July 16, 2009
Portland a factor in Felton talks?
Chances are, the Bobcats have leverage in these negotiations with restricted free-agent point guard Raymond Felton. That could potentially change -- emphasize the word "potentially'' -- if the Utah Jazz chooses to match the Portland Trail Blazers' offer sheet to power forward Paul Millsap.
If Millsap goes back to Utah, then Portland starts shopping again. The Blazers would be one of the few teams with considerable salary-cap room this summer and GM Kevin Pritchard has acknowledged some interest in Felton.
I don't know if Felton would be next on Portland's wish list. And even then, would the Blazers value Felton enough to offer him more than the Bobcats would match to retain him? All good questions, because it's hard to gauge how the Bobcats' financial issues affect what they would or wouldn't do to maintain their core talent.
Recall managing partner Michael Jordan saying he didn't see any situation "where (Felton) is not with us.'' It would be interesting to see some other team test that presumption.
Posted by Observer Sports on July 16, 2009 at 09:41 AM | Permalink
Let him go and have DJ run the point. He has much more long term potential than Ray Ray.
Posted by: James Reed | Jul 16, 2009 9:54:14 AM
According to ESPN.com, Felton's agent and Higgins had a meeting in Las Vegas and the two sides are nowhere near close.
Posted by: Will | Jul 16, 2009 9:54:17 AM
Wats up? hey wat will happen if they do want him? So is there a way that we could be in a 3 way trade to somehow get boozer if not, Who do u think we could get for felton? and do u think we could package nazi or rad-mans contract with felton to take some weight off or shoulders? I say lets shop felton around just to see wat can be done to help us. And would you be oppossed to seeind okafour being shopped? i think he's def. trade bait.
Posted by: trudukefan | Jul 16, 2009 10:11:07 AM
I wonder if MJ would be willing to trade Felton for a case of Cuban cigars. I hope MJ stays around b/c it is pure comedy watching that moron try to run a team.
Posted by: Buzz | Jul 16, 2009 10:16:20 AM
If they're struggling to figure out how to afford felton, then how could the Bobcats absorb $12 million or so in salary for Boozer? Even if you could find a 3-way to make it work under the cap, Portland isn't going to take junk off the Bobcats' payroll to make such a thing happen.
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Jul 16, 2009 10:20:22 AM
I've heard rumors that while Iverson is in talks with the Clippers, that Charlotte still has interest. If Portland gives Felton a $8m/yr offer, can you see the Cats letting him walk and giving AI the full MLE? They would bring back Cartier and have him back up DJ. You have to admit, having DJ, AI, and Raja as a three guard rotation doesn't sound bad in terms of offense/defense/shooting/ball handling. Gerald Henderson would be in the mix at the 2 and backing up Wallace at the 3. A top 9 rotation of AI, DJ, Raja, Henderson, Wallace, Diaw, Brown, Okafor, and Gana doesn't look bad. And if we can get anything from Ajinca and Cartier, then we may be solid.
Posted by: Tijo | Jul 16, 2009 10:32:42 AM
They need to get rid of DJ, Wallace, and Okafor and start building a real team because with those 3 on the roster they are going no where. They have already screwed up by not drafting Hansbrough and letting him slip to Indiana. Larry is a great coach but to have drafted that duke dummy he made a big mistake. Brown may turn out to be something but we shall see. Bobcats need to start spending some money and pulling in some real players to turn this team around. It is quite obvious that Bob does not want to be in it for the sport and only for money, hence, why, he is already wanting to sell the team and hopefully if MJ purchases the team that he does not screw up the Bobcats like he did the Wizards. This is basketball country and with the 6 time National Champion Tarheels just down the road the Bobcats need to start acting/being treated like this is basketball country.
Posted by: Kevin | Jul 16, 2009 11:19:17 AM
hey kevin, you sound like a real dummy and have no clue about basketball, get rid of a young point and good shooter in dj, get rid of your heart with gerald, now you make a decent poitn about okafor, but get real man if you thinkdj and gerald is going anywhere. i would do a trade with felton for a good power forward and give dj a chance to run the point..
