March 07, 2012
Charlotte Bobcats deactivate Diaw; Paul Silas explains why
The Charlotte Bobcats didn’t activate forward Boris Diaw for Wednesday’s game against the Utah Jazz, and based on the tone of coach Paul Silas’ comments, Diaw might never play here again.
"I think if he had played all out, the way he should have, it would have been a much, much better club,” Silas said, when asked why Diaw has fallen out of the rotation entirely.
Diaw was active, but didn’t play vs. the Orlando Magic, breaking a string of 384 consecutive game appearances. Diaw’s agent has contacted the Bobcats about a buyout, but the team would only consider that after the March. 15 trade deadline.
Diaw was not in the locker room during the 45-minute period pre-game when media have access.
Silas was quite direct in describing his dissatisfaction with Diaw’s play this season. The forward is averaging 7.7 points and 5.6 rebounds and shooting 41 percent.
“I like a player who is really committed to not only the team but to himself and then doing the best he can as a player,’’ Silas said. “Some of the things that would go on, like not shooting the ball (and) passing all of the time... I needed hoops and he could put the ball in the hoop. When that wouldn’t happen it was very disturbing.’’
Asked if Diaw would ever play again for the Bobcats, Silas replied, “We just have to wait and see.’’
Posted by Observer Sports on March 7, 2012 at 06:34 PM | Permalink
i wonder if this method could have actually worked as a motivating tool had it been done towards the beginning of the season. I'm sure they weren't in a position to do so because biyombo wasn't quite ready and thomas was just getting back and diaw was closer removed from having some great games at the beginning of the year..........but.........
now is horrible timing for this kind of ish. done last year? awesome. done this year at the beginning? absolutely awesome.......we still lose a ton of games but lose closer, he has higher trade value and we grab another pick or young player or at the very least, get a higher amount of his salary this year paid elsewhere. every dollar the franchise saves is a dollar they have to use in the future.
now our best case scenario is saving the prorated veterans minimum. highly doubt dude takes a paycut of much more than what he stands to make. highly doubt it. unless he's thinking about next year.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 7, 2012 7:11:41 PM
Diaw has put in a lackluster effort for a while now, goodbye
Posted by: dd7489 | Mar 7, 2012 7:55:00 PM
I don't blame Coach Silas...I wouldn't play him again regardless what happens. To me, it was EASY to see Diaw did not want to be here. If an player does not want to be on our team, then I say get rid of him as quickly as you possibly can before he destroys the team. Diaw has all the talent, but absolutely no heart and precious little effort to offer this club. Goodbye Boris.
Posted by: MrMixx | Mar 7, 2012 8:08:34 PM
it's hard to want to be on a horrible team. tayshaun prince hasn't exactly looked like the tayshaun prince before chauncey got traded.
but yea this COULD be a great message sender to the young'ns. i know mullens sure as hell got the message. dude is playing hard.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 7, 2012 9:17:12 PM
this might be the most incredibly hypothetical ever.........but...........is it feasible that we trade say......diaw, diop, higgins, and carroll or najera for elton brand and evan turner?
i'm counting 20 going out, 22 coming back so philly saves an immediate 2 million this year, gets an equally capable, younger more agile 4 man in boris for the playoffs this year OR they could just buy him out and save another half a mil or so..........then the salaries for next year are 23.45 coming back to us and 10.872 going to them. they save mad room.......we can then negotiate a buyout from brand to save a little bit more money......
and we get evan turner who is hardly playing.
augustin/henderson/turner/davis(or sullinger in a worst case)/biyombo
that is pretty nasty. and we could sell it strictly off the savings but if we really want to get extravagant, we throw in the 1st that portland owes us. which should be a pretty solid pick.
costs us a ton on payroll for next year but who the eff cares, especially if we buy out brand to save a few million off of that. even if we don't, brand is at the LEAST serviceable and mentor capable for d.j. white, biyombo, mullens, tyrus, davis or whoever we draft.
and we get evan turner. who definitely isn't needed in philly. we don't need the cap room since nobody is signing here anyways and if we could talk them into boris and tyrus thomas instead, then we really win.
why is this not happening already. win for both sides.
and did i mention we would get evan turner? that's like getting diaw that actually wants to be the man.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 7, 2012 9:42:33 PM
He is being compensated very well and his poor attitude and equally poor performance are a big part of the reason this team has struggled. To continue to let him get away with his shoddy play and demeanor sends a bad message to the rest of the team. I would not play him again under any circumstance. I don't even think I would let him sit on the bench. He does not deserve to.
