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April 30, 2010

More from Brown's press conference

-- A couple of weeks ago Flip Murray (who will be a free agent this summer) said he'd love to sign again with the Bobcats. I asked Larry Brown about that at his end-of-season press conference Friday. Brown's reaction showed he loved coaching Murray. But also that they have to figure out Gerald Henderson's role and Brown hasn't given up on Larry Hughes.

"I guess we have to see how Gerald does (in summer league and training camp), but I would never be opposed to having (Murray) on our team. He's tremendous for me because of his knowledge of the game and contributions he makes in giving me little ideas. I love it when players are engaged and aren't afraid to give their opinions in respectful ways.''

And then this unsolicited comment on Hughes:

"I think we saw Larry Hughes at about 50 percent of what he could be because he hadn't played in so long when we got him. He was way behind, but made tremendous progress.''

-- We asked several questions about Raymond Felton's impending free-agency. Larry expressed respect for what Felton does, without speaking above his pay-grade on what the team should do to retain him.

"Personally, he's been phenomenal for me to coach. He comes to every practice, he tries every drill, he tries every game. Gives all he has,'' Brown said. "We all value that, but when you look at our financial situation, that's a decision (owner) Michael (Jordan) will have to make. I know Michael thinks the world of Raymond.''

-- On entering the summer without any draft picks:

"That's one of the reasons we traded for Tyrus (Thomas) -- somebody we thought we'd never be able to get in this draft.''

-- Final thought: If that was Brown's last press conference as Bobcats coach, then I'll sure miss covering a man of such intelligence and candor. Check out this comment on under-performing center Gana Diop:

"We've got to make DeSagana better. He has a lot of work to do because, quite honestly, you can't trade his contract.''

Contrast that to the local NFL coach; can you imagine John Fox acknowledging, much less volunteering, that a player was so under-performing he's untradeable?

Posted by Observer Sports on April 30, 2010 at 02:41 PM | Permalink

Comments

Rick

Concerning Chandler, Do you think he will opt out of contract, since so many teams got a bunch of to throw at free agents, maybe he will try his luck and get overpaid again, or perhaps he wants to play for a better team.

Posted by: Deon | Apr 30, 2010 3:07:39 PM

Deon:
ZERO chance Tyson opts out.

Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Apr 30, 2010 3:15:45 PM

when larry says that about desagana....what he really means is he really wants somebody to go tanya harding on his leg so the team can collect insurance money and get a cap exception.

what's the situation on derrick brown's contract...i know 2nd rounders get the 1 year....so where does that leave him now? if you count him and tyrus thomas both....we've still only got 11 guys under contract for next year. That means we're going to HAVE to sign 2 more guys to reach the minimum and we're already over the cap.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 30, 2010 3:34:36 PM

Rick,

I know it may be a bit premature to speculate on who would possibly replace Larry Brown if he did decide to depart Charlotte, but I was curious if you had any thoughts or insight on the subject.

Posted by: Bob Henderson | Apr 30, 2010 3:37:11 PM

Rick:
Tyson would opt out if the Bobcats cut him a deal. Perhaps $24 million over 4 seasons vs. $12.3 million for just next season. This saves $6 million next season for signing Felton and gives Tyson an extension he would not be able to get with other teams. 3 more years at $4 million a year.

Posted by: Statbunny | Apr 30, 2010 4:06:59 PM

Statbunny,

That wouldn't be a bad idea, although I would prefer $21M/3Yrs. After this season he can be a backup for $5.5M ($7M in payroll) and he proved to be great off the bench.

Sigh Felton to NO MORE than $24M/4Yrs ($6.5M/Year). That will allow us to re-sign Tyrus Thomas, either Flip/Hughes for 1 year and Derrick Brown, without exceeding the Luxury Tax.

We can always try to trade Nazr Mohammed on Draft Night for nothing. Houston, New Orleans, Dallas, Chicago and New York might be looking for a backup Center without too much financial comitment. Or try to buy him out of his contract so that he can sign with any other team (Not sure how easy is that).

Posted by: RobC | Apr 30, 2010 5:14:46 PM

Charlottean that's a very funny comment "all Tonya Harding on his leg" that's too funny....I can't stop laughing...
very funny...keep up the good work.

Posted by: MajorLeague | Apr 30, 2010 5:59:27 PM

Wish LB could realize what most everyone else in NBA circles already has... Hughes is done, has been done for a couple years now. The positives he brings to the court are consistently outweighed by the negatives, and I haven't seen a lot to suggest he's a great locker room presence either.

