« Back to Wilmington for camp | Main | Bobcats waiving Erick Dampier »

August 23, 2010

Don't confuse this signing with a do-over

I'm using some vacation time to tend to two elderly parents (thanks, Ron Green Jr., for filling in), but when I heard about the Bobcats signing Kwame Brown, I figured I'd blog in:

Some thoughts:

-- Again this is one more indication the Bobcats will eventually waive Erick Dampier's contract to off-load about $13 million in salary responsibility. Sorry if that ticks some of you off (I know you want Dampier to be a trade chip), and they certainly gave up an asset in Tyson Chandler.

However, it's no surprise. The day Michael Jordan was formally introduced as majority owner he predicted they'd have to make a trade that wouldn't be good basketball-wise, but would have to be done, payroll-management wise. This was that deal.

They haven't waived Dampier yet because he hasn't cost them anything. But barring a miraculous deal that both solves their luxury-tax problems and improves their roster, Dampier seems destined to be waived.

They wouldn't continue to sign complementary free agents unless they intended to dump that big contract. You don't need an economics degree to figure that.

-- Jordan has told various confidantes that one of his frustrations with Kwame Brown was remarkably small hands that limited him offensively inside. Obviously the expectations are a lot lower now. I bet Nazr Mohammed (barring a trade) is the opening-day starter at center.

-- Please don't fancy this as Jordan's effort at rectifying a mistake. Taking Brown No. 1 way back when for the Wizards had little, if anything, to do with signing him as a free agent for a modest salary now.

Brown has become a journeyman. He's a viable defensive big man, so he can supply some of what they lost trading away Chandler. Larry Brown always wants several options inside. I'm confident this is much more about placating Larry Brown (who can't be pleased they traded Chandler for little more than payroll relief) than about any misguided sense Kwame Brown will suddenly become a difference-maker.

Posted by Observer Sports on August 23, 2010 at 08:35 PM | Permalink

Comments

enjoy your time with your parents. Bcats off-season can wait.

Posted by: pete | Aug 23, 2010 9:50:46 PM

Bobcats seem like they can't make up their minds what they want to do next year... do they try and compete for the playoffs again, knowing that they have zero chance of getting beyond the first round now or in the foreseeable future, or do they blow it up and start rebuilding now? Where is the direction in the front office? Where is the leadership?

Posted by: David | Aug 23, 2010 10:51:51 PM

Chandler was so disappointing last year...I expected him to make an impact last season and he did not. Kwame at least does not have any great expectations coming from the fans. We needed another big man and he's big....good enough for me.

Posted by: HPCatFan | Aug 23, 2010 11:41:01 PM

Rick,
Nice thoughts on this. Hope the time with your parents is a blessing both for you and for them.

Posted by: The A-Train | Aug 24, 2010 12:02:38 AM

Why did he do this and not try to pick up Allen Iverson or J.R Smith in a trade. It just seems real stupid to not use Dampier as a trading chip or salary space to sign someone better no offense to Kwame but he is not a superstar or a star like Diaw, Wallace, Jackson, or Tyrus.

Posted by: Vertikle | Aug 24, 2010 1:59:58 AM

Best to your parents, Rick.

As for the Brown signing, doesn't hurt considering for so little. Maybe he'll add a little more than we would expect. He's still just 28. It does look like Dampier is indeed a goner.

As for giving guys another chance, however, I'd still rather of signed Iverson. I know it's been rehashed a million times in terms of the Bobcats adding him, and it looks like it will never happen, but at least he's a guy who can score in bunches on any given night. That would come in handy for a team still lacking in scoring, and how much would he cost at this point. Plus you know if he couldn't make it again with LB, you just cut your losses and waive a minimum salary guy. I know he can be a headache, but you would think he'd be on his best behavior knowing this is indeed his last shot.

Posted by: Ari | Aug 24, 2010 3:55:00 AM

the fact they dumped chandler and took back bad contracts voided the whole argument of "making a bad basketball trade for the sake of business"

it was bad for business too.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 24, 2010 9:49:53 AM

Are the bobcats attempting to copy the Atl Hawks game plan and put a team of versatile 6-7/6-8/6-9 players on the floor to try to outrn and huslte everyone? Any truth to the return of Walter Hermann, the best backup small forward in bobcats history?

Posted by: Eric | Aug 24, 2010 10:26:29 AM

Rick,

Blessings to your parents and your family otherwise.

When will we hear some updates about camp in Wilmington? Is there so tweeting taking place that can be followed? Can you hire Matt Carroll as your surrogate reporter?

I'm fine with the Kwame signing. He'll be everything Chandler was. If Henderson and Brown play a bit more this season, we'll be fine. DJ isn't the complete bottom of PGs. Shaun and Collins will be decent backups. We're not world beaters but a decent team will be on the floor.

