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December 11, 2010

Some post-game thoughts

-- It’s challenging to pick a single worst moment in the Celtics game, but I’ll take a stab: Eduardo Najera missing an uncontested layup in the second half.

-- Coach Larry Brown suggested for the first time that his players aren’t listening to him. That’s a big deal. It was telling that owner Michael Jordan interceded after the game, addressing the team. I hear it got really loud in there.

-- Stephen Jackson seemed particularly frustrated after the game, answering nearly every media question with some variation on, “I have no answers.’’

-- D.J. Augustin had a rough night: 0-of-8 from the field, four turnovers and one assist. Augustin once led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio, but over his last seven games, he has 28 assists and 19 turnovers.

Posted by Observer Sports on December 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM | Permalink

Comments

brown has the same look urban meyer had in his eyes when he coached this year.

Posted by: joe cool | Dec 11, 2010 11:54:06 PM

DJ lacks aggression, Wallace & Jax are old and predictable, Diaw is very inconsistent and Mohammed is old and unreliable. That starting line up is pathetic. They have a young superstar on the team right now that they need to feed the ball to on offense(TT) once he get's healthy. I really don't see anything else promising about this team right now.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Dec 12, 2010 12:32:50 AM

The lack of good team work in offense, the dearth of plays creating easy baskets (properly executed pick and rolls, back door cuts, also fastbreaks), that's what made the Bobcats so putrid tonight.

D.J. is clearly in a slump, as shown by his assists vs. turnovers numbers in his last 7 games, posted above by Rick. If only he made up for his increased turnovers with steals; he's not (just one steal in the last 9 games!). He'd better come out of this funk soon, or else, the Bobcats will find it very hard to win any games.

Nazr was the best in an awful Bobcats' offense tonight, and he played 17 minutes only (none in the last quarter). Why?
After this horrible offensive performance (actually, the defense was good, except for the last few minutes of garbage time) coach Brown is still praising Boris Diaw?! 5 points, 3 assists and 5 rebounds in 35 minutes from the starting PF; that's not how you win in the NBA. True, his work in defense was great, but that only takes you so far - as this game is clear proof.

And the cherry on top: "Coach Larry Brown suggested for the first time that his players aren’t listening to him." Yes, this is serious. It's much more serious than just the bad record (8-13), or than Augustin's (hopefully temporary) slump, or even than Brown heaping praise on Diaw for mediocrity. This is the FIRST thing that needs to change, or else... I'd rather not continue.

Posted by: Sandy | Dec 12, 2010 12:52:20 AM

Pathetic!!!!!!!

I feel sure(my opinion) if it was not for MJ holding LB to his word, LB would be gone soon.

Changes a coming!

I see Jack has made some adjustments over the past few games(cutting to the basket). Wallace is still trying to face up and Telegraph/expose the ball and drive(WTF!).

The passes these guys make... and they know they should be bounce passes or hard passes and they half ass them(TO's)!

How can you be an NBA Player and miss these Shots.

Unless you don't shoot in practice enough or WHAT!

I've watched in warmups(BEFORE GAMES AND 2ND HALF) one thing I don't see Jack and Wallace do, is LAYUPS.

YOU GUYS struggle(JACK/WALLACE/ETC.) AT LAYUPS, ALONG WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYONE OF YOU GUYS ON THE TEAM, at times! putting it nicely.

IDK!!!! I'm out, too frustrating now!!!!!!!!

Posted by: David stern has to go!! | Dec 12, 2010 12:56:49 AM

Sorry for the numbers mistake: the bad record is 8-15 now (not 8-13).

Posted by: Sandy | Dec 12, 2010 12:57:33 AM

Sandy Thanks!,

Let out a little more for us(FANS)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let it go! We all feel it!!!!!!!

Posted by: David stern has to go!! | Dec 12, 2010 1:04:37 AM

oh yeah!, Crawford as usual was Horrendous tonight!!

