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February 09, 2010

Bobcats near trade deadline

 There's a report on espn.com that the Charlotte Bobcats and Boston Celtics are in trade talks involving Glen "Big Baby'' Davis. I'm told the two teams have talked, but I wouldn't be so certain Davis would be the guy the Bobcats covet.

The Celtics need another guard who can knock down shots, which brings D.J. Augustin (or possibly Flip Murray) to mind. Obviously, the Bobcats would love to get Rasheed Wallace, a longtime favorite of coach Larry Brown, who hasn't played particularly well of late in Boston.

The beauty of Wallace in Charlotte would be his wide skill set, You could pair him with any of three big men -- Tyson Chandler, Nazr Mohammed or Boris Diaw -- and he could blend with whatever strengths and weaknesses the other big man had.

With the Feb. 18 trade deadline looming, the Bobcats are looking around at any possibility to add another big, particularly a power forward. You have to wonder about the Knicks' Jordan Hill and Chicago's Tyrus Thomas is intriguing (although the Bulls apparently want an awful lot to give him up).

Posted by Observer Sports on February 9, 2010 at 04:27 PM | Permalink

Comments

i'd give them acie law. rasheed is done. who in their right mind would give away dj for rasheed.

Posted by: joe cool | Feb 9, 2010 4:35:01 PM

I'd do Murray for Rasheed!

DJ is in Brown's dog house for sure. But we don't have a legit point behind Felt if we trade DJ.

Posted by: STH | Feb 9, 2010 4:38:40 PM

They can trade for me. I am ready to play after I leave Dunkin Doughnuts.

Posted by: Sean May | Feb 9, 2010 4:52:26 PM

If Bobcats trade for Rasheed Wallace, they can kiss my season tickets goodbye.

Posted by: rufus say no way | Feb 9, 2010 4:55:08 PM

Glen Davis? He's horrible and we definitely don't need him. Since there are rumors about Knicks and Pacers interested in Acie Law, I think Acie Law for Jordan Hill maybe possible.

Posted by: Ro_bobcats | Feb 9, 2010 5:01:13 PM

I wouldn't get your hopes up about Acie Law for Jordan Hill. I like Acie, and he's probably been underutilized here. But he's reached a point in the league's perception where he's a throw-in. It would be awfully hard for the Knicks to sell dealing a rookie lottery pick for a player his current team often leaves inactive -- regardless of Hill often being inactive.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Feb 9, 2010 5:16:06 PM

No way the Knicks trade Hill for Law...I doubt they'd trade Hill for DJ straight up. Wallace doesn't do it for me at this point (in a deal for DJ), but he'd be a veteran upgrade over Diaw. Still, let's not mortgage the farm this seasnon just to make the playoffs. I'm fine with dealing DJ, even Diaw, if we get the starting 4 we need (and a backup PF). I'd try for Thomas.

Posted by: Mark | Feb 9, 2010 5:17:43 PM

Just say no to Big Baby and Sheed. Both will not help on this team. The T. Thomas or J. Hill ideas are better... get up and coming talent. If we can get Hill for A. Law, then do it, but I doubt the knicks are that dumb.

Posted by: Tijo | Feb 9, 2010 5:20:44 PM

Rasheed Wallace is a 'big'? He won't go within 18 ft of the basket....

Posted by: Ronny | Feb 9, 2010 5:22:03 PM

Bucks are supposedly shopping Warrick (realgm)...a player we coveted early on. Thomas still has promise and could be a real defensive force in the right system.

No one on the Celts interests me. Wallace is spent and Big Baby just doesn't seem like a fit, especially if we're sacrificing a lottery pick.

Posted by: Zed | Feb 9, 2010 5:26:52 PM

Definitely Big Baby. Rasheed would help too, but he will not be able to provide enough to the team to make him worth giving up Augustin.

Posted by: QC King | Feb 9, 2010 5:32:12 PM

Rick, don't forget that Acie Law is also a lottery pick (1st round 11th) in 2007. Both Law and Hill are underutilized on their respective teams.

Posted by: Ro_bobcats | Feb 9, 2010 5:34:54 PM

Glen Davis was literally the least productive player of the previous NBA season, according to the Wins Produced statistical metric. Davis is beyond terrible. I'm headed to the Wizards game tonight - if we trade for Glen Davis, I swear I will stop going until his contract expires.

We should pursue Ty Thomas as hard as we can.