Posted by: Altheus | Aug 24, 2010 10:54:49 AM

If no other trades materialize, perhaps it would be wiser to start Kwame and bring Nazr off the bench. I say this because.... we don't have a strong bench and I believe Nazr possesses better offensive skills than Kwame. But it seems like that Nazr can only go for short periods of time. Our bench as it stands right now, is going to need all the points it can muster. Let Kwame start and play defense with our stars scoring the points for the first unit.

Posted by: The Dark Knight | Aug 24, 2010 12:16:07 PM

I like the signing of Brown. Under LB, he will be an effective center. If the Wizards are interested, I would attempt to trade for Areana and Yi Jianlian by sending Diaw, Diop, DJ and Carroll their way. Let's keep our fingers crossed that management still has a few more moves on the horizon.

Posted by: Larry | Aug 24, 2010 2:16:01 PM

Rick, best of wishes to you and your parents.

Most people don't realize that Kwame Brown and Dwight Howard were fairly comparable as high school seniors. I can hardly blame Jordan for not being able to predict the future. Kwame has had some good games (like a 30/19) and I hope he can improve and get consistent. LB may be what he needs. If nothing else, we got a fairly good defensive presence at a low cost.

Posted by: Murrell | Aug 24, 2010 5:59:57 PM

So, according to CBSSports, Dampier is holding out for more money when he resigns. If they can't resign him, he'll be traded, not waived. So the upshot is some improvement to the roster is bound to come at the 1 and 5 spot. In other, news Crash is rated as the defensive twin of Carmelo but the fourth overall SF behind Durantula and Bron(Clevemary's Baby). Jax was eighth(one above J-Rich) on the SG list as well.

On paper, we'll be alright. Not world-beaters but decent. Sixth, Seventh in the east?

Posted by: Altheus | Aug 24, 2010 8:43:52 PM

All the best to you and your parents, good health to you all. Thanks for setting some of these "the sky is falling" folks straight.

Posted by: MajorLeague | Aug 24, 2010 9:04:07 PM

BOBCATS JUST KEEP MAKING ME MAD...Yeah, Yeah, Kwame is not bad. BLAHBLAH, I love the Bobcats, I go to at least 5 to 7 games a year, but I'm afraid, it's going to be around 2 games, or the typical TWC ticketholder, we go see the Lakers,Magic,Heat when they come to town... This is horrible, if Wallace gets hurt like usual, who's going to help Jack. I mean come on people...I hope some of these role players come off the cap next year,,,,any decent team has to have 3 go to players.

Posted by: JC | Aug 25, 2010 1:33:07 AM

The Bobcats blow!!!! And so does Kwame Brown. This team will never be a contender! NEVER.

Posted by: JD | Aug 25, 2010 8:40:12 AM

Don't worry Bobcats fans, MJ has a PLAN!!!! He's just holding serve right now until next year's draft, when he can use their first pick (which will undoubtedly by top 3) to draft the one you've all been waiting for---MARCUS JORDAN!!!!!!

Good Lord what a joke of a franchise.

Posted by: TP | Aug 25, 2010 9:14:17 AM

For what Tyson gave us last year I'd rather have Kwame at 1/10 the cost.

Posted by: apauldds | Aug 25, 2010 10:13:15 AM

Espn.com is reporting in their rumors section that dampier will be traded. Let's hope they acquire a strong asset in return - some talent that a team wants to get rid of to save money.

Posted by: HJ | Aug 25, 2010 10:34:50 AM

Assuming we waive Dampier, prior to making any other moves the total team salary is at $65.7M. Luxury tax is set at $70.3M, leaving $4.6M of wiggle-room.

I'm convinced that there's another deal out there. The $4.6M in flexibility definitely makes that a more interesting proposition.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Aug 25, 2010 12:45:35 PM

4.6 under the tax but over the cap and having already used a big chunk of mid-level exception and having 15 guys on the roster. they might be trying to make another move constantly but how they can do anything beneficial with what we have left at this point is mind blowing.


they should just automatically attach "we can't trade dampier" to the bottom of every post i make. you are an idiot if you don't understand that. if they trade him, we are way over the tax. i'm not saying they won't, i'm saying they can't. if they do we are permanently screwed for somebody like gilbert arenas or monta ellis. then we'll be talking about the seattle supersonics and the zombie bobcats©bill simmons.

we signed kwame brown over developing ajinca. you can't justify that. you can't tell me that ajinca can't produce at the level that kwame has and will over his career. you can't. none of this is justifiable. its just stupid.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 26, 2010 3:49:33 PM

Agreed that Ajinca had a smooth shot, gained weight, could block and move his feet. Developing him would've been wise; for the future.

KD, at Yahoo sports, claims this is proof MJ is desperate for wins now and not later. However, Kwame made a third of his free throws last year. He isn't particularly good at anything and has no strong motor. LB lambasted Tyson for not playing hard so what damage will be meted to KB? It's a Wizards replay.

