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July 12, 2010

Bobcats close to trading Diaw, Chandler, aquiring Calderon

9K6ENTL_bobcatsjump_SP__.JP     The Charlotte Bobcats are close to sending Boris Diaw and possibly Tyson Chandler to the Toronto Raptors in a three-way deal including the Phoenix Suns that would acquire point guard Jose Calderon and at least one other player, a source from one of the three teams involved confirmed.

    Acquiring Calderon would address the gaping hole at point guard after Raymond Felton agreed to terms with the New York Knicks. Diaw, a power forward, becomes expendable since the Bobcats committed to a five-year, $40 million deal with Tyrus Thomas. Chandler, a center, is an expiring contract worth about $12 million this season.

Posted by Observer Sports on July 12, 2010 at 12:16 PM | Permalink

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I'm a huge Felton fan, but Calderon could be a nice upgrade at the point.

Posted by: Art of the Fan | Jul 12, 2010 12:26:15 PM

calderon is the furthest thing from the answer. jesus that's horrible. i like calderon a lot but he's nowhere near a larry brown pg and i'm not convinced he's better than augustin. that's cashing in a lot of potential chips for jose calderon. why would we do that. that's just horrible logic. where is the upgrade in that deal? give up future cap space for a guy that makes 10 million a year for the next 3? in effing credible. this is all your fault rick. i don't know why but i'm convinced it is.

Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 12:30:20 PM

Dwayne Jones a 6-10 PF would also come to the Bobcats per ESPN..We would get a better PG then we have ever had and drop some players taking up lots of money..Lets hope this gets done!

Posted by: BigWyche16 | Jul 12, 2010 12:33:23 PM

Rick, I'm with charlottean here. How do the salaries work to send Diaw AND Chandler? That's over $20MM? Why would we sacrifice Chandler's expiring deal for this? And isn't time to just turn the keys over to DJ for a year and see if he can do it? We gave Felton 4 years before we figured him out.

If this were another franchise, I'd be stunned, but it's the Bobcats so it kind of fits. They would do something like this...

I'm saying if Chandler goes, there has to be another significant chip coming back in addition to Calderon. We've been sniffing around Amundson, is he the other piece?

Posted by: BobsRealist | Jul 12, 2010 12:36:27 PM

Not a bad trade if we can get more depth at PG, and clear some cap space.

Posted by: walt | Jul 12, 2010 12:36:47 PM

Still waiting on the signing of Kwame Brown by MJ...

Posted by: BIG_MAC | Jul 12, 2010 12:37:27 PM

The one thing that really puzzles me about this deal is giving up the expiring contract of Chandler. If you're going to give up that much cap room, you had better be getting a near-All Star for it, and Calderon isn't. However, he's a hell of a lot better than TJ Ford. And DJ Augustin.

Posted by: J | Jul 12, 2010 12:37:27 PM

I hope Calderon likes hillbillies.

Posted by: Matt | Jul 12, 2010 12:37:37 PM

I'm OK with losing Chandler too. He was injury prone, and had one of the worst back-to-backet games I've ever seen in a center.

Posted by: walt | Jul 12, 2010 12:38:57 PM

This is a good deal, since it addresses multiple areas (i.e. the point guard situation, logjam at the center position, and getting Thomas into the starting lineup, since he is being paid like a starter.

Calderon is, at best, only a slight upgrade over Felton. I am not sure he could guard Nelson, Paul or Williams any better than Felton.

Posted by: Amarque | Jul 12, 2010 12:40:57 PM

I love It!!! Calderon is a big upgrade at the pg position and he can shoot!!!
Rick, How does this affect us this year regarding salary as well as the future?

Posted by: Tony Belk | Jul 12, 2010 12:41:40 PM

Thanks for the scoop. This is excellent! Like Felton, Calderon plays with passion. However, he's much better at running an offense. Plus, he's a 40% 3-pt shooter. He's definitely a Larry Brown type player.

And, our bench just got better since DJ will be on it (instead of a starter).

It's tough losing Chandler, but he was never consistently healthy, so the loss doesn't hurt so bad.

As far as money goes, it's almost like trading Chandler's current year money for the extra year on Calderon's contract vs. Diaw (3 years on Calderon's deal vs. 2 years on Diaw's).

