July 12, 2013
Thoughts on a day Bobcats free agent Gerald Henderson wisely went fishing...
Gerald Henderson went fishing Thursday. I know that because he sent out a tweet, and the water was a beautiful blue.
I mention that to illustrate that Henderson isn’t sweating this whole free-agent dance. Perhaps the rest of us should take a cue from that. Five thoughts on where Henderson’s restricted free-agency might be headed:
THE BOBCATS WANT HIM BACK: They are wary of overpaying, but there’s no doubt they value him. Sometimes the Bobcats get a bad rap for not making an effort to retain their free agents. They offered more to Raymond Felton and D.J. Augustin than either of those two got in the contracts they signed upon leaving the Bobcats.
TIME MIGHT BE ON THE BOBCATS’ SIDE: It’s my experience the longer restricted free-agency plays out the more likely it is the player is back with his team, at least on the qualifying offer.
Offer sheets – particularly the successful ones that change a player’s team – tend to come quickly into July. Then money dries up in a way that corrects the market.
EXPLORING OPTIONS: Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports – a terrific sportswriter – reported early Thursday morning that the Bobcats were exploring potential sign-and-trade options regarding Henderson. That’s correct. But be careful about overstating how important, much less ominous, that sounds.
If the Bobcats weren’t exploring their options, then that’s when there should be a fan outcry. Making a deal that would be good for three parties – the Bobcats, a trade partner and Henderson – is a complicated process that can fall apart easily.
ELLIS? Would the Bobcats consider ending up with free agent Monta Ellis as an alternative to Henderson? Yes, hypothetically. But the guy already turned down an extension from the Milwaukee Bucks that would have paid him about $12 million a season. That’s reason to think twice.
OTHER FACTORS: Ben Gordon is a sizeable expiring contract if someone wants to trim future payroll. Jeff Taylor is someone the Bobcats hope evolves into an impactful player.
Posted by Observer Sports on July 12, 2013 at 01:07 AM | Permalink
The Bobcats have no guards taller than 6'3" and only one true shooting guard on the roster (Gordon). Where is the perimeter defense going to come from?
Posted by: Airbrush87 | Jul 12, 2013 1:56:20 AM
T-Wolves is the team wanting Henderson LET HIM GO,,Horncats are better now anyway..
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 2:54:14 AM
I also read that Chicago is going to try to make a trade for Ellis. so it's going to come down to ATL, SAC, CHA, CHI..read dallas was done shopping for backcourt players.
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 3:01:00 AM
The BOBcats get a bad rap because players who become free agents want out of the BOBasylum so badly they take less money to go elsewhere.
How about that Whitfield Hoopty Golf Tourney?
"Fred" shows up in a white tee-shirt, Fred Sanford would have been embarrassed. Moses has on a dress, who knows what altered Two Tall's mind before he got that tattoo?
Next year call it The Idiot Invitational. Too bad the old Eastwood course has closed, that would be the prefect place to host it.
And "Fred" has a TOP Job with Air Min?!?!?!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Jul 12, 2013 3:03:44 AM
Hey NASTAR99 NO DISRESPECT the other night man,,,I enjoy your and Charlotean opinions..Yall keep this blog moving.
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 3:21:45 AM
I'm OK if Henderson leaves because he is not a building block. The team desperately needs more outside shooting from this position in order to stretch defenses.
Posted by: buckshot jenkins | Jul 12, 2013 7:00:57 AM
Nice NASTAR. Fred Whitfield puts on a charity event and a camp that allows over 200 underprivilidged kids to take part for free and you insult him? I know because I volunteered at both. He was going back and forth from the camp to the tournament all day. Very disappointing comments to say the least. I guess his attire is more important than the community work he was doing.
Posted by: Don | Jul 12, 2013 7:16:19 AM
Gerald Henderson is a backup Shooting Guard. If MJ wants to give Hendo $5 Million per, Gerald should appreciate it and enjoy live as a rotation player coming off the bench. If Gerald thinks he is worth more than that, he needs to check his ego at the door.
Henderson will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER be an All-Star player. Monta Ellis IS a perennial All-Star. The Hornets will target Shooting Guard next year with their number 1 pick in 2014, as this is their weak link. Everyone knows it.
