July 10, 2010
Morrow cashes in, thanks to Nets
Sounds like the Nets did something pretty savvy in signing Charlottean Anthony Morrow to a 3-year, $12 million offer sheet. Don't look for the Golden Sate Warriors to match, since they've so painted themselves into a corner to acquire David Lee.
Four million a season is quite a wage, but Morrow has done quite a job, after going undrafted two years ago. He was a revelation in Las Vegas summer league. such a 3-point threat the Warriors couldn't help but retain him. And now he's cashing in big-time.
Posted by Observer Sports on July 10, 2010 at 12:18 AM | Permalink
savvy: something not in the bobcats' vocabulary.
Try words like: knee-jerk, panic, bone-headed, stupid, overpayment
Used in a sentence: The Bobcats made a bone-headed decision when they signed a backup PF for $40 million.
Take the offer sheet picks and rebuild.
Posted by: I used to sit near Buzz | Jul 10, 2010 1:13:21 AM
here's a good take on the situation: http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/07/nets_pass_on_tyrus_thomas_who.html
" The only reason a kinder, gentler, more nurturing Larry Brown got three good months out of him was by saying, “You’re three months away from the end of your NBA career – Chicago wasn’t going to pick up your option, they traded you here for a backup two-guard, and we’re not going to pick up your option either unless you shape up and grow up.”
It worked. The Bobcats even picked up his option.
And then, to keep the Nets at bay, they made him absurdly rich for a third-rate power forward.
Nice investment there, MJ.
We talked to someone in the Bulls organization and asked how this could have happened, and he replied, “First dates can fool you sometimes. But he’s still one of those guys who you’re glad when he leaves.”
Don’t misunderstand: Tyrus is undoubtedly one of the most dazzling athletes the league has.
He’s just not your answer as a stopgap starting 4 – Kris Humphries would be more consistent and less aggravating in that role. "
Posted by: I used to sit near Buzz | Jul 10, 2010 1:30:33 AM
Boris is getting 9 mill per yr and he isnt worth shit ! Of course Tyrus was worth it !
Posted by: Elliot Motaleb | Jul 10, 2010 1:42:49 AM
I'm happy Tyrus was retained. Still like his potential. Felton was a gamer and I'm kind of sorry to see him go (especially to the Knicks), but I think he's kind of reached his ceiling as a player. Solid but he'll never be spectacular.
One thing I don't understand is how the Bobcats haven't taken a look at some shooters as of yet. There were strethces last season where this team couldn't put the ball in the ocean and you need at least one guy that can knock it down from the outside. Why not go after guys like Korver, Morrow, Reddick, Keyon Dooling, Mike Miller and the like. You need those kind of guys to fill out a team. Even with the limited cap room they have left, I would bet Miami fills their roster with these type of players. You can never have enough shooters and sometimes it looks like the Cats don't have any at all. I know LB loves defense, but when you have 3 point shooters on the team, it can cover up for some defensive lapses on any one night.
Posted by: Ari | Jul 10, 2010 5:49:26 AM
What "offer sheet picks?" This isn't the NFL or NHL. You just lose the player.
But yes, Thomas is garbage. Unlike Diaw, he has no ball-handling or passing ability. Just jumping and putbacks.
And finally, Ari, if you had a chance of signing a small deal as a shooter, would you pick Miami and the chance at championships, or Charlotte and the chance of a first round sweep if you're lucky enough to even make the playoffs?
Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 10, 2010 7:25:28 AM
Tyrus Thomas isn't garbage. You're joking, right?
Posted by: Buckley | Jul 10, 2010 9:17:33 AM
Anyone who thinks the Thomas deal was bad is a fool. The kid is 23 with tons of potential. Sometimes people need a change of scenery, and he got it here. Have you ever heard of Amir Johnson? Didn't think so, he got 34 million from TOR. Travis Outlaw? $35 million. Thomas has more talent than both of them combined. He will be starting for this team, if not this year, next year. Was it a little steep? Sure...but losing him for nothing would've been much worse.
Posted by: Bobcat Matt | Jul 10, 2010 10:05:16 AM
First of all, nice source I used to sit near Buzz - its a NJ paper, of course they're going to try and justify why Thomas is a bad player AFTER they didn't get him (even though clearly the team was pretty interested in getting him).
I love the re-signing of Thomas. The dude wants to play here, has talked about getting a fresh start, he's a freak athletically, and showed he has range, especially in that last playoff game when he was killing it with the baseline J's. He's got a ton of potential, and if LB will stick around and help him develop it, he could be a force.
Its unfortunate that it resulted in us being unable to sign Ray Ray, but he bought his ticket out of here last summer when he didn't take our offer. I'm a big fan of Felton, but as other readers pointed out it seemed like he had reached his ceiling.