Posted by: Bobcats | Feb 9, 2010 5:40:13 PM

I'm a little intrigue by Rasheed, if you can get him to play in the post more. Davis is really nothing more than a big body that can hit the occasional jump shot. Thomas is just a younger Tyson Chandler, a run and jump guy who really doesn't provide much else in terms of basketball skill.

Posted by: Jeff P. | Feb 9, 2010 6:10:06 PM

Ro Bobcats:
I didn't forget Acie was a lottery pick, and I think he can still play. I'm simply saying it seems a longshot at best that the Knicks would give up a rookie who was a top-10 pick for a guy who has already become a throw-in on other deals.
Think of it this way: If the Bobcats traded Gerald Henderson for the 13th man off another roster, many of you would go nuts.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Feb 9, 2010 6:14:44 PM

why would we trade for glen davis when we let sean may go?

and for DJ? i don't believe brown is down on DJ i just think its part of his teaching process. I think we're starting to see brown favor DJ a lot again. He was only down on him when he was playing TERRIBLE back in november and december. the guys been playing great of late.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 9, 2010 6:24:40 PM

Why don't yawl let Larry Brown do his thing, he has proven time and again that he knows how to build a winner and he certainly doesn't need any of you guys advice to do it. And for the guy wanting to give up his season tickets please do, you sound like a thousand of band wagon fans that live in Charlotte.

Posted by: Jody | Feb 9, 2010 6:44:21 PM

I would definitely trade for Big Baby. He would be able to provide energy, scoring & rebounding plus defense to the team off the bench. Please make the trade for Augustin.

Posted by: Assistant Coach | Feb 9, 2010 7:04:14 PM

Hey Rufus say no way. I hope you mean that. They don't need fans like you.

Posted by: scoot | Feb 9, 2010 7:05:55 PM

Rasheed Wallace is a lazy, washed up head case.

Posted by: Marty Hurney | Feb 9, 2010 7:33:06 PM

BOS doesn't need a guard who can knock down shots, but a backup PG. I highly doubt BOS would trade Rasheed Wallace for DJ Augustin. The Celtics recruited RW heavily last summer and to turn around and dump him would not look good. Wallace has played at a B/B- level - OK, not great.

I don't want to fool anybody about Glen Davis, but he has more value than some of you guys are giving him credit for. I would take him over Ty Thomas any day of the week. Much better offensive player and far less toxic.

Posted by: colincb | Feb 9, 2010 7:45:10 PM

bobcats stink, cavs all the way! Cavs will get Antawn Jamison to assure nba championship.

Posted by: Jim | Feb 9, 2010 7:49:42 PM

DJ for Big Baby will be okay not Flip Murray for anyone......he's one of our best reservers. We can not give him up and watch to hope this don't become another stupid trade only for moving bodies. DJ for Big baby along with Diop will work fine.

Posted by: nunu | Feb 9, 2010 8:34:55 PM

Glen Davis is not the guy we want. Terrible character guy. Heard him using much vulgar language in pre-game warmups in front of little children. Hes a big jerk.

Posted by: scbillsfan | Feb 9, 2010 8:36:02 PM

acie law is more than capable of playing backup pg

Posted by: tmack | Feb 9, 2010 8:59:11 PM

My name is Rick Bonnell, I think we should trade a young under achieving point guard for an old under achiever who doesn't help us out. Have you seen Wallace this year? I've lost all respect for your opinion after this piece. Big Baby would give us a low post scorer with a nice mid-ranger jumper who can rebound. I'd take that over an over the hill out of shape power forward who sits beyond the arc. But hey what do I know I don't cover the team.

Posted by: Brandon | Feb 9, 2010 9:00:35 PM

My name is Rick Bonnell, I think we should trade a young under achieving point guard for an old under achiever who doesn't help us out. Have you seen Wallace this year? I've lost all respect for your opinion after this piece. Big Baby would give us a low post scorer with a nice mid-ranger jumper who can rebound. I'd take that over an over the hill out of shape power forward who sits beyond the arc. But hey what do I know I don't cover the team.

Posted by: Brandon | Feb 9, 2010 9:00:50 PM

As a long time Celtics fan trust me when I say you want no part of Rasheed. He doesn't play defense and his offensive game is limited to setting screens and launching threes. I would take Augustin in a heartbeat for 'Sheed, but I really like who the Bobcats have become this season and would hate to see that ruined by the corpse of Rasheed Wallace.