Regarding Tyson: NO ONE opts out 10+ million dollar contracts. Some team is going to be dumb enough to throw him a multi-year contract next summer, so why would he sign basically the same deal this year and forfeit 7 million dollars in the process?

Posted by: David | Apr 30, 2010 9:35:35 PM

for hughes....i can feel what brown was saying about him not being 100%.....the truth is....the guy is a really good defender and he showed flashes of that....but he's HORRIBLE offensively and always has been. he's had years where he was better than he was this stretch run with us, but the majority of his career, this falls right in line. anything he or flip could bring to the table.....i'm positive gerald henderson can do with more hunger.

as for tyson, i too had pondered the idea of an extension but realistically, he's too injury prone. we're far better off riding out the contract and offering him a contract AFTER we see how next year goes. if we lose him, we don't lose sleep. By the end of next season Ajinca should definitely be up to the 180 pounds that tyson weighs.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 30, 2010 10:12:03 PM

My thoughts about Augustins future was, Personalities can be fragile and sometimes they need a clean/fresh start too regain that confidence. If things have been too critical!

By all means DJ is a PURE shooter and those are hard to come by!
I have learned you have to shape yourself(as a parent or coach) to different personalities, To connect.
Be compasionate or a little bit of all of it!!!! To Motivate!

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Apr 30, 2010 11:35:08 PM

Sorry some house cleaning.

Flip/Hughes If you watched the Bulls series. I didn't see much difference in the end. As good as defender as Hughes can be, he still has to touch it... and "it is to pretty not to do it(shoot)".

I am excited about Ajinca!
LB has got to be a little more gentle with the young and fragile and "stern" with the Vets. and big Egos! Not so critical everytime off the floor. There is a fine line between critical and teaching.

Posted by: fox has to go!! | Apr 30, 2010 11:47:36 PM

Felton got exposed in the playoffs. Lowball him around 2.5 mill, if he wants more let him walk.

Posted by: IusedtositnearBuzz | May 1, 2010 12:03:19 AM

was the fairweather directed at me on the "other"? not sure.

Posted by: fox has to go!! | May 1, 2010 1:00:26 AM

My first move this summer once Chandler signs on for next year would be trading him for Monta Ellis. Then signing Tyrus long term or with the qualifying offer would be my next priority. I'd then sign and trade Felton to Oklahoma for Maynor and a draft pick. Like Okafor, Raymond has reached his peek and will get abused in playoffs to come as a starter.

Ajinca has the skill set to be a terrific center in the league, but we've got to play him. He can at least be as productive as Tyson. I also believe Diop, if given consistent minute can be a quality back up. Nazr's expiring contract is there and I'd keep Ratliff too.

Posted by: larry | May 1, 2010 11:01:14 AM

okc won't give up maynor OR a draft pick for felton. they're set at pg. I think maynor has far more upside than felton.

And we don't need ellis. I don't think he's a winner. he gets paid to much to be a 6th man and I think that's all he is on a good team a la jamal crawford. Not to mention he's got more years on his contract, we need to ride chandler and mohammed out and take the cap room to resign young'ns that turn out to be studs.

what happens when we commit long term to ellis/wallace/jackson (which sounds horrile btw) and then somebody like augustin or ajinca or thomas or whoever turns out to be a STUD and we can't afford to keep them.

Posted by: charlottean | May 1, 2010 12:16:46 PM

Jameer Nelson in his first playoff series against defending Eastern Conference Champs got HOUSED by Billups.

Chauncey avg 22.3 pts and 7 assists while Jameer avg. 14 pts and 3 assists with half of his points came when they got blown out. In the competitive games he averaged 10 pts per game while giving 22.

The Magic lost the series 4-0. If only Orlando was smart enough to dump him for that, b/c he was always going to hold them back....

When your leading scorer shoots 29% from the floor and 8% from 3 in the 3 games you have a chance to win, you're not going to win very often. The kneejerk "exposed" talk is cute but lacks perspective.

We don't need to be making any drastic moves right now. You know like the Gana Diop for Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins trade that left us with a guy in a suit when we certainly could have use a guy on the wing who could knock down a 3.