I do think we need one more shooter though. A backup 2/3. Any ideas? Also, does anyone know anything about Dwayne Jones? Can he make the rotation.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 12:41:55 PM

I think the deal works money-wise because Toronto has a trade exception, acquired when they lost Chris Bosh.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 12:43:51 PM

It would be pretty nice if this freed up cap room would eventually land us Luis Scola. Otherwise we're looking pretty thing in the front court.

Posted by: john | Jul 12, 2010 12:43:52 PM

Chandler is awful, thank the lord his 7'1 body will no longer take up space and not grab rebounds for the Cats anymore!

Posted by: mike311 | Jul 12, 2010 12:46:38 PM

Hardly a "scoop". ESPN had this info three hours ago.

Posted by: nba fan | Jul 12, 2010 12:48:40 PM

This is a great move, if it works!

More or less trade Diaw's salary for Calderon's, fill our need at PG (whoever said Calderon is not a LB PG, or a better PG than Augustin, is nuts!), get rid of Chandler's salary in exchange for Toronto's trade exception (which would allow us to shop for another big man this offseason), and add a complementary bench big (D. Jones) on the cheap.

What's not to like?

Posted by: Bobcats Booster | Jul 12, 2010 12:50:45 PM

if this deal isnt for calderon AND toronto's trade exception, then we just got had...

Posted by: tmack652 | Jul 12, 2010 12:52:55 PM

BobsRealist - The Raptors would be unloading Turk (9.8M) and also have a trade exception in the range of 10-15M. Would love Amundson.

Calderon is an upgrade over Felton for sure. Given how studly SJax and G-Force are on defense I am fine having Calderon at point, he can distribute way better than raymond and is a much better outside shooter.

Posted by: YTNC | Jul 12, 2010 12:55:46 PM

Huge upgrade? Raymond averaged 2 more points a game had more steals and rebounds and had .03 less assists? And Had No top 25 NBA players on his team like Bosh.......

Posted by: Robert | Jul 12, 2010 12:57:27 PM

I miss mugsy!!!!

Posted by: Matt | Jul 12, 2010 12:57:48 PM

As for the other poster saying that we should get a good player in return for Chandler, the current year cap money this transaction would create could be applied to any of the remaining free agents (Scola, Andmundson, Matt Barnes, etc). Also, I think we should re-sign Ratliff to provide depth at center without Chandler.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 1:00:37 PM

Robert,

Look at the minutes per game. Calderon put up his numbers in 6 less MPG (26.7) than Felton (33)...

Posted by: Bobcats Booster | Jul 12, 2010 1:01:58 PM

The trade exception (14.5 acquired for Bosh) is not included...that stays with the Raptors according to Doug Smith:

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/

League sources could not confirm the final pieces Monday morning but the Raptors will not have to touch the $14.5 million trade exception acquired last week in the Chris Bosh sign-and-trade transaction.

Thx from a Raps fan

Posted by: Chris | Jul 12, 2010 1:02:09 PM

not sure about this trade for Calderon. He was averaging 20 minutes per game for Toronto. If he was living up to his 8m salary, he would'nt have been sitting on the bench. He is better than what we have currently at the point but we are taking another huge salary gamble on a guy that isn't producing at a level that meets his pay.

Posted by: Matt | Jul 12, 2010 1:04:00 PM

Calderon is an upgrade at the point...AND we might be dumping Chandler.....yes please!

Posted by: Greg S | Jul 12, 2010 1:04:00 PM

From YESTERDAY:

"Yesterday the Raptors shipped off Hedo Turkoglu to Phoenix and got Leandro Barbosa in return and have a deal that's likely to drop today which will return Boris Diaw for Jose Calderon and Tyson Chandler for the trade exception the team obtained from Miami in the Bosh sign-and-trade deal."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16779#ixzz0tT8rFEiW

Posted by: Phil Dees | Jul 12, 2010 1:04:29 PM

It's an upgrade over Felton because Felton ISN'T HERE ANYMORE... It is what it is and Calderone is MUCH better than DJ. As for cap room, it's a little scary but no more so than Thomas's contract on the bench.

I say go for it.