Posted by: Altheus | Aug 26, 2010 7:11:03 PM

YO, observer blog,,I read that Charlotte is the darkhorse to get Mello, because we have players or contracts, they want. That was on yahooSPORTS.

Posted by: JC | Aug 26, 2010 9:55:06 PM

From Hollinger "If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha." Not terribly excited. I care about a center before worrying too much about the PG thing. Bugs me that we don't hear more about camp in wilmington.

Posted by: Altheus | Aug 27, 2010 2:29:03 AM

Sure the camp is Sep28th-Oct4th but I'm referring to summer workouts and other happenings.

side note; Gay, Gordon, Westbrook, Iggy..over Crash? When we really really need boards crashed? just silly. so, he missed some open threes..what about the D! Not Duke! Defense! K is an idiot(sorry to steal your word Charlottean).

He will be missed.

Posted by: Altheus | Aug 27, 2010 2:42:05 AM

i wouldn't take aaron brooks over augustin. not saying that brooks isn't better right now. he definitely is. but why give up on the outside chance that augustin might be everything brooks is if he's given the chance. otherwise we not only wasted the pick on augustin, but the pick on okafor in the name of aaron brooks. 2 top 10 picks for a 26th pick/starting pg. not an all-star. a starter.

if michael came out and said "look we made the dampier deal just for the sheer outside possibility that we landed chris paul or carmello. we knew our chances were 1 in 10 at best but we had to take that chance" i'd be okay with it. i guess. i mean it's an all or nothing approach but atleast it's something. but they still didn't need to take back both najera and carroll to do it. that was idiotic no matter how you draw it up.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 27, 2010 10:34:22 AM

I completely agree with Charlottean on the brooks vs dj thing. Here is the question: I noticed that Billups could be available, especially if they deal Mello. Why not that for Dampier? I mean, its not ideal in terms of building a long term contender, but if we could run a year with Billups, Jackson and GW as our core three, that could work really well.

Posted by: HJ | Aug 30, 2010 9:43:15 AM

It would be interesting to find out if LB still thought Ajinca was going to improve or if he gave up all hope. Regardless, we wouldn't have had the luxury to wait out another D-league stint.

Posted by: apauldds | Aug 30, 2010 1:46:45 PM

i mean if the guy was a d-league all-star in limited action and putting up a triple double in a game at that level and generally stat stuffing in limited minutes...i think he had already progressed out of that phase of development.

i don't think he was ready to be a legitimate nba big but i think he could contribute every bit that kwame will with more upside and he's definitely better than diop. i just don't get why you make that deal and include him when it wasn't necessary because it wasn't necessary to do the deal to begin with. the mavs are probably going to cut the guy because they don't have room.

it just doesn't make any sense. not with a guy of such freakish potential.

Posted by: charlottean | Aug 30, 2010 7:19:35 PM

It'd be funny if the Mavs cut him and he ends up back here.

Posted by: apauldds | Aug 31, 2010 4:49:48 PM


THE ANSWER TO THE BOBCATS PROBLEMS HIRE ME AND FIRE ROD HIGGINS,

AS YOUR THE NEW GM RAHSHON GAMBLE
I WOULD DO WHAT I CALL MAJOR FACELIFT OF THE TEAM; THE QUESTION IS SIMPLE WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY CAKE AND GET IT TOO.

IST DAY ON THE JOB CALL IN MJ AND LB AND WHITFIELD AND PROGRESS THE THE OVER ALL FEEL OF THE TEAM AS A BRAND
GOAL ONE EVERY BODY MUST GO
BUT GERALD WALLACE IS THE KEY AND MUST STAY

I WOULD TRADE FOR MELO

DENVER GETS
DIAW,S.JACKSON, NAZA MOHAMMED (DAMPIERS NON-GRAD CONTRACT)MATT CARROLL 1ST ROUND DRAFT PICK, AND CASH CONSIDERATION

BOBCAT GET

CARMELO ANTHONY, J.R SMITH AND CHRIS (THE BIRDMAN) ANDERSON

MY VISION IS TO TRANSFORM THIS BRAND INTO MORE THAN JUST A PLAY-OFF TEAM BUT A PLAY-OFF CONTENDER AND A CHAMPION CALIBLER SQUAD
THE NEW LINE-UP

PG D.J,S.LIVINGTON,COLLINS
SG CARMELO,J.R SMITH,GERALD HEND
SF GERALD WALLACE,D.BROWN,D.MCGUIRE
PF TYRUS THOMAS,E.NAJERA,D.BROWN
C CHRIS ANDERSON,DIOP,K.BROWN

MELO IMPROVES OUR TICKET SELLS, JERSEY SELLS AND MAKES US A HOME TOWN FAVORITE INSTANTLY, FANS LOVE CHRIS(THE BIRDMAN)
AND J.R SMITH GIVES US THE NEEDED POINTS OFF THE BENCH.
THE VISIONS FOR THE BOBCATS IS TO MAKE THEM THE WORKERS MAN TEAM, LIKE THE STEELERS, AND PISTONS IN THE D. WE ARE GOING TO BE A TOUGH DEFENSIVE TEAM, THAT CAN SCORE AT WILL


Posted by: RAHSON GAMBLE | Aug 31, 2010 6:18:39 PM


WHAT IM SAYING AND MORE WORDS THAN ONE IS THAT I CANT TRADE WALLACE HE HAS BECOME THE FACE OF MY FRANCHISE BUT EVERY BODY ELSE COME TO WORK WITH TWO BAGS.

