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February 27, 2013

Thoughts on Bobcats-Clippers

Five passing thoughts on a Bobcats game that showed promise, then got utterly brutal in the second half against the Clippers:

            --I’m not going to punish rookie Michael Kidd-Gilchrist for being 19 years old with a flawed skill set. If any team in the NBA should have a long view on talent development, it must be the Bobcats. Still…

            He was invisible Tuesday against the Clippers in a way that sticks out even on the NBA’s worst team. He played 22 minutes, and I suspect if he weren’t drafted so high, he would have played seven. He was scoreless with one rebound and one block. Usually when MKG has a bad game, it’s foul trouble. He never committed a foul Tuesday; he was just invisible.

            Three educated guesses what’s going on: 1. His inability to make jump shots is widely known, so teams guard him exclusively for the drive. 2. He’s now played virtually the equivalent of two college seasons and he looks exhausted. 3. I don’t know if he has a great coping mechanism when things go south. When you play in high school with Kyrie Irving, then play on a Kentucky team that overwhelmed everyone, you’re used to things going well.

            --I respect that coach Mike Dunlap’s only power is playing time. But some of his decisions feel a little mean.

            Tyrus Thomas hasn’t gotten a uniform in a half-dozen games. Ben Gordon didn’t play, by coach’s decision, in two of the last three games. I get that both of these guys are culpable; Thomas doesn’t contribute much, particularly relative to his contract, and Gordon has been insubordinate at times.

            I also get that when in doubt, play the young guys.

            But humiliating these veterans – very expensive veterans, by the way – is beginning to have a sense of overkill.

            --Gerald Henderson’s mid-post game – he could easily elevate over Chauncey Billups – was good for 24 points off 12-of-19 shooting. Sometimes I think fans are far too dismissive of Henderson’s abilities.

            I’ve gone 180 degrees on Henderson. I think he’s matured greatly into that guy you always want in your locker room. And he’s a player, with an edge on the court the Bobcats generally lack.

            --Rough night for Bismack Biyombo, huh? DeAndre Jordan goes 6-of-6 from the field. Biz goes 1-of-4 with no blocks. He missed a six-foot jump shot so badly Iwanted to scream “duck’’ from the baseline.

            --Remember Ryan Hollins? He played four minutes of mop-up for the Clippers. Back when he was a Bobcat, he was just good enough to be a tease. Being that tall and a genuine athlete means he always gets a second chance…and a third…and a fourth.

Posted by Observer Sports on February 27, 2013 at 03:24 AM | Permalink

Comments

Gordon and Thomas should stay on the bench. Humiliating veterans? Give me a break. They humiliate the fans with their terrible, head scratching ways of playing.
Henderson is the epitome of inconsistency. He drives to basket looking for contact instead of trying to finish. He's been in the league for five years now and only averages 12 points. He's shown little development and hopefully will be gone next year. No wonder why the Cat's didn't extend his contract. He's another terrible NBA former Duke player. He should not be starting on ANY NBA team.
And give MKG a break. It's the Clippers for crying out loud. We knew this would be a tough one. These games happen with a young team.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 27, 2013 3:56:48 AM

Dwg..you're a total idiot. Henderson averages 14 a game on 28 minutes. Your boy Kemba averages over 37 minutes a game . Henderson has averaged over 17 pts a game in the last 19 games since he's been given minutes over 32. That's better than over 23 out of 30 starting two gds dummy. His defense is in the top 5 for sure . ...top 5 !!! I hope he slows it up some so he can leave and not have to play w gunning ass shoot first pt gds that make horrible decisions and play zero defense . And to be away from fans that are pure clowns like you.

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 27, 2013 6:19:55 AM

And Rick.. It's about time you got critical and no longer sugar coat these losses and what's going on like writers do in other localities. Today was a start. Now pls sound on the awful passing system Dunlap has in place. It's one screen and a shot or a forced shot on goal missing a teammate who's open when the driver draws at lest two defenders in the lane.

