February 16, 2012
Mark Cuban says if Jeremy Lin played in Charlotte, no one would know about him
New York Knicks guard Jeremy Lin. Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images
Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban is good for the NBA because he’s so unfiltered. You need someone that unorthodox to balance a room full of Brooks Brother’s suits at the owners meetings.
So I wasn’t surprised Cuban would tell ESPN of the Jeremy Lin phenomenon: “If it was happening in Charlotte, no one would know.’’
He’s wrong. The Harvard-educated, twice-cut, Asian-American Lin would be a national story the past two weeks whether he played in Sacramento, Portland or -- yes, even Charlotte. But, as Cuban was trying to say, it’s that much bigger because of the juice excelling in New York represents.
“New York is still kind of the mecca of the media for basketball,’’ Cuban added.
Of course it is, and of course the five newspapers that cover the Knicks rev up “Linsanity’’ daily. But Cuban disregards that Oklahoma City and Kevin Durant are on late-night television as much as David Letterman. He also disregards that if point guard Lin was putting up these numbers in Charlotte, the Bobcats would not be that team losing 16 straight.
No one thought Charlotte was an NBA outpost when the Hornets were annually setting home attendance records. Ancient history? Perhaps, but there’s nothing wrong with this basketball market that the right product wouldn’t fix.
Posted by Observer Sports on February 16, 2012 at 03:50 PM | Permalink
We have the right product. The fact is it takes time. The Panthers have NEVER in almost 20 years had back to back winning seasons. Yet nobody questions them. Relax, within three years this team will be a contender. Go Bobcats!
Posted by: Yummyumm | Feb 16, 2012 4:17:45 PM
key word right product.
Posted by: zach | Feb 16, 2012 4:17:47 PM
Posted by: anon | Feb 16, 2012 4:21:13 PM
The 50 million dollar brand new 1988 opening season at the grand massive expansive domed Teal and Purple Tyvola Coliseum that held 24,000 was a candidate for 8th wonder of the world sitting like a giant spaceship at the top of the 360 degree manicured wooded Hornet mountain just a couple miles from Charlotte Douglas Int'nal Jet Port.
featuring Kelly Tripuka, Kurt Rambis, Dell Curry, Mugsy Bogues, Rex Chapman, Dave Hoppen, Rickey Green, Earl Cureton, Stuart Gray and coach Dick Harter and owner George Shinn.
They went 20-62.
Packed house of 24,000 screaming fans for 5 straight years over 200 games still a league record.
Posted by: teal and green machine | Feb 16, 2012 4:24:22 PM
Lin is Asian and I think he would be getting noticed on any team in any city but the story gets bigger because it is New York. I am not being racist but only because he is not black is this making news. He is doing some nice things but so are a lot of players in their third season.
Posted by: bdubb | Feb 16, 2012 4:31:17 PM
I never thought I would say this! The Bobcats are so bad that I dream of George Shinn coming back! You built it! You watch it Air Jordan! I hope the Bobcats don't win one more game this year! It's a shame Cuban doesn't own the Bobcats, no one would know about him! What a DOUCHE!
Posted by: joe cool | Feb 16, 2012 4:34:04 PM
It's fun to dream right Rick?
The "right product" is impossible when you have an owner with no eye for talent, money he doesn't want to spend, and no commitment to winning.
I hope one day people, and Jordan, realize the belief that players will come here just because "it would be neat to play for Jordan" is about as real as unicorns and the tooth fairy. And...
**If Lin were here Charlotte would simply be known as the 3rd team that cut him, likely in favor of keeping Higgins' son.
Posted by: Frank | Feb 16, 2012 4:35:40 PM
I wish Mark Cuban would shut his pie hole. He does have a point though. People would know about J. Lin but only by NBA fans. It certainly would not be the national news story that it has become.
Posted by: Kevin | Feb 16, 2012 4:35:41 PM
I met Cuban in the VIP room at the old Forum about 5 years ago. He's like a frat boy who won the lottery.
Posted by: Chuck | Feb 16, 2012 4:37:30 PM
If our team looked like they wanted to be on the court playing basketball then that might create a buzz in Charlotte. I have tried on numerous occasions to watch our current team, and it is nothing short of painful. I see glimmers of a future in guys like Kemba, Bismack and G Henderson...but that is tempered by the sight of Diop dragging his 280lb frame up the court. Linsanity would be great if for no other reason than the fact that we would someone who wants to play basketball.
Posted by: AppGrad04 | Feb 16, 2012 4:42:39 PM
This team lost me when I saw Paul Silas fall asleep in the huddle at the Wizards game. I am not lying about this.