Posted by: RAHSON GAMBLE | Aug 31, 2010 6:22:21 PM

This Trade is Successful!Start Over Adjust Trade Save Trade
Share your trade
Post trade to ESPN

Try This Trade Trade to:
Charlotte Bobcats
Denver NuggetsTrade Exceptions:Charlotte Bobcats Payroll

$78,066,044
Cap Room

-$20,022,044

PlayerSalaryPER
Being Traded To
C. Anthony$17,149,243$17.1M 22.3SF5 0 2 Years Acquiring 1 Player
$17,149,243$17.1M

Charlotte Bobcats Roster

Being Traded To D. Augustin$2,540,000$2.5M 11.2PG1 0 1 Year
Being Traded To D. Brown$762,195$762.1K 12.7F7 0 1 Year
Being Traded To Kwame Brown 8.0C9 0 0 Year
Being Traded To Matt Carroll$4,300,000$4.3M N/ASG2 0 3 Years
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To S. Collins$473,604$473.6K N/APG1 0 2 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To E. Dampier$13,078,000$13.0M 14.1C9 0 1 Year
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets Boris Diaw$9,000,000$9.0M 12.8PF6 0 1 Year
Being Traded To D. Diop$6,478,600$6.4M 7.8C9 0 2 Years
Being Traded To G. Henderson$2,103,840$2.1M 9.8G3 0 1 Year
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets S. Jackson$8,453,250$8.4M 15.7SG2 0 3 Years
Being Traded To S. Livingston$3,500,000$3.5M 12.8PG1 0 3 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To D. McGuire$854,389$854.3K N/ASF5 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets N. Mohammed$6,883,800$6.8M 19.6C9 0 1 Year
Being Traded To E. Najera$3,000,000$3.0M 8.5PF6 0 2 Years
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Tyrus Thomas$6,611,570$6.6M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Base Year Compensation (BYC)
BYC Expires: July 01, 2011
Outgoing Trade Value: $4,743,598
If a team is over the Salary Cap and enters into a new player contract with a Bird or Early Bird free agent or an extension of a Rookie Scale Contract, that provides for a salary in the first year of the contract in excess of 120% of the player's salary in the prior season, the player will be subject to a Base Year Compensation. If such a player is traded, his Base Year Compensation will be used instead of his salary for purposes of determining the amount of his Traded Player Exception. The player's Base Year Compensation will equal the greater of the salary for the last season of his preceding Contract, or 50% of the player's then-current salary.
Being Traded To G. Wallace$10,500,000$10.5M 18.4SF5 0 2 Years
Hollinger's Analysis: +5 Wins

With this trade you have increased this team's projected wins by 5.
Denver Nuggets Payroll

$83,767,347
Cap Room

-$25,723,347

PlayerSalaryPER
Being Traded To
Boris Diaw$9,000,000$9.0M 12.8PF6 0 1 Year Being Traded To
S. Jackson$8,453,250$8.4M 15.7SG2 0 3 Years Acquiring 2 Players
$17,453,250$17.5M

Denver Nuggets Roster

Being Traded To A. Afflalo$1,959,577$1.9M 10.9SG2 0 1 Year
Being Traded To C. Andersen$4,533,300$4.5M 15.9C9 0 4 Years
Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats C. Anthony$17,149,243$17.1M 22.3SF5 0 2 Years
Being Traded To R. Balkman$1,675,000$1.6M 6.7PF6 0 3 Years
Being Traded To C. Billups$13,150,000$13.1M 20.3PG1 0 2 Years
Being Traded To A. Carter$854,389$854.3K 10.3PG1 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.

1-Year Bird
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
Must receive consent to trade players with a 1-year contract, excluding options, who will become Early Bird or Bird free agents at the end of the contract, or players who have accepted a qualifying offer for a 5th season following the 4th option season on the Rookie Scale. If the player consents, he will lose his Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at the end of the contract.
Being Traded To A. Harrington$5,765,000$5.7M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Nene Hilario$11,360,000$11.3M 18.9C9 0 2 Years
Being Traded To Ty Lawson$1,546,560$1.5M 16.5PG1 0 1 Year
Being Traded To K. Martin$16,545,454$16.5M 13.5PF6 0 1 Year
Being Traded To J.R. Smith$6,757,851$6.7M 15.2SG2 0 1 Year
Being Traded To S. Williams$854,389$854.3K 14.1PF6 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Hollinger's Analysis: -5 Wins

With this trade you have decreased this team's projected wins by 5.