Posted by: No More Seatcushions? | Jul 12, 2013 7:40:40 AM
In the 2014 NBA Draft, the Hornets will target the Harrison Twins from Kentucky, PJ Hairston from UNC, Marcus Smart from Oklahoma St, Gary Harris from Michigan State, and possibly even Mario Hezonja from Croatia.
As for the 2014 free agency period, neither Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade are coming to Charlotte (they would not consider it), and outside of Thabo Sefolosha, it is slim pickings here. Flash Gordon comes off the books after this year and I seriously doubt he will stick around for minimum money (he has had his last fat pay day).
I said the Bobcats should go after Al Jefferson, and they did. Next, I will inform you that Gerald Henderson, even if he sticks around, will NOT be a NBA starter after this year. The closest he will ever get to an All-Star Game is to watch it on TV. Hendo is a rotation player and can easily be replaced. Former Bobcats Shannon Brown, Jared Dudley, or even J Rich would be an upgrade over Henderson.
Know your place, Gerald Henderson, or you will find out what it is like to hop from team-to-team.
Posted by: No More Seatcushions? | Jul 12, 2013 7:50:02 AM
Because oƒ the time ƒactor he will probably stay put and be a big help this coming season. I see the Bobcats/Hornets doing much better than "experts" think. Good young players and an exceptional coaching staƒƒ.
Posted by: jiminmaine | Jul 12, 2013 8:09:31 AM
When you see nastar post its always ALWAYS going to be negative, have BOBcats in it or BOOBcats guess it depends on how he feels that day...I haven't seen air mininum in a while...I wonder what joke its going to be when we change to the hornets? HORnuts possibly? Its like those guys who always say scam when they refer to cam newton,.can't take the post to serious...
Posted by: freeze8575 | Jul 12, 2013 8:30:10 AM
seat cushion....let me sit for a minute....
when was monta ellis ever an all star let alone a perennial all star as you described him?
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 8:42:26 AM
Gerald will eventually sign the QO and be back with the team next season for $4.2M. Next season he will enter unrestricted free agency.
We will draft his replacement in next years draft.
Posted by: Season Ticket Holder | Jul 12, 2013 8:44:28 AM
For those of you that are bashing Henderson, you obviously didn't watch any of their games. I challenge you to go back and look at his game logs. The last 3 months, he and Walker were arguably the best back court in the league. He is a solid defender and has an improved outside game. I think we would be getting great value is we gave him a 5yr/25mil contract. It's hard to become an All-Star in this league when your team can't break .500 winning pct. I'm all for signing Hendo and look forward to seeing Walker/Hendo/MKG/Zeller/Jefferson on the court together.
Posted by: Matt | Jul 12, 2013 8:46:53 AM
Thanks Freeze. To bad people are so cynical especially around something like this. Team peformance, players, coaching. I understand that. But criticizing someone on how they are dressed while conducting charitable work? That is really sad. I wonder how that person gave back yesterday? Probably can make something up and say he was well dressed while doing it. But everyone knows the truth. Some people are just bad people. No way around it I guess.
Posted by: Don | Jul 12, 2013 9:08:21 AM
Seat cushion .. You have to be an idiot . Ellis is garbage . He's a volume shooter , undersized , selfish and can't play defense . Henderson averaged 19 a game when healthy and plays lock down defense . You have to be pretty stupid if you think that's a role of a bench player . He's a triple threat in dribble drives , getting to the line , mid range n post up . Only 7 players averaged over 20 points last yr . Learn bb.
Posted by: Iron man | Jul 12, 2013 9:11:48 AM
Matt: I'm in total agreement with you. I do think we could shorten the contract in years and offer up to $6.5-7.5M for 3 years and a 4th at the player's option.
I really enjoyed Henderson's leadership presence and attitude with so many kids on this team the last two years. He was exceptional after the All-Star break. He plays extremely hard and his game is a pleasure to watch. He wants to win (and it shows) and it would be most enjoyable to see him do even better this year (improved every year in the league)and it coincide with a winning basketball team.
If we sign Hendo and the team avoids the injury bug, this team will win 37-42 games this year. I figured on 29-35 before Big Al was signed.
Lock him up and let's see if he can remain a starter and if not, fine, he'd be a great 6th man. Last time I checked, every good to great NBA team had at least 3-4 very solid bench players and he certainly fits that bill. Sign HENDO and let's start gelling!
Posted by: Murdock | Jul 12, 2013 9:14:01 AM
Hey NASTAR. Nice Fred Sanford comment you racist POS. Could not find anything else to comapre him? Go F yourself. Nice to know you are ignorant about basketball, hate the Bobcats and a racist. Spare me the weak explanation.