Dunlap has zero pick and roll offense. The one that's used over a quarter of the times in the nba. Kemba never hits the roller who could be a wing instead of a terrible big . A roller could hit a cutter. That there is no lobs or passes to cutters. That last nite , there was no double digit assist man whc you must have to win or close bc of the no passing system . That Kemba makes poor decisions ESP in the 4 th and Sessions should be running the point bc Kemba is a sg lover dribbling looking for his shot not thinking about facilitating in the paint.

Help make changes w the power of the pen . Peter Vesci would never let the Knicks slide like this.

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 27, 2013 6:30:32 AM

I love basketball - the strategy, pivots, passing, boxing out, steals, picks, find the open man stuff. I love it when the inferior team beats the lesser team just because their fundamentals and teamwork prevail. I'm a Hoosiers guy at heart. John Wooden fundamentals. Muggsy Bogues heart. I measure heart. Charges taken. Bojangles hustle stats. Dives after loose balls. Wins in the last two minutes sort of stuff. That's why I'm going to pay $6 and go see the 27-0 Myers Park Mustangs girls team - probably the best-coached high school team in the state - play at home in the high school playoffs tonight.

Posted by: Steve Kerr | Feb 27, 2013 8:18:34 AM

Glad this one was on past my bed time.

Posted by: Timmy's | Feb 27, 2013 8:31:41 AM

What does dwg stand for dim-witted goonie?

Posted by: Big Bad John | Feb 27, 2013 9:12:16 AM

DWG ... stands for Dim Witted Goon.

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 27, 2013 9:28:11 AM

Best column of yours I've ever seen. Keep the pedal to the metal!

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 10:14:00 AM

Looks like Iron Women is mad about his BFF. Just like Charlottean said, facts are what you people cannot seem to wrap your tiny brains around.
Hendersons CAREER AVERAGE IS 9.6 POINTS A GAME, 2.9 REBOUNDS, AND 1.4 ASSIST A GAME. Nobody cares about the last 14 games. You look at the player from the whole standpoint. He would NOT BE STARTING ON ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
My boy Kemba is only in his SECOND NBA SEASON and HE ALREADY SURPASSED HENDERSON IN POINTS, ASSISTS, AND EVEN REBOUNDS!! Augustin couldn't do that nor could Felton.

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 27, 2013 10:32:26 AM

Jeez no wonder why this team is lack luster. With children like Iron Woman and "Big bad john" around supporting weak, non developed talent like Henderson.
Three years in the NBA and he doesn't even average ten points a career. No wonder the coaches are hesistant about him starting. No wonder management DID NOT extend his contract. But keep on cheering for below average, inconsistent talent Iron Woman

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 27, 2013 10:37:51 AM

I guess Rick is finally getting fed up with the poor play. I agree about Gordon, but disagree about Thomas. Thomas is just worthless. He's achieved his goal of getting a contract and now he's good to go. He has no heart and no drive.

The youth movement led by Biz and MKG is starting to get depressing. Especially seeing Lillard, Waiters, Drummond, and other rookies flourish so son.

Overpay Jefferson, re-sign Henderson, and draft Noel. I think that would be a good (relatively speaking) squad.

Posted by: Sambo | Feb 27, 2013 10:40:55 AM

Iron Woman you further show your idiocy by blaming Dunlap. You and NASCAR are so obbsessed with passing. Let me ask you this..... who is Kemba going to pass to that score down low CONSISTENTLY?? Who is he going to pass to that can hit jump shots CONSISTENTLY?? Who is he going to pass to that WILL NOT BOBBLE THE BALL out of bounds?? This team has the WORST FRONT COURT IN THE NBA, but yet morons like you keep talking about passing the ball and running a system. It's IMPOSSIBLE WITH THIS FRONT COURT!!

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 27, 2013 10:50:04 AM

LOL. DRAFT NOEL?? He has a TORN ACL!! WTF?!? My goodness.
Is it any wonder NO NBA TEAM would give up a first round pick for Henderson?? A SG who shoots 21% career from three and you want to resign him??

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 27, 2013 11:06:12 AM

I watching Chris Paul throw those passes/alleyoops so Blake Griffin could slam several consecutive monsterous dunks on the Bobcats last night. Man, if the Bobcats ever get a high draft choice, we should really think about drafting a player like Griffin, Paul, Lopez...somebody like that.