Posted by: Claydog | Mar 7, 2012 9:42:58 PM
Finally, my prayers have been answered. After going to the Nets game and watching Diaw stink it up for forty minutes, I was beginning to wonder exactly what Diaw would have to do in order to be removed. The team just looks more competitive already. Even though they lost tonight, they played hard all the way and had they made their free throws this game would have been much closer at the end.
Diaw proves that talent alone does not make the player. It's still the perfect reason why Michael Jordan is the best player of all time. It's not because of his talent, though that was incredible, but because of his competitive drive and will to win. If Diaw had half the heart of MJ he would be an all-star and I bet it has driven MJ crazy watching Diaw throw this season down the toilet. At this point, whatever we can do to either bring in more talent or get rid of some of his salary will be much more beneficial that allowing him to spend one more minute in a Bobcats jersey.
Posted by: JeffC | Mar 7, 2012 10:25:45 PM
So Diaw is the only crap player on this team and the reason for all the losses? This is some bullsht!
Posted by: Digal704 | Mar 7, 2012 11:40:13 PM
This should have been done A LONG time ago, even during the Larry Brown era. I've been saying it for 2 years, the Bobcats SHOULD have traded Diaw in the beginning of the 2nd year with the Bobcats. When he was shipped over from PHO, he played out of his mind and I knew he was only doing so to show PHO up. Now look at it...PHO is glad they got rid of this fool. Now, we get absolutely nothing for Diaw, but at the very least, I'm glad to see him come off the books going into next season freeing up money for someone that actually produces. Let's just hope the 'Cats don't make another boneheaded move like taking the contracts of a Diop/Diaw or throwing ridiculous money to an unproven free agent like Tyrus Thomas.
Posted by: KYL | Mar 7, 2012 11:50:23 PM
charlottean - something like this was tried earlier in the year. Boris got demoted from starter to reserve when DJ White was really hot for a few games. It didn't help.
As for your proposed trade with Philly, I'm not sure it would help unless the amnesty clause was used on Brand once we got him. Are you shure Turner would be a contributing rotation player on a championship-contending team? I'm not entirely convinced.
I prefer Cho's measured approach and his brains. Cho is never going to trade a top 10 draft pick for Jason Richardson, or take on 2 albotross contracts for 1 free salary cap slot (such as taking Carroll and Diop for Dampier's 1 unguaranteed year). It will probably be the 2015-16 season before we're any good, but if he can make the OKC model work here, once we get good, we'll be good for a long time.
And part of that model is having a good, young coach. They did it in OKC with Scott Brooks, and I think Stephen Silas has a bright future, assuming Cho gives him the job when Paul retires.
Posted by: J | Mar 8, 2012 7:17:30 AM
It's so sad to see this team resorting to the strategy/course that Bickerstaff had us on before MJ canned him... for Sam Vincent, Higgins, etc...
Posted by: Funky | Mar 8, 2012 7:47:10 AM
In your opinion, why is Tyrus Thomas not playing? I know he is under-weight this year and is having some knee issues but is there an attitude problem going on there too? If Silas is trying to find out who wants it, seems like this would be the time to play him.
Posted by: CatDaddyP | Mar 8, 2012 9:09:56 AM
I dont understand why tyrus isnt playing either. The only thing I can figure out is that maybe if he plays for extended periods of time he injures himself.
Posted by: zach | Mar 8, 2012 9:20:13 AM
Although I see your intentions with the trade for Elton Brand, that is never going to happen for many reasons. First, Philly needs to cut like 3 players BEFORE the trade in order for the trade to be possible. Also, you are counting on buying out Brand and that is way to big of a salary to negotiate. Also, that trade actually hurts the Bobcats more than it helps. Evan Turner is a decent player, but he is not worth all that trouble.
