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April 14, 2011

Jackson on Larry Brown's negativity

Remarkably candid quotes by Charlotte Bobcats captain Stephen Jackson on how ex-coach Larry Brown lost the team with his negativity in the preseason:

“When I had my beginning-of-the-season meeting, he basically told me we weren’t going to be good, that we weren’t going to be a playoff team. You know me, I’m not going to accept that from anyone – telling me before we even get to see what happens that we aren’t going to be any good. He lost me there.

 "The captain of your ship being unconfident in his abilities and the team’s abilities, before you even get a chance to play – that kills everything.’’

Posted by Observer Sports on April 14, 2011 at 02:14 PM | Permalink

Comments

Maybe it was just Larry's way of getting one of his Captain's to rally the tropps with a "we'll show him attitude". I realize that would be far too much of a stretch for Jackson to look beyond the words. Jackson decided to use it as a means for getting rid of LB so he wouldn't have to play defense and pass or as the t-shirt the Bobcats handed out two seasons ago says "Play the Right Way".

Posted by: Bob | Apr 14, 2011 2:29:22 PM

How we have run off Larry Brown and Gerald Wallace but kept Stephen Jackson is beyond me.

Posted by: GoBobs | Apr 14, 2011 2:32:26 PM

The Checkers are much more entertaining. Playoff hockey is in the QC!!!

Posted by: Caniac Jack | Apr 14, 2011 2:41:19 PM

I think he was not the right color for Jordan. Jordan wanted a black coach.

Posted by: Tyleeka | Apr 14, 2011 2:50:10 PM

He was right! The bobcant's are not a playoff caliber team. Amazing how the experienced coach knew the team was bad without even having to endure a single game first. Probably not the best way to motivate the team, but hey, isn't that what the MILLIONS of dollars are for? Whatever, blame Larry Brown if it makes you feel better.

Posted by: Mike | Apr 14, 2011 2:50:27 PM

Well....are they in the playoffs? Looks like the Coach was right! Must have hurt the thug, Jasckson's, feelings.

Posted by: Jason | Apr 14, 2011 2:54:09 PM

The beginning of the end was last summer when MJ wouldn't resign Felton (the team's glue) and wouldn't add another quality player (free agent) to the roster. Make those two moves and you have a 50 win team and the arena is hopping all season.

Larry and his staff came in and resurrected a complete disaster, taking a team that was UNWATCHABLE in 2008 to the playoffs in 2010. Who was responsible for putting together that unwatchable team? That would be MJ and Rod Higgins.

What a joke to blame Larry Brown for this mess.

Posted by: drfritz | Apr 14, 2011 3:00:49 PM

Here we go. Racism is alive and well. Larry and Mike were the best of friends. If it were not for Mike, Larry would not have been here. Maybe if it were not for some of the loses before the Black Coach took over, the Bobcats would have been in the playoffs. Reverse psychology is not the way to go at the pro level.

Posted by: Charles | Apr 14, 2011 3:14:39 PM

Larry Brown: 9-19
Paul Silas: 25-29

And thats with no Gerald Wallace and fighting the injury bug at the end of the year. 48-34 Next year!

Posted by: Nick | Apr 14, 2011 3:30:59 PM

drfritz - they tried to re-sign Felton. he took less $$ to go to NY.

Posted by: steve | Apr 14, 2011 3:35:50 PM

The guy tells you that Larry Brown was giving up on the season before it starts and you try to defend the coach? That is ludicrous. Remember when he could not even decide if he wanted to come back? Larry was the problem from the beginning. It is clear he was also behind alot of the bad moves. When the team woukd not let him make any more of his trades that mortgage the future he went in the tank.

Posted by: Gary | Apr 14, 2011 3:38:04 PM

I see drfritz is leading the charge of the UNC-CH shills today, spewing their typical bullcrap about Raymond Felton being the best PG that ever lived. MJ was very smart to not pay what the Knicks paid for an average PG that got shredded for 192 minutes of the playoff series last year. Tell you what, drfritz, if the Nuggets win the title, I'll admit you are right. (WARNING: Holding your breath could be hazardous to your health.)

Also, let's not forget that LB thought Gerald Henderson was completely useless. A Hall of Fame coach? Yes? Always right? Not at all.

And to elaborate on Nick's point - until game 64, when Tyrus and Jack were lost for good, Silas was 23-23 with Larry Brown's 9-19 team, and that 23-23 includes a month without Crash and with only 1 true center on the roster.

