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October 22, 2013

Charlotte Bobcats guard Ben Gordon expects to be fine for the opener

            Charlotte Bobcats guard Ben Gordon was back at practice Tuesday after spending the weekend in Phoenix having what he called a “maintenance’’ procedure done on his right knee.

            Gordon played one-on-one after practice against Bobcats rookie James Southerland and expects to be fine for the Oct. 30 season-opener against the Rockets in Houston.

    “By game night? Yeah, definitely,” Gordon said. “It usually takes about a week for the swelling to go down. I’ll do a little more each day without overdoing it.’’

    Gordon indicated he had PRP therapy, in which blood is drawn from the patient, then injected into an injured area of the body. The PRP (platelet-rich plasma) promotes healing. Sometimes doctors add a lubricant to the PRP injection.

            Gordon said this isn’t the first time he’s had this procedure

    “Like many athletes, or people with a little bit of wear-and-tear, it’s just something to make you feel a little better,’’ said Gordon, entering his 10th NBA regular season. “PRP is kind of new – to take your own blood and put it back. And if you need a little lubricant, they do that, too, for a little cushion.

    “It’s pretty basic: Get it done now, so it wouldn’t affect me during the season. Mostly a precautionary thing. I’ll be fine.”

    Bobcats coach Steve Clifford said Saturday he didn’t expect Gordon to play in either of the remaining two exhibitions, Thursday at home against the Cleveland Cavaliers or Friday in New York against the Knicks.

Posted by Observer Sports on October 22, 2013 at 02:07 PM | Permalink


need a big year from BG

Posted by: Chris | Oct 22, 2013 2:29:56 PM

Hey! When does NASTAR check in with his disgrunteld former employee comment? ...waiting...waiting...waiting...

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 22, 2013 4:08:04 PM

^^^Won't be a long wait, but will be an ignorant comment you can count on that. Bitching like a girl saying the Bobcats defense hasn't improved because they played one very bad team. Just forget about the other 5 teams they held under 90. Who knows if it translates, but wow is that horrendus logic. Absolute troll. I guess when you get fired by the Bobcats it leaves a bruise.

Posted by: James | Oct 22, 2013 4:52:28 PM

air minimum air minimum air minimum 5th on the depth chart boobcats boobcats air minimum air minimum 5th on the depth chart they'll never amnesty tyrus thomas the world is flat air minimum herb simon is definitely paying luxury tax this year even though he won't.

that about right?

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 22, 2013 10:14:46 PM

Ya'll really are angry with me huh? Seriously, look in the mirror fellas, you've lost control...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 22, 2013 10:25:34 PM

^^^Looking forward to that Jordan/Pera one on one matchup because that makes sense in some alternate universe. Probably will take place right after Tyrus' next game. Hmmm. Those felt like controlled comments. Accurate as well. Thanks for not making me wait too long.

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 23, 2013 7:11:23 AM

angry? no. mostly disappointed in you. you could have been something decent and now look at you.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 23, 2013 10:50:36 AM

Slurpers, MAN UP and get on the record about when the BOOB's will WIN a playoff series.

charlottean, stood up to be counted and predicted 2016. Said 2015 would be a fluke if it happened, but if it doesn't happen by 2016 "The Plan" is off track.

What say ye slurpers?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 23, 2013 11:24:35 PM

Slurpers? Boobs? This guy may have deep deep problems beyond his hatred of Jordan. Good thing the Bobcats fired him. Who knows what he was doing or what he might have done. May have dodged a real bullet.

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 24, 2013 6:01:54 AM

great job quoting me accurately.....i used the words "early" "on time" and "tardy" to describe 2015-16-17.

if they lose round one in 16 but win round 1 in 17, that doesn't make the plan "off track" just a year later than what I would reasonably expect given how far they bottomed out and the talent they have accumulated.