On the other hand, Corey Maggette has been playing pretty good the past couple of weeks, he's avergaing almost 16ppg/5rpg in 29mpg, plus he only has 1 more season in his contract. PLEASE MJ, showcase this guy and let him score in bunches during the next week and try to trade him for expiring contracts. Then you may amnestie Diop, draft Anthony Davis and you'll have almost $35M in Cap Space, plus some solid young guys such: Hendo, Biyombo, Walker, Brown, Mullens and Thomas.
Best case scenario, convince Deron Williams and Dwight Howard to play in Charlotte and draft Harrison Barnes. That way we'll be the East version of OKC.
Give the MLE to Antwan Jamison, and sign some cheap veterans (e.g., Michael Redd, Mickael Pietrus, Leandro Barbosa, Ronny Turiaf, Matt Barnes, Chris Wilcox or Mike Bibby).
That's your championship team for the next 5 years. Dream MJ!!!!
Posted by: RobC | Mar 8, 2012 9:50:24 AM
Charlottean, Man no way Philly part ways with both of these guys for uncomparable talent. NBA teams may take a Diaw and Najera at what price. I wish someone would take Diop contract, but he has not proven to be even a decent player in this league. Chris Kaman r Max Seal. We need some strong people and people that can score. Biyombo has not yet learned the game of basketball but I do think he is going to be solid. Kemba is going to be good but not a great player. We need some offense prod in this league.
Posted by: tbird | Mar 8, 2012 10:02:11 AM
the amount of cap space would be convincing enough. brand is only playing big minutes because he's getting paid too much not to. he's a shell of his former self. saving over 10 mil on next years payroll and 2 million this year while simultaneously getting better at the 4 by promoting thaddeus young and bringing boris in as the backup SHOULD be convincing enough.
no effing way williams and howard come here. ever. why would you even talk about that if you're joking. that's not even a dream scenario, it just isn't going to happen. turner isn't a decent player. he's an elite player trapped on the wrong team. last night was proof. i'm afraid too much proof now to make the deal happen. but that is a good deal for both sides.
we give up cap room next year in a year we don't need it and get an absolute stud young'n to go with our other good pieces and throw in our top pick with him. it only doesn't make sense if we draft barnes. unless you want to move augustin and henderson for picks and start turner at the 1 and walker at the 2 and barnes at the 3. completely do'able.
I think the deal i'm talking fits right in with cho's approach. pick up young talent and draft picks and let other teams park bad salaries (brand's 18 million next year) to do so. i don't think a buyout is 100% needed, just desired. I would think a guy like brand would take a 2-3 million dollar haircut in the offseason to go get a midlevel or minimum deal somewhere where he actually wants to and will play. if he gets bought out for 16 and we save the 2........we're looking at approximately 67 million with the high draft pick included. that should be smoothly under the tax line to fill out the roster with some minimum contracts.
Now that's also assuming we don't make any other cost saving moves such as trading maggette or brand for slightly lesser 1 year deals but it also in no way shape or form jeopardizes EITHER teams future cap space. it's essentially, evan turner for huge savings next year. both teams still have huge cap room for the following year which matters way more for us because we will actually have a team that could draw a mid-level free agent of consequence at that point.
the kicker would be if philly saw something in tyrus thomas and was willing to take him instead of diop if we threw in a 1st rounder that portland owes us (which could be a good pick if they end up rebuilding or taking a step back after this year).
evan turner is the perfect guy to pair with kemba walker if we're going to go all in with kemba. if we're going to go all in with augustin, this trade is irrelevant. and augustin COULD be included in this deal if you wanted to make it a 3 way with say the lakers or someone of the like that wants a point.
problem is, i think he just played himself from trade bait to building block of the sixers. they might look at the 1 for 12 the night before and still listen, but i doubt it. dude looked like a stud last night.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 8, 2012 1:09:57 PM
and philly would only need to temporarily cut 1 player if it was a 2 for 5 swap. if it was 2 for 4 they could handle it. and najera IS a valuable piece for a playoff bound team. for us not so much but for them, absolutely. if they thought otherwise, they could always buy him out. same with diaw. do the trade today, buy him out by the 17th. still can sign with other teams in time for playoffs.