Posted by: Thomas | Jul 12, 2013 9:30:34 AM
NASTAR nailed it. What a pathetic "celebrity" tournament.
Sad to see Rivera out there, b guilt is the only reason he showed.
I am ok with signing henderson, don't overpay though.
Posted by: big gulps | Jul 12, 2013 9:48:37 AM
^^^OK NASTAR. Don't pretend there a white sheeters out there to support your cause. I have something big you can gulp. What an effing POS you are.
Posted by: Thomas | Jul 12, 2013 9:58:05 AM
I know it's early on.....and a lot of things can change in 12 months.......but as it stands now......there aren't any legit shooting guard prospects in the top 25 or 30 of next year's draft except aaron harrison and a few euro prospects that do not figure to be coming over any time soon based on their age and current contracts.
and these are the great talents that will be free agents next summer:
avery bradley (who will probably stay put)
lance stephenson (again, probably staying put unless we overpay)
sefolosha (again, probably staying put)
evan turner (restricted)
gordon hayward (restricted)
so yeah....let's keep all of that in mind when we're talking "let henderson walk, we can replace him easily".
unless you think jeff taylor is NO DOUBT better than henderson, there's no reason to let henderson walk. at all. barring a major trade.
and so we're all clear....eric gordon's and his injuries and max contract would probably easily be available for henderson and expiring. could not imagine that being a good idea either but I like it more than ellis. i like evan turner more than both. minny has nothing to offer us unless it's schved and 2014 1st. otherwise......noooo way.
for all the screaming for an upgrade.......show me where the upgrade is available. it's hard to upgrade from a top 15 SG when the top 7 or 8 are untouchable and the other few in front of hendo are way overpaid or horrible fits for the team.
let's be realistic about the options there.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 10:02:13 AM
let me note.....regarding the draft.....p.j. hairston will probably be a mid-late 1st rounder and I think he's an absolute NBA talent. not too many other college guys poised for breakout years at the 2 guard spot.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 10:29:34 AM
sign and trade options don't look good as far as t=wolves are involved. who do they have other than the players they just signed..Martin,Pekovic,Brewer,LOVE,Rubio,Williams who has been mentioned several times..I don't want any of the T wolves..
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 10:30:28 AM
they have dieng, brown, schved, and 3 2014 2nd rounders. their 1st rounder is top 13 protected but going to phoenix otherwise. they would have to give up every asset they have to even get in the conversation and it's still not that enticing. but it would be wayyyy better than letting henderson walk.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 10:49:26 AM
you got to look at their past,,I was a big Felton fan. Bobcats usually re-sign the wrong players,,Carroll,Thomas,Okafor,, Gerald Wallace is only exception and they overpaid for him..
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 11:09:35 AM
Being Wallace back.......Jason Kidd was gone let him bring the ball up in Brooklyn! Put him at the two........he he big threes in the playoff against Chicago! And he play defense!
Posted by: Rock | Jul 12, 2013 11:17:21 AM
Derrick Williams TWolves contract is not that bad with a team option next year. Trade Henderson for Williams. They could probably still add Ellis if they want but I'd just go with Gordan\Williams\Sessions for now. Its up in the air what Williams can be but talent is there!
Posted by: Brian | Jul 12, 2013 11:18:42 AM
as much of a ballhog Gordon is and a liability on defense,,that might be our only option,,Gordon is probably going to show up this year, if he doesn't sour up the looker room 1st, he wants that new contract from someone...I don't watch the T-Wolves, but they said at the end of the season(TANKTIME)Williams put a string of decent games together..His rookie deal will be over soon..
Posted by: JC | Jul 12, 2013 11:31:08 AM
Another interesting option would be to try to wrestle Harrison Barnes away from Golden State. It might cost a #1 pick (from Portland) and Henderson but that pick is Top 12 protected anyway. Barnes played good in the playoffs and is 21. Star on the rise that can score. Plus they just signed Iggy so maybe they'd entertain it.
Posted by: Brian | Jul 12, 2013 11:47:51 AM
Paul George will be a restricted free agent next summer. He can play SG or SF. I say we target him as our SG. Offer max money. See if he takes it, whether the Pacers match.
