January 22, 2013
Memphis Grizzlies do salary dump, relieving pressure to trade Rudy Gay
Looks like the “Where does Rudy Gay get traded?’’ speculation goes on hold, at least for a while.
The Memphis Grizzlies are reportedly doing a deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers, sending Marreese Speights, Wayne Ellington, Josh Selby and a future first-round pick to Cleveland in return for forward Jon Leuer.
This has next to nothing to do with the players involved, but a ton to do with the salary exchange. The Grizzlies would lower their payroll by about $6 million, falling below the anticipated luxury-tax threshold this season.
In doing so, the Grizzlies can forestall any need to move Gay or Zach Randolph to manage the future implications of luxury tax. Under the new collective bargaining agreement, repeat offenders against the tax will be heavily penalized financially. It’s tough for the Grizzlies to justify such an expense in a mid-size NBA market.
The Bobcats seemed like one of the teams that would be interested in Gay. President of Basketball Operations Rod Higgins told the Observer last week that the team is aggressively looking at trade opportunities.
As Higgins put it, “I don’t think there’s any limits to what we’d try to do.’’
The Grizzlies were seemingly in a bind. They’d like to hold together their core of Gay, Randolph, center Marc Gasol and point guard Mike Conley. The growing payroll and luxury-tax complications set off wide-spread speculation they’d have to move a core player.
Now the Grizzlies have seemingly kicked that can down the road, at least until after this season.
Posted by Observer Sports on January 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM | Permalink
How did we miss out on getting Marreese Speights and a future first round pick for a player making 750,000 dollars a year. Wish we still had Corey Higgins, he would have fit the scenario. Higgins for Speights, Selby, and Ellington and future first round pick.
Posted by: Timbo | Jan 22, 2013 10:59:49 AM
Memphis is not going to part with Rudy Gay. The big names they have in small cities like Memphis and OKC is what the Bobcats desperetly desire. Once you esblish players like that you hold onto them because markets our size may never get them again. That's the bad lesson the old Honets learned the hard way. Also why I think we will regret letting Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson go. They should have just tried to get one more solid player to complement those two. Theres only so much a small maket team can do. MJ should pay close attention to that.
Posted by: Jax | Jan 22, 2013 11:15:19 AM
I don't think anyone wants to trade with us. It makes more news saying Michael Jordan fails, than the Bobcats winning. JMHO of course.
Posted by: Anonymous_Mom | Jan 22, 2013 11:17:05 AM
New rumor with traction - Cats deal spare parts and pick for Pau Gasol. Hope it's not true. Not sure if it's the right time for a guy in his salary and age range.
Posted by: funky | Jan 22, 2013 11:39:35 AM
You have to be under the cap to to take on that salary in trade which we aren't. That's why we "missed" out.
Posted by: spectre | Jan 22, 2013 11:56:51 AM
We need someone down low from 2013 draft. I don't want to see us trade pick away even if a weak class.
We just need to open checkbook for a good FA and convince them to come.
If Kemba and Sessions can have someone down low to pass to this team improves dramatically.
Posted by: Season Ticket holder for now | Jan 22, 2013 12:22:51 PM
When you literally have no scorers in the low post, one would make a massive different. Team is not as far away from respcability as some think. Kemba is legit. He carried them yesterday. Guy scores at will. Wait until he has someone to pass to.
Posted by: Jim | Jan 22, 2013 2:14:30 PM
would be nice
Posted by: Bobcat Fan | Jan 22, 2013 2:24:30 PM
I don't want to us to get rid of Kemba or MKG definetly.
For debate for good deal Hendo, Biz, Mullens, Sessions, and Taylor
Anyone else do it for anything you can get.
Posted by: Season Ticket holder for now | Jan 22, 2013 3:30:30 PM
We have a few guys who are going to be FAs this summer we could move for Pau Gasol. I would move Haywood and Giop. Basically we take the better player in the swap but they get some cap room for the summer. We can still amnesty a player too - so even though I really like Gordon if they have a chance to sign a good player next summer they can amnesty Gordon to get the cap space. Or if Gasol doesn't work out they can amnesty him...
