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February 17, 2010

Salmons-to-Bucks spells trouble

The Bucks acquiring John Salmons from the Bulls can only be bad news for the Charlotte Bobcats.

The trade isn't official, but in some form it's going to happen Thursday. The Bucks had the currency you want at trade deadline -- expiring contracts -- and a real need for help at shooting guard, considering Michael Redd's injury.

The Bucks are also the East's best team outside the top eight and maybe the only team that is a serious threat to dislodge one of the current playoff teams from reaching the post-season, And that means trouble for the Bobcats, particularly if they stand pat through the 3 p.m. Thursday trade deadline.

Since it's all of a 90-minute drive from the north side of Chicago, take it for granted that Salmons will suit up for the Bucks Saturday versus the Bobcats. There aren't an abundance of big games in an 82-game NBA season, but that one feels big.

The Bobcats need to find a backup power forward before it's too late. The first playoff bid hangs in the balance.

Posted by Observer Sports on February 17, 2010 at 09:58 PM | Permalink

Comments

Ninth place in the eastern conference and without a 2010 1st rounder... this is what the bobcats organization is staring at right now. It really feels inevitable, especially after that nets loss. Can't help but feel like this team has played its best basketball already...

It's going to take every kind of Larry Brown magic for this team to make the playoffs. Also the bobcats-bucks games are OFFICIALLY must-win games now.

Posted by: David | Feb 17, 2010 11:11:54 PM

Rick, why don't the Bobcats go after Sean Williams formerly of the Nets. He certainly fits the bill of a backup 4 who can play defense

Posted by: Eric | Feb 17, 2010 11:36:15 PM

Rick,

How does this trade improve the Bulls' playoff push? It looks like the two teams basically switched places with the pieces they've added each.

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Feb 17, 2010 11:40:07 PM

Rick,

It was a good move, but I don't think it was neccesarily a move that makes them better than us/Miami/Chicago.

After that NJ loss, our team needs to do some soul searching before this road trip.

Posted by: cornchip | Feb 17, 2010 11:43:50 PM

Too bad the Bobcats didn't pick DeJuan Blair instead of a dookie shooting guard who can't shoot. Then we wouldn't have to talk about Sean Williams, who is garbage on the court and an epic headcase off it. If you can't play for the Nets, you can't play in the NBA (yeah, yeah, I know they just beat the Bobcats).

Posted by: Elevatorman | Feb 17, 2010 11:53:31 PM

What about making a bid at stodamire? Give up augustine, d brown and tyson chandler? That would be a sick line up for us, felton, jackson, wallace, stodamire and Mohamad.

Posted by: Thomas Leitner | Feb 17, 2010 11:56:29 PM

I won't even talk about specifics, but it's pretty apparent the team has to do something before the deadline, or else it will come down to a dogfight for just that last 8th spot, and I see the Charlotte on the outside right now. Hoping a deal gets done.

Posted by: Ari | Feb 18, 2010 12:13:20 AM

Dude, please. The Suns aren't moving Stoudamire for our scrubs. Even if they lose Amare in the offseason for nothing, that's better than paying Chandler. And even if we did get Amare, he'd be gone the second he hit free agency.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Feb 18, 2010 12:14:53 AM

Hey Elevatorman...how would you know whether Henderson can shoot or not? Larry Brown refuses to put him on the court.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 18, 2010 12:24:15 AM

Thomas:
D.J., DBrown and Tyson for Stoudemire? Did Steve Kerr suffer some brain injury, and I'm unaware of it?

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Feb 18, 2010 12:30:45 AM

I flirted a Diaw, Diop, Augustin proposal out there. If you remember, Diaw played tremendous for Phoenix with Amare was hurt and is might provide a better cost/benefit trade off. DJ is a solid, young, cheap PG and a much better prospect than Dragic. Diop..oy...he make a good 7 foot waterboy.

Posted by: cornchip | Feb 18, 2010 12:38:14 AM

Why would pheonix take DJ with goran dragic and steve nash?

Posted by: Brett Johnson | Feb 18, 2010 12:48:24 AM

A simple trade of DJ for Andray Blatche would help tremendously, but I hear the bobcats turned it down. He went off for 33pts & 13 rebounds tonight in a starting role. WTF! Pull the trigger on this one!

Posted by: larry | Feb 18, 2010 12:51:37 AM

funny, I said the exact same thing a few days ago, rick. Diaw, Diop and Augustin for Stoudemire. it definitely works money wise.

Steve Nash is in the twilight of his career and you really think dragic is better than DJ? Yeah, DJ has not played well this year, but it's funny how fast people write off 22 year olds.

Posted by: ronnie grillo | Feb 18, 2010 1:08:32 AM

Henderson is a 2 guard that CAN'T SHOOT. He didn't have a jumper at Duke and he doesn't have one now. An NBA 2 guard that can't shoot ends up struggling to find a spot in the league. Time will show that this pick will be about as bad as Morrison in '06.