Posted by: Bird | Jul 12, 2010 1:07:03 PM

again the trade exception is not included.....which is a good thing for TO...we also picked up some of the exception money from Phoneix that they received in the Amare deal.......Bobcats are a joke

Posted by: Chris | Jul 12, 2010 1:10:30 PM

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/07/trade-diaw-chandler-to-toronto-for-calderon/

Posted by: Phil Dees | Jul 12, 2010 1:11:35 PM

Didn't we pick up and drop Jones last season? Isn't versatility a valuable asset on this LB team? I get it that it is a salery dump-but Diaw, ,who has played PG in this league for ATL, is a great player and we are giving him up for nothing. ZUT ALORS!!

Posted by: HPCatFan | Jul 12, 2010 1:13:13 PM

PG - Calderon / Augustin
SG - Jackson / Henderson
SF - Wallace / Graham
PF - Thomas / Jones
C - Mohammed / Diop

Not sure this lineup will be any better than last year's (or even as good as last year's), though I do think that the starting PG and PF positions have been upgraded - even if only slightly. It will be interesting to see if this three-team trade does, in fact, happen, as well as what other moves might follow for the Bobcats.

Posted by: The A-Train | Jul 12, 2010 1:17:13 PM

I just don't understand. I've been preaching for months that the Warriors wanted to get rid of Randolph, Turiaf and Ellis for almost nothing. Now the Knicks have AR and Ronnie. Monta Ellis is an all- star caliber player (24 year old)that the bobcats could desparately use to put points on the board. He is a much better defender than Calderon and Larry Brown would simple make him a much better overall pg.

Posted by: The Great Prognosticator | Jul 12, 2010 1:17:42 PM

by shipping Diaw and Chandler the Bobcats reduce payroll by 21 million. They take 8.5 million back in the forms of Calderon and Jones. So we have a net benefit of 12.5 million. Maybe another trade in the near future???

Posted by: Matt | Jul 12, 2010 1:18:54 PM

OK, so if we didn't get a trade exception from Toronto or from Toronto via Phoenix (none of the above is conclusively clear), then there's another player coming back to us. I'm sure we'll hear by the end of the day. The good news is that if it's coming from Toronto then it's not a long-term deal (greater than 2 years), since they don't have any long-term deals left on their roster.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 1:20:18 PM

Best trade ever... I hope it goes through, Diaw was a cancer with his half a$$ effort on the court and Chandler just didn't fit into the system.

Dumping those contracts is a win no matter who we pick up. Making room for CP3.

Posted by: BMOE | Jul 12, 2010 1:22:21 PM

Thank YOU Charlotte for taking such a big weight from our shoulders. I'm talking about Calderon:) People who are now happy with this deal, will soon cry. MARK MY WORDS. P.S.-Raptors GM B.Colangelo pulled amazing trade. Kudos to him!

Posted by: Bakas | Jul 12, 2010 1:23:20 PM

I know Chandler was hurt for a lot of the year, but he played pretty well at the end of the year of the bench. He also did a lot of things that don't show up in the box score. He's not the best or healthiest, but giving up a legitimate 7-footer (whom the cats got by trading Okafor) for only cap space doesn't seem like a great deal without more.

Posted by: PTR | Jul 12, 2010 1:27:45 PM

As much as i was a fan of Felton.Calderon is a better shooter then Felton was

Posted by: jake smith | Jul 12, 2010 1:31:31 PM

if we're not saving any money and getting locked for the next 3 years, why would we do this? i don't think dj would be bad for a year and diaw coming off the bench, i think that's how likes it...not too much pressure. and then we can try to upgrade when chris paul becomes available. calderon is good, but is he really that much more of an upgrade over felton? but keeping felton would not give us the opportunity to dump chandler and diaw...i think if monta would be the best of the lot, if he is available.

Posted by: bunkombe | Jul 12, 2010 1:32:46 PM

Most people here in Toronto like the deal. Charlotte fans will like Calderon: one of the most unselfish players I've seen, a great passer and superb shooter (at least 95% FT every year), but you have to give up something to get something. The Raptors don't give up the TPE (as a matter of fact, they get a small one from Phoenix). Losing Bosh hurts, but this is a step in the right direction. The Raptors are well-positioned: an expiring contract, 2 1st-round picks and a $14 mil trade exception. The Bobcats get some energy and shooting. Looks good both ways.