Posted by: Frank | Feb 16, 2012 4:43:43 PM
Lin would not be a name in Charlotte because he would never play in Charlotte. He would ride the bench in Charlotte because Silas felt the need to play this or that player over Lin because MJ said so.
Posted by: Dave | Feb 16, 2012 4:44:12 PM
No,the only person Charlotte would get excited about is someone named Billy Joe Jim Bob!
Posted by: TC | Feb 16, 2012 4:49:15 PM
I have to agree with one of the posters here. If Lin was in Charlotte with MJ as the owner yes this would have been the 3rd team that wouldve cut him!!!!
Posted by: Digusted! | Feb 16, 2012 4:49:30 PM
Frank stop lying!!!!! Silas was sleep in the huddle????? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHa
That says it all right there for me!!! LOL WOW
Posted by: Digusted! | Feb 16, 2012 4:50:46 PM
I'd rather have Cuban than Jordan any day. This is pathetic and getting worse by the game. The trades of GW and Jack were supposed to help us build for the future. Wow, this future sucks. Also, nice draft picks on Fatty May (13), Adam Morrison (3) and Ajinca (20).
Posted by: Drew S | Feb 16, 2012 4:51:29 PM
He would never play here. I am sure he is not a gifted raw athlete like ... oh, lets say Corey Higgins.
Lin is a basketball player. The league is not about basketball players. The league is about raw potential. Back when players played, the prodcut was watchable.
Seeing a lot of raw athleticism run fast and jump high is very exciting...every four years when I watch Olympic track and field. When watching the league, all I see is an emphasis on athleticism and dunking.
Lin, on the other hand, knows how to pass, dribble and shoot on the offensive end of the court. This is what makes him an anomaly, not that he is Asian or undrafted. There are dozens or hundreds of basketball players that are NBA quality, and some could be stars, but they are overlooked for the athletically gifted yet raw prospects...think 6'11' from France, 7' shot blocker, et al.
Lin's only chance at making this team, while astronomically remote (a new oxymoron), would be at the end of the rotation, and the GM's son gets to play in that little puddle.
Posted by: longermemory | Feb 16, 2012 4:55:05 PM
teal and green machine: You forget to state the fact that the only reason we stopped leading the league in attendence was because Detroit built the Palace which was bigger than the "Hive".
Posted by: DT | Feb 16, 2012 4:56:40 PM
Screw mark Cuban and the mavericks don't ever disrespect my bobcats again we in a rebuilding mode
Posted by: jerry | Feb 16, 2012 5:06:32 PM
Silas was probably praying....
Posted by: Keith | Feb 16, 2012 5:10:08 PM
the right product does not include Jordan's leadership.
Posted by: big gulps | Feb 16, 2012 5:41:06 PM
You know that name association game that gets played?
If Mark Cuban were playing and the moderator said...
...what would Cuban's response be?
There has to be a reason he chose to use Charlotte in that sentence, there were 29 other options.
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 16, 2012 5:48:34 PM
Chillax fellow Cats fans...we'll be fine. Remember OKC had the worst record just a few years ago..as did Chicago and Portland
BTW we do have the old Portlang GM Rich Cho so I have faith in his ability.
Lets NOT forget this was a very unusual off season with no camp or FA moves to be made. We'll get Davis in the draft and our young core will be set Kemba, Biz, Davis, Henderson and Thomas...bring in a few vets some role players and we could easily be 5th in the East in about 3 yrs..
I know patience can be a bad word in today's 'Right Now' sports society but NO team was built overnight...takes time, we'll be fine.
Posted by: Bobcat Terry | Feb 16, 2012 5:59:49 PM
Bobcat Terry, that are you expectations for DJ Augustin?
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 16, 2012 6:10:47 PM
-- what -- (not "that")
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 16, 2012 6:20:47 PM
Change the name to the Charlotte Flight and remove the stain that ole Bob Johnson left!
Seriously though, gotta give this team time to develop.
Posted by: Dook Sucks | Feb 16, 2012 6:47:08 PM
George Hanson. What are your expectations for DJ Augustine?
Posted by: Bobcat Tommy | Feb 16, 2012 6:56:27 PM
Someone else said it best... Cuban is a spoiled frat boy that just happened to win the lottery. Or maybe a pompous jerk. Take your pick.
Posted by: PantherDave | Feb 16, 2012 7:04:20 PM
George Shinn was good for Charlotte's NBA team. Ray Wooldridge & Mike Jordan are bad for Charlotte's NBA teams.
