoo, Ajinca ain't no SF. He can't shoot, and there's NO WAY he can match up with 3s on defense.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 12, 2009 12:30:23 AM

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