February 23, 2011
Source: No Bobcats-Blazers deal
If the Charlotte Bobcats and Portland Trail Blazers ever were close to a deal involving Gerald Wallace, those discussions are currently dead, according to a source familiar with the situation.
The internet was abuzz Wednesday with rumors Wallace was about to be moved to Portland, before Thursday's trade deadline. This much is true: The Bobcats approached the Blazers as far back as December, to inquire about their interest in Wallace. The Blazers showed enough interest to do research on Wallace's personality and health.
The deal frequently described on the internet today -- Wallace for Joel Przybilla's expiring contract and a couple of draft picks. -- never made sense to me, unless the Bobcats simply want to dump the two years and $21 million left on Wallace's contract beyond this season. Portland would have been fleecing the Bobcats big-time.
This much is true: Wallace and Stephen Jackson both are best defensively against small forwards. So if Gerald Henderson continues to develop, the Bobcats might have to choose between Wallace and Jackson. But, again, this struck me as a ridiculously bad deal for the Bobcats.
Posted by Observer Sports on February 23, 2011 at 09:13 PM | Permalink
Just was @ the arena. Met with many. Paul still says Gerald isn't going anywhere. Jack loves being "the guyy" here. However, they undertand they are stuck at 7, 8 seed. Can they trade Gerald and Diaw for the future? Can they bring back enough to move to maybe 3-5 seed in next few years? Not sure. Being weighed. Everyone was upbeat tonight though. No need to worry as a bobcat fan. Lots of positive ideas and thoughts.
Posted by: Wilbur | Feb 23, 2011 9:26:19 PM
Amen, Rick. Second everything you say here. Thanks so much for putting this to bed.
Posted by: Zed | Feb 23, 2011 9:27:04 PM
Oh yeah........Forgot to mention. I specifically asked what they thought about Bonnell. Personally, i appreciate having the coverage. But, y'all give him he$$ sometimes. Got mixed reviews. Paul smiled and rolled his eyes. Don't think it was A bad reaction though.....just think that the media as a whole frustrates the franchise.
Posted by: Wilbur | Feb 23, 2011 9:35:11 PM
Sorry for your loss Rick heard about on the Bobcats game against the Raptors !!! Hope you will be able to get through this !! :-(
Posted by: BR2850 | Feb 23, 2011 9:39:17 PM
Thanks so much. It's been a rough week, but my mom is in a better place, and I spent the past few days making sure my Dad is OK.
They take care of us, now it's time to take care of them.
Posted by: Rick Bonnell | Feb 23, 2011 9:52:35 PM
This deal only makes sense because I expect nothing less from a team that during the off-season made a salary dump in which they ended up taking on more salary for the future. It's shameful that it got as far as it did without the Bobcats hanging up the phone laughing.
I'll once again echo my feelings that this team will not succeed until MJ and his boys no longer have a say in player personnel.
If they meant to move Jack/GW they should have done so at the BEGINNING of the season so we could tank and get a high draft pick. Fans will accept a rebuild, if you tell them in advance.
BUT they don't understand dumping the 2nd best player on the team for two hasbeens' expiring contracts when you're 2.5 games out of the final playoff spot.
So in conclusion, quit going to games. Make your voice heard in the most meaningful way possible. We won't stand being jerked around. Quit giving your money to an owner who only hires his 'boys' and apparently considered trading the 2nd best player on the team for bums.
Posted by: I used to sit near Buzz | Feb 23, 2011 9:53:27 PM
Gerald Henderson, developing? I thought he was too injured and untalented to even get off an NBA bench. Somebody bring back that coaching stud Larry Brown to put him in his place!
Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 23, 2011 9:58:36 PM
I've been a season ticket holder from day one and you are right about MJ. I think he was the worst thing to happen to our organization. He made a mess in Washington and now he's doing it here.
Posted by: t | Feb 23, 2011 10:08:10 PM
Diaw Must Go. The Thomas signing makes no sense with them both here. That's an expensive back-up. Ship Henderson and Diaw on for what you can get.
Posted by: bobcatsfan05 | Feb 23, 2011 10:11:50 PM
Rick I send my condolences for the loss of your mother, I lost my dad several years ago and I still miss him. Jim Celenia lost his mother this week too, and our condolences to Jim too.