Posted by: David stern has to go!! | Dec 12, 2010 1:08:00 AM

Sadly, this team really looks bereft of talent right about now, especially with the injuries and Augustin's (hopefully mini) slump. I've been saying pretty much all along that Jackson and Wallace, while talented, are not up to par with the stars of other teams. It's a star driven league and the current roster doesn't match up very well. All the players need to be on the same page and digging real deep to have any shot at all. They actually played pretty decent defense against the Celtics most to the game last night, but couldn't score enough and Boston pulled away pretty easily. The scary thing is that many of the shots missed were wide open. It's one thing to miss contested shots, but if you can't hit the open ones, you're really in trouble in the NBA. I hope they're burning up the phones. Something needs to be done, but it won't be easy. There is a chunk of pretty winnable games coming up, but if the Cats don't make there move soon, I fear they won't be getting it done this season.

Posted by: Ari | Dec 12, 2010 6:43:03 AM

What a nice Holiday treat for the fans at the first sellout of the season!!! Can you sense any sarcasm there?

I haven't felt this bad about this team in 3 years.

Posted by: apauldds | Dec 12, 2010 8:02:45 AM

Blow it up. Dump LB, trade Wallace and Jack along with some of our albatross contracts (Diop) and put some semblance of a basketball team on the floor. Commit to growing a franchise "the right way" rather than LB's quiltwork of bad vet contracts, mediocre talent and maddening pet projects.

The LB model is not working anymore...let's start over.

Posted by: Zed | Dec 12, 2010 9:28:35 AM

This team is broken. Too many problems to list, but I feel the main two are Larry Brown and Stephen Jackson. It was evident from his arrival in town in the summer for practice that Brown did not want to be here and had zip enthusiasm about the upcoming season. Jax has been a pox on this team since his arrival. His negativity far outweighs his contributions...he's a block to any semblance of teambuilding. Not to mention a farce of front office that did such bankrupting deals as Diop and Carrol.

Posted by: eduardo | Dec 12, 2010 10:02:26 AM

sign me!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DOn Reid and Grant LOng | Dec 12, 2010 11:50:52 AM

Rick,
Not sure if you have seen the latest Carmelo to the Bobcats rumor on espn.com, but it sounds like MJ is pretty set on trying to make this happen. What are your thoughts on the situation? Would you make this deal if it was only for a half-season rental in order to get loads of cap space?

Posted by: gocats | Dec 12, 2010 1:15:36 PM

It's time for M.J. to get aggressive on the phones or just blow up this team and start rebuilding.

Posted by: UncTarheels23 | Dec 12, 2010 1:35:10 PM

If you think Stephen Jackson is the problem you none know nothing about basketball. The man is our leading scorer, he usually leads our team in assists, he is a mismatch nightmare for opponents, and he is a solid defender...not to mention he plays harder than anyone on the team. The issue is with our pg and gerald wallace. DJ is a soft defender and is no offensive threat to anyone except for his streaky shooting...Gerald Wallace can not shoot at all! He is a terrible shooter and free throw shooter. The only thing he can do is drive and most of the time he is called for an offensive foul. The fact is the only skilled player on this team, or the only guy that can "ball" is Stephen Jackson. If we trade him, we are toast. We should have traded Gerald, when he actually had some trade value.

Posted by: coldhardtruth5 | Dec 12, 2010 2:21:19 PM

Is anyone really surprised? This has been building all season. When your team can't score, but the one person the coach praises in a blowout is diaw (35 min, 5 points, 5 points), then you have a problem. But I know Rick, an many fans will praise the great HOF coach who won't make adjustments, an who admits is being tuned out by players. He could have gotten his vets attention by sitting them , an playing the reserves. He could try some shooters to space the floor. Maybe start TT, Brown or henderson (or all 3), an see what happens. But he would have to admit that his way is'nt working. Won't do that. Jackson, Diaw and Wallace will be back to playing 40 minute games and losing by next week. You can count on it.

Posted by: joe | Dec 12, 2010 2:59:57 PM

its hard for augustin to get many assists when he's getting guys open looks to do some masonry work instead of making shots.

Posted by: charlottean | Dec 12, 2010 3:31:11 PM

After watching the game again, I've noticed DJ throwing lazy and bad passes and not trusting the defense behind him by giving cheap fouls or driving into the lane for bad shots or taking a quick three. Normally, I'm high on him but I think the talk about Felton has bothered him and everyone else. DJ played mostly good D on Rondo.

