February 13, 2012
Collins: Bobcats losses must be brutal on Jordan
Doug Collins coached Michael Jordan with the Chicago Bulls and coached for Jordan when Jordan ran the Washington Wizards’ front office.
So now-Philadelphia 76ers coach Collins knows well as anyone what drives Jordan, owner of the Charlotte Bobcats. Collins volunteered Monday morning that a 14-game losing streak must be brutal on a man of Jordan’s makeup.
“The No. 1 thing for him is compete every single moment. I’m sure that’s the message he’s trying to send to this franchise: ‘We do have some young pieces, we’ve had some injuries, but you have to compete every single moment.’ ’’
Collins has a tie to the worst team in NBA history – the nine-win ’72-73 Sixers. They used the resulting No. 1 overall pick to draft Collins.
“To go 9-73, I can’t even fathom it,’’ said Collins. “You lose two or three games in this league and you feel like you’ll never win again.’’
Collins said he felt extra pressure his rookie season, since Philadelphia bore such scars from the preceding season. That dynamic was amplified by a preseason injury.
Collins eventually re-fractured his foot and played just 25 games his rookie season.“ ‘That (next) summer I was so driven to come back and say, ‘I hope they know that’s not the player they’re getting.’ That was very motivating,’’ said Collins, who finished a three-time All-Star over an eight-season career.
Posted by Charlotte Observer on February 13, 2012 at 03:27 PM | Permalink
I was supposed to have chicken for dinner tonight
Posted by: Russ Pendersen | Feb 13, 2012 4:20:58 PM
been nothing but a loser since he stepped off the court.
and is actually quite a jerk....see the HOF speech if you need any evidence.
Posted by: big gulps | Feb 13, 2012 4:23:09 PM
I would use the Number 1 Pick as trade Bait, nobody in this draft can change your fortunes but you could get a mid level All-star for the pick...
Posted by: Robert | Feb 13, 2012 4:28:46 PM
Who the hell are the Bobcats?
Posted by: Dr Claw | Feb 13, 2012 4:55:00 PM
@big gulps So you are just around him like that? How is he with his kids? Does he use paper or plastic? Does he prefer crunchy or smooth peanut butter? You don't know him. You don't know how he acts. As for his HOF speech the keyword is "his." You don't become the greatest at anything without erking some people, but to just say he is a jerk like you have dealings with him everyday is absurd. And as far as losing I'm sure his bank account beats your bank account so he is winning at something.
Posted by: Just A. Fan | Feb 13, 2012 5:01:06 PM
Just a Fan:
So you know? Tell us if you are buddies with him. Tell us the best thing he has done as an NBA executive. Tell us how - outside of Hanes Commercials and endorsements he has been so extraordinarily successful off the court. We don't know. We never see him. He never talks to the fans. He never shares his plans. He lives here, but he really doesn't. Jeremy Lin said he idolized Michael Jordan. So, with all the brain trust at the Bobcats, why didn't they find Lin? The great evaluators of talent. Did they watch Moneyball? Or, are we just trying to do the same stuff as everybody else with less money and a less attractive NBA market. Tell us....what great moves gives the fan base warm and fuzzy feelings that Air Jordan will take the Bobcats to at least the level we could expect virtually every year when the Hornets were in town.
Posted by: Bobcats Fan | Feb 13, 2012 5:50:23 PM
Pretty lousy source...just the NY Times' opinion.
Posted by: Paul Pierce | Feb 13, 2012 5:55:02 PM
I hope they don't win an other game this season! Watching Jordan sit court side watching Bobcats get beat by twenty every night is a blessing! He is so stupid he actually thinks his future gold digging ex wife sitting next to him actually loves him! I can forgive him for putting this garbage on the court but won't forgive him for letting a woman clean him out again!
Posted by: joe cool | Feb 13, 2012 6:05:33 PM
Rick, how come the fans of Charlotte were never updated about the cats declining the wizards trade request? For those who didn't know, Washington offered to trade Andray Blatche for Tyrus Thomas. Both with similar contracts and I kind of liked this deal. Please inform me.
Posted by: JamesDixon | Feb 13, 2012 6:30:10 PM
With all due respect,I reported weeks ago the Bobcats turned down a Thomas-for-Blatche trade. I think I was the first to report the Bobcats and Wizards had even talked.
Posted by: rick bonnell | Feb 13, 2012 6:35:45 PM
Funny stuff fellas!
