May 09, 2013
The arguments for and against Stephen Curry ever becoming a Charlotte Bobcat
Would Charlottean Stephen Curry ever come play for his hometown Bobcats?
During the lockout, when Curry was taking classes at Davidson the fall of 2011, he told the Observer he’s flirted with that thought. But now he’s an emerging star on the Golden State Warriors, and locked up to a four-year, $44 million contract that takes effect next season.
That means the earliest Curry could become a free agent is the summer of 2017, when he’d be 29 and eight seasons into his NBA career. He could still be in his prime then, and undoubtedly his presence would sell plenty of Bobcats tickets.
Curry might be the most entertaining player in these playoffs. He’s had some fantastic games as the Warriors’ point guard (44 points and 11 assists in Game 1 against the San Antonio Spurs). He was essential to the Warriors beating the Denver Nuggets in round 1, particularly after power forward David Lee went down with a hip injury.
There are solid arguments on both sides of whether Curry could ever be talked into becoming a Bobcat.
To the Bobcats’ benefit, Curry isn’t just from Charlotte, he’s still of Charlotte. He and his wife own a home in the area and plan to live there each off-season. He’s very close to his family, which has deep roots in Charlotte His father, Dell, a former Charlotte Hornet, is the Bobcats’ television color analyst.
By the tine Curry’s upcoming contract extension has expired he’ll be financially set for life. So where he plays after that could center on where he has the best chance to win.
The Bobcats had the worst record in the NBA over the past two seasons (28-120) but they’re building around youth (Kemba Walker, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Bismack Biyombo) and might have four first-round picks between the 2013 and 2014 drafts. So the tools are there to be good four seasons from now.
Now compare that to the Warriors: Curry might be Golden State’s best player, but he’s certainly not their only quality piece. Shooting guard Klay Thompson (who’s 23) and small forward Harrison Barnes (about to turn 21) are both talented and young. Lee is a better post-up scorer than any player in Bobcats history. The Warriors traded for a former No. 1 overall pick, Andrew Bogut, to fill a hole at center.
Beyond all that, Curry is important, if not crucial, to the Warriors’ future marketing. The franchise plans to move from Oakland to a new waterfront arena to be built in San Francisco.
Curry is wildly popular in the Bay Area. The Warriors’ new ownership group is quite rich – richer than Bobcats owner Michael Jordan – and they undoubtedly see the value, both on and off the court, of retaining Curry.
Those owners awarded Curry that $44 million extension last fall when he was working through a chronically sprained ankle. Now paying him $11 million a season looks like a bargain on the NBA scale. He’s going nowhere anytime soon.
So the Bobcats would face long odds in 2017. Certainly offering Curry a chance to come home to play works in their favor. But they'd have to convince him he'd be coming home with a chance to win an NBA championship.
Posted by Observer Sports on May 9, 2013 at 04:17 PM | Permalink
Unless things change dramatically with the Bobcats organization, I wouldn't like to see him playing here, he'd be miserable on the court.
The same goes for Chris Paul. These guys are much more fun to watch if they're associated with stable organizations that can surround them with talent.
Posted by: Nick | May 9, 2013 4:46:06 PM
I cant believe you wrote this article.
The Bobcats are almost as pathetic as the Panthers.
Posted by: John Fox | May 9, 2013 5:13:09 PM
Hear more about Curry on this site than the Bobcats or the coaching search. Curry is 3000 miles away and won't ever play here.
Posted by: Jason Warren | May 9, 2013 5:16:17 PM
Nick you save me time, thanks.
Posted by: GUESS WHO | May 9, 2013 5:45:39 PM
this is equally as far fetched as any star player signing here (lebron, dwight howard, melo, etc)
he's set in golden state. dude is going to wear one jersey. he'll get another big contract after the 4 years are up.
his brother is available. and he SHOULD be in a bobcats uniform next year. if they fail to get that done......they are equally as dumb as virginia tech was.
Posted by: charlottean | May 9, 2013 5:51:38 PM
So - Curry and Henderson came out in the same draft. Now - Henderson also came into his own this year and should be a star next season. Walker has improved and will contiune to improve. Add to those two Pargo, Sessions and Gordon and the Bobcats are just fine in the backcourt for a long time if the sign Henderson this offseason.
Now - what about the front court?
Center: Biyombo has improved but is a backup on the NBA level. So go out and sign Al Jefferson to fill that role.