Posted by: RAHSON GAMBLE | Aug 31, 2010 6:29:36 PM

This Trade is Successful!Start Over Adjust Trade Save Trade
Share your trade
Post trade to ESPN

Try This Trade Trade to:
Charlotte Bobcats
Denver NuggetsTrade Exceptions:Charlotte Bobcats Payroll

$78,066,044
Cap Room

-$20,022,044

PlayerSalaryPER
Being Traded To
C. Andersen$4,533,300$4.5M 15.9C9 0 4 Years Being Traded To
J.R. Smith$6,757,851$6.7M 15.2SG2 0 1 Year Acquiring 2 Players
$11,291,151$11.3M

Charlotte Bobcats Roster

Being Traded To D. Augustin$2,540,000$2.5M 11.2PG1 0 1 Year
Being Traded To D. Brown$762,195$762.1K 12.7F7 0 1 Year
Being Traded To Kwame Brown 8.0C9 0 0 Year
Being Traded To Matt Carroll$4,300,000$4.3M N/ASG2 0 3 Years
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To S. Collins$473,604$473.6K N/APG1 0 2 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets E. Dampier$13,078,000$13.0M 14.1C9 0 1 Year
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Boris Diaw$9,000,000$9.0M 12.8PF6 0 1 Year
Being Traded To D. Diop$6,478,600$6.4M 7.8C9 0 2 Years
Being Traded To G. Henderson$2,103,840$2.1M 9.8G3 0 1 Year
Being Traded To S. Jackson$8,453,250$8.4M 15.7SG2 0 3 Years
Being Traded To S. Livingston$3,500,000$3.5M 12.8PG1 0 3 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To D. McGuire$854,389$854.3K N/ASF5 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To N. Mohammed$6,883,800$6.8M 19.6C9 0 1 Year
Being Traded To E. Najera$3,000,000$3.0M 8.5PF6 0 2 Years
Trade/Claim
Restriction Expires: September 13, 2010
If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)
Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011
Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Tyrus Thomas$6,611,570$6.6M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Base Year Compensation (BYC)
BYC Expires: July 01, 2011
Outgoing Trade Value: $4,743,598
If a team is over the Salary Cap and enters into a new player contract with a Bird or Early Bird free agent or an extension of a Rookie Scale Contract, that provides for a salary in the first year of the contract in excess of 120% of the player's salary in the prior season, the player will be subject to a Base Year Compensation. If such a player is traded, his Base Year Compensation will be used instead of his salary for purposes of determining the amount of his Traded Player Exception. The player's Base Year Compensation will equal the greater of the salary for the last season of his preceding Contract, or 50% of the player's then-current salary.
Being Traded To G. Wallace$10,500,000$10.5M 18.4SF5 0 2 Years
Hollinger's Analysis: +3 Wins

With this trade you have increased this team's projected wins by 3.
Denver Nuggets Payroll

$83,767,347
Cap Room

-$25,723,347

PlayerSalaryPER
Being Traded To
E. Dampier$13,078,000$13.0M 14.1C9 0 1 Year Acquiring 1 Player
$13,078,000$13.1M

Denver Nuggets Roster

Being Traded To A. Afflalo$1,959,577$1.9M 10.9SG2 0 1 Year
Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats C. Andersen$4,533,300$4.5M 15.9C9 0 4 Years
Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats C. Anthony$17,149,243$17.1M 22.3SF5 0 2 Years
Being Traded To R. Balkman$1,675,000$1.6M 6.7PF6 0 3 Years
Being Traded To C. Billups$13,150,000$13.1M 20.3PG1 0 2 Years
Being Traded To A. Carter$854,389$854.3K 10.3PG1 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.

1-Year Bird
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
Must receive consent to trade players with a 1-year contract, excluding options, who will become Early Bird or Bird free agents at the end of the contract, or players who have accepted a qualifying offer for a 5th season following the 4th option season on the Rookie Scale. If the player consents, he will lose his Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at the end of the contract.
Being Traded To A. Harrington$5,765,000$5.7M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Nene Hilario$11,360,000$11.3M 18.9C9 0 2 Years
Being Traded To Ty Lawson$1,546,560$1.5M 16.5PG1 0 1 Year
Being Traded To K. Martin$16,545,454$16.5M 13.5PF6 0 1 Year
Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats J.R. Smith$6,757,851$6.7M 15.2SG2 0 1 Year
Being Traded To S. Williams$854,389$854.3K 14.1PF6 0 1 Year
Free Agent
Restriction Expires: December 15, 2010
After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Hollinger's Analysis: -4 Wins

With this trade you have decreased this team's projected wins by 4.