But to Bobcat Fan's point, why doesn't Air Minimum ever say anything? It's like he's mute or something.
I think he's scared, very scared that this so-called "plan" is a gamble that has failed. If he speaks up people are going to try to pin him down on some specifics going forward, and he doesn't have the answers...
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 13, 2012 6:41:26 PM
From my observations in Jan. 17 Charlotte Observer:
The Bobcats had a discussion with the Washington Wizards concerning big man Andray Blatche, who is available in a trade. An informed source said the Bobcats will pass on that option.
Blatche is owed three more seasons at an average salary of about $7.7 million.
Posted by: rick bonnell | Feb 13, 2012 6:44:20 PM
I think mj cOuld start by wearing a grown ups hat I know it's in fashion but don't make it right
Posted by: Clttys | Feb 13, 2012 7:47:13 PM
Some of you people are morons. This is a 2-3 year plan. Shed some of these horrific contracts. Gain assets through the draft (or a star), and build in the mold of OKC.
Posted by: Jason Warren | Feb 13, 2012 7:50:29 PM
Most of this team- the one's with contracts that expire at the end of the season anyway- know that they are gone at the end so that aren't exactly motivated anyway. I know Jordan isn't running player decisions anymore- THANK GOD- but it isn't getting any better. They really should be thankful that they are playing in a strike shortened season. Otherwise, they could take the Sixers off of the hook for the worst record. I know they are going to blow the team all up, but I am so very glad that when I moved here I already had my NBA team in place. I feel really bad for the poor sales staff with the Bobcats.
Posted by: C.B. | Feb 13, 2012 8:08:50 PM
@Bobcats Fan Ohhhh!! So that's it. You want MJ to talk to you. He's the first owner in sports history that has never spoken to the media or the fans about his plans for the future. Every business mogul let's the public know exactly what's going on. And if one more person says "why didn't we know about Lin," I'm going to puke. NOBODY knew about Lin!! And five games don't make a guy an all star so I'll save my love for the Taiwanese cager when he's actually won something. Until then I'm going to ride with the guy who has a championship ring for each finger on one hand and a spare. If he fails to get the Bobcats to where the fans would like them to be than maybe a change will have to be made. But I'm not calling somebody a jerk that I don't know personally or have not been around for an extended period of time. Or would you rather have him come by your seat at the Cable Box and smile in you and the wife's face and blow smoke up your you know what. And in this day of social media sometimes silence is golden.
Posted by: Just A. Fan | Feb 13, 2012 8:43:43 PM
Anybody who wants andray blatche anywhere near their franchise doesnt want to win. We are losing, but we wont be soon because we have guys who give an eff. You start bringing in guys like blatche and we're bad forever. I draw the line at michael beasley and thats because he can consistently score and rebound and isnt a complete cancer. Blatche is overpaid to boot.
And robert you clearly don't know basketball. There are at least 3 clear cut franchise guys in this draft. There are franchise guys every year. Anthony davis is absolutely a franchise guy. He's like a mentally stable rasheed wallace or kevin garnett.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 13, 2012 8:55:39 PM
When did Charlotte get a NBA team? I must have missed that! Who Cares!!!!
Posted by: JCE | Feb 13, 2012 10:05:08 PM
How can someone say that a rebuilding plan failed during the middle of the first season? What a complete moron.
Posted by: Skip | Feb 13, 2012 10:53:21 PM
You are dead on Charlottean. If there ever a year to be in the mix for the first 3 picks this is it. Only an idiot would down play this draft.
Posted by: Draft Expert | Feb 13, 2012 10:57:57 PM
LOL. There goes Charlottean with his stupidity. Blatche is an upgrade over the frail, playing out of position, let me shoot this fadeaway jumper and miss all the time Thomas. He is a shell of what he had the potential to be. He has reached his peak and will not get any better.
Blatche still has room to grow and learn. But your right, I wouldn't want any player with the ability to be successful to be coached by this lousy staff.
They will do nothing but stifle his development.
Davis will be another skinny, playing out of position guy who brings nothing to table. They already have Biyombo who plays the four, is stronger, and is geared towards playing down low, in the paint.
Davis will be another Thomas. Shooting jumpers and avoiding the paint. lol
The draft will not help. It's a crapshoot, and to top it off, just look at the Bobcat's draft record over the last four years. lol. Turrible as Barkley would say.