Posted by: Abba-Zaba | Feb 9, 2010 9:04:12 PM

I'd pass on R. Wallace in a New York minute (unless Boston would give him up for, say, Law & Graham...far fetched, I know). I also don't think Davis is worth giving up D.J., especially since bringing in Big Baby would also lead to diminishing D. Brown's role. Not sure where Chris Brousard heard that D.J. is "out of favor" with Larry Brown; Augustin is playing major minutes lately, sometimes spelling Raymond for most of any given quarter. D.J. was definitely in the dog house earlier this season, but to say that now implies that one really isn't watching Bobcats games closely.

Posted by: Newsinz | Feb 9, 2010 9:04:40 PM

I'd pass on R. Wallace in a New York minute (unless Boston would give him up for, say, Law & Graham...far fetched, I know). I also don't think Davis is worth giving up D.J., especially since bringing in Big Baby would also lead to diminishing D. Brown's role. Not sure where Chris Broussard heard that D.J. is "out of favor" with Larry Brown; Augustin is playing major minutes lately, sometimes spelling Raymond for most of a quarter.

Posted by: Newsinz | Feb 9, 2010 9:10:07 PM

I was planning to go to a few games. If the Bobcats trade for Wallace,they wont see me

Posted by: doug | Feb 9, 2010 9:37:49 PM

So, the Bobcats blew yet another draft pick by choosing DJ Augustin instead of Brook Lopez.. Now they are supposedly already thinking about shipping him away for a has-been (Wallace) or a never was (Daviis). Surely, there is no truth to this rumor. Augustin should be worth more than either of those two.

Posted by: KJ | Feb 9, 2010 10:04:38 PM

whoever the bobcats will get I don't care because they will just qualify for playoff?, then what? waste of time and money my friend....

Posted by: jc | Feb 9, 2010 10:13:46 PM

you guys are hilarious. calling tyrus thomas toxic when comparing him the big baby? they're both young and davis has problems on and off court. thomas is rightfully mad he lost minutes to rookie taj gibson while he was injured. thomas should handle it better but i mean he's got reason....thomas is far more fitting for our team also.

what makes any of you think the same guy that put a stationairy bike next to the bench for sean may would let big baby crack the lineup? crazy.

and talking about flip like he's the face of the franchise is hilarious. he's on a 1 year deal and he's 30. DJ is 22. you don't dump assets in deals unless you're making a major push. we need to develop long term. guys like ajinca, DJ, and derrick brown...and even gerald henderson are better off here.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 9, 2010 10:16:03 PM

I'm a huge celtics fan, as well as a bobcats fan - but follow the celts hardcore..glen davis is not what this team wants. There's better options available, there has to be. He's an egomaniac, thinks hes gods greatest bball player, and has acted like a complete fool this entire season. He's nothing but a cry baby at times and then will turn around and think he's the best..DJ needs to stay in charlotte, give the kid some time..some players dont just establish themselves instantaneously like Lebron..

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Feb 9, 2010 10:51:40 PM

I would rather give us Boris Diaw, Stephen Graham, and Acie Law for Tyrus Thomas...

Posted by: Elliot | Feb 9, 2010 10:55:14 PM

I guess since the Jackson trade worked out so well the bobcats are willing to try another guy with the hothead/attitude label? I buy into the big baby rumors, it's young role players switching teams... but how would sheed accept being dealt from a championship contender to a possible playoff contender? Hopefully like a professional, but the cats would be rolling the dice once again.

Posted by: David | Feb 10, 2010 1:00:00 AM

I would NOT trade DJ at all...

Wallace would be a great addition for the playoff push, but DJ is not worth it.

I like Murray too, though w/ Jackson we have a pure scorer

Posted by: Greg S | Feb 10, 2010 1:47:00 AM

Dont trade flip murray? flip murray sucks balls...he only makes 3's every once in a while...it looks like he makes more 3's than he really does because they come in late in the game which is good, but if he hits them all the time then we wouldnt have to shoot 3's to get back into the game...dj is way better than what you guys are saying about him.

Posted by: kb | Feb 10, 2010 2:21:29 AM

I suggest DJ or Acie paired with Graham for Washington's Andray Blatche.

Posted by: larry | Feb 10, 2010 3:15:32 AM

you people are crazy to think anyone is interested in Acie Law....it's only Agustin that still has slight interest and you're lucky to get Davis for him. Davis has at least put up some good numbers when he started last year in KG's absence. Agustin has done very little on a weak team that is only now starting to play at an above .500 level, and mostly without DJ. Acie will be playin on his lunch hour in about 2 years.