Otherwise we could go after Chris Bosh. Play him and Zeller on the court at the same time, and you wouldn't need the outside shooting from our guard and small forward. We'd be getting it from our bigs.
You'd also be free, then, to swing Jefferson for a SG if you like. Or keep him and find a SG in the draft.
These moves all become possible if we don't overpay Henderson or another guard now. We could have up to 30 million in cap space next summer. And someone will want to get paid.
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 11:50:02 AM
Iron Man, you have to be brain damaged, with an IQ of 75!
If you think Gerald Henderson is anything more than a rotation player, you don't belong on this thread. Please, go back to bowling and NASCAR you phuckin' dope. Yeah, the entire NATION knows the value of these players, Ellis and Hendo, and they are all wrong about it...in your little mind. Sorry, but those who are NOT BIAS, who study these things and those who can objectively compare Shooting Guards ALL KNOW that Gerald Henderson is a scrub.
Now, if you want to take your 75 IQ, your inability to comprehend or read what the National Writers are saying about the comparisons, and form your own conclusions, that is entirely up to you. In fact, you probably believe that Michael Jordan was the greatest NBA player ever (which he wasn't...perhaps the best marketed NBA player of all time, though). You're the guy who has an Adam Morrison Fathead still on your wall, right next to Sean May.
Please, this Charlotte team is going to upgrade the Shooting Guard position, so Hendo knows his days as a starter are numbered.
Posted by: No More Seatcushions? | Jul 12, 2013 12:48:49 PM
Let him walk, he's a joke!
Posted by: Me | Jul 12, 2013 1:09:08 PM
Anyone ever notice how Charlottean defends ever Charlotte Bobcat player, exclaiming that they are simply awesome?
Anyone ever look at the Bobcats record? 250 Wins, 476 Losses
Yet, we should always say our Bobcat players are the best, right Charlottean? Well, when you win some NBA Titles, please come back to me. Sure, I am a Charlotte NBA fan, but I don't go off saying this team is great. It had one decent, winning season in existence.
Gerald Henderson on any other team would simply be a backup player. Notice that no one is beating down the door to sign him?
Posted by: No More Seatcushions? | Jul 12, 2013 1:43:32 PM
yeah you obviously never read too good because i only defend the few guys we've had worth keeping.
you shouldn't be allowed to talk until monta ellis becomes an all-star.
and yeezus christ west there is NO EFFING WAY that indiana isn't going to match every offer for paul george. they have granger coming off the books right in time to give george max money. yeah so let's target a guy that there's absolutely no effing way we can ever get. great strategy.
harrison barnes? golden state is NOT trading that dude for anything less than an elite talent. playing derrick williams at the 2? i swear we have the dumbest fan base in the league.
for the henderson detractors screaming for an upgrade. please name a reasonable upgrade option that we have. please. NAME the options.
seat cushion, be quiet, he's still not an all-star.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 1:54:59 PM
Fine. If Indiana wants to give George max money, we take Stephenson for 7 per year instead. I would much rather him at that price than Henderson at more. Or even the same. Stephenson is the superior defender. Has much more big game experience, and the ability to score in bunches. He would score way more on Bobcats than he does for Indiana.
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 2:09:16 PM
I wouldn't mind having stephenson either, but I would imagine they keep him also. He might leave for BIG money, but that mid level money, they'll probably match.
Either that or they'll deal him at the deadline this year......if we resign henderson, that might be a deal we could make happen. but not if we let him walk like the idiot crowd is clamoring for. henderson will ALWAYS be tradeable.
indiana has 30.4 million for 2014-15 committed to hibbert, hill, green, mahinmi, and plumlee. add in 12 for west, 1 for johnson, something like 2 for watson, 14 for george, that totals to just under 60 for 9 players. makes it tough to see them giving 7 million to stephenson, but not impossible. they could easily dump gerald green between now and then.
they won't go over the tax but you're talking at least 71 million. 7 million to stephenson plus 3 minimum contracts doesn't put them over even if they had to keep green which I doubt they have to.
not likely we can land stephenson at all. not without resigning henderson and trading him at the deadline and that would probably require stephenson either playing himself into a 10 million a year type deal or playing himself into the doghouse where indiana doesn't even want him anymore.
think about these things logically and you'll see why it's so important we resign henderson. the options for us are just not out there for this season or next. after that? sure, maybe. but you're talking 2 full seasons.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 2:24:07 PM
Nastar and l'll Jeff........2 Redneck nascar racists with no basketball knowledge.