Posted by: Dom | Jan 22, 2013 4:47:05 PM
Right now three of our five best players are around six feet tall (Kemba, Sessions and Gordon). This is why we give up all those threes and why we are losing so much. I think we would be better off with two of the three - so if they can move one then they should do it... As much as I like Kemba Walker I don't think he is as good as Gordon. I would like to see what happens if Gordon starts at the point for five games (and plays 35 minutes each game). I think we win 3 of 5. Sessions is simular - but the Cats are committed to Kemba so they stay with him even though they would win more if Sessions and Gordon got most of the minutes....
Posted by: Dom | Jan 22, 2013 4:54:24 PM
BTW - Kemba is Legit. He is also very inconsistent and doesn't run the point very well. He is getting better - and perhaps it will pay off for the Cats to keep giving him too many minutes. It will not pay off this year though. He misses to many shots and doesn't rotate fast enough to contest three point shots. Watch the games - the Cats always get killed on threes and it is mostly due to guys not rotating on the perimter when the ball goes in the paint.
The idea is simple - rotate to the three point shooter on the same side of the basket where the low post player has the ball. Don't just stay with your man when you are on the opposite side of the basket. Perimter guys need to rotate so that one can double down. Sure - you leave the guy opposite the action open but that is why the bigs need to keep their arms up and contest the ball - that keeps the player in the paint occupied. Then when the ball goes back out to the perimter you rotate back so it is man on man again. If you are slow on either rotation and you are short at the point or 2 then you give up threes all day - that is the Bobcats in a nutshell.
Posted by: Dom | Jan 22, 2013 5:02:47 PM
didn't realize this pick was guaranteed 6-14. That makes this deal that much sweeter for cleveland. wow.
we missed the boat on this. I'm not sure if we had the cap room to swing it, but if we did, we missed out. jeff adrien for speights alone would have been a nice deal for both sides. can't see jon leur playing any for memphis.
but you guys gotta be more patient with the current team. These guys are FINE for their age/experience level. 3-4 years and we ARE memphis. we don't really NEED trades. They probably said no to this strictly because it would kill the possibility of a better deal coming down the pipe at the deadline.
Posted by: charlottean | Jan 22, 2013 5:02:47 PM
Dunlap has to go. No big time FA will respect him or come here if he is the coach. Coach Steve Joyner at JC Smith is better than Dunlap. Noway any NBA Team should have a 3 point defense as poor as the Bobcats.There are 5 good NBA coachs without jobs. MJ WAKEUP!
Posted by: Big FAN | Jan 22, 2013 6:07:05 PM
We have "worked our a$$ off" to get this bad.
We need to continue on our current path and be "rewarded" with a top three pick. Pick Nerlens Noel and use Portland's pick (around 14-16) to get Plumlee.
We are set up to make a run starting next year.
Our hope is that one (or more) of OUR six lottery picks (Henderson, Walker, Biyombo, MKG, Noel, and/or Plumlee) develops into a transcendent player.
Posted by: knhart | Jan 22, 2013 8:09:03 PM
Hahahahahaha about dunlap being the problem. You guys are hilarious. Steve joyner hahahahaha. Free agents don't build champions.
Lebron doesn't go to miami if they didn't draft dwayne wade. Every championship in the past 20 was won by a team that drafted a star or 2 and used other draft picks to trade for more. Only exception was detroit in 2003 or 04 or whenever that was. And none of them won as 19 or 20 year old rookies. And rudy gay is NOT worth giving up mkg and cap room for. Crazy. Mkg will be as good if not better than gay in 3 or 4 years.
I bet most of you guys live your life exactly how you talk about basketball. Might want to look in your mirror on that part too.