So why are you hoping and dreaming to be bad? So they can maybe get a first pick, which they will blotch as usual?
Wake up. Silas and his staff need to go.
And is it any wonder why the Bobcats stink? Just LOOK AT JORDANS TRACK RECORD AS A MANAGER! LMAO!
Posted by: D.WG. | Feb 13, 2012 11:49:11 PM
Dam give the guy a break
Posted by: mrflamboyant | Feb 14, 2012 1:26:23 AM
Anthony Davis afraid of the paint? Watch a freaking game or shut up. The guy loves in the paint. Also, good to know ht can't any weight forthe rest of his life. He grew 8 inches in 2 years. The rest of his body will catch up. There is finally a consensus number one and you are too dumb to see it.
Posted by: Draft Expert | Feb 14, 2012 6:58:12 AM
My family has had season tickets since season 1. Every game we go to is 220.00 for 4 seats. We all deserve better than what we are getting. This team is like an expansion team. I do blame Jordan because we all know he makes all the decisions. Higgins and Cho are merely figureheads. He has traded away or given away darn near every decent player we had. He signed Tyrus Thomas aka Mr. Glass to a big contract and dude barely shows up to play. It's a shame. These guys are probably embarrassed and if they aren't they should be. DJ and Henderson, also another Mr Glass, won't make a difference when they come back either.
Posted by: Digal704 | Feb 14, 2012 7:51:55 AM
Chinese aiming to take over the NBA? Thats the insider word. Jordan ready to sell his laughable pos? A china man ripping Bryant causing jealous hate to surface from the NBA?
Posted by: cbs | Feb 14, 2012 7:57:43 AM
Fox's Whitlock too?
Posted by: cbs | Feb 14, 2012 8:13:31 AM
If mj is the most competitive guy,he would demand an offense where the bigs function in the paint most the time. This offense starts and ends w the bigs jacking shots from the perimeter.
The most basic plays are the tuffest to defend...the pick and roll. The cats start thers around the key and the pt gd keeps the ball never hitting the roller to the basket or passes it to a big that pops to the foul or higher who jacks a jumpshot.
Where are the cutters from the weak side that get the ball cutting to the rack. Where are the alley oops. Where are the low block pick and rolls involving bigs that pick and pass to each other. You have diaw that is a great passer and can see a cutter. You will see him utilized this way next yr. Where are the low block back screens.
Where are the low block curls. These plays , run near the paint involving the bigs for easy buckets should be a staple and regular diet. As the celtics do. The worse the talent, the more ,picks , curls , cuts etc shoukd be done from the low block so the bigs are not stuck outside jacking jump shots in the clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ironman | Feb 14, 2012 8:20:05 AM
Thomas will get run outta here. You guys are killing him and the only shot he can get is a jacked jump shot as he and brown and biz tho athletic, cant create shots for themselves.
Watch when they land on teams that run plays where the bigs pass to each other when they have dimished dish in the paint play from the pt gd position. Plays that start and end around or in the paint as the lakers and celtics do. Heck the spurs run the ucla offense but they hit cutters to the basket all game.
Plays that start near the low block that involve a two gd or sf and a big where the roller gets the ball!!!! This relies less on the overused tired set where the pt gd starts the offense w a high pick near the key.
The pt gd then gets a huge defender in his face, he cant see a roller and cant make a pass. The roller, never rolls but pops out for a poor percentage jumper from usually mullens or diaw. This is all we have in the clutch to win a game instead of some play that had freed a big in or near the paint to make biz, brown , mullens and even thomas scorers in the paint.
Give them some help coaching staff.
Posted by: Ironman | Feb 14, 2012 8:32:31 AM
I lived in Maryland and followed the Wizards when MJ worked in the Wizards' front office. He didn't do much there either.
Posted by: david | Feb 14, 2012 8:33:56 AM
Bye Bobcats, Your time as a NBA team has come to an end.
Posted by: Who Cares | Feb 14, 2012 9:04:41 AM
First off Mullens was amazing for 5 games also and he has gone stone cold so don't hype Lin just yet..
I knew it was going to be an ugly rebuild year and this draft is worth it if we get #1 thru 3 pick. Hell I would even trade DJ and Diaw and whoever else they want for any top 15 first round pick also.
Here is problem as I have been to every home game and this is theme without to many exceptions recently. They don't pass and even move once they come down the court. I mean watch it. One guy has ball and everyone stands around and watches. No seriously we have no movement.