Posted by: Doug in Toronto | Jul 12, 2010 1:33:31 PM

I think we're trying to get Al Jefferson

Posted by: cATS fAN | Jul 12, 2010 1:37:51 PM

I think we're trying to get Al Jefferson

Posted by: cATS fAN | Jul 12, 2010 1:38:09 PM

Well, maybe a the report from NBC Sports is tru that the Bobcats will make an offer to Luis Scola and then we can sign a Center like "Brad Miller" for the MLE. Then this will look good.

Calderon/DJ
Jackson/Henderson
Wallace/Brown
Scola/Thomas
Miller/Nazr

Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 1:38:45 PM

why would we sign scola to put thomas back on the bench, i think we need an legitimate start Center more than scola. brad miller would be a good pickup to have on the bench.

Posted by: bunkombe | Jul 12, 2010 1:42:48 PM

as a raptor fan since their opening season there have been few that have worn the raptor jersey that played with the intensity of jose... regardless of his speed on defence or declining numbers last year he was always a class act that gave everything he had night in and night out...enjoy one of my favorite all time raptors next season bobcat fans...and for the doubters...it won't take long for jose to win you over...all the best jose, and thanks for the memories...

Posted by: sad raptor fan | Jul 12, 2010 1:44:21 PM

@Cats_Fan "best trade ever" ??? Jose Calderon is one of the worst defending PG in the league! You WILL BE SORRY that this trade happened! I can see that some of the guys knows little bit about b-ball... and they ARE concerned seeing this trade going through.

Posted by: Janger | Jul 12, 2010 1:46:54 PM

Finally, a true point guard!

Posted by: Zach | Jul 12, 2010 1:50:57 PM

what is wrong with bobcat fans...Toronto is NOT giving up their trade exception from the bosh trade with miami for tyson chandler. NOT HAPPENING.

Posted by: JJ | Jul 12, 2010 1:50:57 PM

I like this trade. Calderon is definitely a better shooter than Felton. If there's a way to more Chandler, you do it.

Posted by: Will | Jul 12, 2010 1:51:33 PM

Janger, while Calderon is one of the worst defending point guards in the league, he is also a good shooter and a good pass first point guard, something we did not have with Raymond Felton, Calderon will make this team better offensively and lets be honest, there are a lot of points guards that can D up very well. While it is a concern, in my estimation Charlotte is a far better defensive team then Toronto is, who was one of the worse in the league, and by playing here Calderons defensive problems will be masked or helped by that of playing next to Captain Jack and Gerald Wallace.

Posted by: Gary | Jul 12, 2010 1:55:28 PM

To all the Charlotte fans talking about how great it is to get rid of Chandler's contract, you do not understand the NBA salary cap. An expiring contract is an asset in the NBA no matter how bad the player is. This is a great deal for TO because it rids us of two terrible contracts as we go into rebuilding mode. This trade is so good it almost makes up for overpaying Amir Johnson....almost.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 12, 2010 1:56:22 PM

To the people saying Felton is better than this guy, Felton has a much worse turnover average than this guy, and thats last year and overall carrer wise. And that's why Felton is gone.

Posted by: John | Jul 12, 2010 2:00:42 PM

Great move MJ!!! IMHO, big upgrade and free up salary cap. Now, if we can only get rid of Diop worthless self! I didn't like him when he was playing for Dallas. Please, trade him and resign Theo and keep Nazr. If you have to, do uneven/unfair trade as long as we get rid of that ridiculous contract!!!!!

Posted by: NC__Vet | Jul 12, 2010 2:02:11 PM

If we've learned anything about the bobcats, its that they make trades that are good at that respective time. This move is being looked at way too deep. Its simple. This was a salary-dumping move. You save from not signing Felton, and now you gain 12 mil in annual salary to work with. Whoever posted that Diaw is a great player has neither watched a Bobcats game nor Diaw throughout his career. He's good at a new place for a year, then becomes complacent and lazy. For every fantastic pass he makes, he makes a foolish one, this includes passing on wide open shots when the shot clock is at 1. Most importantly, he lacks aggression, which is the staple of this team, which is why we locked up Thomas, a more conventional PF who can better defend and plays hard. Id rather have a player that is too emotional than one that that lacks any.