Posted by: BT | Jul 10, 2010 10:41:52 AM
i'm among the few that thinks thomas is going to be GREAT for us. the guy is 23. 23. we have augustin, henderson, brown and ajinca who are all 22 and thomas is 23. we are one of few teams who have veteran leadership but an entire young core in development. henderson and brown are on their way to being long term starters. if henderson wasn't improving as much as he was, ant morrow going ANYWHERE but home would be devastating. hell i would love to see ant here at the arena. i grew up playing pickup ball with that guy at prez all the time. but how are you going to sign another 2 when you've got a starter SET and a backup was last years top draft pick who looked GREAT in summer league. it would be a disservice to morrow to sign him to let his career rot on the bench. he will elevate his game in NYJ and will probably be starting.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 10, 2010 12:05:50 PM
The Thomas signing was exactly what the Bobcats NEEDED to do. Felton, who I liked and thought he was a dedicated team player, hit his ceiling. Tyrus still has a lot of potential and is only 23. I'll take his shot blocking, rebounding and dunks over Diaw's hestitation and boneheaded moves any day.
Posted by: PantherDave | Jul 10, 2010 12:13:13 PM
the million dolar question for you bloggers or rick, how can we get rid of boris diaw, and how many years he have left on his contract.i can't stand his lack of effort for making 9 million a year..can we sign and trade his butt, i rather have felton over diaw, does anybody agree??
Posted by: tim | Jul 10, 2010 1:31:48 PM
Regarding Boris, you can't sign and trade a guy who is already signed. He has 2 years and 18 million left on his deal. If we can move him strictly for salary cap relief, I'd take it at this point.
Posted by: Bobcat Matt | Jul 10, 2010 1:46:37 PM
Tyrus Thomas may not be backing anybody up. He may be the most athletic true big on our roster and has natural defensive and rebounding abilities way above the ceiling of every other big we have. I am thinking moving diaw and one of our C's expiring contracts for some guard play would be smart.
Posted by: YTNC | Jul 10, 2010 2:08:39 PM
i mean at this point, i think we need to keep boris because of our lack of veteran ball handlers on the roster AND the versatility he can provide. i mean i would imagine at this point that sherron collins is going to get a good long look in training camp but that he won't be signed until after then but even with him that leaves you with a rookie, a starter with 2 years experience and after that boris would be the next best option followed by jackson. not to mention how valuable diaw's contract is going to be in the offseason when we have a little more cap room. we might be able to pick up a major piece for a 9 million expiring when we have a little cap room to take something back that doesn't match.
We are officially in the hardest division in basketball.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 10, 2010 4:23:27 PM
Aside from the first year of the contract, I think Thomas will be worth the money. The Bobcats can't afford to be like the Hornets who began to let their most talented players walk away to other teams. Game 4 of the playoffs last year showed us what Thomas can give us if he gets consistent minutes and plays like he is in a starting role. The sooner Boris Diaw leaves the better. His style of play is not what we need and I wish him luck.
Posted by: UncTarheels23 | Jul 10, 2010 4:30:17 PM
I really like Diaw's skill set and he has been a valuable contributor to the team the past couple years - especially before captain jack came to town. The problem is his inconsistency and a tendency to fade into the background at crucial moments. He's had some marvelous games, and also had games where you wonder if he actually played or not.
I think he could work here if we had a big offensively-skilled center to pair with him. Unfortunately we don't, and so I agree that at this point he would better serve the team by being used as trade bait for a PG.
If we can't trade him, then I'd rather Tyrus start and have Diaw lead the second team off the bench, so he can have the ball in his hands more with Wallace and Jax off the court and use his playmaking abilities.
Posted by: BT | Jul 10, 2010 5:07:34 PM
With Felton gone, what do we do about a new point guard? LB will go nuts if we don't find at least one more capable guard.
Posted by: Ari | Jul 10, 2010 7:57:22 PM
is al jefferson on the trading block, can we get him for a boris diaw trade..make it happen bobcats..i like collins as a backup now..
Posted by: bobcat nation | Jul 10, 2010 9:28:16 PM
I know this is off topic but what happened to Darius Miles? I thought he was on the summer league roster but then I never saw him in box scores. What happened?
Posted by: m | Jul 10, 2010 11:31:45 PM
Miles practiced with the summer team (and continued to participate in shootarounds in Orlando), but didn't play in the games. That was the plan, relative to the activity doctors are allowing for now on his knees.
As a precaution, he was limited to one practice a day and every third day off. But he says he'll be ready to go if Bobcats bring him to training camp
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Jul 11, 2010 4:34:25 PM
i like keepin boris to the end of the year cause that contract goin into next year will be valuable. as far as diop and narz and tyson they will be gone by the trading deadline. someteam will make a trade for them if we dont keep them and make a splash in free agency.valuable players to have because of there large contracts. and cp3 come on home next year.
Posted by: reggie | Jul 11, 2010 8:21:52 PM
Rick, I'm hearing Diaw to the Raptors for Dwayne Jones (acquired from Suns). I've never heard of this guy... Is this a good move for us?