Posted by: Groundhog Day | Feb 27, 2013 11:34:31 AM

20-103

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 12:17:01 PM

Someone requested more info on NASTAR15. Tough getting the info because my contact is working outside the US. Definitely sounds like a terminated employee. Said he never worked with him, was already gone, but said stories are legendary about his incompetence and poor work ethic among other things.

Had to be a lot of people like this that worked for the Bobcats over the years. Probably don't attract the best of the best. Hopefully they got rid of most of them. Looks like at least one still carries a grudge. It all makes sense. No one would spend that kind of time pounding any business. Sad, but I guess you have to do something with the extra time.

Posted by: Skip | Feb 27, 2013 12:21:38 PM

^^^Not much of a newsflash. That guy bashes the team non-stop. I have had season tickets for 5 years and there has been a lot of turnover. Probably not many as bitter as this person. Its not like he will stop. He will just change his name again.

Posted by: Season Ticket Holder | Feb 27, 2013 12:41:17 PM

I have personally watched Ben Gordan Light People On fire and win games single Handed, and tyrus will go somewhere eventually and grow up. For a coach with no NBA experience .... it shows, and it also shows that Chicago's beloved MJ keeps making bad executive decisions. You all had a team lead by vets before and now you place them on the back burner. I will give you all a pass... NC has not seen good NBA basketball in a while.
Ben should have never left Chicago, Im sure the money he got in the contract, he has lost in endorsments. He was once the "Rain Man"

Posted by: Bulls Fan | Feb 27, 2013 1:28:38 PM

If you guys are going to slurp full-time for an organization as bad as the BOOBcats you're gonna have to get thicker skin!

Skip your story has so many holes in it a 3rd grader could have done better. As ineffective an organization as they are, I am certain they don't waste any time monitoring these comments sections. Second, the BOOBcats don't have any overseas employees. Lastly, email works pretty much worldwide these days dude, so if you really did know anyone with the BOOB's, which you dont, getting in touch would not be a problem.

NEXT!

Ok, back to the slopes for me, January and February are wonderful months to be in Aspen ;)

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 1:33:05 PM

Henderson and McRoberts :-) Go Duke !

Posted by: chris in union county | Feb 27, 2013 2:01:25 PM

nobody would give up a 1st for henderson because he isn't under contract going forward.

i don't know where some of you are getting your stats from. he hardly played for 2 years. THEN he averaged 15 last year and 13.4 currently. he averages 15.4 per 36 for his career and 17 per 36 this year. 14th in fg% for 2's. 13th in PPS, 17th in steals, 19th in rebounds, 5th in double doubles, 12th in PER etc. etc. etc.

he is definitely not top 10 shooting guard in the league, but he is definitely somewhere between 11-20. probably right around 15. and we don't have a lot of guys that are top 20 at their positions. kemba is the only other one. mkg and biz eventually will be.

but why hate henderson? especially after he goes 12 for 19 in a game where he's the only reason we didn't lose by 40. you guys just baffle me.

and yes ben gordon can light you up and win games single handed. he also gives up more buckets defensively than anybody else. and he doesn't light people up night in, night out. he plays horrible basketball night in night out. he occasionally goes off and makes a ton of buckets. he has that skill. that skill isn't enough. that's why chicago didn't keep him and that's why detroit gave up a 1st round pick to get rid of him. it has nothing to do with dunlap and everything to do with gordon.


as for thomas....i like thomas. i would like him a lot more if he wasn't so overpaid. but he is. and he just isn't that good. he's a solid bench guy and that's it. he's paid like a starter. he was drafted to be a star. he isn't that. he has a mediocre jump shot, good shot blocking skills, decent rebounding, no physical presence and makes a good share of turnovers and bone head plays. he's a great guy to have on your team when you aren't paying him 8+ million a year. he isn't like a lot of guys that the bobcats did dirty. he got plenty of chances. he never fulfilled his potential. it's on him and nobody else. or he was just never that good and his potential was inflated. either way it has nothing to do with dunlap. dunlap played him quite a bit early and he showed next to nothing.