Najera and McGuire actually had good energy. Though Najera was grossly short on his shots. Jack and Force were driving the lane but not getting calls. It would help if guys were pushed off their spots so they could drive in for a layup or dunk. Together they had decent assists, rebounds, and steals. They mainly held Pierce and Ray Allen.

The loss was mainly due to Davis and Garnett. They weren't kept off the boards and everyone knows they're roles on offense.

Posted by: Altheus | Dec 12, 2010 3:38:09 PM

RICK!

How realistic is Melo coming to NC?

Thanks.

Posted by: Bro. D | Dec 12, 2010 4:15:37 PM

Bro - I would think next to nil about Melo. Would love to see him here in CLT, but don't think it's going to happen. He wants to be in NY where he grew up... I know MJ is trying to get him, but not sure he's going to have any luck. Would love to be wrong though.

Posted by: PantherDave | Dec 12, 2010 4:58:27 PM

When things go bad, some fans are turning against Gerald Wallace.
Well, there is a reason that Gerald and Raymond Felton have been called for several years "the heart and soul" of this team. I don't think that when Gerald is playing poorly it's for a lack of desire, or that he became less competitive. See him on the floor, and you'll see fatigue, deep fatigue.

Just a few days ago, the 'Cats got their best win of this season, against Denver. Gerald scored 20 points and had 9 rebounds. Yes, but 17 of these 20 points were in the first half. In the second half he was held down to 3 points. Why, did he care less, or was he "less talented" in the second half?! No, he was already tired .

Then he had two days to rest, and he was the team's best player against Indiana. We lost, but don't ignore Gerald's double-double: 26 points, 13 rebounds. Then comes the second of back-to-back games (vs. Boston), he's expected again to play lots of minutes with very little rest, and bad performance surely comes along. When you don't have fresh legs, that's what happens: you can't be effective in dribble penetration, you can't even make open jump shots.
Since the game was evidently lost, Larry Brown emptied the bench for the last about 6 minutes. By that time, Gerald had already played close to 37 (out of 42) minutes; that means, very little rest, no attempt to replace him even though he wasn't producing.

Oh, we also had Diaw playing his regular 35 minutes despite of little offensive production (and with him, it's not fatigue, it's just being Diaw).

I wrote this before, and it's only getting worse: overloading minutes on the three veterans that have coach Brown's trust (Gerald, Jax and Boris) is counterproductive, and Larry Brown is not making adjustments. Whether he likes Derrick Brown or not (and it's true, D.B. is a very athletic player, but with really limited skills otherwise) you still need to let him play, rather than squeeze the last drop of energy from Gerald time and again, and then, also praise Diaw, even when he's an important part of the problem: a team playing at a low energy level in offense. This is a costly mistake.

- - -

Now, about Matt Carroll. I don't know how many of the current fans saw him playing in previous seasons, when he was getting consistent minutes. I watched him in almost every game he played, and I can tell that we don't get anything from him now, not because he can't play, but because he can't fit in LB's system.

Matt's biggest strength is spot-up shooting threes: 42 to 43% shooting 3s in 25 to 26 mpg (seasons 06-07 and 07-08). You won't see him doing this successfully unless he gets enough minutes consistently AND plays are called for him when he gets open for 3s. A serious weakness in his offensive game is scoring of the dribble. He can create an open mid range shot off the dribble, but he's usually missing it.
That's the big difference between him and Morrison; Adam wasn't much of a spot-up long range shooter, but, he could be really good at scoring runners.
Now, do you see Larry Brown giving Matt consistent playing time AND calling plays for open threes for him? Absolutely no, because it's against his system. Instead, you see Matt, when he gets to play, trying to put the ball on the floor, create some mid range open looks, because that's more in line with LB's system, and then, he usually misses them, and goes back to the bench.

That's what I mean by making adjustments. If you have a choice between Gerald H. and Matt, then obviously, LB will prefer Gerald H., who fits his conception of the game. But, when that player is out for a pretty long time due to injury, then you need to make the adjustments that will work for the team, rather than keep overloading minutes on the "usual suspects", whether that gives good results or bad results.