Posted by: flanahan32 | Jul 12, 2010 8:01:11 AM
The report about the Diaw deal to Toronto looks like more of a transaction for cap space than Dwayne Jones. The Raptors have a "trade exception" that should allow them to get Diaw's contract without sending a comparable contract back to Charlotte.
So, the Cats are making this move to get the money to make another move (trade or free agent), or at least be in position to make a move down the line.
Rick, any more info about this Diaw deal?
Posted by: Ballercat | Jul 12, 2010 9:29:02 AM
It's not done yet, but for now it is mostly a salary dump from the reports I've seen. Charlotte gets a huge trade exception and escapes Diaw's contract (two more years, $9 mil apiece). I'm ok with that I think, but we need another PG. I wouldn't be too shocked if this Toronto deal evolves into us taking on one of their PGs (Jack, Calderon) or maybe is followed quickly by another deal with the trade exception (someone cheap or 2nd round pick for TJ Ford?).
Posted by: joshua | Jul 12, 2010 9:35:53 AM
Glad to see you are on top of things per usual with the Diaw trade. What a joke. Do they pay you to do this job?
Posted by: Ray | Jul 12, 2010 9:52:09 AM
Hey, just noticed something. If we dump Diaw's deal for a one year deal or get nothing in return, I think we're looking at like $13-20 mil in cap space next summer (depending on what we do with our 1st round pick, how high the cap is, if we dump some contracts etc.).
Yao Ming, Carmelo Anthony, Tony Parker and Tim Duncan are all free agents next summer, and Joakim Noah, Al Horford, and Aaron Brooks are restricted free agents. Maybe MJ is a genius after all.
Posted by: joshua | Jul 12, 2010 9:56:13 AM
Actually, Duncan is an opt out option. Anyone know if he took that?
Posted by: joshua | Jul 12, 2010 9:57:14 AM
you're asking who is dwayne jones? he's a former bobcat, now returning. he played with delonte west and jameer nelson on those great st. josephs teams a while back.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 10:09:51 AM
The coverage in this paper is shockingly weak. If I were the Bobcats, I'd be pretty ticked off that they're trying to build momentum and support in this town, but that the fans can't get good coverage in the home-town paper. Of course, at least there is only one Bobcats reporter not doing anything instead of the 5 Panthers reporters not doing anything. Great work if you can get it.
Posted by: PTR | Jul 12, 2010 10:13:33 AM
and joshua i don't think they're going to wait and keep the cap room, I expect another move now. I expect this is just another move to get us towards bringing in a big name pg or upgrade the center position. next year we would only have major cap room if we didn't pick up options on augustin, ajinca, henderson and didn't resign derrick brown. otherwise we'll probably have around 10 or 11 mil.
but i would imagine there's no question that they would mtg. the future to win now while brown is still on the bench for what will probably be his last year here but i just hope they don't. the worst thing we could do is give up on (4) 22 year olds to finish 5th or 6th in the east.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 10:16:57 AM
i hate to keep posting but this move is great, but higgins still doesn't get a pass for not bringing in michael beasley.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 10:17:43 AM
Losing Diaw in exchange for a 12th man and cap space seems like a bad deal. Without a strong point guard, his passing and ballhandling will be sorely missed. He seems a lot more valuable than what is proposed in the trade.
Posted by: PTR | Jul 12, 2010 10:17:51 AM
True, Dwayne Jones is a former Bobcats (Larry Brown's 1st season as a Coach in Charlotte). He is more of a defensive big guy, no offense at all. However, this is only a Cost-cutting move. This move puts the Bobcats like $11M under the Luxury Tax and they still have their MLE and Raja's $3M Trade Exception (due in Nov. 2010).
On the other hand, I wonder if Rick Bonell works Pro-Bono or if he actually gets paid. This has been all over ESPN since last night and there is not even a mention of this rumor in the Observer. They actually copied the AP report and didn't talk about Diaw and the Bobcats. Great Job Observer!!!
Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 10:20:14 AM
Apparently Luis Scola is about to get an offer from the Bobcats according to Probasketballtalk. He is a restricted free agent with the Rockets. He might be a pretty good pick-up.
Posted by: PTR | Jul 12, 2010 10:26:18 AM
Perhaps the Bobcats can sign Luke Ridnour and then trade for Al Jefferson.
Posted by: RobC | Jul 12, 2010 10:27:56 AM
Bonnell doesn't report on rumors.
Posted by: Zach | Jul 12, 2010 10:41:10 AM
True, except for all of the ones he did report on. Then again, by the time they were posted they weren't really rumors any more. The deals were already dead or done.
Posted by: PTR | Jul 12, 2010 10:59:36 AM
i'm dying to know if this deal is done or not. It makes things so much more interesting regarding our ability to make a HUGE move via trade. we'll have chandler/mohommed expirings + cap room + young talent + trade exceptions + if i'm not mistaken we have all draft picks except the 1st rounder we sent chicago. interesting to say the least.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2010 11:44:20 AM
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