stop inventing things.

this team IS horrible. but it's horrible by design. we have this years youngest player and last years youngest player paired with 3 guys who have 2 real years of nba experience and are 25 and under.

but it's not like these guys were pulled out of thin air. these young guys are all mcdonald's all american's. they're all first round picks. you guys gotta be patient. henderson, biyombo, walker, mullens, taylor will all be in the nba for the next 10 years. bet. hopefully here because some of those guys are going to be VERY good when they're......25-30.


patience mfers.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 27, 2013 2:07:18 PM

There are 10 NBA teams where the average is less than the Bobcats.Age has nothing to do with how bad this team is; IT'S COACHING AND TALENT. Dunlap is the worst coach in the NBA.He coachs like a D3 college coach.Dunlap must go ,along with Higgens who hired him. Dunlap has lost this team and no big name FA will come here with him as coach

Posted by: Big FAN | Feb 27, 2013 2:33:45 PM

MKG is blatantly a bust for a #2 overall pick. He has to make giant steps in the offseason to become as good as Corey Brewer. thats pretty sad

Posted by: formerfan | Feb 27, 2013 2:45:47 PM

average age per player is skewed. you are an idiot for not understanding that. average age per minute played is different. our starting lineup has nobody over age 25. and they play the bulk of the minutes.

and mkg has been in a slump as of late, but early on he was in the rookie of the year discussion. the kid was very very very good early on. he has been disappointing lately. he's going to be rudy gay with better defense. BET. the kid turns 20 in september. keep that in your mind. he's a child playing against grown men. and his defense has been very solid.

i have zero doubts about him. i have major doubts about mullens ever getting it and realizing potential but mkg? no doubts. he'll never score 25 a game, but he could absolutely be a 17/8/5/2/2 guy. he just has such a great feel for the game for a rookie. he doesn't make the same mistakes that you expect from a guy his age. and his ability to finish at the rim is undeniable. you guys are extremely hard on prospects. no he's not lebron. lebron is once in a generation. but he's an absolute upper tier talent in this draft class.

funny how quick these pricks forget©b.i.g.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 27, 2013 3:21:26 PM

A little defensive. No doubt that guy is a disgruntled former employee. What a loser. Does anyone think the Bobcats don't read the articles in their hometown paper? All you need to do is keep scrolling and you see the comments.

Skip. Do you know what he does now? Pretty lame all this bashing, but you knew there was something behind it.

Amazing how he can Ski and type at the same time.

Posted by: Rev | Feb 27, 2013 3:26:00 PM

Hey Nastarass...My contact worked for the Bobcats (past tense) Now works internationally for the NBA. Yes. They do have offices outside the country. I guess he doesn't sit by his keyboard waiting for emails. Might actually be working which sounds like a foreign concept for you when you with the Cats. No wonder you got clipped.

I will find out what this joker does now and pass it along. 13 hour time difference so I apologize if it takes some time. Maybe by the time he gets off the slopes in "Aspen" I will have it.

Posted by: Skip | Feb 27, 2013 5:23:39 PM

You guys are so angry, must be working too much...chill fellas and take some time off!

So, back to hoops...looking forward on the schedule, I'm a little worried we are on the cusp of running up another string of consecutive losses well into the teens.

Lost the last 4, 6 of next 9 on the road and home games are Nets, OKC and Boston, no easy games there. Then we have 3 of 4 at home, maybe we can pick off one of those.

Last 3 months we've won a grand total 6 games, if the trend holds we'll finish March at 15-58...just super duper! We started out 7-5 and are 8-53 since, that's about the same pace as last year.

Way to go Mike!

It's highly unlikely we win 20 games this year, I'm thinking 16-17 tops. What's our goal for next year, 20?

Off to the hot tub!