Power forward: Resign McRoberts and Mullens. McRoberts is the better all around player so he should start but Mullens should still get 20 minutes off then bench and if he improves his overall play maybe you start him.
Small Forward: Yes - MKG is young... But you need a shooter at the THREE in the NBA.
Draft: I would draft Anothny Bennett or Otto Porter to compete with MKG at the THREE - or I would trade down to something like 10 and draft Mason Plumlee which would eliminate Mullens. Plumlee can play 4 and 5 at the next level - he is the safest pick in this draft. He is also a better defended, passer and rebounder than Mullens. He can't shoot from the perimter like Mullens - but that isn't what we need from our post guys anyway
If the Bobcats entered next season with McRoberts, Jefferson, Biyombo and Plumlee as the 4s and 5s I would like thier chances at winning 35 games
Posted by: DOM | May 9, 2013 6:06:11 PM
I gotta agree with ^^^^. Steph. Curry never will be a Bobcat. But if I was management..I would do whatever it takes to get Seth Curry in the late 1st or early 2nd round of this years draft. This includes trading our future 1st round pick from Detroit or Portland. He will be a great 6th man...and be just a notch below his brother and talents such as Monta Ellis and CJ McCollums. He could essentially be our JJ Redick. I'd have no problem giving up our 1st from either one of those teams. We have enough lottery picks on this team as is. Make this happen !!!
Posted by: bb1130 | May 9, 2013 6:17:19 PM
I stay up half the night watching Steph play. Would love to see Seth in Charlotte. I agree with the poster who said not to be like the VT coach. They fired him, you know.
Posted by: annnort | May 9, 2013 6:52:51 PM
Wouldn't life had been grand had we not selected DJ Augustink the prior year?
Had we made the right selection and taken Brook Lopez, we would have been in need of a PG with Raymond Fat Felton getting ready to hit free agency and maybe, just maybe the team could have seen how popular that Steph would have been in Charlotte.
What if games suck but, I'm happy we finally decided to blow the team up and build with youth and I like Kemba and Biz but, would Steph Curry and Brook Lopez be a much better foundation?
Oh well. Nothing to do but, look forward and hope we suck next year so we have a shot at Wiggins.
Posted by: Current Season Ticket Holder | May 9, 2013 8:29:41 PM
As far as Seth. He's not half as good as his Steph.
He's definately not worth a 1st round pick and we don't have a 2nd rounder so best case for us is that he goes undrafted and signs here as an undrafted FA.
I would love to have him here in Charlotte but, I just don't see it happening as I think he will get drafted mid to late 2nd round.
Posted by: Current Season Ticket Holder | May 9, 2013 8:32:24 PM
Exactly...we don't have a 2nd and he will get picked unless we make a move. Those 1st rounders we get from the trades prob. will not land here until the 2016 NBA Draft anyways which is why i'd be willing to make the move. I may have jumped the gun on saying he's almost as good as his brother...but he is def. as good as his Dad and can be our version of JJ Redick. I'm just saying that if I could get a McLemore or Noel and then trade that future asset for the chance to get Seth...i'd do it. A Noel/Curry or Mclemore/Curry draft would be worth it..just my opinion.
Posted by: bb1130 | May 9, 2013 9:51:28 PM
But I def. agree with Wiggins or Parker for 2014. Even though I think the basketball Gods will never allow that to happen. Tim Duncan..Tony Parker and Ginobli will all tear their ACL'S next year causing them to miss the playoffs. And will miss the post-season by one spot. And with like a 0.7% chance of getting the #1 pick they will somehow get it and win another 3 titles over the next 10 years. At which point i'll just laugh and start watching tennis.
Posted by: bb1130 | May 9, 2013 9:58:55 PM
You people in Charlotte are amazing. You constantly bash the home town team. Look, the Bobcats are a young organization with a young team and it will take a while for them to win.
The mindless fools just keep regurgitation what they hear in the media. I think the Bobcats organization has made some good pick in the past couple years and are in a good position financial to make some good move. I am a home-team fan and I will be behind the Cats, good or bad. It takes time to win.
With that said, I think the cats should get the BEST player in the draft...........Ben McLemore of Kansas. Forget need; get the best player in draft. And if you can get the other Curry kid somewhere in there also, that would be a coup.
Posted by: DLew | May 9, 2013 10:08:18 PM
Every time Curry takes a dump on the west coast, it is front page news here. He'll flame out and be a me-first ball hog like his dad and never play defense and have just as many championships.....zero.