Posted by: 3pt expert | Jul 12, 2013 2:25:14 PM
By the way, in a recent interview, Larry Bird, again running the Pacers, has said that the team will not pay the luxury tax because they can't afford it.
So even after Granger comes off the books, there is no way the Pacers can afford to keep Hibbert, West, and Hill AND fill out the roster AND re-sign Stephenson and George who are both restricted free agents in 2014. Make a play for both of them, drive up the cost for George, then sign Stephenson to one of these front or backloaded contracts that the Pacers can't afford to match.
Then we can get Stephenson for a salary averaged out to around 7 or 8 million. Done. Whatever you think of Henderson, he has almost zero big game experience. A team needs guys who have gone deep in the playoffs. You always need one of those guys.
That alone gives Stephenson added value over Henderson even if you assume they are about equal otherwise. But I think most basketball diehards would prefer Stephenson anyway because of his defensive ability and scoring potential.
Look at what happened January 12, 2013 head-to-head. Stephenson scored 17 points on on 8-13 from the field and 1-3 from three. He also pulled down 7 rebounds, grabbed 4 steals, had 2 assists, and a block against Henderson. Henderson, meanwhile, shot a respectable 6-12 from the field, but a lower percentage than Stephenson, which was good for only 12 points (5 less) while going 0-1 from 3 with 2 rebounds (5 less), 3 assists (1 more), 0 steals (4 less), 0 blocks (1 less) and 3 turnovers (1 more) in a Bobcats loss.
So, yeah, I'd rather the guy who is better on the boards, better on defense, as good or better from the field, and who has more big game, bright lights experience.
Where is the debate?
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 2:33:54 PM
I think stephenson has a slight advantage on henderson talent and ability and a clear ego advantage that leads me to believe he could be bigger than he's supposed to be. but he also has that wild card to him where he's not exactly the smartest guy either.
that all said, I broke down above how indiana CAN afford to do all of those things AND stay below the tax.
so if stephenson is the target what are we talking? sign and trade for henderson NOW? can't do it unless we include granger or green or some other parts to keep indiana under the tax for this year while still moving henderson. not a likely deal.
so we're going to let henderson walk now.........so that we can target stephenson Next summer?! he's a restricted free agent. they could resign him, they could trade him, he could just not want to come here, etc. etc. etc.
the better scenario would be resign henderson now. try to trade for stephenson, and if not, still go after him next summer. if you get stephenson you either have henderson as your 6th man or you can trade him.
but you don't let henderson walk now under the highly unlikely assumption that you will land stephenson next summer without grossly overpaying for him.
so yes we can make a run at stephenson but it isn't a LIKELY scenario. name another.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 2:45:52 PM
Look, I've said before, sign Henderson now if it's for the right money, but I'm starting to think that's about 5-6 million per year. After that, yes, I'd rather lose Henderson or trade him for a couple of second round picks, as you suggested.
If we had to let Henderson go, we get three bights at the apple.
1) Without Henderson we pick a spot or two lower in the draft with Gordon starting at SG (3 spots if you're correctly assessing Henderson's value). That probably lands us a 5-7 pick where, in this draft, we have a high probability of finding a guy as good as Henderson for much less money than 6 million per year.
2) We have a ton of cap space in free agency to go after Stephenson or Bosh or whomever we want. A guy like Stephenson in particular would appreciate the opportunity to be the top scoring option at the wing for us whereas he will always be second on the wing to George in Indiana. This increases his career value. I know you've crunched the Indiana numbers, but that goes out the window if we cobble one of those crazy Houston style deals where one of the years is for way more money but the average still comes out around 7-8.
3) Depending on our draft picks and free agency signings, we then have the option to trade a guy like Jefferson for a SG if need be, but I don't think it'll get that far.
Now I understand the Bobcat pessimism, but this is a Hornets team that could have almost 30 million in cap space without Henderson, Session, and Gordon on the books. We also play in a city that is much cooler and similar to New York (where Stephenson grew up and broke all kinds of scoring records while leading multiple city champs) than where he plays now. Guys will want to play here.
In general, I just don't share the pessimism about finding a replacement for Henderson if need be, particularly where we have all those draft picks, including our own which will only go up in value without Henderson.
So, yeah, give him 5 or six million if it comes to that. After that, let's go with my plan. Which is pretty damn solid.