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 6:02:24 PM

Correction: if we finish March at 15-58 we will have gone 8-53 since a 7-5 start. I know you guys and the BOOBcats are watching every word ;)

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 6:14:02 PM

Hey kitty cats play nice. I wanted Thomas Robinson as the draft pick because he provides what this team sorely lacks. I wonder what his numbers would be on this team if he got the minutes that MKG gets...I digress. Maybe in a few years MKG will become relentless going to the basket which is his greatest offensive strength. He has hit a few more midrange jumpshots lately, so lets hope over time his shot becomes more consistent. I do think MKG is ahead of the curve on defense. Man, he was a #2 pick though. Taylor does seem to be improving with more minutes on the court and MKG seems to be fading. I wonder if conditioning is a factor. I can be sold on Henderson getting an extension. However, we need another bigger shooting guard longterm than Gordon because of the points and rebounds this team gives up because of the size advantage the other teams have at that position. Mullens doesnt have the toughness and desire to be a starter with heavy minutes and is best served on this team as a backup should they choose to resign him. I like Kemba's improvement and he will only get better with better players around him. Biz is coming along nicely and will only get better. Tyrus has been given every opportunity and has failed. He and the team needs a change. Let's hope the Bobcats organization hits a homerun in the offseason.

Posted by: will | Feb 27, 2013 7:14:46 PM

what did you expect? scroll back before the season and you probably see me saying they'd win 15-20.

the only reason we won 7 of the first 12 was because we were playing hurt teams. again....what are you complaining about? next year it will be ~30 wins. the next year 40ish and a 8 seed playoff birth. after that.....a bunch of 50 win seasons with a veteran core that's played together for 4 or 5 years.

again.....why are you complaining? it's a good thing we have another top 5 pick coming. and portland is currently sitting 13th from the bottom, so if they don't tank, we'll get that pick also.

plus cap room. plus another summer of work for the young'ns. hopefully involving biyombo training with olajuwon and ben wallace and shaq. and mutumbo.


if we won 35 games this year we would be drafting......12th? 13th? that would have been awesome. and i bet we would have developed a ton of young guys that way too. so we would win 35 games with an unsustainable team.

look this franchise was HORRIBLE for years. I was one of the biggest complainers there was. Mistake after mistake. the scouting department was like 2 dudes. it's gotten progressively better since MJ bought the team. stop complaining.

patience mfers.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 27, 2013 7:20:18 PM

Can someone explain this NASTARIS thing? I have seen the non stop comments. Always wondered what was up, but he used to work for the Bobcats? In what capacity. There have been some many coaching and front office changes, just wondering if that is where it is coming from?

Posted by: Hempstead | Feb 27, 2013 8:18:04 PM

4/25/2012. Rick Bonnell wrote...

"Jordan also said that while the Bobcats are in a rebuilding mode, he never anticipated a season where the team would finish last in the league, much less with what could be the worst winning percentage in NBA history."

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Again it says "never anticipated a season where the team would finish last...".

I get a kick out of it when you guys say these results were "expected" -- clearly they were not. Trust me, I know ;)

Slurp away...

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 27, 2013 11:33:00 PM

you expecting them to have won vs. me not having expected them to win.

that's the summation of this argument it seems. jordan might have said "i didn't think we'd be last" but cho clearly said when he got hired the same thing mark cuban always says. "nothing worse than being .500 chasing an 8 seed"

so yea.....you must feel smart having thought that a starting 5 with combined 8 years of experience coming into the season (4 years consisting of henderson and mullens not playing their first 2 years) was going to win more than 20 games. with a 19 and 20 year old both in the lineup. and another rookie in the rotation. a 26 year old being our "veteran".

come on dude. go try some snow mobile flips.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 27, 2013 11:40:47 PM

When you look at MKG's game, he really doesn't have any skills. He hustles, but that is all he has. He can't shoot, pass or defend. He was so over-valued at the #2 pick in the draft.

Posted by: Jon | Feb 27, 2013 11:41:54 PM

are you kidding me?! the only skill he lacks is a jump shot.

handle? check
passing, definite check.
defending one on one. check.
help defender, steals, shot blocking. check.
rebounding? check.
finish in traffic? check.
post up, check.

the kid is 19. its as if you guys never watch the games. or just started watching last week. 19 year olds don't have 25 and 12 in the nba on the regular. or dunk all over guys in traffic either.

yall are killing me.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 28, 2013 12:08:20 AM

This is you saying you knew this would happen, but the owner, MJ himself, said he never expected to finish last any year, much less 2 years in a row.