Posted by: perspective | May 1, 2010 2:05:01 PM

perspective, i gotta feel where you're coming from.....however....a big part of the reason felton isn't exactly winning anybody over on the extension stand point is that his asking price was said to be in excess of 7 million. jameer's extension from the same standpoint.....has him starting out below 7 and ending up near 8 averaging about 7 per year. you can't say felton deserves or commands that kind of salary. and you can't say that DJ is that far off of felton's ability. with more PT maybe he exceeds felton.

i think if felton takes 5 mil a year MJ takes it but i don't think MJ is going to give him anymore given how low his market value is now with all of the pg's in the league right now. we could pick up one of minnesota's or one of new orleans' or one of miami's for much cheaper and we wouldn't drop off significantly. this is all coming from a carolina fan and a bobcat die hard that was happy on draft night in '05 and still is. it's just a sticky situation. and its due in large part to the diop deal.

Posted by: charlottean | May 1, 2010 5:18:58 PM

perspective, i gotta feel where you're coming from.....however....a big part of the reason felton isn't exactly winning anybody over on the extension stand point is that his asking price was said to be in excess of 7 million. jameer's extension from the same standpoint.....has him starting out below 7 and ending up near 8 averaging about 7 per year. you can't say felton deserves or commands that kind of salary. and you can't say that DJ is that far off of felton's ability. with more PT maybe he exceeds felton.

i think if felton takes 5 mil a year MJ takes it but i don't think MJ is going to give him anymore given how low his market value is now with all of the pg's in the league right now. we could pick up one of minnesota's or one of new orleans' or one of miami's for much cheaper and we wouldn't drop off significantly. this is all coming from a carolina fan and a bobcat die hard that was happy on draft night in '05 and still is. it's just a sticky situation. and its due in large part to the diop deal.

Posted by: charlottean | May 1, 2010 5:19:04 PM

charlottean - assume Brown is at the 2 year minimum value - $854,000. While we are over the cap and have no draft choices, trades and signing free agents up to the mid-cap exception of arounf $5.7mm is permitted.

RobC - trading away Nazr 'for nothing' isn't really permitted. MJ's could trade him to a team that is under the salary cap in return for as little as a 2nd round draft choice, but it has to be for SOMETHING. If the other team is over the cap, we'd have to trade fairly like salaries.

assume the following teams have salary cap room on July 1: New Jersey Nets, Miami Heat, Washington Wizards, Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves. Everyone else enters the summer over the cap (or with minimal cap space).

Posted by: bobfan1 | May 1, 2010 10:03:54 PM

charlottean, he's under contract at the minimum, with $736K guaranteed.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 2, 2010 8:04:55 PM

getting rid of giop might be greater than singing LEbron at this point......

Posted by: parker | May 2, 2010 11:42:23 PM

Hey now that we are all dreaming:

Let's trade Stephen Jackson and Nazr Mohammed + 2014 1st Rd Pick for:

Chris Paul and then offer a 4Yrs/$32M deal to John Salmons and resign Flip, Theo, Graham & extend Tyrus. That way we might convince Tyson to Opt Out in exchange for a 4yrs/$28M deal (equals 3yrs/$15.275M extension), he will never get anything better than that, plus he'll be able to play with CP3 again.

New Orlenas will have a much needed scoring SF in Jackson, financial flexibility & and a 1st Rd Pick. Collison will be their PG (everybody's is talking about that).

We'll have a legitimate contender (specially in the East):

PG: C Paul / DJ Augustine
SG: J Salmons / F Murray / G Henderson
SF: G Wallace / S Graham / D Brown
PF: B Diaw / T Thomas / A Ajinca
C: T Chandler / T Ratliff / G Diop

We'll be about $6M over the Luxury Tax, but hey, that Team with Larry Brown in front is a legit contender. Jordan said he's willing to go over the Cap if he beleived he had a legit contender. He'll definetly have a sellout in every game and A LOT MORE SPONSORS, plus All Star recognition. We might even bring the All Star Game to Charlotte in the near future "2013?".

Posted by: RobC | May 3, 2010 10:46:37 AM

yea i asked cause hoopshype didn't have him listed as under contract for the upcoming year but i figured that was just an error. summer league and preseason ball for him and henderson and ajinca should be fun to watch.

Posted by: charlottean | May 3, 2010 12:57:29 PM

oh yea and they definitely shouldn't sign flip murray or larry hughes or anybody like that over the summer.....if they're going to do it...they should wait and see what henderson does the first half of the year and decide if its necessary around the all-star break. get a guy like stackhouse who brings more smarts with the package.

Posted by: charlottean | May 3, 2010 3:55:28 PM

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