Posted by: teemac | Jul 16, 2009 11:38:42 AM
hey rick what free agent do you think the bobcats have a real chance of signing. i know lot of people are talking about A.I. but lets be real about it. if the bobcats sign him yea he'll sell tickets but the bobcats are a young team. just get ready for the team to just blow up.
Posted by: kenyo | Jul 16, 2009 11:40:51 AM
Hey Kev, that guy May that played in Chapel Hill worked out real well for the Bobcats, huh? Just what they need, another forward that is going to flop in the NBA.
Posted by: James Reed | Jul 16, 2009 12:01:56 PM
What is the word on the Cats getting Baby Davis?
Posted by: panthers24 | Jul 16, 2009 12:19:12 PM
Why on earth should the Cats get rid of DJ??? That guy has SO much potential to be a star in this league. We just got a peak at it last season. Can't wait see what he brings this year!
Posted by: PantherDave | Jul 16, 2009 12:29:24 PM
Wow Kevin, you just made yourself look like a total imbecile.
Posted by: Will | Jul 16, 2009 1:13:44 PM
portland isn't going to offer felton 8 million a year. they've made a low ball offer and they're waiting for felton to find something better which isn't necessarily the right way to handle it. my guess is either they smarten up or felton takes the one year tender with a bad taste in his mouth. you would think the team would treat the guy better but again they show that the organization lacks class. augustin is outstanding but he can't play 48 minutes a game at both the 1 and the 2. and bells a free agent next year. not to mention there aren't 20 point guards better than felton in the league.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 16, 2009 1:16:06 PM
Raymond has been in the league for a few years now and his decision making with the basketball is putrid...
He is just not a point guard...
Posted by: Scott | Jul 16, 2009 1:16:19 PM
i meant the bobcats made a lowball offer btw
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 16, 2009 1:21:44 PM
GET RID OF FELTON AND WALLACE 4 portlands BATUM AND BAYLESS.....they get good players and we get basically the same players at a cheaper price, except bayless is gonna be a scoring machine
Posted by: Dustin Caravaglia | Jul 16, 2009 1:43:46 PM
Only player on Portland that would make trading away both Felton and Wallace is someone who should have been on the court with them the last few years... Brandon Roy.
And Kevin, as a die hard Tar Heel fan, I am disgusted by how ignorant you make our fanbase look...
Posted by: SCB | Jul 16, 2009 2:17:20 PM
How in the world is Felton/Wallace for Bayless/Batum "basically the same talent". People complain about Felton's shooting %, and Bayless is 10 times worst. Batum is a young guy with some potential but not even close to become what Gerald Wallace has become. Away from Lebron, Anthony and Pierce, Wallace is same or better than any other SF in the league. He's the best rebounder & defender SF in the league (See ESPN Stats) and he is in the Top 10 in almost every other category.
That is the worst trade I've ever heard. The only way that would make sense is if Portland takes Nazr and Radmanovics contract as part of the deal, and that would never happen.
Posted by: RobC | Jul 16, 2009 2:26:09 PM
bobcats need to keep the tar heels on the roster if we want to stay good
Posted by: Sean May | Jul 16, 2009 2:51:49 PM
No Felton, no playoff. Just how it is. Sorry but last year saw to many times Bobcats had 15-20 lead then with Felton on bench and DJ runnin the floor, the lead disappeared. Why don't you let #20 actually play a whole season as a PG then start all the criticisms. DJ has proved nothing so far, so why would you want to put it on the line when they're actually close to making the playoffs? Oh I forgot, we're in Charlotte, NC...
Posted by: jdub | Jul 16, 2009 3:57:32 PM
bcats need to trade may, nazr, radmonovics, and ajinsa to get either a slashing g/f or scoring pf. also if felton doesn't want to sign then they should package him and above palyers(nazr, radmonovich, and ajinsa0 off to houston for mcgrady's contract and jermaine taylor.