If our injured players come back healthy next year, and the 2 draft picks produce a legit scorer and post presence, then we're back in the playoffs next year and in good position to get CP3 next summer.

Posted by: J | Apr 14, 2011 3:42:35 PM

Its over let it go! Any team that hires LB as a head coach is crazy right about now!
If MJ wants to hire a black coach SO BE IT!!! You good ole boys have done it for years especially in corporate America! As Fox would say, it is what it is!!!!! Its Jordan's team! Deal with it!
LOL

Posted by: big daddy | Apr 14, 2011 4:07:13 PM

Larry Brown is toxic to any basketball organization....Paul Silas is sunshine!

Next year will be much better for the Bobcats....please NBA ....no lockouts!

Posted by: Scott Silverstein | Apr 14, 2011 4:30:47 PM

Paul Silas > Larry Brown.
Our team has gotten a lot better since Silas came in.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14, 2011 4:38:05 PM

Brown can do no wrong according to some folks. Jack was just telling it like it is and how he lost the team...and you attack the player?

Posted by: Lamont | Apr 14, 2011 4:50:10 PM

The only ones supporting the LB move are Carolina Alums. Yes, I went there, and I am by no means supporting him. LB gave the Bobcats organization the ONLY winning season in its 7 year history, so let's not also throw him under the bus either and give him his due for his hard work. BUT, LB clearly because a liability to the Bobcats organization this season, and it all started with this wishy-washy move on whether he wanted to come back to coach. Instead of calling Summer meetings with the players and training/conditioning them, LB played golf with MJ, spent time with his family (not saying I don't support that), and kept wallowing on his decision. No time was spent on conditioning his players, and the Bobcats' came in fat, lazy and bloated. Just look at Diaw, Jack and Crash....all of their stats dropped from the onset of the season compared to last season.

Then, you have LB complaining about the Felton move, and made it public that the move to let Felton go literally "killed" him. Really? If I was the next PG, I'd be pi$$ed at that reason. LB never gave credit to DJ nor did he ever had any trust in his abilities. Just look at the way DJ played under LB...timid, scared sh*tless, and ineffective! LB also NEVER played any of his young players. He kept saying they are NOT ready...how can they not be ready? They've been sitting on the bench for him for 2 full seasons! They're not ready in his mind because he never conditioned them nor saw their abilities.

Since Silas came on board, Kwame, DJ and Hendo have all developed into respectable starters, and the sky is still the limit for them. If LB was still at helm, all 3 would have been traded and given away for literally NOTHING in return. Just look at the Shannon Brown, Jared Dudley, and Ryan Hollis/Ajinca trades. While non would be considered bonafide starters, they are all playing MUCH better and are important role players for the teams they are in now!

Point is this: Silas gets the BEST out of what he is given....LB just complains about everything and will ONLY coach his team if the pieces are within his liking. Bobcats and Silas are a great fit with a promising future...LB and the Bobcats are dead on arrival!

Posted by: KYL | Apr 14, 2011 4:56:01 PM

The crowd has gotten a lot better since Paul Silas too. You can feel it all through the arena.

Posted by: long | Apr 14, 2011 4:59:50 PM

If "if's and but's were candy and nuts, everyday would be Christmas!

Posted by: just a. thought | Apr 14, 2011 5:03:06 PM

The beginning of this season was the best coaching stint of Larry Brown's career after the NY debacle. Yes, LB was wrong, he went 9-19 with a better team than the one Silas got. Also, LB had the easy part of the Bobcats schedule, the 2nd half of the season was by far one of the toughest schedules in the NBA and Silas 4 games below .500, even after the GW trade and all the injuries. Do the math, Silas from the beginning would have meant playoffs for the Bobcats. We would've won 38-42 games worst case scenario. That would've been enough for one o the last 3 seeds in the East.

Also, the ONLY REASON why Felton is not a BOBCAT, is because HE DIDN'T wanted to. He rejected a $35M/5Yrs deal with the Cats and instead sign a $15M/2Yrs with the Knicks. When you add the Tax effect and cost of living, that is about 20-25% less money. He knew that was such a big mistake that he fired his agent after that. SO PLEASE STOP BASHING MJ ON NOT RESIGNING FELTON.

