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February 25, 2011

MoPete, Marks already history

Charlotte Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins said he plans to release veterans Morris Peterson and Sean Marks, players who were picked up to make trades work Thursday.

That opens the possibility the Bobcats will bring back one or more of the players they waived -- Derrick Brown, Dominic McGuire or Sherron Collins -- or possibly someone else, since they'll have room under the 15-man roster maximum.

Higgins confirmed that the first-round picks they're getting are one Portland acquired from New Orleans (for June's draft) and another one down the road directly from Portland. The earliest the Bobcats could get that pick is 2013, and there is protection on that pick.

Also, Higgins said Portland center Joel Przybilla has agreed to report to the Bobcats. Higgins would not address whether Przybilla or his agent, Bill Duffy, requested a buy-out, rather than a move to the Bobcats.

 

Posted by Observer Sports on February 25, 2011 at 12:23 PM | Permalink

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Rick, can you explain what a protected pick means, and whats the chances if they pick one of these players and he plays tonight?

Posted by: Mark | Feb 25, 2011 12:39:43 PM

It means the 2013 draft pick is still used by Portland instead of Bobcats if it is a lottery (top 15?) pick. And there is zero chance of the draft picks playing tonight.

Pryzbilla the White Gorilla gets after it pretty good when he's healthy. Glad he is reporting, at least makes up for the loss of Nazr. Gives hope to the Cats still making a token playoff appearance if Henderson can step up.

Posted by: hambone | Feb 25, 2011 1:00:03 PM

hambone, i meant if they pick UP derrick brown or mcguire today will they play tonight.

Posted by: Mark | Feb 25, 2011 1:23:56 PM

Protected means we don't get the pick if it falls above a certain threshold, in this case if its a top 10 pick in 2013, 14, or 15.

Posted by: Rick Swanson | Feb 25, 2011 1:25:11 PM

Mark, they have to clear waivers (think that's a certain number of days) before they become free agents (and we could pick them back up) - as for now (until they clear), (pretty sure) any other team that has the space (or can make space) can pick them up at their current salary.

Posted by: Adam | Feb 25, 2011 1:30:03 PM

Pryzbilla is the "Vanilla Gorilla", not the "White Gorilla".

Posted by: Clay | Feb 25, 2011 2:09:42 PM

He'll always be Ghostface Pryzbilla on Slam.

Posted by: Bro. D | Feb 25, 2011 2:18:51 PM

By the way, did anyone noticed that after this deal, assuming the Bobcats don't excercise the options on Livingston and White (which they shouldn't), by the summer of 2012 they should have enough cap to sign 2 Max deal's and another decent contract (about $36-$38M in Cap space) in the summer of 2012. This is when: C. Paul, D. Williams, D. Howard & C. Kaman, among other can become Free Agents. There are also guys like: K. Hinrich, M. Pietrus, JJ. Hickson, A. Jamison, J. Terry, Nene H., C. Lee, D. West and other Tier 2 guys who will be Free Agents.

If the Salary Cap is around $60M in 2012 (which makes sense, depending on the new CBA), the Bobcats will have anywere between $36-$40M avaliable for that summer and that is assuming they pick the options on DJ and Henderson. Also, you can add the Mid-Level and Bi-Annual Exceptions if they still exist.

So basically they will have: Augustin, Henderson, Jackson (expiring) and Thomas, plus the ability of signing 2 Max deals plus another contract of around $4-$6M per season, and the exceptions. In addition, in the summer of 2013 they'll have an additional $15-$18M avaliable when Jackson, Diop and Carroll contracts expire.

If MJ and his Staff use this Cap Space and Picks wisely, this can end up being the best trade ever. And yes, I will miss G-Wallace, he was my favorite Bobcat and I wish him the best, but from a business perspective, this can end up being a great trade afetr all.

Posted by: RobC | Feb 25, 2011 2:25:17 PM

Great analysis RobC. My only issue is that I do not have a lot of confidence in MJ and/or the front office to make the correct moves down the road......whether that be drafting wisely or signing free agents. CP3 is going to the knicks so you can strike him off the list.

Posted by: James Reed | Feb 25, 2011 2:50:31 PM

No reason not to like this deal unless you were intent on being in 8th place and getting swept in the first round of the playoffs. Of course, there is no gaurentee that they would have even made the playoffs. I am just happy we have a shot in the draft and free agency now. Not sure how they will do based on the track record, but I know how it would have turned out if they kept Gerlad. Same average at best team.

Posted by: Gary | Feb 25, 2011 3:39:20 PM

James Reed,

According to ESPN, it is quite possible that the Knicks won't have enough cap space to sign Chris Paul. He will demand a Max Salary and the Knick will not have that ability unless they do some magic down the road. ESPN is actually suggesting thay might think about resigning Felton, since he was playing very good for them. So I wouldn't give up on it just yet.

I don't know what will happen in Indiana, since they are now playing better and in playoffs contention. But as of January, there were rumors they were willing to trade Granger. What if we put together a package of Jackson and a few 1st Rounders, plus maybe Henderson or DJ. They will save money, have some good picks and some talented players. Then we can go after Paul and maybe Howard will be tempted, and sign someone like Pietrus or J-Richardson.

Paul
Pietrus/Richardson
Granger
Thomas
Howard

That's a pretty solid team that can definetly win a Championship.

Yes I know, I'm DREAMING, but at least this is a realistic scenario assuming those players are willing to come to Charlotte. It all depends on how the new CBA works out. It's suppose to give Small-Market teams an opportunity to compete. We'll see!