Posted by: desmond | Jul 16, 2009 4:03:06 PM
You charlotte fans sure like your players don't you? You want to unload Muhammed and Radmonovic...that's 12 million by itself, along with Wallace (who's done after the next concusion btw), another 9 million. Add into that Felton, who Portland doesn't want, maybe at around 5 or 6 million. That's generously 27 million you want to dish out. How in the world are planning on doing that with Portland? You won't get Roy. You won't get Aldridge or Oden. You won't get Fernandez. Wallace would have been in Portland last year had MJ not insisted on Batum, so you won't get Batum. I highly doubt Przybilla could be had...SO...
That narrows it down to Outlaw (3.6 million), Blake (4 million), Webster (4 million+ for 4 more years), and Bayless (2 million & Portland is really high on and won't just give away). If you ad up all of these contracts plus the cap space if Utah matches, you're looking at most 19 million. Sorry kids, it won't work.
Now, if you want to trade Augustin and Wallace, Portland can work something out, but you get to pick from the guys listed in that second paragraph, and like it or not Webster is better than you think, and Outlaw is a stud off the bench. If we were to send Outlaw, Webster, and Bayless...I think MJ would look at that.
Outside of those guys though, you're dreaming if you think Portland will give anybody up. Which is why Portland is so hard to make a deal with, yet everybody still covets their talent. I think Portland will wait until Feb to make a deal if they can't work something out with Detroit for Prince. Depending on how Washington is playing, they may make a push for Butler...who's better than Wallace anyway.
Posted by: hmmm... | Jul 16, 2009 4:12:48 PM
Felton is a solid player, but if signing him precludes the Cats from making any other moves that improve their overall roster, I think they may have to let him go via a sign and trade.
Posted by: Ari | Jul 16, 2009 4:30:14 PM
Enough with the "Felton leaves the game with a 20 point lead and DJ loses it" argument. Of course our second string couldn't hold a lead, Diop, Vlade, Cartier, Juwan...? Felton played with the starters who could score. You could put Chris Paul on the floor with our second string and we wouldn't have held a lead. Not to mention, Felton certainly wasn't the scoring machine who lead to a 20 point lead.
Posted by: mp | Jul 16, 2009 5:05:49 PM
Using the ESPN NBA trade machine is pretty fun, and I suggest any fans try it if you want to play MJ/Rod Higgins...
Here's one to ponder though:
Sign and trade Felton with Nazr Mohammed and Gerald Wallace to Milwaukee for:
Not saying it's realistic or would ever happen, but it's fun to think about...
Another possibility would be Felton/bad contract Mohammed for Chris Kaman from LA's other team. For whatever reason, they've been trying to move him for a while now...
Posted by: Clayton | Jul 16, 2009 5:08:01 PM
there is nothing portland can offer that the bcats will take other than roy. i think houston would deal mcgrady for some high priced c/f to try to be better than memphis and new orleans. in step the bcats with nazr, ajinsa, felton, and maybe radmonovic. the move clears cap space and gives the bcats someone to trade latter or have a scoring machine off the bench. rockets desperate for bigs bcats swoop in for the steal.
Posted by: desmond | Jul 16, 2009 5:14:36 PM
the bobcats need to sign nate robinson to the MLE since the knicks wont match it, then trade felton away for a PF and a draft pick
Posted by: jeremy | Jul 16, 2009 6:02:18 PM
Wow, the Portland homer above thinks we overrate our players? What GM in the world makes a Wallace/Augustin for Outlaw/Webster/Bayless? Of course YOU do. You get a borderline star and a promising young pg for one rotation player. No wonder no one can deal with Kevin Pritchard (if those are his expectations), and no wonder he needs a point-guard if that's what they're running onto the floor. Bottom line, Bobcats will re-sign Felton, get a backup pf (even if we can't dump a bad contract) and Portland gets knocked out in the first round of the playoffs. Maybe they'll get some insurance on Greg Oden's knees too.
