November 14, 2011
Kemba Walker on the lockout
Interesting tweet tonight from Charlotte Bobcats draftee Kemba Walker about a lockout that could now cancel the entire 2011-12 season:
Posted by Observer Sports on November 14, 2011 at 09:56 PM | Permalink
If Walkers deal with Under Armour can't keep him afloat until next season there is something seriously wrong with him. Atleast this will help Biyombo. One less year on his Spanish contract that will make the buy out much easier. He should go ahead and go on over there and play.
Posted by: Jason Warren | Nov 15, 2011 12:46:13 AM
Speaking of drafted players, how will they determine the draft order for next season if there is no season this year?
Posted by: SCJames | Nov 15, 2011 1:24:45 AM
Time to dvr that which I hate; college ball. I still have cats vs hawks & bets from april. The owners have gotten a 3 billion dollar raise and it's still not enough for them. It's disgusting.
Posted by: Altheus | Nov 15, 2011 1:39:49 AM
Rookies are another casualty of this ridiculous situation.
Posted by: What? | Nov 15, 2011 5:24:38 AM
I just have to say, I think the NBA will lose alot of fans. I bought season tickets to the Bobcats this year, not only to see them play, but to see all the teams that come through. I am highly disappointed and would never buy them again. And I am sure there are more fans out there just like me.
Posted by: Cindy | Nov 15, 2011 7:40:40 AM
Altheus - Players are more to blame IMO. They didn't want to negotiate. Where were their counter proposals? NBA players were way over paid and had far too much leverage. Yes, the owners may of "bullied" them, but can't blame them after a lot of the crap that went on with guys like LeBron, Carmelo, etc screwing them over and forcing their way out of their current teams.
Posted by: PantherDave | Nov 15, 2011 7:46:41 AM
The players were the only side that gave in. Under the old CBA they made 57% BRI They agreed to 52%, the owners still weren't happy. The players agreed to 50% but they wanted some of the system issues fixed. The owners especially Michael Jordan were not having it. LeBron and Carmelo played out their contracts. They played hard and made their "owners" lots of money.
Posted by: Erica | Nov 15, 2011 8:04:41 AM
The players are 100% to blame. Without competitive balance across the league, basketball is dead. If the players can't understand that, let them work a regular job like everyone else. They have no "right" to make millions of dollars playing a game.
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 15, 2011 9:47:18 AM
Jeff is right - NBA is going down a dead end, one way street unless they make it more competitive like the NFL. I am sure the NBA would love to follow the NFL model and that is what they are really trying to get. Maybe a year or two without BB will get them there!
Posted by: Dirt | Nov 15, 2011 10:01:25 AM
Rick, I heard you say on WBT that you think the players have done all the negotiation and been bullied by the owners. If you had ever tried to run a business, taken all the risk, signed all the contracts, don't all the marketing and then lost a ton of money, you'd have a different viewpoint. Players have no risk...they can drink and stay up all night, come to the arena hung over, play like crap, lose by 30 and still get their check. The old deal of guaranteed money with the major markets being able to dominate the league was a ridiculous deal. When the NBA is fresh and new (OK City), it makes money. But the product is tired and mechanical...calling it a sport is charitable. It is closer to a circus or state fair or Cirque de Soliel event than a sporting event. The players could care less...really...as long as the checks keep flowing. And, you haven't said a word about the Jerry Maquire agents who's compensation is tied to the player's pay. They are the ones giving the players very, very bad advice. Goodwill is escaping like a punctured balloon as we speak.
Posted by: Ralph Sampson | Nov 15, 2011 10:09:01 AM
players are to blame in that they are the worst negotiators in the history of life. their lawyers and billy hunter should all be fired. they have completely botched this whole situation up.
the owners already had a 5% swing coming their way and they were worried about a few other details and that last % point. that's where it's on them ENTIRELY. there was a deal to be made, they broke the players and they could have walked away with a full season at 48/52. now, maybe they get the 50-51% they wanted, but the pie is going to be so much smaller, their players are going to be underdeveloped, they missed out on this entire years possibility of profit at a rate 5% higher than last year.