Posted by: Billyjimbobjoe | Feb 16, 2012 7:36:57 PM
Talent development has never been good with the Bobcats. I have lost track of how many players that have come to the Bobcats, leave and go to another team and accomplish way more than they did here. (Shannon Brown, Tyson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Jason Richardson, Jared Dudley, ...). If none of these guys became anything special here, what chance would Lin have had? So, in a way, Cuban's correct, although he probably didn't mean it this way.
Posted by: D | Feb 16, 2012 8:02:30 PM
cuban likes charlotte from what I know. At least he said so when i met him when they were in town playing the cats once.
he was making the statement about how big the media presence is in new york and how big the asian population is there and how big the story gets so fast because there are 20 million people into it immediately. you just can't compare new york to charlotte. charlotte loses every time.
he wasn't saying that it would be a non-story but that it wouldn't be as big as fast. nobody would be RAVING about the guy at this point and our fans damn sure wouldn't be packing the house to see him. ask walter herrmann how it worked out for him when he went on a tear at the end of the 06-07 season and barely spoke a word of english.
undrafted 27 year old rookie from argentina isn't quite harvard grad asian american but the guy had a heck of a run. 8 of 12 20+ points, dude was dunking on people, had a 30 point game, and we won 7 out of 12 which means something since that team won 33 games total.
nobody needs to get all up in arms about how the bobcats don't have their own jeremy lin story this year.....nobody does. and our fans are so ridiculously un supportive that even if we did, we'd probably complain. hate to break it to you kids but jeremy lin MIGHT turn out to be better than augustin or walker. he's playing better right now no question but he also has a great supporting cast and a good system for a guy like him to flourish. you saw what happened with felton when he left here and went to new york. higher pace equals exaggerated numbers. everybody jumps on and off the bandwagon.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 16, 2012 8:07:02 PM
The biggest story in Mark Cuban's statement is that he knows that Charlotte exists.
Y'all should be blushing about that.
Posted by: Mike | Feb 16, 2012 8:15:00 PM
I would really like to see the Charlotte Bobcats change their name back to the Charlotte Hornets, the New Orleans Hornets change their name back to the New Orleans Jazz, and the Utah Jazz change their name to something relevant in Utah. Jordan would invigorate the fan base for 2013 if he did this and the Bobcats got the #1 pick in the draft.
Posted by: Hugo the Hornet | Feb 16, 2012 8:38:52 PM
can yall not just get over it and embrace the name? sure it's like if you had a kid named after an ex but that ex was the kids mother or father or whatever. that's still your kid. this is still our team. and the name is part of the story. baltimore didn't get the colts back, they got the ravens. they also got a superbowl before indy did.
just get over it already. my closet is filled with hornets memorabilia too. but that's part of this city. what happened, happened. swapping names around doesn't change the fact that this is a completely different franchise with completely different histories and completely different owners/players/staff/arena/etc.
move the eff on already. we're coming up on 10 years since they named the team.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 16, 2012 8:45:42 PM
Ask mark if he knows Cam.... He is in Charlotte too.
Posted by: john | Feb 16, 2012 9:07:53 PM
@Hugothehornet- the team name is pretty irrelevant, but it would be cool to let the team be the Hornets again.
How bout this: Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans Jazz, Utah Lakers (bc the Great Salt Lake),and the Los Angeles.....uh......meh who cares...the LA Smog/Fakers/Rottweilers.....
Posted by: Pantherd | Feb 16, 2012 10:34:32 PM
how about the "charlotte bobcats" and the "whereveryouidiotscomefrom goeffyourselves"
just an idea.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 16, 2012 11:07:41 PM
Tommy, I expect him to be traded. Likely before March 15th.
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 16, 2012 11:34:08 PM
Cuban is right..Lin even if he was doing well would be a misnomer here in Charlotte..we have a small media market, a genteel or southern hospitality media personality...we don't have the style the notoriety that NY has and besides our team sucks! Lin would be in and out of the rotation at best..michael Jordan is the best know person associated with the Bobcats..
Posted by: darren | Feb 17, 2012 2:59:35 AM
"Ask mark if he knows Scam.... He is in Charlotte too."
That is only a plus to the idiots in a fantazy world since nobody else wanted that scammer but the worst team. Being the worst at everything is becoming synonomous with this loser joint.
Posted by: espanol cubano | Feb 17, 2012 8:52:15 AM
No high profile free agent wants to come to Charlotte or any other small market team. Even Metta World Peace didn't want to come here. Small market teams just have to hope their rookie contract players will want to stay there. The NBA is the only league where players have a say in where they go and when they want to be traded. Players care more about big markets and endorsements than they do about winning championships.