Posted by: Lee in Oregon | Feb 10, 2010 3:21:46 AM

Is "Big Lazy" Davis really the guy you go and get at the deadline? I know DJ has regressed this year from last years top 10 rookie season, but you really wanna do that when Felton's in his final year? It's not like we'd be saving money, DJ is on a more than affordable contract for two years past this.

I'm critical of the Bobcats PF position, but this just doesn't do anything for me... This is the first trade since before the JRich/Dudley for Diaw/Bell trade that I haven't approved (if it gets done).

Posted by: Nick | Feb 10, 2010 6:20:23 AM

I watch every celtics game and I would much rather keep glen davis than wallace. Maybe Wallace is saving it for the playoffs but he is the most frustrating player to watch. Takes and misses lots of jump shots, doesn't provide help side defense, can't jump to rebound....just looks lazy and I really feel the celtics would be much better getting hustling plays from sheldon(top or close to for blocks and rebounds records at duke) and davis. Yes davis gets blocked a lot, but last year when he was in his groove he was avoiding the blocks by using the hoop to ward off the defenders. He knows how to get open and he is literally the only celtic I ever see on the offensive boards except Rondo. Plus he sets the best picks by far....perks good too at that. Can't make up my mind about dj for davis but I would basically give away wallace and his contract for anything. Seeing him lackadaisically move around on the court almost takes away some of that positive energy that the big three thought they were getting when they showed up to his doors steps. I was all for the signing too.

Posted by: ryan | Feb 10, 2010 6:50:40 AM

Does anyone know if we have talked to Sacramento about Jason Thompson? I know there were a few articles out last week saying that the Bobcats were interested in him but I havent heard anything since. He would be the best option I think if Sacramento is willing to deal him.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 10, 2010 7:33:39 AM

Davis is a good player but his discipline is questionable and that won't work with Coach Brown. Wallace would be a great addition: he's worked with Brown successfully before, he's a veteran, reliable big man who can work the paint and stretch defenses with his shot.

Posted by: David | Feb 10, 2010 8:25:52 AM

how can yal say big baby or rasheed not worth it. a nice size jump shooter and post players. this would improve the bobcats significantly. but keep murray i like Dj but he has not been consistent and maybe utilize ac law which i think will be a good player if given a opportunity.

Posted by: Tbird | Feb 10, 2010 8:35:11 AM

Sheed would be a good fit because he defends the post and on offense would be a good kick out option off penetration. Davis is a legit banger but his weight reminds me of May. Brown would give up DJ before he would Flip. Law is a "wanted" option. No one is asking for him. He is a throw in.

Posted by: Roger | Feb 10, 2010 9:09:14 AM

Rick aren't the Bobcats at all concerned that Boston could be a first round playoff opponent and they'll have to watch DJ Augustine rain in threes for the opposing team helping eliminate Charlotte? And I hope you're right about Big Baby not being the target, he has a big name, big frame but small game.

The guy has never been a great rebounder and his shooting percentage is atrocious for a big man, I'd rather take Sheed or Sheldon Williams honestly

Posted by: QCSports | Feb 10, 2010 9:10:28 AM

yes please get rid of that lazy bumm rasheed wallace to the bobcats.
the reason the celtics are loosing is because of that lazy bumm all he want to do is shoot three's. but don't get rid of big baby keep him celtics. get rid of rasheed ''lazy''wallace.

Posted by: junior | Feb 10, 2010 9:46:35 AM

we should have taken brook lopez when we had the chance.

Posted by: nope | Feb 10, 2010 10:39:11 AM

I hope this doesn't happen.....Rasheed jacks up threes all game and Davis just doesn't fit the kind of style the Bobcats are playing right now. Giving up DJ or Murray for that would be a horrible move. However if somebody wants to take Acie Law off our hands, then be our guest. I'm sure he has enough value to get a quality 4 in return.

Posted by: Smitty | Feb 10, 2010 10:42:40 AM

Here are the list of cost efficient bigs that we could target that another team would be willing to listen to the offers:

Jason Thompson
Tyrus Thomas
Mareece Speights
Ike Diogu (who is a much better scorer than people realize)
Anthony Randolph (possibly now with his injury)
and the ideal big for this team.....Carl Landry


Obviously Carl Landry is off of the market but he would be absolutely perfect for this team. A guy like Brandon Bass would probably be someone who we would end up getting in a trade.....but the problem with this team is how poorly they have drafted.

We wouldn't be having this discussion if they would have drafted Brook Lopez instead of Augustin. I am not big on revisionist history but the entire college and international scouting teams should be fired in the Bobcats organization.

