February 18, 2014
A Charlotte Bobcats trade for Los Angeles Lakers big man Pau Gasol unlikely
The Charlotte Bobcats have been in contact with the Los Angeles Lakers concerning veteran big man Pau Gasol, but a source familiar with the discussion downplayed the likelihood Gasol would end up a Bobcat by Thursday’s NBA trade deadline.
Gasol makes over $19 million in this, the final season of his current contract. Superstar Kobe Bryant is hurt and the Lakers have fallen out of the Western Conference playoff race, so getting something for Gasol – like a first-round pick – is something the Lakers have explored.
While adding Gasol could give the Bobcats the short-term boost to make the playoffs, giving up a first-round pick would make Gasol more of a long-term investment. That’s where the Bobcats would have pause.
Gasol turns 34 in July and is playing his 15th NBA season. Is he a long-term fit for the Bobcats, particularly the way Steve Clifford coaches defense? Would Gasol, a Spaniard who has played in Los Angeles the past six seasons, be receptive to finishing out his career in Charlotte?
With those open questions, it’s unlikely the Bobcats would give up a significant first-round pick to acquire a veteran for the season’s last 30 or so games.
Bobcats management is working the phones hard, looking to make some sort of a deal before Thursday’s 3 p.m. deadline. A big question between now and then will be whether teams pointed toward the draft lottery – “sellers,” so to speak – will reduce their asking prices to give up veteran players in trade.
Posted by Observer Sports on February 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM | Permalink
Posted by: Jeff Otah | Feb 18, 2014 11:51:14 AM
not the direction we need to go. we don't need a short term boost, we need to build young solid talent.
Posted by: tony clifton | Feb 18, 2014 12:05:31 PM
Hell naw dat dude old as hell, we ain't need his azz in da bobcatz we needa draft sum1 like Rodney hood
Posted by: Malachi Black | Feb 18, 2014 12:07:00 PM
O maybe we cud draft sum big scorer Lyke Doug McDermott fo' example dat dude can shoot 2 save his life.
Posted by: Malachi Black | Feb 18, 2014 12:09:53 PM
As for the "oh but We are improving" fallacy...come on slurpers, get your heads out of your *sses!
When you plumb never before seen depths a Dead Cat bounce is inevitable!!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 18, 2014 12:11:21 PM
I am all for the Bobcats starting to build their team through Free Agency. There is nothing in college basketball that will put us over the edge. Rodney Hood, Doug McDermott... NAH. None of them will come in and make an immediate impact on this team. We need to start having a nice mix of veterans with yong players mixed in. I mean have you guys not seen what Al Jefferson has done. Best sign in Bobcats history and he defintely didnt come in the draft. So NBA draft is a way to get younger but not always better.
Posted by: panthersallday | Feb 18, 2014 12:29:16 PM
If we were a 3 or 4 seed ok it would help but we are a 7 seed at best this trade would only set them back maybe a few years depending on who the pick is. I like Pau but he is a shell of the guy that won a ring with Kobe.
Posted by: jaymoney | Feb 18, 2014 12:46:06 PM
Pau for Ben and Cats and Lakers exchange picks would be ok
Posted by: jaymoney | Feb 18, 2014 12:51:07 PM
This makes complete sense for the Bobcats because it is a dumb move.
Posted by: rexchapjones | Feb 18, 2014 12:51:43 PM
Is Ben Gordan's value now at absolute zero? I find it hard to believe we have not been approached for his expiring contract. The Cats have to find a way to get something out of him, as he is useless on the court.
Posted by: Go Cats! | Feb 18, 2014 12:53:37 PM
rexchap nailed it!!!!!!!
Posted by: tony clifton | Feb 18, 2014 1:08:07 PM
I don't like this trade in anyway...Gasol and Jefferson cannot play together.
The Bobcats are primed to lose their own 1st Rd Pick and there is no "sure-fire great talent" outside of the 8-10 Pick at best. Also, I will never trust the Bobcats with their draft selections (they are as bad as bad can be at drafting). In addition, the next two summers provide very little "really-good upgrades" in Free Agency that could have a REAL chance at signing with the Hornets, so the best way is to trade for an upgrade.