Once we get draft picks and get rid of garbage bring back Curry to Clt in trade and spend the money. Kemba, Bismack, and gerald could be good with someone else to help and take some heat off.
Posted by: Chris | Feb 14, 2012 9:38:22 AM
Trade Diaw to the Lakers for their trade exception and their first round pick. Do it MJ, do it.
Posted by: Sambo | Feb 14, 2012 10:34:52 AM
They play well sometimes-like last night. However over the last three years since they made the play-offs they trade away every good player they have-Chandler,Felton,WALLACE, and Jackson. Can't win with out the good players. Management doesn't want to pay the price.The fans are great but I don't see much hope for this franchise based on the overall leadership.
Posted by: robert troup | Feb 14, 2012 10:40:03 AM
Re: the hall of fame speech. I loved it. There's nothing wrong with tooting your horn when you are the man!!!
Posted by: deepenwide | Feb 14, 2012 10:50:39 AM
go back and read the last page you commented on before you start calling people out. you consistently refer to this team as "not young" and cory higgins as a 3 year veteran.
1 - i know blatche is better than thomas. THAT i would say every day. but they are paid similarly (overpaid) and blatche is an absolute head case, a cancer to the locker room, the kind of guy that will be getting his stephon marbury on over in china after his contract is up. he's not winning any championships so why bring him in? thomas at least has good chemistry with this team to where if we decide not to amnesty him, he can contribute something without getting in the way. blatche would be demanding the ball unnecessarily and complaining about touches to the media afterwards. absolutely not worth it. you would know all of this if you knew anything about anything you speak about.
calling anthony davis frail is like saying jesus isn't famous. not to mention dude is 19. nobody is fully developed at 19 and he's listed at 6'10 220. bismack, who nobody would call frail is 6'9 229.
bismack will play the 5. if we draft davis, we have a perfect 3 man front court rotation of davis (19) biyombo (19) and mullens (22). you could have thomas or white as insurance and depth or a veteran playing on minimum.
then you have augustin/walker/henderson/williams/thomas/brown on the wing. that is a SOLID starting point especially since we would have another lottery pick (more than likely) the following year depending on where it falls if it has to go to chicago or if portland misses the playoffs next year. i think there is the outside chance we land 2 lottery picks which might turn into 1 solid young player.
we are 2 years out from being in a great situation.
watch how much this team changes when augustin comes back. they looked REALLY GOOD at times last night but like several have mentioned.....the ball didn't move at times. when they got up and down the floor in the 3rd quarter, they came back and cut it to what? 2? from like a 15 or 16 pt deficit?
we came up short in the end and there wasn't a whole lot of offense being played but in this case, I can't really blame walker because everything he threw up prior to that (in the 4th quarter) had gone in. Can't blame a guy for a heat check when his prayers are being answered that way. part of that it what got them to close the game. most of it though was maggette running the floor, williams running the floor, walker dishing to biyombo running the floor. i mean that was beautiful for like 8 minutes. it was a glimpse into what COULD be.
tough thing is......we are losing a lot of games so basically nobody that has been playing can justify their minutes, but everybody out of our young'ns is relatively deserving equally and now we have a major minutes crunch on our hands when d.j. and hendo get back in the next week or so.
i mean white got a dnp last night, you expect that he and higgins and thomas and probably even williams will teeter on that initially till they can figure out the right rotations. diop and najera will probably be inactive and carroll dnp also.
you can't play more than 10 guys and out of the 10 you got 3 guys that are hardly playing. augustin, henderson, maggette, walker, biyombo, mullens, diaw, are going to eat minutes leaving brown, williams, and thomas to get scraps and the other 5 to sit. you hate that for williams and brown and it sucks to look at thomas' 8 million a year for this year and 3 more sitting most of the game.
but if they continue to get out and run the floor and let guys like maggette and brown and biyombo and mullens finish on the break the way they did last night........we could make huge strides. that's how you take advantage of being young and athletic instead of letting it be your weakness.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 14, 2012 10:50:44 AM
Why would you talk to that idiot Charlottean? He is a complete clown.
Posted by: Skip | Feb 14, 2012 12:50:48 PM
you got people saying anthony davis looks frail, that cory higgins is a 3 year vet, that the team isn't young, that this is all paul silas' fault and i'm the one that you think is an idiot.
speaks more about yourself doesn't it.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 14, 2012 1:09:48 PM
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