Posted by: Sandy | Dec 12, 2010 5:01:40 PM

This team is starting to remind me of the knicks when LB was there. Everybody blamed Isiah for everything but he brought some of the players LB asked for. They ended up with a bad team, bad contracts and no draft picks. Unless mj stops now, the cats are heading that way. A bad team, bad contracts and one draft pick gone. Now, one major difference is mj doesn't have money to spend as recklessly as the Knicks did otherwise we would be way over the luxurt tax.

A complete overhaul is needed. They need to let Larry go which is what he wants anyway. Trade Jax and Wallace for draft picks and include some albatross contacts in their trade. Fresh start.

Posted by: crymeariver | Dec 12, 2010 5:04:56 PM

By the way, where is higgins. I have never heard of a gm being this queit when things are going bad. He was all over the media last year when things were great. MJ need a new gm too.

Posted by: crymeariver | Dec 12, 2010 5:10:09 PM

quiet

Posted by: crymeariver | Dec 12, 2010 5:11:35 PM

sandy i completely hear your points about both wallace and carroll.

not disagreeing exactly, but i think wallace is more than fatigue. i honestly think the all-star nod and the playoff birth took a monkey off his back and took his pedal off the gas a little. not statistically per say, his rebounding is way down from this point last year but i blame that more on better help from his teammates on the boards. as a whole we're rebounding fine. last year at the start when he was on his rebounding binge we didn't have guys like jackson or tyrus so i don't blame him for having less rebounds now with those guys on board. that's consistent with the end of last year. its just stats.

the things i can't accept are him missing layups and freethrows. all-star 3's don't do that. on the season, 73% isn't that bad but for a go-to guy it is. his overall shooting is way down which i think is mostly layups. he's just not finishing plays. i know he's getting fouled a lot and not getting calls, but that is NOTHING new for him. last year he might have gotten more than usual but he's always gotten banged up and no respect.

the biggest beef i have with wallace was over the....(milwaukee?)...game when he got injured while fouled missing what would have been the game tying bucket, then leaves the game so the other team can pick kwame brown off the bench to shoot the critical free throws and meanwhile wallace misses NO TIME with the injury. find me and all-star go-to guy that that will happen with. i guess that's the point. we've always counted on and expected wallace to be that guy and he's just not. he's a glue guy. he's capable of scoring 30 points in agame but he's not going to do it with regularity. he had a great shooting year last year and now it seems it was just an abberration. felton and wallace weren't winning championships and i don't think it works in a way where you can add something and then they work.

carroll (and us) would be 9 million times better off had we never traded him and hollins for diop. he would have had years to cater his game to this offense and carve out a niche with this team. i think he's the kinda guy given an opportunity that he finds his way but with the trade and trade back its hard to gather momentum. he'll have atleast this year and next here though. nobody is taking his contract on. we not only were dumb enough to give him that contract, but we traded for it after we managed to get rid of it once. only here.

the truth at the end of the day is.....we're early into a season where we can squeak out another playoff birth and go nowhere fast but why? i think it's clear enough what we have to know that its not getting us anywhere and its not fun to watch anymore either.

carmello to NYK is starting to look like a guaruntee and if that's the case, we would be really smart to get in the mix and maybe move a wallace and or a jackson and or a diaw and get an anthony randolph and or a landry fields and or first round pick(s) and or wilson chandler and build these young guys up.

it could be a prime opportunity to rebuild on the go, grab an 8 spot this year with young guys instead of old guys and build off of it.

Posted by: charlottean | Dec 13, 2010 9:51:32 AM

This team has a problem with scoring. It lacks shooters. Jackson, Tyrus Thomas and Nazr are their best shooters, with Thomas perplexingly getting little playing time, and Nazr completely disappearing in the 2nd half of games, getting zero playing time in some instances. Jackson's shooting is sketchy at best, offset though by his passing miscues, of which the team generally is most consistent and inept. Gerald Wallace is a scrounger at best on offense, reckless in his attempt to drive into the defender in the hopes of getting a foul call, most times now being called for a charge, a legit call. This team struggles just to score, which is compounded by their poor passing, putting them even more in a hole, for they usually get outplayed badly in the lst quarter of games, making it an uphill struggle to get back into games, because it has trouble scoring.