Posted by: Tino | Feb 18, 2010 1:11:26 AM

time will show? Time has already shown that we got a better pick in the second round than we did with our lottery pick, so yeah, we know. It was a weak draft regardless of how you look at it.

Posted by: ronnie grillo | Feb 18, 2010 1:14:39 AM

I'm hoping Chandler can be healthy and play some decent ball, but he hasn't managed to do that at all this season. Nazr can't handle a starting load night in and night out. A trade isn't looking likely, so we need him to contribute if we're going to secure a playoff spot.

Posted by: Smitty | Feb 18, 2010 1:31:40 AM

It wasn't a terrible draft; we just made a terrible pick, as usual. Could have had Blair, who was (and is) exactly what we needed. Heck, we could have had any of several PGs (Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Darren Collison) and not had to worry about having nobody behind Raymond if we trade DJ.

Instead we are stuck with this atrocious bust. Procton is suggesting he might have magically acquired a jumpshot and is just being oppressed by mean ol' Coach Brown, because the coach evidently just doesn't want to win. Yeah, you figured out the Carolina Conspiracy, Michael. Those UNC guys picked him and paid him millions, just so they could turn around and nail him to the pine despites his stellar abilities. Whatever. That punk couldn't shoot in college, and he'd be playing if he could shoot now. He can't. Another wasted pick.

Posted by: Elevatorman | Feb 18, 2010 7:54:25 AM

Fellas. Salmons deal was just finalized and Warrick and Alexander were the Buck's pieces. If the Bulls don't find a taker for Tyrus Thomas, Warrick becomes an expiring sitting on their bench. Do we have any expirings we could swap them for Warrick?

Posted by: Zed | Feb 18, 2010 8:21:44 AM

answered my own question - Acie Law for Warrick straight up works. Not sure if the Bulls would have any motivation to do that, but...

Posted by: Zed | Feb 18, 2010 8:25:54 AM

Rick is there anyway we are going after Tyrus Thomas? I haven't heard any trade rumors involving the bobcats so are we just going to stay put?

Posted by: Tyler | Feb 18, 2010 8:30:20 AM

Funny thing is, had the FO done the right thing last year we wouldn't have to trade DJ. Lopez was the pick last year, we whiffed on it and are now facing getting 50 cents on the dollar for a 2008 lottery pick... This years draft was just as bad. Overall the draft history of this club is horrid. Trades have been good for the most part but the draft has been a virtual failure from the get go.

Posted by: SMF | Feb 18, 2010 8:48:41 AM

C'mon, Elevatorman. The Bobcats had the #12 pick last year. You can't expect much draft help at that position. If you get a solid rotation player, you take it. And I still think Henderson could become that, given a chance to develop.

The Morrison pick...yeah, that was was pretty awful at the #3 spot. No excuses there.

Posted by: G'boro Cats Fan | Feb 18, 2010 9:15:52 AM

The Kings just got Carl Landry in a deal w/ Houston if DJ is really on the block how about DJ for Landry??

Posted by: Toriano | Feb 18, 2010 9:55:05 AM

Here's hoping that the Milwaukee deal actually hurts Chicago more than Charlotte. Since they'll lose Salmons and won't really have anyone to replace his production.

Posted by: QCSports | Feb 18, 2010 10:06:26 AM

trade stoudemire for diaw?
i think the suns would like that, as they where far better with diaw playing starter than with stoudemire...

he outplayed him each time they face eachother...

top of that you're not getting deeper at the 4 at all....may be you're even lighter, because stoudemire is going to be in fouls troubles often...

Posted by: greg | Feb 18, 2010 10:29:42 AM

Toriano:
Why wouldn't the Kings want to keep Landry? Particularly since his contract is a team option for next season? I'd say Landry is at least as useful to the Kings as Augustin would be.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Feb 18, 2010 10:45:48 AM

Guess if they have not made a deal by now, than it's not going to happen.
Guess their OK with maybe or maybe not making the playoffs with Their Reluctance to add to payroll. Not saying we won't(make playoffs), but would have been nice to have some backup! Also understand it's not just about this season and getting to the playoffs. However I think the playoffs would Boost interest for next season.

Bigger Picture, Right!

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Feb 18, 2010 10:55:40 AM

The boobcats need not be concerned about Milwaukee. They tank every year around this time. Take care of buisiness and you will be fine

Posted by: Jonas | Feb 18, 2010 11:05:11 AM

You can't expect much from a LOTTERY pick? Guys who were taken a lot lower than No. 12 -- and who have less experience (i.e., less time to develop) -- are playing great while Henderson is collecting millions and producing jack squat. He'd have every chance to "develop" in the Developmental League, but no way he'd do that; he knows he couldn't shoot there either, so there would be no excuses ("waaaaah, he just doesn't get playing time, boo hoo hoo").