So you know better than MJ?

We suck at drafting. We've had 12 first round picks and have nothing to show for it. In terms of 1st rounders #2's should show up ready to play, #6 sure has. Our #7 blows, guy can't catch. Our #9 is the only guy holding up his end of the deal. I think he's the wrong guy for that job for the in long-run but that's another discussion.

Regardless of whether or not you are willing to acknowledge it The Plan is off the tracks. Remember, I was an insider, I know!

20-103

PS -- MJ is approaching 7 years of complete control so don't roll out the New Owner Thesis.

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 28, 2013 1:36:39 AM

Dim whittled goon..learn some basketball. Agreed the bigs suck. Biz will never ever pan out . He got exposed again playing w top talent in the Clippers. He has terrible hands and terrible lateral agility. Haywood is terribly slow like your brain. But Kemba , if he could pass has wings he can pass to all game . Wings idiot, are used by other teams all the time in the pick and roll as rollers ESP when the bigs are limited. But Dunlap , the coach you said is ok does not know how to implement the play used over 28 percent of the time by nba teams. He's an idiot like you.

Kemba never hits the roller bc he's a gunner, a runt , is selfish and Dunlap , your coach, never enforces it . Both you, Dunlap and your boy Kemba are idiots . He couldn't run a church league team . Can he play defense. No. Does he throw lobs . No. Does he throw back door passes. No. Does he dish on the break or try to out run everyone so he can force a shot w defenders on him. Does he ever hit a roller going to the basket . No . Then he can't pass idiot.

If Kemba can't pass , can't defend , can't make good decisions ESP in the 4 th , averages 3 turnovers a game and can't get his team into an offense, he sucks at point gd. He averages 11 more minutes a game than anyone. That means he's padding his stats when the games out of reach in the worthless 4 th qrtr when the other starters are sitting. You're not the poster of the future and he's not the pt gd of the future.

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 28, 2013 6:43:49 AM

Charlottean. Why waste time Here. NASTARiS situation has been clearly established. A former employee trolling away. This is what people like this do. Like it will change things in some way. Still fired and still bitter. Looks like it is only ramping up now. Was outed and picked the pace. Right out of the physchiatric handbook. You won't have time keep up now. Not that anyone did before. Sad part is, the behavior, belligerence, attitude, etc, were probably all reasons for the termination, but the person would never understand it without years of therapy. Therapy they won't accept because of whatever disorder they have. Their life is great, just perfect. Except for the compulsion to comment on anything Bobcat or Jordan related. Certainly has a personality disorder, but could be a PTSD maybe triggered by the termination. Either way, impossible to reason with. Might want to move on.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | Feb 28, 2013 7:00:47 AM

But leave this guy Nastaris alone. Who cares if he's a former disgruntled employee. They have an inalienable constitutional right to post too. He backs his claims up w facts unlike many posters . Yes he's ambivalent . But it's hard to argue against most of his postings as to the teams success. Many people look for his opinions ESP since Rick has acted mostly as a cheerleader for the Cats until this last article.

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 28, 2013 8:29:19 AM

nastar = cory higgins.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 28, 2013 10:09:58 AM

MKG=blatant bust

What is the value of a wing player with no shooting ability? Thats called a bench player. Every contender has wings that shoot lights out. thats how teams are built now. good defense at the wing doesn't really matter...even if he develops into all world defender he still won't slow down LeBron or Durant anyway

Posted by: formerfan | Feb 28, 2013 10:59:48 AM

Iron Woman defending his boyfriend NASCAR lol. I'm not wasting time with IW. I already explained this team has the worst front court in the NBA, but yet you still talk about passing.
You bash the leading scorer and leader on the team who surpassed the other two PG's who were drafted in points, assists, and steals.
He averages more steals then Henderson, but he can't defend? He scores more points then Henderson, but he sucks? He averages more assist then Henderson, but he can't pass?
I'm really starting to think your that "Louis" guy, especially with your hatred towards the best player on the team and plus your horrible abbreviations are showing; "PG GD"

Posted by: D.W.G. | Feb 28, 2013 11:59:13 AM

Iron man, thanks for the nice words but don't worry about me, I'm all good. People who make up stories and post about it under many many different names are as transparent as glass and have zero credibility. And you are right, "facts" are the crux of the issue -- the slurpers can't stand the facts. Facts = Truth. As Colonel Nathan R. Jessup said, they cannot handle the truth!