Posted by: Ben | Feb 17, 2012 8:58:01 AM
Excellent Synopsis - "**If Lin were here Charlotte would simply be known as the 3rd team that cut him, likely in favor of keeping Higgins' son."
Posted by: Ricardo Cobb | Feb 17, 2012 9:12:21 AM
There would be some Linterest if he played here but there would not be Linsanity.
Posted by: Ben | Feb 17, 2012 9:35:30 AM
Home sick today.
Anyone catch ESPN First Take today?
Talking about MJ. Blah Blah
Ended with "Contraction" and Bobcats need to be one of the 2 teams and then idiots Laughing!
See this is my fear... What is the deal with City and The Arena and all the Fines/penalties and such? Could this be possible in the near future and how??
Think of the "Irony" since The Hornets are "hanging" out there.
Posted by: David Stern has to go!! | Feb 17, 2012 12:17:56 PM
they are not going to contract the first minority owned franchise in a city where nba and and nfl have had major success in the past and a city that has tons of expendable income. especially not with MJ as the owner. they lost money because bob johnson was a a HORRIBLE owner and MJ is better but he's not a GREAT owner. he has too many unqualified people (rod higgins) on his staff making huge mistakes. they are starting to correct some of these mistakes but it's an oil tanker to turn around.
they won't contract the team. the team will turn around eventually (3 years) and be successful and profitable like the hornets were.
the biggest reason linsanity wouldn't take place here is because the supporting cast wouldn't make him look as good as the NY cast does. I know he's been without amare and carmello during the stretch, but he had tyson chandler the whole time who is obviously no slouch. he had landry fields, he had jared jeffries, everybody ELSE on the roster resembles our roster but those 3 are like augustin, henderson, and maggette but with size.
nobody would care if dude scored 20 ppg and lost which is what might have happened here. he was winning because tyson chandler was averaging 14, 8 and a half on 70% shooting all january. and outside of the lakers they haven't played a formidable team yet. the timberwolves are the next best thing they beat. and he did have carmello and amare against jersey.
here he would have been throwing lobs to biyombo and mullens at a lesser success rate and even if the offense ran on all cylinders the defense and rebounding be so bad that we would have gone 2-6 instead of 8-0. nobody would care about 2-6. footnote instead of headline. that's the difference.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 17, 2012 1:39:32 PM
Charlottean, in case you were unaware, the Hornets went broke, the owner walked away, and the team is now owned by the NBA.
The NBA is not a charity. The Bobcats are losing over $20 million a year. How do you expect them to be profitable in 2 years?
If the NBA contracts, which is likely, Charlotte will definitely be on the short list regardless of the owner, and his race.
Posted by: George Hanson | Feb 17, 2012 4:49:10 PM
As for Cuban, I'd like to say something really nasty about him. But the fact that the Bobcats are 0-for-life against the Mavs makes me sit back down and shut up.
teal and green machine - You left out the mighty ones Jerry Sichting and Greg Kite.
Stuart Gray didn't get here until year 2, at Dick Harter's urging. And Gray's complete absence of talent is one of the things that got Harter fired at the All-star break.
Posted by: J | Feb 17, 2012 5:11:44 PM
@ George Hanson...good question.
If it were MY team, I'd trade him while he still has value. Yes, I did want him over Felton bc at the time I thought he was an upgrade but he's shown very little improvement in his aggressiveness and decision making so I'm willing to let him walk.
Posted by: Bobcat Terry | Feb 17, 2012 5:15:24 PM
Rick loves to bring in the trolls. What is going rick? Really tell us.
Posted by: crymeariver | Feb 18, 2012 2:19:43 AM
The hornets going broke in new orleans especially post katrina is completely irrelevant.
This team will actually get better without adding payroll over the next few years. They continue to add sponsers they never had. Nba has slightly more revenue sharing for small market teams. If they aren't profiting and can't, its because they have fluff expenses for all of mj;s friends. The fact is, charlotteans like basketball and want to like the bobcats but just cant for various reasons. They will. This is a mostly fairweather town. Not to mention the team has less than 10 years....it takes time to build fanbases where they were burned to the ground.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2012 9:28:43 AM
@ George Hanson & Bobcat Terry
DJ might be traded because MJ is cheap! He barely could afford to buy this team but the A##hole Stern likes the star system so Michael pretty much was going to get the team at any cost. Unless we get a quality point guard in return there is nobody currently on the roster that has the skill set or basketball IQ to become the teams point guard.
Posted by: TrueBBallFan | Feb 21, 2012 12:01:59 PM
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