any nba owner losing money is due to extenuating circumstances or they are horrible managers of the business of the club. and the ones with extenuating circumstances is ALWAYS temporary. you look at the sacramentos the charlottes the new jersey's, etc. all of them have been profitable at some stretch during the last 20 years. and BIG profits in most cases. the reason they are losing money is on them. they could divide it 60/40 and the cream will still rise to the top and smart business men like the ones in indiana and okc are STILL GOING TO PROFIT.
nobody wins in this lockout more than jordan. he gets 1 year off of biyombo's contract, hypothetically gets ANOTHER high draft pick (pray that it's harrison barnes) to rebuild with, he gets to erase a year from the horrible contracts of diop and carroll and have them as expiring contracts next summer to hopefully use as bait to move up in the draft to get barnes, he'll get najera and diaw off the books, he'll get one year free pass on the overpaying of tyrus thomas, he gets to erase a year of stats and achievements from the lebrons, kobe's, dwade's, etc. (the competitor in him), gets to spend more time on the golf course and gambling.......and then to top it all off, they're going to be getting atleast 5% back off the previous deal PLUS more revenue sharing for teams like his.
nobody wins in this more than jordan.
the only thing that will hurt the bobcats is.....the fact that diaw won't get his contract year to prove his worth so we won't get a chance to use that asset to help in the rebuild. this will completely stunt the development of both henderson and augustin and by the time we get back to basketball, they will probably be leapfrogged by a new addition or rookie who probably aren't any better, just higher paid or NEWER (which is code for better).
meanwhile, k.c. rivers WHO SHOULD BE IN THE NBA, is out in europe on the same team as primoz brezec. hilarious.
Posted by: charlottean | Nov 15, 2011 10:31:02 AM
It's "couldn't care less"
Posted by: Ripp | Nov 15, 2011 10:36:56 AM
If teams are losing money and some teams can't compete maybe the league has too many teams. The NBA is badly managed or dare we say GREEDY! Michael Jordan purchased a team that was losing lots of money. Now you want to switch the rules. They want to call the players greedy and selfish. The LeBrons and Kobes should leave. Lets see how profitable the no names will be.
Posted by: Erica | Nov 15, 2011 10:38:39 AM
If the stars leave, the next guy up becomes a star.
Posted by: Sportsdon | Nov 15, 2011 10:58:40 AM
Erica, let's see how profitable the tall, very quick, high jumping, good dribbling and good shooting roundballers are with no one to promote them, organize them, set the rules, sell the tickets, pay the coaches, take all the risks and, in general, create a no-lose environment for them to just play a game that 99% of guys who were not born naturally gifted really enjoy playing for free. I play regularly and have never made a cent...in fact I have to pay "rent" to get access to a gym. Millions of guys not quite naturally blessed (can't jump as high or weren't born as quick) play regularly for free. Players are asked to do very little...show up and play. Some nights they do; some nights they don't. Without the NBA, most basketball players would still be out there looking for a game...it's a fun game. To take a hard line on the extra couple of percentage points is stupid...but, again, we are dealing with high jumpers and good shooters...not business people. Good luck to them in Israel or Denmark in the European league...should be fun.
Posted by: Pacer Delet Shrimp | Nov 15, 2011 11:03:35 AM
Bottom line here is this:
> The NBA is losing money. Both the owners (who opened their books) and the players union who examined them (per Billy Hunter's own statement) agree.
> The revenue changes are only part of the solution. The league is concerned about competitive imbalance, as it hurts the league to have 3 or 4 mega franchises with 20+ teams never having a chance to compete. This situation has been made 10X worse by player and agent manipulation forcing trades into these preferred destinations. The STRUCTURE of the league must change to make it healthy for all members of the franchise.
The players are being led by their "1 percenters", the Wade/James gang, and their disgusting agents who only want to maximize their take from the pot. Stern told them what would happen if they disbanded, so let it be. Cancel all contracts, start from scratch, and wait them out. The players will get whipped in the courts and return with their hat in their hand to a worse contract than the one just offered. LESSON LEARNED big shots...
Posted by: Bassman | Nov 15, 2011 11:26:01 AM
the bible says what will it profit a man gain the whole world in lose his soul just remember money cant buy you way into heaven give the fans what we paid for and play ball
Posted by: leon | Nov 17, 2011 12:40:42 AM
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