Posted by: RobC | Feb 25, 2011 3:40:19 PM

I'd like to see the Cats pick up a decent 5 from the free agent pile. Great that Pryz is reporting, but he is often injured. Yes we can play small but I'd prefer to have some size available to throw at those teams with big front lines.

Posted by: Bassman | Feb 25, 2011 4:10:50 PM

This season and next are trash. B-cats trying to save money/cuts costs like every one else in the US. Ponzi scheme is just about over and the US is headed to secord-world status.. Everyone is broke. I got tickets to Kings tonight and now I feel terrible with G-force gone - even more a watered-down product now. Only reason i'm going is because my brother has never experieneced a NBA game before .. Blame the trade on Libya and the rest in the middle east. Hell I'll play for the bobcats @ 150K year??

Posted by: Bozack23 | Feb 25, 2011 4:23:51 PM

Are you crazy? The Bobcats traded Gerald Wallace because of what's happening in Libya??? Yeah, I'm sure that was the thinking behind the move. Lol...

Posted by: Sam | Feb 25, 2011 4:53:22 PM

The ? is what's Wallace's value compared to Deron Williams. Thus we have context. Both were traded for two 1st round picks, a young player in Favors n Cunningham, a veteran in Devin Harris n Przybilla. Homever we got Sean Marks additionally n the Jazz got cash thrown in. Harris n Favors r a lil better than Przy n Cunningham but that's the reflection of Deron being worth more than Wallace. So, I see this as a fair deal n I think Cunningham just needs playing time. He had 18pts 13rbs just 11 days ago. He is now what expansion-Wallace was when he came from Sacramento.

DJ white could be a nice bench player a la Najera. Hendo will fill most of the Wallace void.

For now, I say great, timely trade.

Posted by: SternFreeJackson | Feb 25, 2011 4:57:59 PM

Actually, we also got cash from Portland. We're financially positioned to add an elite player or two in the future. If Przy or Dante step up decently, we'll have won this trade.

Posted by: SternFreeJackson | Feb 25, 2011 5:22:11 PM

The only upside to this trade is the financial flexibility - IF, IF, IF - the NBA succeeds in getting a hard cap.

If a hard cap is enforced, say goodbye to the LA Lakers spending 110 mil on a 57 million cap. NYC will be unable to sign a third marquee player. Marquee free agents will be forced to explore small market teams - they won't have a choice.

The picks are going to stink, so no one get too excited. NOH is currently 5th in the west, just added Landry, and Utah and Denver will be chaos for the remainder of the season. Expect that pick to be low to mid 20's. Odds aren't with us in that range. Blazers pick is protected, but they are in no danger of falling off a cliff anytime soon either. At best, we move these picks to for a higher pick.

So, I say let the rebuilding begin - dump Diaw and Jackson in the offseason as well and set out sights on 2012.

Posted by: Zed | Feb 25, 2011 5:34:04 PM

Charlotte fans will be pleasantly surprised by the hustle and ability of Dante Cunningham, who is as well-grounded in fundamental basketball as any player you will ever see. He is self-described as a guy who does the dirty work, sets picks, screens and can play defense on four positions. He is no G. Wallace, but his effort is unquestioned. To describe him as a throwaway is seriously erroneous.

Posted by: Larry Harris | Feb 25, 2011 5:41:28 PM

i want to puke

Posted by: JC | Feb 25, 2011 7:14:47 PM

The first retooling consideration is cap space $$$. Then you have to hire a high profile Coach or GM that can attract A-list talent (i.e. Pat Riley @ Miami).

Posted by: Ralph | Feb 25, 2011 7:19:20 PM

The biggest problem with this trade is the *pardon my language* sh***y picks we will get!! We get NO's pick, and they're doing very well, which means the pick will be around 25. With that low a pick and our inability to draft well, the selection will be atrocious. The POR pick will be extremely mediocre, since it's lottery protected. Expect that pick to be about 20ish, meaning another poor pick. Ok with the trade and players, but the picks will not be useful at all. I wish we could have gotten Cleveland or Washington's pick, you know a crappy team....

Posted by: Josh | Feb 25, 2011 9:07:10 PM

Rob how do you figure those numbers?

I'm not looking at everything thorough but just jackson, thomas, carroll & diop = ~ 30 million. Plus we have 2 first rounders this year, plus henderson plus augustin will have to be extended to be kept that long. And the way he's playing it'll be atleast 6.5 million a year. Maybe more by then. what's his QA? 5? And that's 8 of the required 13 players and around 40 million depending on the picks.

Aaaaand the proposal is for a hard cap (which will be very hard to get by the players but not impossible) so we have no idea how much a "max contract" would be but we would be sitting with 20 million to spend of 5 to 7 guys and none of the elite guys will want to come here.

Our best bet is somebody like augustin or henderson or player to be named later to develop into an elite guy. And in that regard we really blew it giving up on ajinca and we really blew it not grabbing guys like mayo or beasley or gallinari who have all been available in the past year.

I don't know where the 30+ million came from on a 60 million cap.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 26, 2011 11:15:07 AM

Just as an FYI to the new fans in Charlotte, it's Przybilla, not Pryzbilla. The Z is before the Y.

Also, he absolutely HATES that "Vanilla Gorilla" nickname. Call him Thrilla (as in Thrilla Przybilla), that's what he likes.

Joel, we all hope to see you back in Portland soon...if not in 30, then next season.

- Everybody in Portland

Posted by: Chas | Feb 26, 2011 2:05:02 PM

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