That said, they have a TON of young guys at this core. 1 of our core members for the long haul is surely to come in next year's draft or due to a trade caused by next year's draft.

they should be fighting for playoffs next year and should definitely make the playoffs the following year and onward. the big thing is going to be keeping this group together or management being impatient and making unnecessary moves. the talent is there on TODAY's roster.

walker/hendo/mkg/zeller/biz/taylor is absolutely capable of developing into a hill/stephenson/george/west/hibbert/broken granger type core. or a rose/butler/deng/boozer/noah/gibson type core.

the talent is there.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 24, 2013 10:38:05 AM

My apologies.

To set the record straight, a playoff win in 2017 would be "tardy". Again, my apologies.

So, if they don't win a playoff series by 2017 is it then off track? If not, absent a playoff win at what point is it off track?

I'm looking for comparable situations (or two) to use as a yardstick for judging our management team (AY&C)...could you point me towards a couple?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 24, 2013 11:17:26 AM

^^^Please make a list of all the things you are apologizing for. Make sure it is a complete list including each of the wrong and misleading statements you have made. May take you some time, but you can start with the 4 or 5 that have been documented recently and move on from there. Once we have that cleared up, I am sure people will happily provide you with their playoff predictions for the Bobcats. Until then, it is really pointless. You need to acknowledge those mistakes first if you want forgiveness. Not sure why people would correspond with a troll otherwise. A reformed troll maybe. Look forward to it.

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 24, 2013 12:57:01 PM

seattle/okc: below .500 for 4 straight seasons then won 50 games and lost in round 1, then won 55 and lost in conference finals, then won more in lockout year and lost in finals, won 60 and lost in conference semis last year

the first year or 2 of the 4 was comparable to 2010-11 for us, they just didn't blow it up immediately because their gm never made a trade like the dampier trade. had he done so, they would have blown in up immediately. instead, they were mediocre for 2 years before losing rashard lewis to orlando and then trading allen for jeff green and bottoming out in KD and green's rookie year. they were horrible again in westbrook's first year. then they made the playoffs. then they won. we won't make the playoffs in MKG's 2nd year because we didn't get durant and green the year before (picked 2 and 5) we got walker and biyombo (picked 7 and 9). that's going to slow us down a year or 2 from their scale. management doesn't get to win the draft lottery so we can't blame them for not landing kyrie instead of kemba.

they went away from the blueprint signing jefferson, i've been vocal about that. it's going to cost us draft position to add another vital piece (ibaka? harden?) to get marginally better NOW. This only works out if jefferson helps develop biz into a beast and acts as a placeholder for 3 years while biz is groomed.

other variations of this same blueprint: new orleans has bottomed out for 2 years post chris paul and accumulated davis, gordon, holiday, evans, rivers, anderson, etc.

clippers meanwhile were horrible forever, accumulated gordon, aminu and turned them into paul, to go with griffin, jordan, bledsoe (turned him into dudley/reddick), hired doc rivers and they're looking like contenders and at the least perennial playoff teams.

orlando is doing it right now post dwight howard.....wiped the slate clean and started over with vucuvic, harris, harkless, oladipo, nicholson, etc.

old orlando was bad while grant hill was hurt and mcgrady left for houston and they turned that around by drafting nelson and howard, drafting j.j. redick, bringing in turkoglu and lewis, later drafting courtney lee and turning him into ryan anderson.

every great team is built through the draft and almost always by being really bad at least once or generally bad for a while.

that's how chicago got jordan and pippen, how miami got wade, how boston got bird, how houston got hakeem, how san antonio got robisnon and duncan, how dallas got dirk, boston got pierce and allen, how detroit got zeke and joe, and so on and so on and so on.

and then you have all of the teams that lost in the finals or conference finals. the blueprint is there. they aren't far from it.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 24, 2013 1:37:22 PM

So if we follow the OKC blueprint (and we do now have the brains behind the OKC operation, right?) we should miss playoffs this year, lose 1st round next, make it to Finals two years after that (2017)?

If by 2017 we have yet to win a playoff series what will your reaction be?

Will be interesting to watch our progress (or lack thereof) vs. Orlando.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 24, 2013 2:35:37 PM

Went to the game last night. Couple of things I liked. Taylor obviously looked good. Probably was the best I have seen Biz catch the ball. Even hit a shortt jumper. Still raw, but is better. Kemba looked more under control all game. Zeller Should have had 25 points. Was very very active and quick to the ball. Did not finish as well as he should have and missed some free throws. All correctable.