Posted by: RAHSON GAMBLE | Aug 31, 2010 6:31:06 PM

while in dreamwold the carmello deal is pretty good for both sides (except for matt carroll's contract)......he doesn't want to come here. if it weren't for nba tampering rules maybe jordan could convince him but his list clearly included 3 teams and only 3 teams. if we're giving up jackson, mohammed, and another #1 pick....we better be getting more than a season out of carmello.

i just don't see that as being realistic (him signing the extension to be traded here). and again i don't see denver taking matt carroll's contract unless they were that desperate to move j.r. smith.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 2, 2010 11:04:18 AM

Agreed. Carmelo would be a one year deal and, in my opinion, not worth Wallace or Jackson in the long term. With the Ajinca deal, I agree, but don't feel quite as strong about it as you. While the guy could prove to be legit, he could prove to be a bust. At least Kwame is a somewhat underrated defender and will probably play more games than Chandler. Do you think the Dampier contract gets waived to cut payroll, or traded for a nice asset?

Posted by: The Dark Knight | Sep 2, 2010 5:42:06 PM

ajinca might be a bust, but kwame definitely is. i'd rather take the roll of the dice that the guy turns into a stud than take the sure thing that he's not.

especially when they could have had both. instead they have najera, carroll, and mcguire.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 3, 2010 3:50:02 PM

To be a bust, more than one person has to think you were actually going to be good. Unless you count the chair he was beating during his tryout, I can only count one - Coach Brown. How mad would you be if you were the top player in France making 200K a year? You see some kid average 4 points a game and get millions.

Posted by: HJ | Sep 3, 2010 5:01:00 PM

meh... still not sold on Anjinca vs. Brown, although I realize AA could very well develop into something. Still 100% agree about that Chandler/Brown/Anjinca would be far better than the years on the Najera, Carrol contracts. Chandler will never play a full season, however, the Cats did have one of the top rated defenses in the league and had we kept Chandler/Ajinca, signed Brown.. and perhaps picked up Flip Murray or someone else... it would've been much better. I mean geez... isn't Carrol getting close to $6m/season.. add in whatever Najera and the other guy are getting and we might as well have kept Felton for 3 more seasons. Ugh. I just hope we pull off a nice trade for the Dampier contract and not just waive it like Bonell suggests. Also need to start getting wise to the point that the best aspect to our team, L Brown, is out of here-- we had better be looking to some sharp prospects.

Posted by: The Dark Knight | Sep 4, 2010 12:04:10 PM

he averaged 4 points per game as a 17 year old. the guy gets the millions because he's 7 feet tall with ball skills and a jumper. you can't teach size, ask greg oden.

to answer your thoughts DK...we can't trade dampier, we couldn't have signed felton AND kept chandler, we don't need flip murray, matt carroll makes like 4.3 million but less over the following 2 years and najera 2.8 for 2 years, we didn't need to get flip murray, a rotation of augustin, jackson, livingston, henderson is more than enough for the backcourt. 1 gets hurt, theeeeeeen we talk about signing somebody else. maybe.

the biggest measure for a GM if you ask me is how much of the payroll is wasted every year. i wonder what rod higgins has averaged over the past 3 years. it's got to be atleast 10 per year. that's an all-star caliber salary. that's the difference between an 8 seed and a 4 seed.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 7, 2010 4:22:54 PM

Don't think I'll be showing up this season in my Kwame jersey or anything, but come playoff time- I'd have to go with Kwame over Ajinca. Ajinca just fouls out too quick, man. However, I remember you had stated earlier that we didn't have to send AA to Dallas; if that is the case, then it was indeed a poor move to not develop him. Especially given our lack of size.

Dude, why did you say we can't trade Dampier? I thought around approximately one week from now we could trade him and that regardless of who has the contract, the team can waive him immediately. Which, in turn, is exactly why we traded for him, or why another team will trade for him-- to cut payroll.

Higgins should be fired ASAP. But the guy is only making 1 to 2 mil a year. Still not worth it. I still can't believe that we are not dialing up Kevin Pritchard.

Posted by: The Dark Knight | Sep 7, 2010 7:35:09 PM

we can't trade him because if we do it puts us way over the luxury tax with nothing good in return. it's not happening. if we had kept chandler we couldn't have signed livingston so in essence, instead of biting the bullet for larry brown's last year, they blew up 2011-12 and 2012-13 in the name of brown's last year here. bad move.

the thing about alexis is, he hasn't gotten enough game experience to learn. he's just now starting to develop his body physically and that makes such a big difference defensively in the nba. if we had drafted him second round and stashed him in europe for a few years instead of 1st round and him coming over immediately, it would have been genius. but then again, that's our front office.

with a year of experience, he would be equal if not better than kwame. kwame has like 8 years of experience and he's only a BIT better right now. ratliff would have been better than kwame.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 8, 2010 10:00:06 AM

i too cosign the kevin pritchard sentiment. there's quite a few names out there that would work, steve kerr might not want to be full-time gm but he would make a great advisor especially during the offseason.