Posted by: Elevatorman | Feb 18, 2010 11:06:44 AM

the bobcats are the only east team not making a move, and will be the last team left out of the playoffs because of this..man we need a pf, to hell with chandler and diaw and now mohammed is hurt, please trade for warick, thomas, landry or any decent pf to help us..bobcats don't blow this playoff chance, if you do you will loose the fan support you are gaining every week..

Posted by: tim | Feb 18, 2010 11:09:16 AM

oh yeah henderson is a bum who can jump with no jumpshot and no real IQ for basketball, i thought he would Atleast have some type of basketball IQ since he went to duke.

Posted by: tim | Feb 18, 2010 11:11:10 AM

i doubt the kings would be willing to trade landry b/c that was the main reason they traded kmart...but since the kings might swing tmac and rodriguez to ny, i've heard they would prolly get jefferies, houghes, an hill in return

that leaves the kings with SEVEN PF's!!! landry, thompson, thomas, brockman, may(garbage), jefferies, and hill

im sure we could get one of them...preferably thompson, by giving them dj

what do u think about that possibility rick??

Posted by: Rain Man | Feb 18, 2010 11:25:09 AM

G'boro...
As bad as this team was, the number 12 pick SHOULD be in the rotation. When Henderson arrived at Duke in '06, he was a similar player to Vince Carter when Carter arrived at UNC in '95. Incredible athlete without a jump shot. Carter improved his game at UNC from 95-97. Henderson right now is pretty much the same player he was when he arrived at Duke four years ago. His mechanics are AWFUL and he can't throw it in the ocean. When they drafted him, I thought it was a bad pick but was hoping I was wrong. Unfortunately, I don't think I am.

Posted by: Tino | Feb 18, 2010 11:41:24 AM

Check it out per CBS Sports. I think this is a good trade...

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Posted by: I'm Smarter Than You | Feb 18, 2010 12:08:01 PM

Check it out. Tyrus Thomas for Law and Flip plus a future #1...

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Posted by: I'm Smarter Than You | Feb 18, 2010 12:09:41 PM

Rumors on ESPN.COM saying the Cats are in talks for Tyrus Thomas for Law, Murray, and a future 1st rounder. I like it. Rick have you heard any inside info?

Thanks

Posted by: MJC | Feb 18, 2010 12:09:54 PM

hearing that we just traded for Tyrus Thomas - any word on this?

Posted by: Zed | Feb 18, 2010 12:11:17 PM

how about this one......keep what we have and play up to our potential instead of having everybody looking over their shoulder all the time.

and by playing up to our potential, that means DJ should be getting more shots per game and flip and jackson not shooting 3's.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2010 12:11:51 PM

"Adrian Wojnarowski reports the trade is indeed Acie Law, Flip Murray and a future first-round pick for Tyrus Thomas."

Hate to see Flip go, but...

Posted by: Zed | Feb 18, 2010 12:13:08 PM

Chris Mannix of SI is reporting (as of noon) that we're emerging as the favorite to land Thomas. He mentions Flip and Acie as potential bait.

Posted by: D.J. Williams | Feb 18, 2010 12:19:47 PM

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/20119740?source=rss_blogs_NBA

looks like tyrus thomas to the bobcats for acie law, flip, and a future 1st...dont know about the future 1st but it brings in an energtic PF whose young are ready to prove his worth.

Posted by: brendan | Feb 18, 2010 12:23:25 PM

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/20119740?source=rss_blogs_NBA

ty thomas to the b-cats for flip, law, and future 1st

Posted by: brendan | Feb 18, 2010 12:25:55 PM

looks like trading for Warrick made Thomas expendable. CBS says we're sending Flip to the bulls with a protected for Thomas. Solves one problem, creates another...

Posted by: Zed | Feb 18, 2010 12:27:26 PM

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/20119740?source=rss_blogs_NBA

tyrus thomas to the bobcats for flip, law, and a future 1st ....word

Posted by: brendan | Feb 18, 2010 12:28:16 PM

Rick, you got scooped:

"The Bobcats, determined to add an athletic big man to their front court, have agreed to acquire Tyrus Thomas in a deal with the Bulls that would send Acie Law, Flip Murray, and a future No. 1 pick to Chicago, a person with knowledge of the situation told CBSSports.com."

Posted by: Cy | Feb 18, 2010 12:31:45 PM

reports say bobcats just traded flip and acie for tyrus thomas

Posted by: tmack | Feb 18, 2010 12:34:57 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvTs..QZ86g2OOlK2Z1uLeS8vLYF?slug=ys-thomasbobcats021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Posted by: tmack | Feb 18, 2010 12:36:13 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvTs..QZ86g2OOlK2Z1uLeS8vLYF?slug=ys-thomasbobcats021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Posted by: tmack | Feb 18, 2010 12:36:55 PM

Really, Tino? How good is Shane Battier's jumper? Dwyane Wade's?

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 18, 2010 5:13:26 PM

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