philly has 13 on their roster currently.
we on the other hand have all 15, so if we swap 2 for 4, we don't have to do anything. if we swap 2 for 5, we have to sign somebody. not a big deal either way.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 8, 2012 1:15:43 PM
Layoff the crack pipe
Posted by: TrueBBallFan | Mar 8, 2012 1:19:07 PM
I think we should hang on to DJ of course, but would a package of DJ and Diaw for Curry and Biendris. R maybe return of Ray Felton and Wesley Matthews with another big. R maybe Steve Blake and a Matt Barnes with Lakers 1st rounder. They are looking for a pg and it is no guarauntee that Augustine will remain a Bobcat after the season. You know the young point guards have their options. So y not........
Posted by: tbird | Mar 8, 2012 1:52:08 PM
there is a guarantee he remains a bobcat after this season if we want him to. he's a restricted free agent, only way he leaves is if we don't offer the QO or match an offer sheet he signs elsewhere.
none of those guys are worth having that you mentioned. curry is a slight upgrade over augustin (keep in mind inflation of stats for PACE played in GS vs. here) and biedrins is LOST. dude once looked like a stud but is absolutely gone from that form. barnes and blake and a 1 aren't worth augustin.
only way you give up augustin is if you get a top 10 pick or a top 10 pick talent at pg. If he has expressed that he doesn't want to be here long term (which i doubt) then you maybe take a fringe lottery pick for the sheer hopes that we manage to get 2 ping pong balls which would be absolutely insane if we grabbed barnes AND davis. that would mean immediate dynasty. more so than irving and thompson in cleveland. especially because we already have so many pieces.
the thing that is SO intriging about a guy like turner, is that he is a ball handler, a play maker AND an alpha male. he is like diaw with balls. coupling him with walker would be ideal. a poor mans or rather a homeless man's lebron and wade. but coupling that with biyombo and mullens and either davis or barnes AND henderson?! that would be absolute contender material for YEARS.
the difference between guys like turner and beasley and guys like rose and irving is mostly circumstance and situation. imagine if minnesota decided to keep beasley? derrick williams career is permanently hindered there. if turner had been drafted to an absolutely horrible team instead of an injured but decent sixers team, he might be talked about like rose. same with beasley, he gets drafted to wade's team and shipped out shortly after. same with a lot of our draft picks where we stuck them with poor rotations and poor coaching for years.
you put the ball in evan turner's hands with players like biyombo who can finish and defend, mullens who can catch and shoot, henderson who can catch and shoot, etc. etc. etc............that's a winning formula. augustin would even benefit from turner. he could play on the wing just like walker can because he's such a good shooter and he could also run the 2nd team offense when turner's on the bench.
and if you throw davis or barnes in the mix?! jesus.
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 8, 2012 2:58:55 PM
Evan turner at pt gd. Henderson. Harrison barnes. White. Bizmack. Off the bench. Kemba. Mullens. Williams.brown. This wud hurt some teams ..
Posted by: Ironman | Mar 8, 2012 5:47:28 PM
i'd even take it a step further and go
with augustin, brown, mullens, a resurrected tyrus thomas.
If we got turner, it would make augustin/walker work that much better because walker could play the 2 without a problem. resigning augustin to play 6th man OR even starting augustin and playing walker a ton off the bench at the 2.....it all works. having a guy like turner provides so much versatility. barnes too. barnes will be big enough to legitimately play the 4 in the nba in about 3 or 4 years. he's a 3, but he'll be able to play the post if we wanted.
i really hope they don't botch this. there's just too much right that they can do with this draft pick and the current situation. we've been in these shoes before and horribly horribly rod higginsed it. please don't higgins it again guys. please. (and yes that is a verb)
Posted by: charlottean | Mar 8, 2012 11:07:59 PM
Thank you Coach Silas...Diaw needs to go back to Europe an play in THE ALL LAZY LEAGUE. He's an arrogant All Lazy player for sure.
Posted by: buzzkill | Mar 9, 2012 8:15:36 PM
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