I'm glad the 'cats aren't trading Wallace, at least not now.
Posted by: trulytimely | Feb 23, 2011 10:14:00 PM
I was at the arena too, everyone was upbeat except for Gerald. Maybe all that trade talk had him in a crappy mood. He signed my shirt, but acted like someone twisted his arm to make it happen. I asked Tyrus about his injury he said its more like three weeks to be ready to play. That sounds about right, go bobcats! These guys look like they will give us 100% to make the playoff's. Getting the 20th pick in the draft is not likely to help us. We need that 8th spot or better.
Posted by: easye | Feb 23, 2011 10:14:53 PM
If a STAR Player were available via trade, I would welcome it. Losing Diaw, GW, or Jack without receiving value would torpedoe this team.
Posted by: Derrick | Feb 23, 2011 10:24:19 PM
You are right, GW was not happy. Rick, I am sorry about your loss.
Posted by: Wilbur | Feb 23, 2011 10:26:07 PM
Oh update time: Bobcats want Rudy Fernandez added to the deal.
Sound great eh?
One problem: Rudy's agent says if he's traded here he'll ask for a buyout and go back to Spain.
That's what MJ has reduced our organization to. Players threatening to retire or go back to Europe rather than play here.
Sad state of affairs.
It's not going to get better.
Posted by: I used to sit near Buzz | Feb 23, 2011 10:26:33 PM
Moving Henderson is a bad idea. Moving DJ is a worse idea. Moving Thomas? Worst idea ever. Moving Stephen Jackson? I'm "meh". I'd prefer to keep him.
The rest, well let's at least TRY to get equal value, ok guys?
Posted by: captaincrunk | Feb 23, 2011 10:30:21 PM
those reports of getting wallace for nothing had to be only coming out of portland.
Posted by: joe cool | Feb 23, 2011 10:35:12 PM
Call up New Jersey, they were tempted to deal Outlaw earlier in the year give them Henderson and Diaw for Outlaw and Johan Petro. We get size and a solid 6th man in Outlaw. Throw in a first round pick if needed, the 20th pick in the draft isn't going to get us anything anyways.
Posted by: bobcatsfan05 | Feb 23, 2011 10:38:31 PM
Thank goodness GW is not being dealt. Rick - sorry to hear about your loss. My condolences to you and your family!
Posted by: PantherDave | Feb 23, 2011 10:43:24 PM
I for one am exhaling to know they aren't going to deal Wallace. It never made sense, not even as a salary dump (unless Jack is also being dealt shortly thereafter). Better to push for the playoffs this year, reconsider rebuilding in the offseason.
But with Deron and Melo in the East, we're not going to be higher than 7th seed for years to come, so no need to blow things up any time soon. And this year's draft lacks superstars too.
Posted by: Joshua | Feb 23, 2011 10:49:40 PM
Good to have you back Rick and sorry for your loss. To all of you MJ bashers, please give the man some time! You guys are way to quick to criticize. Right now we have 2 of our own big 3 to compete with the likes of other big 3's in Miami, Orlando, Boston, Chicago and now New York. Once a few of these bad contracts are up or traded ( Mohammed, Diop, Carroll, Najera) we can get 1 more star to team with Jack and GW and we'll be back in business! Patience my friends, Patience.
Posted by: b1130 | Feb 23, 2011 10:53:32 PM
We need to do something. The East is constantly getting better and all I see in our future is either a few more years of battling for the last seed or the need for a rebuilding process.
Hard part is Charlotte isn't exactly a top spot to play so we need to do it the Oklahoma way. Good drafting and smart trades/signing. Going out and getting a big time FA isn't going to happen.
Posted by: Tyler | Feb 23, 2011 11:02:40 PM
I think we should go after Outlaw now and then JR in the off season this might not be his top spot but for the right price we could get him here. After nxt year we will finally be out of the Diop and Naz deals and just a year from being done with Jackson's. So it would be easier to move him nxt year and the 25 year olds of Outlaw and JR can easily pick up the offensive load and maybe next year trade dead line we trade jack for a Center that can help us. In the mean time Trade Diaw/Henderson get Outlaw in a Bobcats Jersey.