JFTR the BOOBcats know exactly who I am. Twice I've offered MJ the playoff bet for a 10 year term, radio silence.

16-125

Any guesses?

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 28, 2013 1:52:58 PM

kidd gilchrist is nowhere near the horrible shooter you guys make him out to be. he has an ugly shot that he manages to make. 45% from the field is obviously based mostly off dunks, but it's that way for most guys. he's 27th among small forwards in PER. as the youngest guy in the league. in a slump. and that includes at least 3 outliers who don't play much. a month and a half ago he was like 15th.

you don't label 19 year olds busts.


HE HAS THE SAME POINTS PER SHOT AS PAUL GEORGE. He basically is paul george in the making. give him 3 years.

patience mfers.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 28, 2013 2:36:43 PM

"Kemba will be in the Italian League"

"Bobcats will never amnesty Thomas"

"MJ is Cheap"

The Kemba comment doesn't deserve any response. Thomas is obviously on his way out. MJ spent 12 million to secure another first rounder for his team.

All statements made by Nastaris. What a joke. I will no listen to Dr. Dave's advice moving forward, but this just shows what a moron this guy is.

Posted by: Rev | Feb 28, 2013 2:49:24 PM

Hey NASTARIS, you were fired by the Bobcats? Now I get it. Keep on trolling. What a loser.

Posted by: Jaime | Feb 28, 2013 3:20:30 PM

jonathan Givony of DraftExpress in USA TODAY re: 2013 draft (one of the great hopes for the Bobcats is building through the draft):

"It's pretty slim pickings," Givony said. "I don't see any of these guys being franchise players. I don't know if any of them are going to be all-stars. I would probably bet against it right now. It's not a bad draft overall in terms of depth. There are good players at 20, 25, 30, 35. It's just that we're missing three really good players at the top to make this a very good draft."

So lose, lose, lose and the prize is: no all-stars. Maybe we could trade down (like we should have done last year?)

Posted by: alittledraftyatthetop | Feb 28, 2013 3:39:12 PM

There are all-stars in every draft. This is the one in the history of the NBA that is different? Yeah. That makes sense.

Posted by: Symbiotic | Feb 28, 2013 4:23:56 PM

^^^ exactly. draft analysts know little about actual potential. they're guessing like everyone else. that's why every year there are steals late and busts early.

Bobcats haven't had a problem of picking disasters, they've had a problem committing to the young guys with potential and developing them. that seems to be fixed now.
whoever we get will be good regardless of whether its mclemore, muhammad, zeller, noel....can't really see us going any other way with the early pick. assuming we get portland's pick we have a ton of options.


and if seth curry goes undrafted as projected..........he damn sure better be ours.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 28, 2013 6:36:33 PM

Rev, actually he spent $15,000,000 to get that first rounder. Thought he was also getting a scorer for 2 years with the money but as usual our player assessment model failed -- Ben Gordon is a bust.

Not only is he cheap, on the rare occasion he does spend some money he's dumb about it.

We'll see if you are right about Tyrus...and you just may be, but I have my doubts. If he amnesty's Tyrus I will be the first to say I was wrong. I just don't think MJ has it in him to let anyone off the hook like that. He'll pay him and make him come in and shag free throws every day or something like that. MJ will hold a grudge you know, still very mad at me!

I'm really getting under you guys skin aren't I? LOL, that was easy...

See that guy drop 54 on the Knick's last night? #7 pick....not only can he catch, he can dribble AND shoot!