People need to understand, Jose Calderon is not being brought in as the permanent solution. Its to give the Bobcats cards and money to play with. The landscape of the entire league has shifted in last 2 weeks and it will continue for the next year. This will make Charlotte a real player in terms of gaining an All-Star(ie Chris Paul) to add to Jack and GW. Overnight, We're in toughest division in the NBA and Jordan wants to win. 'Nuff said. Let things unfold, Bobcat Nation.

Posted by: emuns03 | Jul 12, 2010 2:05:27 PM

This trade also cleared a lot of salary, which is good, but I wish Chandler was not in the deal, we need depth at the 5 now, and I would rather keep Chandler expiring deal for a better trade, but I like Calderon, which seems to be in the minority, but in terms of offense, he is an upgrade over Felton, Calderon was very good two years ago.

Posted by: Gary | Jul 12, 2010 2:06:29 PM

Raps fan here....You're going to love Jose. He gives his heart and soul to the game and is a great teammate. A superb shooter off the pick and roll to go along with a fine 3 pt shot. His assist to turnover ratio is one of the best in the game. Rarely gives up bad turnovers. In 08/09 he was the best free throw shooter in NBA history.

He has trouble guarding quick pg's.

Posted by: Dunk | Jul 12, 2010 2:08:51 PM

Do you people even know what a trade exception means? It doesn't mean we can go sign a free agent with it, it simply mens you can trade for more salary then you give up. For instance, if it is a $10 mil trade exception, we could trade a 2 million dollar a year player with the exception for a $12 million dollar a year player. This trade is not good for our cap room/flexibility, it makes us get rid of Chandler's expiring contract to take on Calderon's horrible contract. I think we could get more using Chandler's Expiring personally.

Posted by: Chaz Waldo | Jul 12, 2010 2:11:17 PM

Calderon's stats look nice. He shoots a good percentage but cant average much more than 10ppg. He has a great AST/TO ratio but this is because he is too tentative (hence TO being last in the league in fast break points). Charlotte has no money to play with now because they were just under the luxury tax and now they are still over the cap. They just picked up TOs garbage for the next 3 years. Another awful trade by MJ

Posted by: Paul | Jul 12, 2010 2:11:47 PM

Thank you Chaz...
I wish people would realize that there is both a salary cap and a luxury tax level in the NBA. Just because Charlotte gets rid of 12M on Chandlers contract, does not mean they can go and spend 12M. Charlotte is still not under the cap!! they just gave away an expiring contract for a bad contract. Never a good move..

Posted by: Paul | Jul 12, 2010 2:14:37 PM

BMOE posted the "best trade ever" comment, not me.

So, I'm confused, can we make this trade without taking on additional salary? How does this work? I thought that was where the trade exception comes into play but not I'm not so sure. Or, stated another way, are we for sure getting another player back to make the salaries work or not?

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 2:18:51 PM

A spectacular move, by Michael Jordan!!

Posted by: Marv Albert | Jul 12, 2010 2:20:26 PM

As for why clearing Chandler's contract (if we in fact do so) is good, you have to consider the following:

1) we were very close to the luxury tax threshold, which would have limited our ability to get role players/fill out the bench

2) This is still a good time to have money. There are a number of serviceable free agents on the market and having space THIS YEAR puts us back in the running for those guys.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 2:20:57 PM

Three down (Felton, Chandler & Diaw) and one more to go--Diop!! I didn't like Diaw when played in PHX years ago. He is too timid and unsure of himself on the court. Felton wasn't worth the money he wanted and the playoff games proved that!! Chandler is 50-50 in my books. You just do not know about him. Will he be the force he was entering the NBA or will he be a shell of that type of player Overall, I like the moves Bobcats!