Posted by: Will | Jul 16, 2009 6:37:35 PM
I can't imagine that any of you guys have a clue about basketball at any level....but your posts are somewhat funny.
Posted by: MajorLeague | Jul 16, 2009 7:19:22 PM
The Jazz are matching Portland's offer to Millsap, so maybe they will be interested.
Posted by: mp | Jul 16, 2009 9:06:08 PM
I'll say it again. Iverson would be the best thing that happened to this franchise as long as it is a one year deal. Many experts from ESPN agree. I like Felton a lot, but the $$ have to be right.
Posted by: HJ | Jul 16, 2009 10:14:51 PM
There is no comparison between DJ and Felton. DJ is the better shooter and Felton is superior is every other aspect of the game...especially defensively. If you don't play defense you don't win games.
Posted by: murrell | Jul 16, 2009 10:32:17 PM
Good, let Portland be saddled with him. Maybe they can sign May, too. It would be appropriate that those two bums go to the team that screwed us over in the draft so that we ended up drafting those two. Let them be the cursed ones.
Posted by: Will | Jul 17, 2009 9:33:22 AM
we were highly successful last year with felton and DJ playing together. do not forget that our w/l % after the moves was good enough for the playoffs had we had that group for the entire season. we just need continuity and patience regarding future deals. nobody is taking nazr or diop or radmonovic's contracts in these economic times unless we're giftwrapping an all-star who we don't have with it or unless its expiring. we got 2 years to tough it out and creep into playoff contention developing what we have already. then when some of the bad contracts come off the books or are more available to be dealt........THEN we can add a real piece to become a legit contender. patience is going to get us there. thank god we didn't sign bass like most of the people on here wanted.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 17, 2009 1:52:40 PM
I wonder if the Lakers would be interested in a sign & trade of Felton/Nazr for Odom and somebody?
Posted by: usc88 | Jul 17, 2009 3:17:59 PM
Send Felton and Henderson to Portland for
Batum, Webster & Blake. Then facilitate a three team trade acquiring Boozer by sending Bell & Nazr to Cleveland, with Ilgauskas moving to Utah.
Posted by: Larry | Jul 17, 2009 3:56:54 PM
Love how the boo birds are back out. Everyone hated on Felton, then they started to realize that the team we far better with him, now that the season is removed a bit, everyone wants to believe that DJ is capable of being a starter and that Felton is terrible.
Good luck reaching the playoffs without felton, bcats...
Posted by: A Fan | Jul 17, 2009 4:47:38 PM
Trading Raymond would be a move consistent with most Jordan managerial decision, i.e., Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison. Sure D.J. could run this team (in a few years), but give him a chance to grow first, and give Raymond the chance to run the team, last year was his first real opportunity doing that. Bickerstaff years was a coaching wasteland, and I don't know what the heck Sam Vincent was doing. You now have a coach, and a talented point guard, notwithstanding some sort of financial hardship, he should stay!
Posted by: KW | Jul 17, 2009 5:03:54 PM
The bobcats perfer letting felton go, but they want to ensure that he is taking care of. If another team offer felton $5m or more the bobcats will let him go and do a deal with AI.
Posted by: tyrone wooten | Jul 17, 2009 9:58:29 PM
How about we let Felton walk out the front door and bring Earl Waston in through the back door since the Thunder waived him and just give DJ the car keys to Mercedes!
Posted by: Bobcat4Life | Jul 18, 2009 9:45:51 AM
its clear these clowns don`t want to win.poor management bad coaching.and players nobody else wants.like i said from day one.get your money early so when your older it really benefits you later.change is always good.just cant give raymond keys to cadillac.
Posted by: larry e felton jr | Jul 18, 2009 3:15:45 PM
well i think felton kind makes the bocats the bobcats he put the bob in bobcats in situations he showed yp him and diaw of course with his soft touch at his pint dj is a great six man
Posted by: somebody | Jul 19, 2009 1:48:32 AM
I'll run the point.
Posted by: Boris Diaw | Jul 20, 2009 1:10:40 PM
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