July 27, 2010
Looks like center-by-committee
Phoenix Suns big man Louis Amundson told the Arizona Republic's Paul Coro the Charlotte Bobcats are among teams interested in signing him. Amundson said Golden State and Toronto are also interested and it's unlikely the Suns will bring him back.
That seemingly confirms two things: That it's likely, if not inevitable, the Bobcats will waive Erick Dampier (rather than trade him) to avoid a $13 million salary. And the Bobcats will play center-by-committee, with Nazr Mohammed, Gana Diop and one other big man sharing the minutes pretty freely.
Posted by Observer Sports on July 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM | Permalink
easily the ugliest and most alien looking guy in the nba right now. plays hard, plays fearless, lacks talent.
this move would certify that we traded tyson chandler, ajinca, and future cap room for louis admunson, matt carroll, najera, livingston. great. a lot of a little instead of a little of a lot. in a game where 5 guys play at the same time. genius.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 27, 2010 11:10:41 AM
That is so un-impressive
Posted by: Matt | Jul 27, 2010 11:13:10 AM
to me it would've been better to have Chandler and Diaw as a backup (PF/C) and find another guy to be the 3rd C/PF.
This team while week at PG was better than the one now
Posted by: Matt | Jul 27, 2010 11:55:09 AM
This guys defines the term "water downed NBA". Yawn. The Bobcats could not be more boring or irrelevent right now.
Posted by: Brian | Jul 27, 2010 12:31:34 PM
How do you know it's likely the Bobcats will waive not trade Eric before the season starts? You don't seem to know any inside information on the team, so how do you know? You got this source from the Phoenix paper. You are truly the worst! You just wasted 80 words and 2 minutes of my life. I'm done with this paper! Bobcats.com
Posted by: bobcatsfan | Jul 27, 2010 12:38:22 PM
he knows its unlikely because i told him so after dallas failed to move him so they managed to talk our "braintrust" into taking him, carroll AND najera and using a trade exception to do so. only now are we starting to catch up and realize how idiotic that move really was.
we can't afford to trade him, we're already right under the tax line. we trade him and we're 10 million over the tax.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 27, 2010 12:47:09 PM
You know Amundson isn't a center--or anything close to it--right, Rick?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 27, 2010 1:25:46 PM
it's him or kwame brown. if he signs with us, he's officially an nba center. he'll join the likes of primoz brezec and ryan hollins and melvin ely in the history books as one of the most prestigious positions in the nba (bobcats' center)
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 27, 2010 2:46:41 PM
Any good Bobcat blogs out there? The coverage on this site SUUUUUUUCKS.
queencityhoops is OK...too much about stats and numbers though.
bobcatsplanet is good sometimes, but they don't update regularly it seems.
If I start a semi serious/comedic/analytical type of blog about the Bobcats, would you guys be interested? I'll be honest and say I probably have more insider info than this sports page seems to have! :)
Posted by: Smitty | Jul 27, 2010 2:53:22 PM
I never called him a center. But he would take up a spot in the big-man mix, leaving room for little else.
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Jul 27, 2010 3:25:27 PM
bobcatsbaseline.com is pretty good
Posted by: blog | Jul 27, 2010 3:27:20 PM
Are they still trying to move Diaw?
Posted by: hrmmm | Jul 27, 2010 3:29:26 PM
If we are stuck with Diop then we should give him a chance. He is supposed to be a pretty good defensive and rebounding center. A guy named Russell won 11 titles while primarily focusing on rebounding an defense. Okay, he ain't no Russell but everyone doubted Nazr until he was given a chance and we would still be singing his praises had he not gotten hurt.
Posted by: Murrell | Jul 27, 2010 3:49:20 PM
nazr wasn't getting a chance because prior to last year, he had been horrible since getting his big contract.
and rick i'm assuming signing admunsen is supposed to make some kind of sense while we're still paying najera, thomas, diaw, brown, and mcguire. and gerald wallace if you want to throw his name into the 4 hat.
WHO IS MANNING THE SHIP?! stop david kahning around and make a real move already.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 27, 2010 3:57:36 PM
Amundson would be a good pickup, but how about Earl Barron who played for the knicks last year and as a started averaged 12pts 11 reb, why cant the bobcats management notice this or even Anthony Tolliver of Golden State! Jordan what are yall doin???
Posted by: bbonds | Jul 27, 2010 6:09:20 PM
that's what I don't understand. what makes dominic mcguire better than alexis ajinca. why take mcguire over a tolliver, an earl barron, a pops mensa bonsu, matt gieger, nathan jawai, dikembe mutumbo, tyler zeller, i mean we just missed out on josh powell, theo ratliff, kurt thomas, juwon howard, shavlick randolph and all the other scrub/aged bigs in the league and now we're picking over the guys who have no business in the league to begin with because our braintrust is busy trying to outdo david kahn with the most idiotic moves ever.
i bet they manage a way to trade dampier for a bad contract and then HAVE to blow the team up in december because jackson is losing it because we're 30 games below .500 after playing 29 games and we're way over the tax for no good reason. watch it happen. i don't want to, but its trainwreck material. and i'm a true fan so i'm somewhat obligated. but jesus this is just unnecessary. we were in such good shape. "it was all good just a (few) week(s) ago"©s.carter.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 27, 2010 11:27:45 PM
@ CHARLOTTEAN. Agree with you 100%! Ratliff played good for us last year and we missed out on him as well as a Kurt Thomas. Amundsen to me would be an okay signing but i still prefer Tolliver or Earl Barron who is still out there!