Posted by: NC__Vet | Jul 12, 2010 2:21:31 PM

so if we combine the bell exemption and the bosh exemption we have roughly 13 mill to play with, is that true. we ought to offer BOTH ridenhour and scola a contract, and then play ty thomas at his best position CENTER

2010-11 nobobcats

PG ridenhour/augustine
SG jackson/henderson
SF wallace/brown
PF scola/diop
C thomas/mohammad


Posted by: brendan | Jul 12, 2010 2:22:30 PM

Calderon is a huge upgrade from Felton. THose trying to compare stats from last year with each other will not work. Calderon was hurt and jarret jack got more PT than him. look at the year before when he was healthy! He also can shoot, felton is to passive on open shots.

Posted by: CPlatovsky | Jul 12, 2010 2:23:43 PM

Charlotte will get another player. Toronto is losing Turk and Calderon (approx 20 mill + one other player) and taking back Diaw, Barbosa and Chandler (approx 28 mill). Phoenix gets Turk using their trade exception so they can take his 10 mill even though they are over the cap. The player Toronto gives Charlotte will have to take care of the difference between what toronto gives (20 mill) and gets (28 mill) plus or minus 15% i believe, as per league rules..

Posted by: Paul | Jul 12, 2010 2:24:20 PM

we now have a glaring hole at the center postion but if as bobcats fans we dont trust rod higgins and mj and larry something is wrong with us. all three of those guys want to win. they know something we dont rod higgins put together a team that beat the number one seed dallas mavericks the golden state warriors. larry beat shaq and kobe in the finals with a bunch of players that bought into his system. mj nuff said trust these guys they will be moving pieces to either get more pieces or to make a move in free agency. we gotta have patience. i like jose and he can shoot and now we have 12 mill to play with. tyson couldnt catch a cold if it hit him in his hands.good luck tyson in toronto where the weather is colder and catching passes will be harder. boris had to see you go cause you had glimses of being a good player but you never were consistent. lets go cats BOBCATS NATION RISE UP

Posted by: reggie | Jul 12, 2010 2:26:13 PM

Paul -

Can't we use the mid-level exception now?

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Jul 12, 2010 2:26:43 PM

The stat everybody seems to be missing is Jose's turnover to assist ratio is nearly twice as good as Raymonds. That is what makes him a Larry Brown type point guard. Larry loves guys who don't turn the ball over.

Posted by: Jerry Leonard | Jul 12, 2010 2:30:01 PM

No "glaring hole" at center. 'Cats made the Playoffs last season with a combination of Nazr Mohammed and Theo Ratliff starting most of the season.

Posted by: ASChin | Jul 12, 2010 2:33:18 PM

Dwayne Jones won't cut it backing up Thomas. Since I am a Bobcats fan, if anyone remembered, we HAD Dwayne Jones before. We picked him up via FA and it did not work out. We definitely need someone else to fill the void at backup PF.

I like Calderon but he is more injury prone than felton, from what it looks like, I kinda have a feeling that we might sign Sherron Collins as our 3rd PG that Larry Brown always likes for the minimum.

Posted by: Ro_Bobcats | Jul 12, 2010 2:33:21 PM

Reggie Evans

Posted by: Phil Dees | Jul 12, 2010 2:34:14 PM

Congrats guys, you have a real PG. He is a nice distributor and creator, and he developed a nice jumpshot over the last few years.

However, he can't guard any PG.

That is the ugly truth. I am spanish, and IMO he is a good basketball player, very good indeed, but his D is almost non-existant. So if you see the opposite PG on fire...

Posted by: Realistic Calde Fan | Jul 12, 2010 2:34:14 PM

mid level is available to all teams that went into the free agent period over the cap, so yes charlotte should stll have that. Here is a fairly recent article on your cap situation though i believe it predates the resigning of tyrus thomas and the loss of felton so take that into account

http://www.nbadraft.net/state-cap-charlotte-bobcats-0

Posted by: Paul | Jul 12, 2010 2:34:14 PM

Reggie Evens is the other player involved in the deal

Posted by: Chris | Jul 12, 2010 2:34:55 PM

This is a solid move for the 'Cats. Hope Larry Brown signed off on it because Calderon (while he's somewhat defensively deficient) takes care of the ball and makes open shots – two things Raymond wasn't able to do in his time here consistently.