And I love how people talk about how MJ should have sign a quality player and or resign Felton, etc, etc, etc. Don't you know that NBA have Salary rules? This is not the MLB, you can not just go and sign players just because you have a lot of money. It is not that easy. Why do you think Miami got rid of everyone to sign their big three. Don't you think that they would generate enough money with those three guys anyways? But it doesn't work like that, there are rules and the Bobcats were financially strapped, big time. At least now, after the GW trade, they do have some financial flexibility and some picks they can use top try and upgrade the team. In other words, it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for the Cats to make moves, other than the MLE, it was not by choice, there was no other options. And yes you can blame it on all the bad decisions in the past, but that was already done.

Posted by: TARHEEL FAN!!! | Apr 14, 2011 5:04:26 PM

Note to all junior hockey league fans go blog on their news articles. I for one don't care about hockey, and don't go on their sites to spew my dislike for their sport. Go away! More importantly LB killed our season, but it may have been for the better. We will be better next season with out a doubt, MJ is all in for success. He said it himself at the town hall meeting before the Hawks game. I 100% believe he will get it done.

Posted by: easye | Apr 14, 2011 5:07:54 PM

“When I had my beginning-of-the-season meeting, he basically told me we weren’t going to be good, that we weren’t going to be a playoff team. You know me, I’m not going to accept that from anyone – telling me before we even get to see what happens that we aren’t going to be any good. He lost me there.
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Uh, regardless of whether you accepted it, or whether he "lost" you there, Larry Brown was right.

Posted by: Rex Kwando | Apr 14, 2011 5:10:59 PM

I'll start out saying I'm a Tarheel fan....I have liked what LB has done in his career. He helped the Bobcats reach the playoffs. But he did lose this team, as well as me. All you heard was him complaining, a mono-tone voice. I really think he wanted MJ to get rid of him or let him walk to another team after last season. But MJ stuck to his guns and would have asked for compensation for releasing LB to another team.
As far as the black coach thing, don't be ignorant. I wanted them to look at Silas when they went for Sam Vincent. Silas is a great coach that can get the most out of his players. I'm not sure he'll get a team to the NBA finals or not, x's and o's aren't his greatest strength. But a team that plays together and can trust each other will go much farther than a team that isn't on the same page with each other or the coach.

Posted by: DaveT | Apr 14, 2011 5:29:47 PM

Remember when Larry Brown came into town prior to the draft, to work out prospects? Remember how crappy his attitude was then?? He CLEARLY did not want to be here. If I had been Jordan, and saw that crap, I would have fired him right then. I manage executives, and I've seen that before in someone who wasn't getting their way, was miserable, or wanted out. Had Jordan taken care of business then, found a coach (perhaps still Silas) to lead the team from the first practice, we would likely have made the playoffs. Still, the team had to shed money for the future, as we were never going to rise to anything above a 6th seed for the forseeable future. LB was conflicted between his home life (being away from his hottie young wife and kids) and the loss of key players (particularly Felton, who he was very close to).

Posted by: Bassman | Apr 14, 2011 5:31:17 PM

Ever feel like losing brain cells, feeling dumb or just plain digressing at any phase of life? Ever want to waste countless seconds and minutes doing absolutely nothing productive whatsoever? Well then be sure to read comments sections from any article on the CObserver regarding duke, unc, panthers, and bobcats. And then if you haven't had your fill, join facebook.

Go Bobcats.

Posted by: dumber | Apr 14, 2011 6:06:16 PM

LOL @dumber I totally agree

Posted by: therealJD | Apr 14, 2011 6:29:03 PM

IT'S EASY

You know that Bobcats could've, should've, might've, would've probably did but didn't it's possible but didn't you know that there are rules in place that have kept us losing for seven years but in the future we might do but maybe not and then we manipulate this and turn left and doesee doe and flip and talk and get into shape and avoid injuries and sweet talk and maybe we can get up the luxury tax and sign players and play hard every night and box out and not get technicals and leverage our assets and cash and DRAFT WELL (for a change) and get a good schedule and MAKE THE PLAYOFFS with an 8th seed next year (like last year with LB).

Posted by: Sean Felton | Apr 14, 2011 6:31:44 PM

Rick,

Did you actually do a blog post using Diaw and Exercise together in the headline?

Posted by: Jim May | Apr 14, 2011 6:34:20 PM

MJ failed to improve the roster for LB. Instead he let Chandler, Felton leave then he screwed Silas' playoff chances by trading Wallace. It's sad that our two pro owners in Charlotte simply can't afford to be major players in their leagues.