It appears that there needs to be a reassessment in this area to take advantage of its current personnel, meaning that their best starting five should be their best offensive and defensive combo player. From this point their starting five should be Shaun, Jackson, Nazr, Thomas and Wallace. Shaun should start because he's a better defender/rebounder for a guard and scorer from 12 ft. on in than DJ, who gets outplayed and torched often by the opponents point guards, offsetting his impressive assist-to-turnover stat, which is nothing but a stat. Thomas should start because he gives them scoring, "shotblocking", rebounding and he is a reliable free throw shooter. Coming off the bench with Diaw, D. Brown, Kwame, DJ and Henderson is enough to sustain the 2nd unit to give the starters a blow. The lst unit as scorers and defenders is better to keep them competitive in games, especially to offset poor lst qtrs, which puts the team way behind the eight ball, where they struggle mightily just to get back into games, given their lack of reliable shooters, coupled with their awful passing game. Thomas not consistently getting minimally 30 mins. of playing time per game, given his talent and the needs for this team, is absurd.

I've never seen a team try to consistently force the ball into double teams, resulting in inane turnovers, or force the ball into an area where the passing lane is cut off, but the players insist on passing it just to finish the play. Ridiculous. Sometimes one can catch Michael repeatedly shaking his head at these ridiculous miscues. There is no excuse for an NBA team to be this sloppy with the ball. It's the worst I've ever seen.

Kwame and Diaw are not in basketball shape. They're overweight and need to lose 25 lbs or more. Get tired of seeing Diaw lumbering up and down the court, unable to keep up with his man on "D" and not finish on the break.

Finally, Larry Brown should be let go. He's mishandled Thomas, Henderson and D. Brown, who should be playing over McGuire. McGuire can't shoot a lick. Often I've seen Thomas have a series of scoring, rebounding and defending binges to suddenly be replaced after a miscue, never to be seen again. Plus, every time there is a break in the action, someone is being replaced for no reason. The constant shuttling in and out of players is ridiculous, especially after the disastrous lst quarters. Players cannot find a rhythm with these yo-yo substitution patterns.

Posted by: Ron | Dec 13, 2010 11:49:14 AM


OKAY I THINK TRADING FOR MELO IS A COOL IDEA
FOR LETS GET BIRDMAN AND TY LAWSON IN THE DEAL

NUGGETS GET
G.WALLACE B.DIAW AND GERALD HENDERSON,DIOP
1ST ROUND PICK

BOBCATS GET
CARMELO ANTHONY
TY LAWSON AND J.R SMITH
BIRDMAN

WE'LL FREE UP CAP SPACE NEXT YEAR
LET MELO GO TO NY IF HE CHOOSE'S TOO
WE'LL SELL ALOT OF TICKETS RIGHT NOW
MELO AND JACKSON SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GIVE US A PLAY-OFF PUSH,
WITH J.R SMITH WELL GET THREE-POINT SHOT THREAT WE NEED AND GOOD DEFENSE.
THE OTHER PLUS IS TO GET TY LAWSON HE COULD PUSH DJ FOR THE STARTER POSITION CHRIS IS A GOOD RE-BOUNDER AND SHOULD FIT WELL IN LB SYSTEM

1.FREE UP 23 MILLION CAP SPACE NEXT SEASON
2.GET A UPGRADE AND PG AND CENTER POSITIONS
3.SELL A LOT OF TICKETS THIS SEASON