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 3:35:48 PM
Oh, I forgot the fourth possibility. If Jeffrey Taylor got some of Henderson's minutes, should we lose him, there is a very real possibility Taylor could be the superior SG in two years if you factor in defense and three point shooting.
So sincerely, Charlottean, are you really so pessimistic to think we'll swing 0 for 4 and wind up without a suitable replacement at SG?
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 3:49:16 PM
I am not going to get into this Henderson argument. All I will say is this; looking at the Cat's record and how long Henderson has been playing for this team, it just does not match up to call him a great player. He is and will always be average.
Plug any decent athlete in the two spot position on this team and they will eventually score. The thing with Henderson is he does not know how or possibly cannot take his game to the next level.
And Iron Woman just described Kemba Walker when he was describing Ellis so I don't see what the big deal is. Dude is a moron calling Ellis garbage. The homerism in some of you is unbelievable.
Posted by: D.W.G. | Jul 12, 2013 3:55:46 PM
i say 7. i don't see him being worth 8, but 7 seems reasonable for a guy of his caliber given redick and martin got that and then some.
1. too risky. you're leaving yourself exposed to come up empty dallas style. dallas showed you what can happen with cap room. and they already have a superstar, an established head coach, a championship, great owner, great city, etc. cap room is better than not, but you have to leverage that cap room into superstars.
2. i like the houston-style contract idea. that would make it more likely they wouldn't match, but again, you're assuming he would sign it. lin and asik both WANTED to go to houston. they wanted not just the money but the opportunity to start. stephenson is already starting on a contender. we would have to drastically overpay to get him to sign. or like I said, indiana would have to hate him by next summer.
3. i don't think jefferson will be all that tradeable. maybe down the road when his deal will be expiring, but right now? we overpaid the guy and there aren't any shooting guards in that price range that would get moved.
this is the pessimism......there are guys that are better than henderson. there aren't many. of those guys......most of them are in GREAT positions long term and aren't going anywhere. that's it, simply.
none of the scenarios listed above are hindered in any way by signing henderson now. you give him 7 a year for 4 years even ASSUMING he's the backup. he'll be a valuable asset as the 6th man, and or a constant trade chip. we still have like 18-20 million cap room going into next offseason even after signing henderson. his signing will NOT keep us from pulling off any big deals. again......he will ALWAYS be tradeable.
i still haven't heard a scenario where it HELPS us to let henderson walk.
thankfully, it looks like ellis is dallas bound which is probably the BEST place for him to be. alongside marion, calderon, dirk, and probably wright or dalembert....they will at the very least be a playoff team.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 3:56:47 PM
4. isn't henderson + taylor better than taylor + gordon?
taylor isn't going to play 48 minutes per game. i'm of the opinion that taylor COULD get to henderson's level. but your playing maybe games when you already have the guy. if taylor gets there, he starts over henderson and you phase one in and phase the other out. but why take unnecessary gambles? again, you still need a backup.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 3:59:56 PM
Stephenson has an alpha dog personality. I don't think he'll want to be second option on the wing, third over all (after Hibbert & George) for the rest of his career. If he played out three years in Charlotte and averaged 20 plus per game, he could work his way into a mega contract (over 10 million) with someone down the road. Even Danny Ainge averaged 20 points a game after he was traded from Boston and wound up on a team in need of scoring, but he was too old by then to get the huge pay day.
Stephenson is about 23. He'll be 24 next year. If he plays three years for Charlotte and turns into a 20 point scorer, he'll be entering his prime contract years at a market peak. That should be his goal. Put himself into a position to get the biggest possible contract at 27, 28. So, yes, it's a possibility.
Particularly with his personality.
The problem with Henderson at 7 is that I don't think there'd be many bights if we had to trade him down the road. There's been no indication that a single NBA team outside of Charlotte thinks he's worth that much. I wouldn't risk it.
Six million, sure. Five million all day.
Posted by: Jeff | Jul 12, 2013 4:14:52 PM
Hey slurpers, "class" is colorblind. Don't give me this racist BS, has nothing to do with anything. My coterie of friends is more diverse than 98% of you can even imagine, especially those of you that have never set foot outside outside Mecklenburg county, which is about 98% of you. Hell, I might go over to The Stonewall for some brews and billiards tonight just for the hell of it. Thomas, I'd break you like a rold gold pretzel you lousy chump, your an embarrassment to yourself.