Posted by: chris in union county | Apr 14, 2011 6:43:58 PM

LB will never be the NBA coach Paul Silas is. Paul is smooth like butter!

Posted by: spanky | Apr 14, 2011 8:31:56 PM

Maybe there is a reason Larry Brown never stayed in one place long. He likes building but then he attacks what he built. A dysfunctional long term boss

Posted by: Jon | Apr 14, 2011 9:00:32 PM

Kwame, henderson n dj wer so much better that brown was truly an idiot for not seeing their potential and immediate improvement after his exit...he housed a way better team than silas ever had .. He will never coach again and was burned out after leaving det.

Anything in support of him pales in comparison to what he failed in doing... Ther is absolutely no question that w silas they wud be a 6 th seed and good.. Felton wud stiil be here had silas been the coach ..he wasnt fond of brown if u speak to him privately .. Then this team gets out the first round... Crash wud still be here but he wud have to play pf to allow henderson to develop w jax t sf. W a deep bench.. Again , brown was an idiot and some of these posts are right on ...

Posted by: Ironman | Apr 14, 2011 9:51:03 PM

But, Ironman, who hired LB? Come on...Didn't you hear all the fans holler for Silas before Sam Vincent was hired? Everything finally comes around; it just takes years and years and years.

Posted by: Terry Roberts | Apr 14, 2011 10:21:02 PM

stephen jackson and I are going down to the rest home larry brown lives in and were going to spit in his oatmeal when he's not looking.

Posted by: joe cool | Apr 14, 2011 11:45:25 PM

TYLEEKA? "he wanted a black coach"? That is some funny ish right there! I like Jack, but I have to ask, why now? The season is over, Brown has been replaced. This would have been compelling when Brown "resigned". At this point it sounds like bashing. Brown, has a right to his opininon just like everyone else. Actually what he "alledgedly" said was the truth. Coming in to this season the team didn't look playoff caliber. Also you lose a very important component, Felton and not fill his shoes with an equal or better person, what do you expect. Add immature players, players with thin skin, whining and nobody on the team restoring order it is what it is. If Jack lost respect for Brown and his plan was to show him he was wrong, he did a piss poor job of it. Shut up, train, anger management and to some team building.

Posted by: digal704 | Apr 15, 2011 8:27:29 AM

To all the individuals who keep saying that the Bobcats tried to sign Felton, you lie. For the umpteenth time, last summer the Bobcats DID NOT make him an offer, period! The year before they made him a offer. He wanted long term, apparently their offer was not. He signed for, I think 5mil which was what he could get for 1 season. While he may not have been the "best" point guard you think he should have been, he sure isn't the worst. He is a leader, has good character and a great work ethic. I heard him several times take the blame for crap on that team. Heard Jack do it once this year and never heard Wallace. Everyone has a right to their opinion. When you form one at least have the correct information.

Posted by: digal704 | Apr 15, 2011 8:43:29 AM

digal704

Please do not post to this blog anymore you make far too much sense:) your upsetting the people who have taken the Kool-Aid and live in Jordantown.

Posted by: Bob | Apr 15, 2011 9:31:26 AM

I think the Brown comments are coming from the fact that MJ has been making them publicly recently. Now, everyone feels freer to share their thoughts. I was pretty surprised by how candid he was at the town hall meeting in that regard. Brown apparently was trying to trade everybody who has shown up for the team this season.

I think it also has a lot to do with how G. Wallace played early in the season. Something was clearly off and I think that was it.

That said, I think a lot of the players learned good playmaking and fundamentals from LB.

Posted by: long | Apr 15, 2011 12:30:08 PM

Long

It might have impacted G-Force play early on, however I believe G-Force wasn't thrilled with having a less than model player like Jackson as Co-Captain. It was clear to me that the Felton-Wallace Co-Captain relationship was far better because they are both warriors and true leaders.

Posted by: Bob | Apr 15, 2011 1:24:35 PM

Bob. You must have long arms because you can really reach.

Posted by: Gary | Apr 16, 2011 7:57:01 AM

Drink the kool-aid Gary and everything will be ok.

Posted by: Bob | Apr 18, 2011 12:41:26 PM

I would rather drink Koolaid instead of Haterade.

Posted by: Gary | Apr 18, 2011 9:49:17 PM

It's called Realistade

Posted by: Bob | Apr 19, 2011 9:40:47 AM

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