One thing I didn't like is that they would have had a very tough time if Kyrie stayed in the game. He dominated the 3rd and looked like he cold have closed that game if he kept playing. We were missing Al so maybe it balances out.

Posted by: James | Oct 25, 2013 6:01:34 AM

nastar - that would assume that every time you run the pick and roll the result would be a layup.

you're leaving out every other variable in the process....including the fact that we did NOT land a player of durant's caliber. there are 25 teams in the league that don't have a player of durant's caliber and that's assuming you think like i do that kobe, duncan and dirk are all of or once recently were of durant's caliber.

that said, we have accumulated the young core pieces through the draft and suffered through developmental years the way they did. we have a deeper young core because we signed jefferson outright and didn't give up a jeff green to get him, but we don't have the top end talent YET. teams like indiana, memphis and 2004 detroit have proven you don't necessarily need THE top talent to win. but you have to have talent. we have talent. we just don't have an elite player as of yet.

I wouldn't count MKG and zeller out of that discussion yet though. way too young to know. but we're looking at 6-7 guys plus jefferson plus these upcoming 2014 picks plus cap space to build on.

james - no doubt about kyrie. if they had drafted barnes or made the move up for beal instead of going with waiters....we would be annointing them new OKC status NOW. kyrie is for real. we saw that last year.

we also saw biz make that short jumper a few times last year. the dude has a good stroke. he'll get there with that and the free throws and that's ALL he needs to become a 10 ppg guy and keep defenses honest.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 25, 2013 3:34:21 PM

seth curry going to the d-league?

crazy. but yeah...let's let ben gordon get those minutes instead. because seth is undersized right? i mean it's not like gordon is in a contract year and about to turn 31 or anything. it's not like we're building anything for the future or anything. we definitely can't afford to bring in a wild card for that 14th or 15th roster spot since we're contending for a championship and everything.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 25, 2013 3:45:29 PM

So the blueprint is flawed since we don't have a player of Durant's calibre?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 25, 2013 8:01:05 PM

it's not an even comp time wise. you get a guy like durant, you're an instant contender. you get guys that take longer to develop, it takes you longer to reach contender status.

part of the blueprint is getting top 5 picks and hitting on them. okc got 4 top 5 picks in 3 years. we didn't get that. we got mkg and zeller with biz and kemba being later picks. henderson too. taylor especially. and now it isn't likely next year's pick is top 5.

i've said it numerous times, i think they jumped too early on the rebuild. they needed to be very bad 1 more year. or at least if they were going to win 35 games this year, they win it with the young guys. winning it with jefferson, mcroberts, gordon, sessions (assuming that's what happens) cheapens the value of the improvement because they aren't the young core who will be around. it's stunted growth.

MKG and zeller are the critical pieces for us. They can be elite talents the way none of the other guys can. walker can be a kenny anderson type player that makes an all-star or 2 in his career but isn't an ALL NBA caliber guy. mkg and zeller have the potential to be THAT kind of guy in their prime. but they're 20 years old.

durant was the first piece to their rebuild where zeller is the 3rd or 4th (order). that's where the variables are different, but ultimately, the idea is the same. be bad, play the young guys up, accumulate talent, cap room, picks......figure out who's real and who's fake©swizz and keep those guys together for a long time and tweak the pieces around them.

okc effed up by picking perkins over harden. but they have the luxury of having durant. there's no blueprint to land a top 2 talent in the league. but there is a blueprint for accumulating talent and that's what we've done. that's what orlando has done too. it's what cleveland has done. and those are the teams that are the future.

there's that route, or there's the miami/boston/houston way that really only works for big market/teams with history. but every championship since like '88 except for detroit's in 2004 was because of a top 10 draft pick that became a star. jordan, hakeem, bird, zeke, timmy, kobe, dwade, pierce, dirk.....that's it right there. so you draft high until you get a guy of that caliber and then you ride that guy for 15 years. it might take 10 years to find that guy, but then you have something real to build on.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 25, 2013 9:31:13 PM

free throw % has got to change!! Season starting,no more practice games.
Will be Dshtg!! just for a change. Name:Dshtg!!