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 28, 2013 7:01:16 PM

Direct quote from Rick Bonnell about MKG:

1. His inability to make jump shots is widely known, so teams guard him exclusively for the drive.

Don't shoot the messenger!! (again)

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Feb 28, 2013 7:03:02 PM

"Getting under people's skins, that was easy" only took you years of non stop negative posting. Sure. Real easy. Congrats you made it!!! What a dope.

Posted by: Stevo | Feb 28, 2013 8:26:17 PM

^^^^ha. Now that is the truth. Annoying people on the Internet. Now that is one noble pursuit. There should be a troll convention so all of these people can get together. Maybe a troll reality show. We could watch them pecking away non stop at their computers smirking when someone responded to one of their ridiculous posts. Awesome.

Posted by: James | Mar 1, 2013 7:03:19 AM

Dim whittled goon.. You're as dumb as Dunlap. Kemba averages more steals than Wade or any other shooting gd. That makes him a good defender? No .idiot. He plays the passing lanes to pad his stats instead of staying in front of his man, he gets taken in he lane by opposing pt gds more than any pt gd in the nba. He averages more assists than a sg . Wow . That makes him a passer? He can't throw lobs , back door passes or alley oops. If he could , that's what would make him a passer. Learn some basketball. And I'm Ironman. Not Louis . Iron woman is funny tho . I had to laugh. It's my second best joke I heard this wk . You being the first.

Posted by: Iron man | Mar 1, 2013 8:41:54 AM

Well many comments on here are just stupid and some are brilliant.

Bottom line I signed up for one more year but will not in following year if:
We are worst team in league 3 years in a row. Has that ever happened even?
We don't get hornets name back

At some point game plan has to not be league joke every year. I didn't mind finishing just out of playoffs or just in. It will be 3 years plus before we dream of that.

And as for comments-Kemba and Hendo are darn solid above average for the league on a team that has nothing else to guard against. Not its not CP3 and Wade but we don't pay them that either.
Gordon makes nearly top 20 salary in league. That is criminal.

Posted by: Season ticket holders | Mar 1, 2013 8:59:56 AM

The Kemba hate is overrated. Usually the same couple of clowns under different names. Some have even given up based on Kemba's performance as of late. If he can average 5 assists a game on this team, he would average 8 on almost any other team in the league.

The Gordons of the world are a dying breed. You will see no more ocntracts like that for marginal players. One reason why Jordan should be congratulated for his work on the CBA.

Posted by: Jaime T. | Mar 1, 2013 9:26:44 AM

"league joke"...you nailed it there STH.

BOOBcats are the laughingstock of the entire NBA. The single worst franchise out of 30 and as STH points out this could be the case 3 years in a row!

WORST TEAM EVER, in 2012. Now that takes some doing!

This is all on ownership and the Yes Co. management team. The players had no choice in how the team was picked, not their fault.

Until ownership changes this team will be a doormat.

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Mar 1, 2013 9:38:26 AM

Don't look now but things just got a little more complicated for our esteemed owner...

...maybe this is why he bought that big house on the lake?!?

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Mar 1, 2013 10:49:13 AM

^^^Glad to see that season ticket holder will be back with the actual fans of the team. I respect his comments.

I don't repsect a disgruntled former Bobcats employee. Not sure how you can even deny it based on the time invested in running down the team. There is really no other plausible explanation for it. No one would spend that kind of effort. As a matter of fact, no one else is. I am glad someone finally brought this to light. At least now people can look at your comments in context.

Posted by: Season Ticket Holder (2) | Mar 1, 2013 11:34:13 AM

^^^Someone said it was Cory Higgins, but it has been going on too long for that. Deinfitely a former employee. Can't imagine why they would fire someone like that :) Hater of all Haters. You might not like the Cats or Jordan. But the lengths this guy goes to is crazy. Hmmm.

Posted by: Hempstead | Mar 1, 2013 12:09:25 PM

Love seeing all these comments on the Cats. The interest in the team is insane. Imagine if they start playing well. Add another first Linder and a free agent and people will be going crazy next year.

Posted by: Jamison | Mar 1, 2013 5:29:12 PM

21-109 in the Kemba Era.

Posted by: NASTAR15 | Mar 14, 2013 9:08:47 PM

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