Posted by: charlottean | Sep 8, 2010 10:13:21 AM

This Trade is Successful!Start Over
Adjust Trade
Save Trade Share your trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=384tubpPost trade to ESPN

Try This Trade
Trade to:Charlotte BobcatsNew Orleans HornetsDenver Nuggets
Trade Exceptions:
Charlotte Bobcats Payroll

$78,066,044
Cap Room

-$20,022,044
Player
Salary
PER Being Traded To

Chris Paul$14,940,153$14.9M 23.7
PG1 0 2 Years

Being Traded To

C. Anthony$17,149,243$17.1M 22.3
SF5 0 2 Years

Being Traded To

J.R. Smith$6,757,851$6.7M 15.2
SG2 0 1 Year

Being Traded To

C. Andersen$4,533,300$4.5M 15.9
C9 0 4 Years

Acquiring 4 Players
$43,380,547$43.4M
Charlotte Bobcats Roster

Being Traded To New Orleans Hornets D. Augustin$2,540,000$2.5M 11.2PG1 0 1 Year Being Traded To D. Brown$762,195$762.1K 12.7F7 0 1 Year Being Traded To Kwame Brown$854,389$854.3K 8.0C9 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets Matt Carroll$4,300,000$4.3M N/ASG2 0 3 Years Being Traded To S. Collins$473,604$473.6K N/APG1 0 2 Years Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To New Orleans Hornets E. Dampier$13,078,000$13.0M 14.1C9 0 1 Year No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets Boris Diaw$9,000,000$9.0M 12.8PF6 0 1 Year Being Traded To Denver Nuggets D. Diop$6,478,600$6.4M 7.8C9 0 2 Years Being Traded To G. Henderson$2,103,840$2.1M 9.8G3 0 1 Year Being Traded To Denver Nuggets S. Jackson$8,453,250$8.4M 15.7SG2 0 3 Years Being Traded To S. Livingston$3,500,000$3.5M 12.8PG1 0 3 Years Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To D. McGuire$854,389$854.3K N/ASF5 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To N. Mohammed$6,883,800$6.8M 19.6C9 0 1 Year Being Traded To E. Najera$3,000,000$3.0M 8.5PF6 0 2 Years No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To Tyrus Thomas$6,611,570$6.6M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Base Year Compensation (BYC)BYC Expires: July 01, 2011
Outgoing Trade Value: $4,743,598If a team is over the Salary Cap and enters into a new player contract with a Bird or Early Bird free agent or an extension of a Rookie Scale Contract, that provides for a salary in the first year of the contract in excess of 120% of the player's salary in the prior season, the player will be subject to a Base Year Compensation. If such a player is traded, his Base Year Compensation will be used instead of his salary for purposes of determining the amount of his Traded Player Exception. The player's Base Year Compensation will equal the greater of the salary for the last season of his preceding Contract, or 50% of the player's then-current salary.
Being Traded To Denver Nuggets G. Wallace$10,500,000$10.5M 18.4SF5 0 2 Years
Hollinger's Analysis: +20 Wins

With this trade you have increased this team's projected wins by 20.
New Orleans Hornets Payroll

$66,526,758
Cap Room

-$8,482,758
Player
Salary
PER Being Traded To

E. Dampier$13,078,000$13.0M 14.1
C9 0 1 Year

Being Traded To

D. Augustin$2,540,000$2.5M 11.2
PG1 0 1 Year

Being Traded To

K. Martin$16,545,454$16.5M 13.5
PF6 0 1 Year

Acquiring 3 Players
$32,163,454$32.2M
New Orleans Hornets Roster

Being Traded To Trevor Ariza$6,322,320$6.3M 13.4SF5 0 3 Years Trade/ClaimRestriction Expires: October 11, 2010If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.
No Reacquiring (Houston Rockets)Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To M. Belinelli$2,380,270$2.3M 12.6SG2 0 1 Year Trade/ClaimRestriction Expires: October 11, 2010If a team is over the cap and receives a player in a trade or claims a player off of waivers, they cannot trade the player in combination with other players for 2 months. The player can be traded by himself.
No Reacquiring (Toronto Raptors)Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.
Being Traded To C. Brackins$1,306,920$1.3M N/ASF5 0 2 Years Being Traded To Aaron Gray$885,120$885.1K 16.6C9 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
1-Year BirdRestriction Expires: February 24, 2011Must receive consent to trade players with a 1-year contract, excluding options, who will become Early Bird or Bird free agents at the end of the contract, or players who have accepted a qualifying offer for a 5th season following the 4th option season on the Rookie Scale. If the player consents, he will lose his Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at the end of the contract.
Being Traded To Emeka Okafor$11,495,000$11.4M 16.5C9 0 4 Years Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats Chris Paul$14,940,153$14.9M 23.7PG1 0 2 Years Being Traded To Q. Pondexter$1,073,280$1.0M N/ASF5 0 2 Years Being Traded To M. Shakur$854,389$854.3K N/APG1 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To D. Songaila$4,818,000$4.8M 11.6PF6 0 1 Year Being Traded To Denver Nuggets P. Stojakovic$14,256,000$14.2M 12.4SF5 0 1 Year Being Traded To M. Thornton$762,195$762.1K 17.5G3 0 1 Year Being Traded To David West$8,287,500$8.2M 19.0PF6 0 2 Years
Trade Exceptions