Posted by: charlottean | Jan 22, 2013 8:49:56 PM
Charlottean you have no clue just like Dunlap. Look at history Boston, the big three, LA ,Shaq, the Heat LBJ. All these free agent help win the NBA title. The Cats have to many project players and a nobody coach. Would you want to come here.
Posted by: Big FAN | Jan 22, 2013 9:28:44 PM
All those free agents went where there was already a draft pick.
The big three were a product of pierce being drafted, jeff green (draft pick) and al jefferson (draft pick) being traded for allen and garnett among a bunch of other........draft picks.
not free agency. Shaq signed right after they got Kobe (draft pick), eddie jones (draft pick), nick van exel (draft pick), byron scott (basically draft pick), derek fisher (draft pick), elden campbell, and cedric ceballos who they got from phoenix for.............a draft pick (michael finley).
you are an idiot (blanket statement) if you can't see that you win through the draft. chicago drafted michael, scottie, and toni. detroit drafted joe, isiah, rodman, basically lambeer.
san antonio drafted robinson, duncan, sean elliot, and later on parker, ginobili.
even miami drafted dwayne wade. they don't go to miami if he wasn't there and hadn't already won a championship. if lebron won in clevelend instead, they would have gone there.
only detroit in 2004 are the exception to the rule, and even they draft prince, drafted stackhouse and traded him for hamilton, drafted okur, they traded picks (josh smith included) for rasheed, traded grant hill (draft pick) for ben wallace*. only guy that was a free agent was billups.
draft and trade is the formula. boston wasn't built on free agents. only miami was and as i've pointed out......wade already had a ring that he won with shaq but wade was the guy.
there's over 20 years of proof. you go back and you got bird and magic. drafted where they went.
Posted by: charlottean | Jan 23, 2013 9:30:46 AM
Drafts are the key. That is what concerns me. The Bobcats have never hit. I mean really hit on a pick. You need that player to build around. Kemba could be one. MKG too early to tell. They get another shot this year.
Posted by: Jim | Jan 23, 2013 11:20:35 AM
I don't see the word CHO appearing even once in that column...I thought he was large and in charge?
Pau Gasol? Air Minimum & The Yes Men ran off Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton because they were to old. Pau will be 33 before next season starts, older than both Ray and Crash.
Higgins says -- "...I don't think there's any limits..."
Oh Rod, ROD, there are "limits" my friend, very strict limits. Billy King, see he has no limits with Prokhorov as owner. No limits in Dallas with Bank of Cuban open for business.
OH ROD, you my friend, are limited by His Minimumness's miniscule checkbook. If there were "no limits" we would have amnestied Tyrus a LONG TIME AGO.
Get real Rod.
Hey Rick, how about a little critical analysis for a change? Repeatedly printing the nonsensical and laughable assertions and statements of The Yes Men is wearing thin.
Posted by: Spider S. | Jan 23, 2013 4:30:12 PM
Thank god none of you are running a team. Draft Noel and Plumlee and pair them with the guys we have? Are you insane? Noel is only slightly better than Biyombo and plays the same position. And Mullens is clearly better than Plumlee and also plays his positon. You would waste 2 lottery on guys that we basically already have on our roster? LMAO! We need to draft either Ben Mclemore or Shabazz Muhammed to replace Henderson.
We then need to package Henderson with some combination of the Detroit and Portland pick we're owed to move farther up with our second pick and get Anthony Bennett. That kid is gonna be a Beast!
Adding McLemore/Muahammed plus Bennett and then going hard after either Jefferson or Pekovic on the free agent market this summer to address the center position would make us light years ahead of where we are now.
And to Bonnell: You're no better. The only person i've heard talking about us trading for Rudy Gay the last 2 years is you! Why would a young team waste close to 20 million a year on a guy who's not a true max player and who plays the same position as MKG,who we just drafted?
That move would set us back years just to be slightly more competitive with a team that's not ready to challenge for anything. I seriously think you are horrible at covering the Bobcats. Your insight is almost non existent!
Posted by: Jason | Jan 24, 2013 1:50:01 AM
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