Posted by: bobcatsfan05 | Feb 23, 2011 11:13:51 PM
I wouldn't speak so fast until the trade deadline approaches. Rick nba sources are say that Charlotte and Portland continue ongoing discussions. Jordan wants Fernandez thrown in the deal at this point. Crybaby Fernandez threaten to go back to Spain if he is traded to Bobcats.
Posted by: tbird | Feb 24, 2011 12:01:38 AM
This is exactly the very issue with the NBA...you have owners who want to dump for salary cap and hope fans will still support a crappy product. Then, you have players dictate where they want to play. Stern needs to shore this up quick before not only fans lose support of the NBA, but viewers will tune them out too! It's bad enough now that we can say either Boston, LA, Miami, or Chicago will win the NBA championship. Now with players dictating where they are only willing to go, it's going to be a 2 team race sooner than later. NBA is getting boring to watch unless you live in one of the BIG cities.
Posted by: KYL | Feb 24, 2011 12:14:52 AM
We need to trade Boris maybe to the jazz for Milsap who would be the perfect PF for our team since the jazz look like they are rebuilding. Their salaries are similar their game are opposite Jazz need ball movement after moving D-Will. We need a bruiser who can score and rebound on the inside. when we go small Tyrus can play center in a pinch. That deal would make us relevant for years to come. MJ get on the phone!
Posted by: easye | Feb 24, 2011 12:40:13 AM
Boris Diaw for Paul Milsap straight up would almost be a sin to commit for the Bobcats. If that was presented and accepted, the Bobcats better pull that trigger faster than they can get ahold of the actual gun!
Posted by: KYL | Feb 24, 2011 12:58:55 AM
I believe moving CRASH is a smart move. If anyone has been watching the games of late Henderson is growing every-time he steps onto the court. I believe we have a great group of young talent and if we cant get more scores with Jack we want be making the 8 seed. I believe CRASH is a great player that will be missed but its time to move on. I think MJ knows what he's doing but this is a hard market but you do have players that would love to come and play for Jordan because they know how much he wants to win. We dont agree with everything he does but i do agree that its time to make change and let henderson take over and lets see if we can make a run at the playoffs and just think if TT doesnt get hurt the bobcats are easy talking about been a 6 or 7 seed. so who ever said something about thomas deal this summer is crazy and dont know basketball and i also believe we need let go diaw because he just a waste and every night you dont know what you are going to get. So let make some moves make the playoffs and if he dont make a trade in three weeks we get TT back which is a big plus for the bobcats
Posted by: dluckey | Feb 24, 2011 1:18:20 AM
First move they need to make is to cut Gerald Thugerson. I mean Henderson.
Posted by: dook sucks | Feb 24, 2011 2:58:34 AM
Any team dumb enough to make Gerald Henderson a starter will not make the playoffs. He's a bench player at best.
When he blows out his knees in the next 2 years, he'll be an undersized SG who no longer has the athleticism to be a difference maker.
Posted by: dook sucks | Feb 24, 2011 3:00:36 AM
We are not winning anything with this team. If you can get picks and expiring contracts for Wallace, take them. If Fernandez retires, even better. More cap space. can't believe people are happy with a perennial 8th place team. We need picks and space to build. If fans want to leave when they trade Wallace, let them. More will be inthe building if they become a real contender anyway. this affection for over paid, marginal players like Wallace is ridiculous. Who cares about the 8th seed. Start rebuilding now.
Posted by: Gary | Feb 24, 2011 6:19:54 AM
Posted by: Worst Players | Feb 24, 2011 7:47:20 AM
That's where you are wrong. This isn't a marginal team. If Silas is coach from day one, the 'cats are fighting for 5th seed, maybe higher. Plus, once Tyrus comes back we'll be pretty good. The only mistake was convincing Brown to come back and coach again.
Don't make any moves this year, grab the 8th seed, win a playoff game and keep building the fan base. Trading Greald now would turn the arena into a ghost town unless you bring in a star.
Posted by: Jlr | Feb 24, 2011 7:52:58 AM
Gerald Wallace continues to be the most exciting and most popular Bobcat on the team. By a large margin!
Trading him would be horrendous.
Posted by: Courtside | Feb 24, 2011 8:18:50 AM
Anyone who thinks Henderson is one of the worst players in the NBA is an idiot plain and simple. Keep the college rival crap in the college basketball blogs.
Posted by: Pappa Panther | Feb 24, 2011 9:12:44 AM
the bobcats are coming alone just find their playing well leave them as they are
leave them the hell alone for now.