As for dumb dunce MJ and the Boobcats, do you think they would ever have the sense to sign Curry or any other average player? What a laugh.
Posted by: Phil | May 10, 2013 1:08:36 AM
@DLew People like you are the reason The BOOBCATS are so bad. With that attitude we will never win. Spoken like a real looser!
Posted by: GUESS WHO | May 10, 2013 1:21:53 AM
You have zero bigs but you take Mclemore . Lol. He's terrible . No dribble drive . Low bb iq .cant perform in big games . Does zero when he doesn't have the ball . Lopez over Augustine . Faried over Biz . Kept Felton . This team would be rocking now .
Posted by: Iron man | May 10, 2013 6:40:27 AM
Dell Curry was a me first ball hog? Say what now? @Phil
Posted by: Taro Baap | May 10, 2013 8:47:03 AM
I can't believe an article was written about a player joining a team in 2017. Seriously Rick? Seriously?
Posted by: Jeff Otah | May 10, 2013 10:25:43 AM
WISHFUL THINKING , why would curry want to play here or any other free agent.bobcats are the worst run team in the nba. MJ can't draft or run the team.kimba is a backup on any other team,MKG can't shoot he's a 3.
Posted by: waltbaby | May 10, 2013 10:35:53 AM
im a loyal bobcats fan...the bobcats need to concentrate on getting our team better now. not worrying about steph he's in GS til 2017 its 2013. we have a high draft pick and some cap money let's get busy!!!!!
Posted by: wayne jr | May 10, 2013 10:46:38 AM
Still no word on the name change huh MJ? That is honestly the ONLY exciting thing that may or may not happen to this franchise.
Curry (steph) is an after thought at this point. Best bet would be his brother because the so called top picks in this draft are almost all hurt or simply not that good.
Kemba, Biz, and MKG are awful pieces to try and build around. Kemba can't play defense, MKG has no offense, and Biz has no basketball IQ. That's a terrible foundation.
Face it, the BOBcats have made some absolutely horrible choices in draft picks. Not only that, but they have made some head scratching moves as far contracts and players here.
Posted by: D.W.G. | May 10, 2013 11:32:52 AM
No top level free agent is going to want to play for a bad team.. Especially a bad team with the dumbest name and terrible brand in pro sports. A few of you say the name does not matter. If you are shopping for a car, would you want the ugly car or the nice car that runs better? Same thing with free agents in the NBA..not only do they look at their potential for success but the brand and how they can market themselves as well. Its hard enough being a small market in a league that favors large markets as is! Having a terrible brand that is dead last in merchandise sales ever year makes it worse. I cant believe that MJ and company have taken this long on a decision to rebrand. ..What should be such a no brainer. But then again, with this group running this team..i can believe it.
Posted by: Nate Smith | May 10, 2013 12:12:03 PM
To the guy that said we should give up one of our future first rounders to get Seth Curry......
Um no, please stop.
Posted by: Jason Warren | May 10, 2013 12:43:46 PM
No one..no star. Not even home grown such as Steph, is going to want to play for a bad team, terribly run organization with a terrible name and brand. Few wins, Half empty arenas unless the opposing teams fans fill it up... Dead last in merchandise sales every season, No idenity on top of being a small market in a league where the big lights of the large market rule. If this team does not start winning and change its brand to something that the people of this city can get behind and have pride in, we will not have an NBA franchise here when the arena deal with the team and city runs out! You mark that down and take it to the bank!! To the few of you that say the name does not matter, notice i said WINS along with a rebrand. (You can have both, you know) You have to be able to give top level free agents reasons to want to play here. Charlotte is a beautiful city, up and coming. A wonderful place to raise a family. But to most of the NBA players of today, that alone wont sale . Sad but true.
Posted by: Nate Smith | May 10, 2013 1:29:22 PM
My poop looks really weird today!
Posted by: PoopMan McGee | May 10, 2013 2:54:37 PM
me first players don't average 9 assists per game in the playoffs.
you guys down on biz and MKG have got to realize how young these dudes are. mkg was the youngest rookie and was easily a top 5 rookie this year. He had some HUGE games as the youngest guy in the league.
Biz is a top 10 shot blocker each of the last 2 years. and he's 20.
those 2 guys will be very very very good by the time they are 25.
brook lopez is a good scorer but a mediocre player overall. that's why his team is out already. if he was as elite as charlotte fans make him out to be, he wouldn't be getting handled by noah. especially with rose, hinrich, and deng all out.
seth curry campaign needs momentum. there is absolutely no reason why that dude shouldn't be wearing number 30 next year with charlotte on the front. no effing reason.