"Fred" just doesn't have what it takes and is symptomatic of the the dysfunctional organization known as the BOOcats.
Hey, just look at the numbers slurpers....
....complete and utter failure. The Plan is off the tracks. Air Min said "I never expected we'd finish anywhere close to last in our conference", much less the league.
His Minimumness is CLUELESS!
Meanwhile, just like I told you would be the case, Prokhorov keeps on whipping out his MASSIVE checkbook and buying talent -- Mikhail IS the competition folks and if we know ONE thing FOR CERTAIN, NBA players are MOTIVATED BY MONEY!!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Thomas...
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Jul 12, 2013 4:30:29 PM
stephenson also runs the risk of going all gilbert arenas or stephen jackson after getting that big contract. that has to be factored in as well.
hibbert is far from the #2 option in indy. he might be their #2 guy defensive and leadership wise, but he's not much of an offensive threat. he gave you 12 ppg to stephenson's 9 ppg this past season. playoffs he jumped up a bunch.
i do NOT think stephenson will leave indiana. not unless he has a monster year this year and even then it's still questionable. i think he will be paul george's sidekick indefinitely and thrive in that role.
stephenson is younger than henderson, and he shot the ball about the same as henderson this past year. he and henderson are almost identical in size and quickness. both are 6'4/6'5 with 6'10+ wingspans and 8'7 reaches. henderson has a slightly higher vert.
i salivate at the idea that we could feasible have a stephenson/mkg starting 2-3 with henderson and taylor as the backups there.
we still have 3 years with mkg on rookie scale and walker and biz won't be off rookie scale until the 3rd year. we can EASILY afford to overpay henderson a little on a 3 year deal with the deal being front loaded. it makes NO difference to us regarding our ability to sign free agents over the next 2 summers.
and as much as evan turner might be available RIGHT NOW....he won't be in 3 months. they just traded holiday....ball's going to be in turner's hands and he's going to start living up to that draft status. coming off a solid year, going into contract year. another guy we could target, but if we don't do something soon....will probably play himself into untouchable status.
and again......i'd rather have henderson AND turner. you just don't get better by letting young talent walk. that has never worked outside of miami doing it specifically to sign lebron.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 12, 2013 4:35:29 PM
JC, you got it man. As for the "Scam" commentary, I was one of a small handful that vociferously advocated for drafting Cam. Yeah yeah, I heard the Gabbert stuff, and the laptop nonsense, and the "he's not even on the Kitty Kat's draftboard" and yadda yadda yadda nonsense...
...but I know what was right, and I called it. I also related to you KitKat slurpers a personal conversation I had with Boomer Esiason a few weeks prior to the draft when Boomer told me "not only do I think the Panthers should draft Cam, everything I'm hearing is barring a mindblowing trade offer, which I hear is not coming, the Panther ARE going to draft Cam" -- you doubters doubted, but it went down just like I told you it would...
...so smoke that too, blowhards.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Jul 12, 2013 4:53:04 PM
Man this subject struck a nerve
Posted by: Gary | Jul 12, 2013 6:24:21 PM
Charlottean, you have never had a NBA Championship team to call your own. You have never experienced the feel of building a Championship team (Go Pistons). Why don't you get off this thread and quit acting like you actually know something about basketball. You're a tool and you're out of your phucking mind if you think Gerald Henderson is anything more than a backup. You settled for the ugly fat chick, didn't you? It explains your mindset, as you think it is okay to put up with losing season after losing season.
Gerald Henderson is getting replaced in the starting lineup, whether it be this year or next. Monta Ellis will do fine in Dallas and it just is another example of how Charlotte cannot attract free agents. Sure, Charlotte signed Al Jefferson...but it took 10 years to even be noticed by free agents. No one wants to come here because no one wants to be connected to a losing franchise...no one except you.
Gerald Henderson is resigned to the fact that his days as a starter are numbered. You'll be crying when it happens and I'll be there to kick you in the head when you are down.
Posted by: No More Seatcushions? | Jul 12, 2013 8:31:22 PM
monta ellis is STILL not an all-star. you described him as a "perennial all-star"
facts are your enemy sir. i bet you think fake d cups are better than a natural B too. that would sum up our differences.
I'll take hendo's efficient, intelligent 15 ppg over monta's 40% chucking for 20 a game anyday. and so would anyone with a brain.
Posted by: charlottean | Jul 14, 2013 1:03:59 PM
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