Posted by: bbonds | Jul 27, 2010 11:41:20 PM
@cherlottean rufus on fire . com is good one of the best
Posted by: Jack | Jul 28, 2010 2:00:24 AM
STUPID MOVE MIKE.....Tyson is playing good right now trying out for coach K ,and we have 2 postions the we lack talent at. I heard that Monta Ellis wonts out at GS, pease make the trade and atleast safe some face.
Posted by: jaybird | Jul 28, 2010 6:47:33 AM
Pahleeze - Tyson is made of glass and just because he's playing well now doesn't mean he'll last 3 weeks once the season starts. History's proven that he can't play a whole season.
Dampier's contract will be traded for an impact player before September, that's why they did it. They're just waiting to see how the Chris Paul drama plays out. Patience, its July!
And I second the rufusonfire.com plug. Good Bobcat stuff on that page.
Posted by: gradyhog | Jul 28, 2010 7:37:34 AM
I third rufusonfire.com. I'm pretty sure we won't see Diaw, Dampier, or Augustin at the start of the season. If it's not Paul and Okafor it's another 1 and 5 from any number of rebuilding teams.
Posted by: El Leche | Jul 28, 2010 7:52:25 AM
I am not excited about the outlook for the 2010-2011 season.
Posted by: steve | Jul 28, 2010 9:07:21 AM
if we trade dampier's contract we're 10 mil over the tax and we aren't getting talent back in any deal right now. there's nothing to be patient for. right now, if they make a move, it's going to be a lateral move at best. their opportunity for a great trade was lost when they gave up chandler which was our best asset, and a trade exception and took back 2 worthless contracts that nobody will take until they are expiring.
stop dreaming. there is no team out there that has anything we want that we have anything they would want. at this point the only team we could ever make a trade with and win would be with minnesota simply because david kahn is the only gm dumber than ours. and they don't have any talent worth trading for at positions that we have needs for. stop dreaming.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 28, 2010 11:19:25 AM
Dear God, I still hope the Cats have something constructive up their sleeves because this offseason has been ugly so far.
The CP3 rumors give you something to dream of, but they still have to be considered a longshot.
To date, all Charlotte has done is lose an above average starting PG, a wasted former first-rounder, and a guy who, if he ever stayed on the court true, was still the best center on the team. We have replaced these guys with essentially nothing, though I am keen to see how the Livingston signing works out.
Meanwhile, it seems like every team out there has upgraded.
As it stands now, LB will have to work miracles just to duplicate last season's team, which I still believe over-achieved somewhat to tell you guys the truth.
For the life of me, I don't understand why we haven't at least filled the team out with some more scoring punch yet. MC's return might provide something, but I still think we need more. Should have looked at Kyle Korver and Mike Miller, and what about Eddie House? How about Tracy McGrady coming off the bench, who would be an upgrade over Larry Hughes. Why not look at a guy like Rudy Fernandez who can drain threes. I hear the Knicks are interested. That team will score in bunches already without him. Bottom line, Charlotte has to do something more. It's getting pretty depressing looking at next year indeed.
Posted by: Ari | Jul 28, 2010 11:27:27 AM
Ellis is 24 and is a scoring threat that can play PG. He makes 11 mill per year and I think Henderson 2mill and Diaw 9 mill should be able to get it done. Curry is the future of GS and we need a good PG in the worse way. I say lets do a trade, some how!
Posted by: jaybird | Jul 28, 2010 12:33:12 PM
@jaybird thats unrealistic. The warriors arent going to give up an potential all star for an unproven rookie in henderson and 2009-2019 buffet allstar Diaw just because the nunmbers match. trade either Jax, who plays the same position as Ellis and is a natural Small forward but cant be here because of wallace. The other option is to trade wallace and move Jax to SF. and have ellis sg. didnt work in GA tho
Posted by: Matt | Jul 28, 2010 12:58:49 PM
i don't really like "win-shares" and obscure stats like that because i think they are over analytical and reaching. but they are good for comparing impact and w/l impact outside of +/- which can be very deceiving for a good player on a bad team or a good player that comes off the bench and mostly plays with the 2nd team.
that being said......monta ellis has 15 career win shares over 5 years and augustin has 8 in his 2 years where he hasn't even been given big minutes at all.
monta ellis is a career 30.9% 3 point shooter. horrible assists/turnover ratios, the only thing ellis gives you over augustin is size.
consistently on here guys rave about these players with other teams who put up points per game because they are the best player on a horrible team. WE DON'T WANT THOSE GUYS. a way better scenario would be look at a guy like a shannon brown who can be had for cheap who has been with a winner and just couldn't get on the floor much between kobe and fisher on a team that won championshipS.
brook lopez won't win a title unless he's a role player on a title team. neither will monta ellis. what's the point then?
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 28, 2010 1:12:43 PM
How come my comments are banned but you let others advertise websites?
Posted by: Brian | Jul 28, 2010 2:29:32 PM
I second BobcatsBaseline.com. They even have a great twitter feed:
@bobcatsbaseline and @BaselineDrE
But don't shoot on Bonnell's blog – he's one of the League's best beat reporters and he hasn't succumbed to the ESPN.com-style "rumor-as-fact" reporting.
RoF and Bobcats Planet do great work too.
Posted by: ASChin | Jul 28, 2010 3:03:16 PM
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