Posted by: ASChin | Jul 12, 2010 2:35:00 PM

http://espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1828

Posted by: Phil Dees | Jul 12, 2010 2:38:24 PM

Hey guys, raptors fan here..


jose calderon - cant get a better team player than him....cares about winning....makes winning plays all the time....he CARES....and if you have a good defensive system, jose will survive..... class act jose calderon....

Posted by: Aditya | Jul 12, 2010 2:41:01 PM

dumb. as soon as we get close to having cap room and decent player salaries we feel the need to trade our space for an average PG with 3 years left on a rediculous contract. we could do much better by waiting until near the trade deadline when desperate teams will be shelling out serious players for cap space (aka Tyson Chandler). I hate this unless somehow we can unload Diop as well as Chandler.

Posted by: Chris | Jul 12, 2010 2:44:34 PM

Evans has a $5MM expiring contract. Nazr has a $6.8MM expiring contract. Ajunica, Henderson and Augustin have expiring rookie contracts. The Cats have preserved plenty of flexibility to make moves.

Posted by: jack hoff | Jul 12, 2010 2:53:20 PM

I understand the expiring contract and how crucial it is to have. But at the same time, this point in the season is the highest value that Tyson Chandler will go for and Bobcats see that. Past history supports this thought. His value has diminised since his last year in New Orleans. He chose not to opt cause he realized he would not get any money anywhere else. The Bobcats realize the value of the expiring contract, but dont want to lose him for nothing at season's end, especially if he has a similar year like last.

Posted by: emuns03 | Jul 12, 2010 2:53:44 PM

Hey everyone,

This trade is basically Calderon ($9.5M for 3Yrs) to the Bobcats and Diaw ($9M for 2Yrs) to Toronto. The fact that Toronto is taking Chandler, is actually a good thing. The bobcats are not giving up anything other than 1 more season from Chandler, this is the equivalent of Chandler opting-out of his contract (eventhough it might be a little too late, unless a bigger deal is on the table).

Also, Calderon's defense might be below average, but he is not horrible. If anyone remember, he destroyed Felton everytime they played. He is an upgrade on bothe Felton and Diaw, he can shoot and he can truly run a team, plus is a pass 1st guy.
Also, the Bobcats still have Raja's $3M trade exception to use in a trade, plus the Mid Level Exception.

Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 2:54:28 PM

According to radio reports here in T.O.
Its Reggie Evans ( 1 year $5.08 million)as the 2nd Raptor going to Charlotte.
Evans is a banger and tough guy coming off an injury plagued season. Calderon is a pretty good pure PG with a very good shot. But after his injuries he has lost that ability to drive to the hoop.
Hope the trade gives new life to all parties involved.

Posted by: cRaptors Fan | Jul 12, 2010 2:55:27 PM

Not sure Calderon is the type of defender Larry B. wants. But for sure he'll like his attitude in offense. He's a pass-first, low-turnovers type of PG. I think Brown will love this. Also, he's a great guy. Charlotte fans and players will love him. You don't have to look too much of his last year. He paid too much his injury. He'll make his teammates better, and he doesn't require to shoot too much to be happy.

Posted by: Freddy | Jul 12, 2010 2:57:23 PM

I say season's end because even with an expiring, i dont think most teams will want Chandler, even for half a season. I truly believe his value has diminshed that much, or he would have chosen to opt out like he originally planned. In terms of other teams salary-dumping, a lot of teams have spent this offseason doing that damage control, mostly to get ready for this current free agnecy. Now, if tysons contract had expired this year and we had that our disposal for this past year's deadline, things would be played differently.

Posted by: emuns03 | Jul 12, 2010 3:00:31 PM

How about traidng Nazr & Ajinca ($8.3M in expiring contracts) and Raja's $3M Trade exception, for Al Jefferson. Then offer the MLE to Brad Miller, and sign Flip ($2M/1yr)and Graham & Ratliff to minimum delas. The team would still be under the Luxury Cap and it will be highly competitive. Plus, Henderson and Brown seem ready to contribute off the bench this season.