Posted by: charlottean | May 10, 2013 3:34:18 PM
EXACTLY !!! All these people want to see Steph Curry become a Bobcat when his deal runs out...what better way to entice him than having his younger brother wearing a Bobcat Jersey. I'm all for it. Seth will be a Dell/Reddick 3 point specialist off the bench. I will say it again...do what you gotta do to get him in the late 1st..early 2nd.
Posted by: bb1130 | May 10, 2013 4:47:00 PM
It is amazing Bonnell would write such an article, an article with no relevance whatsoever.
The BOOBcats are not a "new organization". They have 9 seasons under their belt and MJ has been at the helm for 7. The team has a single playoff appearance and has only set records for futility since.
The Hornets made the playoffs 3 times in their first 9 years and won a playoff series. In years 10-14 they made the playoffs 4 of 5 years and won two more playoff series.
So in the first 14 years the Hornets advanced to the playoffs 7 times. I bet the BOOBcats don't make they playoffs in the next 5 years which will leave them 1 for 14.
Posted by: NASTAR14 | May 12, 2013 5:33:17 PM
MKG finished 8th on the Official NBA Rookie ladder.
7 players drafted after MKG outperformed him as rookies.
Posted by: Mr. Stern | May 13, 2013 8:52:24 AM
right....because the nba.com rookie ladder is the official measure of who did what.
lillard clearly outplayed him. barnes is outplaying everybody by being an impact player on a playoff team. but everyone else?
beal? davis? drummond? ross? waiters? valancunius? harkless? all a wash with MKG. most of them just played better later on while MKG played better early and then got hurt a bit. but he's the youngest of the bunch and had some MONSTER games this year.
if you have any doubt about him being a better version of rudy gay, you didn't watch him this year.
Posted by: charlottean | May 13, 2013 3:00:39 PM
Remember me? I was a hometown fave to play for the Cats, but I took my talents to LA, and uhh, look how that turned out.
Posted by: Antawn Jamison | May 14, 2013 12:13:00 PM
The numbers don't lie. You are letting your emotions cloud your judgement. MKG is a nice kid but it's highly unlikely he ever justifies being picked at #2.
Posted by: Mr. Stern | May 14, 2013 2:18:48 PM
Seth Curry is not worth a 1st round pick. He's hardly worth a 2nd rounder. He's Trajan Langdon 2.0. Like Langdon, he'll be a star in Europe, but a 10th or 11th man in the NBA. I tell ya, Charlotte fans are WAY too hung up on getting "local" players. The Bobcats are in the NBA, not the ACC. Everyone wanted J.R. Reid and look how that turned out. Everyone wanted Felton and May and look how that turned out (at least with May). Concentrate on getting the best players (whether through the draft or free agency) NO MATTER WHERE they played college ball and we might actually be contenders one day.
Posted by: Don | May 14, 2013 3:35:55 PM
so his brother absolutely dominating the nba right now has NOTHING to do with those of us who want seth. it has NOTHING to do with the fact that his dad was a stellar 6th man for over a decade. it has nothing to do with the fact that the guy scored 17+ a game in the ACC on one leg last year.
trajan langdon had a very nice career overseas after not getting much of a chance in the nba.
who would you rather have....ben gordon or seth curry?
Posted by: charlottean | May 14, 2013 9:35:04 PM
charlottean, what position would you anticipate Seth playing for the BOBcats?
Posted by: NASTAR14 | May 15, 2013 8:57:30 AM
PS...much prefer Curry to Gordon but he has another $13,000,000 coming next year and isn't going anywhere.
PPS...any news on the Tyrus front? Amnestied?
Posted by: NASTAR14 | May 15, 2013 8:59:04 AM
curry takes ben gordon's role but improves it. He comes off the bench as the backup 2 but plays pg in small doses as well. Or you pair him with a big ball handler on the 2nd unit and he plays the 2 and guards the one.
either way. you can tell him from day one he's a pg and leave it at that. He'll get there. People keep saying how he's not his brother, but his college resume sure begs to differ. that ACC tourney game looked very stephish.
but even if he isn't. gerald wilkins wasn't a top 10 pick, but he was a solid pro for YEARS.