Posted by: David Stern has to go!! | Oct 25, 2013 10:19:55 PM

becomes trend(contagious) like i said..

Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 25, 2013 10:25:09 PM

you're panicking over something not real.

and stern is like 3 months from retirement, i think you could have gone with something a little more......new.

biz had a 2nd 20 rebound game of the preseason. against tyson chandler too. panic about that.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 25, 2013 10:49:12 PM

That is why I changed Name, trying to be less of an ass un like some who can't help. Only a few would know what that means.. Keeping it familiar... yes i saw Biz again was awesome didn't go unnoticed, however 2- 10 is why I didn't comment.
Practice fking games is something to Panic about. I consider those "gimmies" from free throw line!!

AND WHO THE FK SAID I WAS PANICKING! just an observation. Just Like Elway told Fox to Stick to what he knows!! Hold on everybody here it comes!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 25, 2013 11:06:54 PM

AND WHAT THE F!!! is not REAL!!

Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 25, 2013 11:16:11 PM

K I can tell your a golfer, BS say your not..." Driving Range "not real ,, "putting green" not real????!!!!!!"

Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 25, 2013 11:29:02 PM

* you're* sorry. forgive me for being a jerk.. maybe I misinterpreted(spell check?)


Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 26, 2013 7:45:19 AM

who the golfer? nastar?

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 26, 2013 2:20:07 PM

nah just thought you might be a golfer. Was using that analogy.
Anyway get you're point about free throws. Biz has been awesome another 20 rebound night preseason or not is wow.

Posted by: Dshtg!! | Oct 26, 2013 2:38:17 PM

Bismack Biyombo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rebound machine. Starting to find out what Cho saw in this guy. Should be able to put some intersting combinations together when Big Al gets back. Not real confident about playing Houston, but looking forward to the season.

Posted by: Tim | Oct 26, 2013 4:31:15 PM

Mike Woodson's job has to be in jeopardy... Even given the preseason backdrop that was just embarrassing for the Knick's.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 26, 2013 9:41:26 PM

Not sure where his minutes come from, but 20 rebounds twice? Not too many players can do that. Need to keep developing this guy. Zeller voted second best rookie by the GMs this year. Taylor looks good. Doesn't matter which young players turn out as long as some of them do. Will get more next year.

Posted by: Austin | Oct 27, 2013 8:02:23 AM

hahahahahaha dude woody getting fired over a preseason game? hilarious.

that dude has been making lemonade with a max contract wearing a suit for the past 2 years.

almost as funny as biz being "5th on the depth chart, 6th now that o'bryant has been signed"

but i forget.....you aren't right "every time" right? say SOMETHING real for once.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 27, 2013 12:40:15 PM

Naster is of course wrong and was trying to just take another lame shot at the Bobcats, Being shown the door still stings. Just move on already. If tapscostt and bickerstaff can, so can you. Team doesnt even have the same owner.

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 27, 2013 3:08:56 PM

You Slurpers probably thought Glen Grunwald was safe too....

Crazy thing is as dumb and ineffective as Dolan is, His Minimumness is worse -- hahahahaha!

You slurps also members at Elevation Church?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 27, 2013 11:23:12 PM

I know those of you inhabiting Slurper Nation don't have much in the way of long-term memory, or even short-term for that matter, so here's a reminder about NBA owners:

Really rich & really smart = very likely NBA title (Buss, Cuban, Holt, Arison)

Really rich & dumb = never win the big one but kinda like a train wreck makes for an interesting spectacle (Dolan, Taylor)

Poor & really smart = good things can happen (Lacob)

Poor & really dumb = you're doomed, completely doomed (Jordan, in a class by himself)

BTW, Lacob & Prokhorov both bought their teams the same year His Minumness bought his, all three were in the dumper...

...two are now thriving, one still firmly planted in the d-u-m-p-e-r.