Calderon/DJ
Jackson/Henderson/Flip
Wallace/Graham
Thomas/Brown/McGuire
Jefferson/Miller/Ratliff/Diop

Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 3:02:29 PM

MJ got caught up in Spain's win yesterday and decided he needed a winner. Actually, Calderon is a great pick up if money is not part of the equation. Great guy, works hard, nice playmaking skills, can get to the hole on occasion, just don't expect much defence

Posted by: dm | Jul 12, 2010 3:24:57 PM

I hope it is true that Toronto has a trade exception and we don't have to take back the nearly 20 mil in salary we would be giving up. If all that is true its an excellent deal although Calderon is over paid at 10 mil per year.

Posted by: BURNTICE | Jul 12, 2010 3:29:28 PM

Know you guys made the playoffs last year, but the east has become much deeper. Jordan knows you build through the draft. Harrison Barnes or Perry Jones would be a great building block in next years draft.

Posted by: Yanni c | Jul 12, 2010 3:31:05 PM

so if PF reggie evans is the other player involved, its still a head scratcher unless this is yet another puzzel piece for an impact player like chris paul or al jefferson. higgins adds players with years on the contract because its hard to get players here otherwise.

right now:
PG calderon/augustine
SG jackson/henderson
SF wallace/ brown
PF thomas/evans
C mohammad/diop

I would go for a radical change if you ask me, in light of the severe upgrade in the division. the hornets in the past brought back kendall gill after shipping him out, so dont discount the return of okafor if it brought paul here with him. send jackson, diop,ajinca and calderon to new orleans for paul and oakfor.

then you have a real upgrade:
PG paul/augustine
SG s.graham/henderson
SF wallace/d.brown
PF thomas/evans
C oakfor/mohammad


Posted by: brendan | Jul 12, 2010 3:41:16 PM

But he is not a Tarheel, probably doesn't even know where Orange County is. Bad choice!

Posted by: Deano Smith | Jul 12, 2010 3:42:22 PM

That trade is not bad, Calderon can learn to be an average defender (at least) under Larry Brown. Felton was not a good defender before Larry Brown came to town.

Now, let's hope they can make another trade, how about: Nazr and Ajinca ($8.3M expiring contract), plus Raja's $3M exception for Chris Kaman or Al Jefferson. I would prefer Kris Kaman, then offer the MLE/2Yrs to Brad Miller and sign Flip and Graham again. Maybe add Theo ratliff in the mix too.

Calderon/DJ
Jackson/Henderson/Flip
Wallace/Brown/Graham
Thomas/Evans/McGuire
Kaman/Miller/Theo/Diop

Now we are talking!!!

Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 3:47:52 PM

Great player and a super nice guy. All of us in Europe love Jose. Maybe Charlotte can get Garbajosa back over there, too?

Posted by: james | Jul 12, 2010 3:49:30 PM

Toronto has a huge trade exception from the Bosh to Miami sign-and-trade (they only took back future picks). The contracts we take back don't need to be close to what we give. Overall, a good move from Jordan's standpoint b/c we can sign use the MLE without going over the luxury tax. Unforunately, I doubt we are able to get Jefferson from Minny now but I am sure we already offered (and they declined) a Chandler for Jefferson swap.

Posted by: cole | Jul 12, 2010 3:51:56 PM

@YTNC

He wasn't there starter you stupid shit

Posted by: jb22 | Jul 12, 2010 3:59:44 PM

Calderon is garbage, he is horrible under pressure and has worse defense than a prep player. I saw a stat once where it was saying that every point guard calderon plays against elevates to that of Steve Nash. Good riddance to bad garbage.

Posted by: BIG D | Jul 12, 2010 4:01:53 PM

Whats the chance we sign Allen Iverson this year?

Posted by: Tyler | Jul 12, 2010 4:03:18 PM

Heck,

Let’s add the Clippers into this trade. Send Calderon to the Clippers, with Nazr, Ajinca and Raja’s $3M Exception and get Kris Kaman and Baron Davis. That would save both the Clippers and Toronto a ton of money and the Bobcats become a great team, adding an former and current All-Star, average defenders that can score, rebound, assist and run a team. Then sign, Flip, Graham and Theo Ratliff.

Davis/DJ
Jackson/Henderson/Flip
Wallace/Brown/Graham
Thomas/Evans/McGuire
Kaman/Theo/Diop

Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 4:05:47 PM

Is this really a good deal????? Just curious

Posted by: G-Money | Jul 12, 2010 4:09:16 PM

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