Posted by: B Carroll | Feb 10, 2010 11:11:18 AM

Gerald Wallace was placed on the prelimary USA basketball roster for whatever the tourney this year... i think it's the World Championships.. probably won't make the team, but could be a good write up.

Posted by: ClayB25 | Feb 10, 2010 11:24:30 AM

difference between law and hill to the kickerbockers though bonnell is that law is an expiring contract which is what they crave. not only that but that duhon kid sucks and they are looking to trade robbinson so they really need a point guard. law being an expiring contract and playing a position of need make him more valuable to new york than that hill kid.

Posted by: the voice | Feb 10, 2010 11:29:24 AM

I will be severly disappointed in the Bobs if we trade away DJ for glen davis. That guy is a huge clown and is not aggressive. And Rasheed should be in a hoverround by now def not worth trading a lottery pick for.

Posted by: Be smart | Feb 10, 2010 11:44:56 AM

I will be severly disappointed in the Bobs if we trade away DJ for glen davis. That guy is a huge clown and is not aggressive. And Rasheed should be in a hoverround by now def not worth trading a lottery pick for.

Posted by: Be smart | Feb 10, 2010 11:44:56 AM

DJ is such a chump. I'd trade him for nearly any PF in the league.

Posted by: flanahan32 | Feb 10, 2010 11:50:32 AM

there is still time to make an offer to utah for the rental of boozers services, move chandler & french toast and take boozer for half a season and a east playoff run with boozer at C and PF, you could relegate diaw to a do-it all bench player, let boozer walk in the off season and have 12 mill freed up to spend in this crazy summer upcoming.

Posted by: brendan | Feb 10, 2010 12:29:14 PM

Rick,

Have you heard anything about a DJ for Brandon Bass trade? It seems that Bass has fallen out of favor in Orlando over the past two months. From what I saw of him at Dallas, he has starter potential. I don't think Big Baby will be anything other than a career backup.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykjuare

Posted by: Dr. Bobcats | Feb 10, 2010 12:55:31 PM

How Bout Chandler for 6 hot dogs? Then we could start one of the hot dogs at center (just as effective as chandler) and give 5 away to real fans who actually go to the game and support the bobcats (yes, you only need 5 to do this

Posted by: Jonas | Feb 10, 2010 1:19:36 PM

why dont we just trade DJ OR Acie Law for Tyler Hansbrough?

Posted by: CarolinaBoi704 | Feb 10, 2010 1:20:32 PM

DO NOT TRADE FLIP MURRAY

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Posted by: bryant80 | Feb 10, 2010 2:49:35 PM

Rasheed's one of my favorite players of all time. And there is no way I want him on the Bobcats at this stage of his career. He's a lovehandled shadow of himself. Just playing around on the ESPN trade machine, there are a lot of ways we can move DJ for a power forward. DJ + Ajinca to Orlando for Brandon Bass, for example. Bass wants out, and he has something to prove. I think he could help us ... certainly more than 'Sheed could at this point. Plus Jameer's knee hasn't been right all year, so the Magic might want PG help, even though Jason Williams has been surprisingly good.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Feb 10, 2010 3:24:11 PM

Sheeds been in the league 14 years now. Why trade for him? I'd rekindle the Tyrus Thomas talk if thats a possibility. As for Big Baby you have got to be kidding right. NO! Acie for Baby maybe but then again...NO.

Posted by: Brian | Feb 11, 2010 12:55:24 PM

I would not trade Rasheed Wallace nor big baby Davis... I want to first see all the Celtics healthy, team rebounding, Rondo staying in front of his man on D, and the rest of the team playing 48 minutes of intense quick rotating team defense.. it's is only then we will know where the weak links are... Wallace is a role player as well as Davis.. asking to much from them is asking them to play outside their strengths. Don't panic Danny, let this season go and see where the cards fall. I think this team at full strength can do some major damage in the playoffs even without home court advantage. We just need to become a defensive force again and dominate the boards at every postion..!

Posted by: Bill Lavin | Feb 12, 2010 1:24:16 AM

Jim keep ur dumb sainless comments out of here...weve beaten u 2 times already and bout to be 3...so go spend ur mind sum where else in that garbage can city called Cleavland

Posted by: parker | Feb 12, 2010 10:46:16 PM

Rashed Wallace would be nice. I expect us to go after a scorer if anyone.

Posted by: diploma | Feb 14, 2010 12:16:09 AM

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