Posted by: terry | Feb 24, 2011 9:48:22 AM
Really tired of people that think Wallace is a "Star". He's nothing more than a very good player that plays hard every night. The fact that he's one of our best players says alot to the state of our roster. We have no "stars". Wallace is a slasher, and very good defensive player. He isn't untradable. But to trade him just for cap room probably wouldn't be wise. Charlotte clearing space like NY did isn't going to work out the same....Unless you think you have a chance at CP3 since this is his hometown team. With CP3, you could lure another big name to come in and play with him. As long as Diop and Nazr are on the books, it's going to take a while to build without going over the luxery tax. We need to make sure we hit on some draft picks in that 15-20 range so we can build our depth.
Posted by: DaveT | Feb 24, 2011 10:14:49 AM
GW rumors are just that: rumors. Over-blown. Just come out of nowhere.
Stellar reporting, once again.
Posted by: Rick's Mustache | Feb 24, 2011 10:14:50 AM
i can assure you jordan knows what he's doing a lot more than the goons on here that are saying the cats should trade wallace for outlaw. so much more to it than "trade him for a young guy" and whatever else you are blabbing. outlaw just signed a 5 yr 35M contract in the summer. that would put the cats in an even bigger whole and cripple future building. learn more and research more before you make stupid suggestions about how you could do it better....and to the posting goon that said henderson is undersized > really? 6-4? umm, wade 6-4, kobe 6-6, ginobli 6-6, ellis 6-3...all SG's; seems about right to me. and that is not comparing scoring or any other stat, you just said he was undersized. there is a reason hendo gets matched up against the other teams scorer; defense is a commodity in the nba but i wouldnt expect someone that says trade wallace for outlaw to know that
Posted by: cltwdr | Feb 24, 2011 10:19:15 AM
PLEASE LEAVE THE BOBCATS ALONE. I am a huge fan. GW always plays hard for a win or even a loss. Trading him now would be a big mistake. Then you're talking about trading him for some LOSERS!!! They are has beens. Leave well enough along until the off season. If you want to lose someone get rid of Naz and Diop.
Posted by: Lady B | Feb 24, 2011 10:39:13 AM
In The Spirit of Such Players as Gerald Henderson...I Think CLT can explore Grabbing Players Terrence Williams or Mikael Pietrus, Ronnie Brewer (all rusting on their current team)...Young Players Who Can Easily Switch Between SG/SF (Jus Like Jackson/Wallace)...with Jackson (age, reputation and ability to help a contender: LAKERS/MAVS) being the bait
Posted by: Focuslja | Feb 24, 2011 10:50:23 AM
Bonnell is the kisss of death.....Wallace did goto Portland for Prz and draft picks.
Posted by: Andy | Feb 24, 2011 3:33:23 PM
Wow Jordan, you better give us some answers. Is it the "small market" teams trying to compete with the big market teams by trading away big deals to clear way for the superstars (Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard) in 2012? Tell me Tyrus Thomas with his 5 yr 40M was worth it. Terrible long term investment. Jackson only has a couple years on his deal but he isn't better than Wallace. Nazr and Diop's deal are killing the Bobcats. Bobcats going for broke or getting ready to rebuild, hmmm
Posted by: ep23 | Feb 24, 2011 3:43:16 PM
Your "sources" were clueless. Much like the Bobcats front office. Wallace is gone for cap space. Unbelievable. Plus the Bobcats have been lying to their fans non stop. Saying nobody will be traded, and that if there is a move they'll only do it if the team improves. BULLSH!T.
Posted by: BSbobcats | Feb 24, 2011 3:46:39 PM
Posted by: TheRabbitGottheGun | Feb 24, 2011 4:06:39 PM
Egg meet face. Great source Bonnell.
Posted by: Kris | Feb 24, 2011 4:19:53 PM
Posted by: sevorg | Feb 24, 2011 5:09:40 PM
Dammit Observer, I trusted you.
Posted by: Ryan Vest | Feb 24, 2011 6:16:48 PM
wow, Bonnell - you're a clown. Maybe my 5 year old daughter can have your job - she at least knows as much about the NBA as you do, apparently..
Posted by: Vic The Appraiser | Feb 24, 2011 9:21:53 PM
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