I think your best case scenario is a typical brother situation where you don't know which one is better than the other. the worst case scenario is a gerald/dominique situation. for a 2nd round or undrafted guy......hometown guy......where is the risk? no matter what he's getting less than a million a year. he's absolutely worth being the 15th man on the roster NO QUESTION so where is the hate coming from? it's illogical.
no effing way this is taylor griffin vs. blake griffin. or luke zeller. those were older brothers not younger brothers and they didn't have the resumes to match either.
Posted by: charlottean | May 15, 2013 5:06:59 PM
charlottean, Seth Curry is not Stephon Curry or Dell Curry any more than Wesley Person was Chuck Person or Ralph Sampson III was Ralph Sampson. He's too short to be a full-time 2 guard and he hasn't shown any signs of being able to be an effective point guard. His assist to turnover ratio is barely above 1:1. He's a good 3-point shooter, but his overall shooting % is quite poor at 43% for his career. That's the only dimension of his game that even makes it worth taking a look at him, and he's not even "great" at that. So, he's one-dimensional, he's a 2-guard in a point guard's body, has a very poor AST/TO ratio, has shown that he is an "above average" shooter, but hardly a great one, doesn't show much defensive promise...so, again, why do we need him, other than the fact that he's an ACC player and from Charlotte? As far as whether I would prefer Seth Curry or Ben Gordon? Well, my description of Seth Curry above pretty much also describes Ben Gordon at this stage of his career, so I would have to say "neither".
Posted by: Don | May 16, 2013 2:47:57 PM
Don is spot on, seth is too small to play 2 consistently and shooting is the only decent part of his game and even that isn't holeproof. there is no comparison to Steph, he will be a superstar,
Posted by: Marc | May 17, 2013 10:49:43 AM
don I can't say you're reading the stat's logically.
He shot 47% from the field last year with over half of his attempts being 3's and a large chunk of his 2's being jumpers. That's incredibly good rates for jump shooting. His TS% and eFG%'s are well above average.
Assist to turnover while playing the 2 is completely different than assist to turnover playing the 1. He's NOT the passer his brother is, but he also hasn't been in a position to show it either. steph put up the same kind of numbers until his jr. year when he played point the whole year.
and you HAVE to factor in that the ACC schedule is NOTHING like davidson's.
size? they are the same. 6-2 180. steve kerr will tell you that doesn't affect a jump shot. david wesley made a career playing the 2 at 6 feet. jason terry is about that size.
wesley person was an 11 year nba player who averaged double figures 7 of those years. chuck person was not THAT much better than him. he scored closer to 20 than 10 during his prime but we're talking about minutes/teams differences. the per 36 and shooting numbers are very close. I think this is actually the perfect comparison. I know that steph is better, but it's not taylor griffin blake griffin. It's way more wesley/chuck.
we're talking about a guy who will be a late 2nd rounder or go undrafted. You're talking about the ultimate low risk high reward scenario. at absolute worst, the guy is an elite shooter. how is that NOT worth a 2nd round pick or an undrafted 1 year minimum contract.
How is that even worth arguing about? I get debating the ish out of who we take at the top of the draft. but debating whether seth is worth a minimum nba contract is insane. absolutely insane. it's the exact same mind set that had people passing on him and his brother's recruiting in college.
Posted by: charlottean | May 17, 2013 11:19:49 AM
In other news, CBS reports the BOBcats have begun the process to change the name to HORNETS AGAIN!!!!!!
Posted by: D.W.G. | May 18, 2013 7:40:31 AM
charlottean, it is insane to argue about whether we should take him in the 2nd round, because we have no 2nd round pick. I never said that he was undraftable, I said that he was barely worth a 2nd round pick...meaning that I could see him possibly going mid to late 2nd. One-dimensional players are fine to have if you're already a good team, because other multi-faceted players can make up for that. On a poor team, like the Bobcats, they're a disaster. Look at how much better the Bobcats played after getting McRoberts, who's not great at anything, but good at everything. Look at how competitive they were when Mullens and Kemba got double-doubles instead of just concentrating on scoring. Seth's a shooter...that's it. And, let's be honest, he is not the shooter his brother is and his Dad was. When we start winning 45 games per year, then we can look to fill a particular hole with a one-dimensional player. Until then, we have to draft/sign players who are good at more than one thing if we want to be competitive. Seth would be good for a team like Memphis...to come of the bench for 10-12 minutes per game and hoist up 3's. On the Bobcats, he'd need to do more than that and he simply can't.
Posted by: Don | May 19, 2013 12:47:10 PM
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