Just wonderful.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 28, 2013 12:31:03 AM

^^^any idea how many minutes Tyrus will get on Wednesday? Could really use your brilliant insight on that.

When did you get fired exactly? Would be intersting to know at what point you were a contributor to the dysfunction of the very organization you loathe so much. Had to be pre-MJ ownership because he has not let anyone of note go outside of coaches. Unless you were such a peon that no one would no who you are. Which makes it even worse. Though that would explain way your information is so consistently wrong.

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 28, 2013 6:34:33 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to mention...

...28-120 in the Kemba Era -- he's gonna flee first opportunity.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 28, 2013 7:52:55 AM

^^^He is going to flee where? The Italian League? That is where you said he would end up. Oh my god. Were you wrong again? I almost forgot that one. That list is incredibly long. Please keep reminding me.

You are a complete laughingstock. I guess when you make so many stupid comments it is only a matter of time before you contradict yourself. No wonder they blew you out. 28-120 and you still could not hold a job there. Ouch!

Posted by: Bobnet | Oct 28, 2013 8:51:14 AM

^^^^^ like having my very own puppet, LOL. Slurp slurp...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 28, 2013 1:01:27 PM

seriously dude.......say 1 thing real. just once. you can do it.

prokhorov is no closer to championship right now with his team and if we're giving owners all of the credit for championships then I guess it was reinsdorf's genius and not jordan's right? jerry's net worth btw is estimated around half of jordan's so there goes that one too.

lacob and co.? rebuilt for years and just made the playoffs last year as a 6 seed. they were rebuilding before and IMMEDIATELY upon his purchase. jordan was in the playoffs immediately following his purchase and then the blunder that was the dampier trade and THEN the rebuild began.

not at all comparable.

look at BK's cap situation going forward. they're capped out paying 3 players that won't win ish for the next 3 or 4 years. and no draft picks along with it. but yea....hold HIM of all people up to the light. he's paying 3 times as much for mediocrity. awesome. and that's not counting ak-47's convenient endorsement deals and side projects that will start popping up in russia in a few years.

say one thing real. please.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 28, 2013 1:08:11 PM

Jordan has had control of this team for 7 years so don't start with this "IMMEDIATELY upon his purchase" nonsense. Lacob is gonna lap Air Minimum repeatedly in the next decade, not even a remotely fair fight.

The cap is meaningless to Prokhorov, less eventful than a gnat. Really like it doesn't even exist. Brooklyn is poised to WIN BABY!

Hey slurpers, look what Bonnell said about Kid-CantShootStraight-Gilchrist...

"...Kidd-Gilchrist doesn’t appear to be progressing. His jump shot is still flawed, and at times this preseason he passed up open looks."


"...there’s no way, based on performance since the end of last season, that Taylor should play fewer minutes than Kidd-Gilchrist."


Basically Bonnell is saying only reason MKG might start is to justify the #2 pick, which is plain wrong. The best player should start.

Nice article Bonnell, didn't think you had that sort of thing in you.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Oct 28, 2013 1:58:52 PM

brooklyn isn't poised to win anything. they're poised for an entertaining 4th seed with a ton of garnett and pierce flagrant fouls in a round 2 exit at the hands of miami dominating those dudes.

the guy blew all of his 2014-15 and 2015-16 on a team that can't win. good luck dumping joe johnson's contract....the cap and tax might not matter to him, but it matters to everyone else so they won't trade for him.

they have 87 million committed to next year WITHOUT paul pierce. and that's assuming kirilenko and blatche resign at their discount under the table prices instead of going elsewhere.

they aren't better than miami or close, they aren't better than indiana or close, and they probably aren't better than chicago or new york. they are DEFINITELY better than everyone else in the east.

they definitely aren't better than okc assuming westbrook comes back, definitely not better than the spurs, definitely not better than the clippers, and definitely not better than golden state. definitely better than everyone else out west.

so he's doubling everybody's cost for mid-level results. great model to praise genius.

Posted by: charlottean | Oct 29, 2013 4:39:39 PM

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