IF YOU DO A DEAL NOW, YOU CAN ALSO BE ABLE TO WORK OUT A BLOCK BUSTER DEAL LATER WITH NY OR NJ BEFORE TRADE DEADLINE

NY TRADE

BOBCATS GET
E.CURRY 11MILLION CAP SPACE
A.RANDOLPH PF
D.GALLINARI
1ST ROUND PICK

NEW YORK
GETS
MELO
AND
MATT CARROLL


Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Dec 13, 2010 1:44:55 PM


IF WE TRADE WITH NJ
BOBCATS GET
D.FAVORS
DEVIN HARRIS
1ST ROUND DRAFT PICK

NJ GET
DJ AUGUSTINE
MELO

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Dec 13, 2010 1:48:35 PM

I like the idea of Melo stepping in a bobcat uniform, but nonguaranteed contract for all of those players Gerald, Boris, Hendenson, and whomever. I really don't think his heart is in Charlotte because of the NY state of mind. But I do like the idea of Chris Kaman, Jamal Crawford, Mike Pietrus, Jason Thompson, NeNe and/or JR Smith. We lack shooters in all phrases so an upgrade for shooting would be great. Also McGuire can be included in any package. I think if it were up to LB he would start him like he's the main superstar on the team. Ah hell we need to get some raw talent with not losing everything even though we got some bad contracts.

T bird

Posted by: tbird | Dec 13, 2010 1:52:55 PM


TRADE 1 ROSTER DENVER

DJ
S.JACKSON
MELO
TYRUS THOMAS
NAZA

ONLY WE DECIDE TO TRADE MELO WHICH I REALLY DOUBT

TRADE 2 ROSTER NY

DJ
S JACKSON
DANILO
TYRUS THOMAS
NAZA

TRADE 3 ROSTER NJ

DEVIN HARRIS
JR SMITH
S JACKSON
TYRUS THOMAS
NAZA

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Dec 13, 2010 1:54:21 PM


MJ IS A SMART BUSINESS MAN AND KNOWS THE SHORT TERM ADDITION OF MELO WE PAY BIG IN THE TICKET BOX FREE UP CAP-SPACE AND MAYBE LEAD TO A PLAY-OFF RUN, BUT MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU COULD SELL MELO ON CHARLOTTE IF NOT COOL YOU GET CAP-RELIEF, YOU GO OUT IN FREE-AGENCY AND FIND SOME AFFORDABLE HELP, BUT THE KEY IS TO TRADE FOR MELO BUT GET SOMETHING YOU NEED FOR THE FUTURE LIKE TY LAWSON

Posted by: RAHSHON GAMBLE | Dec 13, 2010 1:59:39 PM

charlottean, I gave some examples of recent games, showing how Gerald is highly productive when he's back from some rest, and how his production dwindles quickly when fatigue sets in.
The real trouble here is that, at this early stage of the season, it doesn't take much for Gerald to slide into low production: second half of a game, after being great the first half, or, the second of back-to-back games, after playing great in the first one. Much damage to his body was already done in previous seasons, and more than before, last season when he averaged 41 mpg.

Gerald's manner of playing is very physical, it exposes his body to endless damage, and the punishment such a player's body takes over the years is accumulating in his body. He CANNOT give us anymore close to 40 minutes per game at high level.

I would never doubt Gerald's commitment and competitiveness. I watch him in every game, and his body language is often screaming WEAR-OUT.

charlottean, I put some work into verifying my observations against this season stats, and the results are staggering. I take as a turning point the 11/15 game against the Wolves, when Gerald scored 26 points, making 17 out 19 free throws. I wrote at that time that Gerald sacrificed his body for that unusual achievement.

Here are the numbers for his decline this season. These are all comparisons between his first 11 games of this season (great) vs. the last 12 games (not so good): 18.5 ppg vs. 15.4 ppg, 78.6% vs 65% for free throws, 45%[unusual, but last season it was 37%] vs. 23% (ouch) for 3 pointers, from taking 8 FT/g to taking 5.5 FT/g, from 2 3s attempted per game to 2.5 3s attempted per game. The decline is terrible, just from the earlier part of this season to the more recent games. Less scoring, much lower shooting percentage, relying more on long range shooting than on drives that bring the free throws.

You can see him often getting slower, with less bounce in his step, and therefore less effective on drives. Also, when your legs aren't fresh, it's harder to make even uncontested jump shots - including free throws.
As I said, it's a cumulative, year to year, wear out effect. Coach Brown must take note of this: you can't continue running Gerald ragged and expect great results. He needs more rest time (and not only in garbage time, as it happened vs. Boston...).