H. Armstrong$2,801,198$2.8M B. Brown$736,420$736.4K D. Collison$1,361,040$1.3M A. Daniels$2,074,000$2.0M M. Peterson$6,200,000$6.2M J. Wright$2,858,057$2.8M
Hollinger's Analysis: -14 Wins

With this trade you have decreased this team's projected wins by 14.
Denver Nuggets Payroll

$83,767,347
Cap Room

-$25,723,347
Player
Salary
PER Being Traded To

G. Wallace$10,500,000$10.5M 18.4
SF5 0 2 Years

Being Traded To

P. Stojakovic$14,256,000$14.2M 12.4
SF5 0 1 Year

Being Traded To

Matt Carroll$4,300,000$4.3M N/A
SG2 0 3 Years

No Reacquiring (Dallas Mavericks)Restriction Expires: July 01, 2011Teams cannot reacquire a player that they traded during a given season (July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.

Being Traded To

D. Diop$6,478,600$6.4M 7.8
C9 0 2 Years

Being Traded To

Boris Diaw$9,000,000$9.0M 12.8
PF6 0 1 Year

Acquiring 5 Players
$44,534,600$44.5M
Denver Nuggets Roster

Being Traded To A. Afflalo$1,959,577$1.9M 10.9SG2 0 1 Year Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats C. Andersen$4,533,300$4.5M 15.9C9 0 4 Years Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats C. Anthony$17,149,243$17.1M 22.3SF5 0 2 Years Being Traded To R. Balkman$1,675,000$1.6M 6.7PF6 0 3 Years Being Traded To C. Billups$13,150,000$13.1M 20.3PG1 0 2 Years Being Traded To A. Carter$854,389$854.3K 10.3PG1 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
1-Year BirdRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010Must receive consent to trade players with a 1-year contract, excluding options, who will become Early Bird or Bird free agents at the end of the contract, or players who have accepted a qualifying offer for a 5th season following the 4th option season on the Rookie Scale. If the player consents, he will lose his Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at the end of the contract.
Being Traded To A. Harrington$5,765,000$5.7M 16.8PF6 0 5 Years Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.
Being Traded To Nene Hilario$11,360,000$11.3M 18.9C9 0 2 Years Being Traded To Ty Lawson$1,546,560$1.5M 16.5PG1 0 1 Year Being Traded To New Orleans Hornets K. Martin$16,545,454$16.5M 13.5PF6 0 1 Year Being Traded To Charlotte Bobcats J.R. Smith$6,757,851$6.7M 15.2SG2 0 1 Year Being Traded To S. Williams$854,389$854.3K 14.1PF6 0 1 Year Free AgentRestriction Expires: December 15, 2010After a free agent signs with a team, he cannot be traded for 3 months or until December 15, whichever is later.

Hollinger's Analysis: -9 Wins

With this trade you have decreased this team's projected wins by 9.

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Sep 13, 2010 7:26:34 PM


THREE-TEAM TRADE

LET BREAK IT DOWN LIKE THIS
BOBCATS GET
WE GET PAUL AND ANTHONY,JR.SMITH AND BIRDMAN
NUGGETS GET
1ST ROUND PICK
WALLACE,PJ,MATT CARROLL,DIOP,BORIS DIAW
N.O
DJ AUGUSTINE,E.DAMPIER(NON-GRAD)13 MILLION IN CAP RELIEF,K.MARTIN (EXPIRING CONTRACT)

EVERYONE GETS SOMETHING GOOD TO WORK WITH
WE GET STAR PLAYERS THEY GET DRAFT PICK, AND GOOD PLAYERS TO GROUP UP WITH BILLIUPS, EVERY ONE WINS

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Sep 13, 2010 7:36:43 PM

NEW LINE UP FOR BOBCATS

PG CHRIS PAUL/S.LIVINGTON/S.COLLINS
SG STEPHEN JACKSON/GERALD HEND/J.R SMITH
SF CARMELO ANTHONY/MCGRIWE/D.MILES
PF TYRUS THOMAS/DERRICK BROWN/E.NAJERA
C NAZA/CHRIS ANDERSON/K.BROWN

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Sep 13, 2010 7:45:28 PM

Post a comment






Advertisements