The team has two days of rest between the last game and the next, so, Gerald might perform very well against the Raptors (as he did in Indiana). But, there is a problem here, and that goes far beyond one game only.

Posted by: Sandy | Dec 13, 2010 4:42:09 PM

The funniest thing I read is that Michael Jordan is a "smart businessman"!

Posted by: digal704 | Dec 13, 2010 5:40:46 PM

yea sandy, I wasn't arguing the fatigue factor at all. I'm just adding the heart thing to the table. It's not that he doesn't care it's that he doesn't have the same chip on his shoulder he always did.

I mean I have never seen a guy leave a game where he's going to the line to shoot the tying free throws. I've never seen that happen ever. I watch hundreds of basketball games a year and everytime a guy gets hurt on the last play of the game he atleast attempts the first one. I mean he's supposed to be our guy. if he came off and it was announced he was missing 6 months with an injury or even 6 days (maybe), he'd get a pass. dude was at practice the next day. that's just horrible. you know the rules, they get to PICK who shoots the free throws. i mean that could have been diop.

i just can't forgive that kind of action from a "franchise guy" not to mention his performane at the world tryouts was just further proving that the guy shies away in the big moments.

not to mention some of his interviews thus far this year have been pretty finger pointy and not very owning this team. like somebody else posted on here a few days ago when comments were made towards DJ (out of context or not) you never heard MJ talking about john paxon or b.j. armstrong or luc longley or some ish.

we would be better off rebuilding then riding this out on his and jack's shoulders. nobody is coming to the games to see these guys either so i mean there can't be THAT much attachment there. It's not like muggsy or Dell or something.

the one thing about jack and wallace is that they are paid very reasonably. they earn their contracts entirely. but we've got several dead weight contracts on the books for several years and we've got some young'ns at both positions that we would no question be better off using jack and gerald to upgrade 1 of the positions and promote at the other. you could even start tyrus and boris with tyrus guarding 3's and boris playing the 3 on offense.

idk that free throw thing and the comments just completely removed me from the gerald wallace bandwagon/fanclub/appreciators/etc.

he is ball-less.

Posted by: charlottean | Dec 13, 2010 8:04:00 PM

charlottean, I'm not second guessing Gerald on leaving the game before those famous free throws, and I have no idea why you do it.
I saw Gerald so many times putting his body on the line, getting hurt and coming back in the game, that really, he's the last one a fan can suspect of "faking". He had a bad fall, he was evidently in intense pain, and the fact that he recovered by the next day shows that nothing was broken - not that his pain wasn't real at that time.
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation: if he had taken the free throws and missed, wouldn't he have been blamed as an irresponsible ego trip? I bet that would've been the reaction. He made 7 out of 8 FTs in that game; he had no other reason to get off the floor at that time but the intense pain, more than he could take at that time.

As for his comments: what he said wasn't false, but also, wasn't what you expect from a team co-captain. I posted too a critical comment on that, saying that he and Jax should step up to the leadership responsibility, not complain. Why did he do it? Besides blaming him, you have to realize that he's very frustrated that this team doesn't have good enough team work in offense, doesn't create enough easy baskets, and that leaves him too often with the options of isolation plays or shooting 3s only, and both became lately a serious problem (to which I referred in my previous post).
Sorry to hear you're not a G-Force fan anymore, I certainly am. He did too much for this team through the years, he tries too hard in this season too, to have fans turning their backs on him now, making him some sort of scapegoat for the team's misfortunes.

Posted by: Sandy | Dec 13, 2010 11:18:30 PM

michael jordan is a smarter enough businessman to be the first black owner of an nba team..checkmate chump

Posted by: teemac1974 | Dec 15, 2010 4:51:54 PM

i agree with an earlier post, a boy that came from nothing who becamse an icon and now owns an nba team who once had million dollars in endorsement and also own a billion dollar shoe and clothing line apparel is pretty dam smart business man to me as well, i bet the blogger who commented about mike being dumb don't even own a house or car, just running his mouth usual

Posted by: callingitlikeiseeit | Dec 15, 2010 4:56:08 PM

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