There is a three team trade (basically two separate deals) that could work very well for the Cats and give them a pretty solid team and some credibility for the next two year and still set them up very well after that:
Bobcats - Bucks - Clippers:
Bobcats get: G. Neal, E. Ilyasova & Z. Pachulia from Bucks, and J. Dudley from Clippers.
Bucks get: B. Gordon, B. Haywood, J. Adrien, Portlands 2014 Pick from Bobcats (and huge Salary Cap flexibility).
Clippers get: B. Biyombo from Bobcats (they are craving some defensive frontcourt help).
That would leave the Bobcats with:
PG: Kemba, Sessions, Pargo
SG: Henderson, Neal, Taylor
SF: MKG, Dudley, CDR
The spacing provided by Neal, Dudley and Ilyasova; plus the rebounding and size from Ilyasova and Pachulia, is exactly what the Bobcats need to be a Top 5 Team in the East for the next 2 years, when combined with their current Top-10 defense.
Posted by: RobC | Feb 18, 2014 1:21:02 PM
they don't need to give up a first to get it (unless we're talking the portland pick which would be OK)
deal one = gasol for gordon and mcroberts. nobody loses anything, lakers save a few million. we upgrade for a playoff run. pau goes back to the lakers this summer.
deal two = sessions for blake and kaman. no intention of impacting the court, kaman would sit, blake would either fill sessions role or sit and let pargo do it......but it saves the lakers more money sweetening deal #1.
they would need to execute the deals separately for cap reasons and the commissioner could potentially block them, but it makes perfect sense for both teams.
what makes zero sense is dealing gordon for gary neal and caron butler. what the eff is that about? that shouldn't even be a rumor, let alone a credible rumor that says the deal ALMOST happened last night. that ish shouldn't even be discussed. gary neal for pargo? ok. gary neal for sessions? maybe. but attached to caron butler and giving up ben gordon's expiring? WHO IS MANNING THIS SHIP?
if they're buyers....buying small that would be exciting and make the playoffs more competitive/interesting (such as renting gasol for 3 months) is perfectly fine and doesn't hurt the future. other than a deal like that or a homerun swing like a deal for greg monroe or eric gordon or someone similar........they need to sit it out.
2 days to make something happen. hoping for the best, bracing for the worst.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 1:25:38 PM
Dudley and Pachulia? They've been here already. It would be the dubious distinction of having two players both before and after they were any good.
Posted by: J | Feb 18, 2014 1:30:55 PM
Ben Gordon for anyone who can shoot would be okay by me.
Posted by: apauldds | Feb 18, 2014 1:51:00 PM
No to Gosal all day. Bobcats just need more consistent scoring from the two and three and they are a top five team in the East. Draft TJ Warren or Rodney Hood with Detroit's pick. Then add PJ Hairston with Portland's pick. Yep - all local players but all three can play defense, rebound and most important shoot the three. Second round we can draft a big man project.
Posted by: Dom | Feb 18, 2014 2:05:32 PM
Dudley has become a pretty solid player and is stil in his prime. Plus he is a GREAT 3Pt shooter, versatile player that hustles in every play and is and above average defender (plus he is very cheap). Just what Jefferson need to kick it out when he gets doubled. He is just redundant in LA with Crawford, Barnes, Reddick, and the rest.
Pachulia is an upgrade on any of our current back-up Centers right now, and is a big guy who rebounds and makes free throws.
Posted by: RobC | Feb 18, 2014 2:22:54 PM
Im still hoping the Evan Tuner deals not totally out.
As far Pau... First round pick for rest of season? Nah!
After reading the Caron and Gary Neal crap i'm bracing for the worst also.
Posted by: DShtg!! | Feb 18, 2014 2:52:54 PM
if dudley becomes a bobcat ill shoot myself
Posted by: J | Feb 18, 2014 3:15:51 PM
you guys have to understand gasol would only be here for 3 months no matter how you cut it.
it would be trading scraps for him and still keeping cap space. the only point to it is to make the rest of the season a little more interesting, and possibly give zeller/biyombo someone to look up to (who actually won something).
gasol and jefferson can absolutely play together. gasol won 2 rings and nearly a 3rd playing with bynum. he's every bit the passer that mcroberts is.
all it is...is a temporary upgrade. there's no reason why anybody should be objecting to it like it affects next year AT ALL. we're already giving up our draft pick, so why not try to see if we can make a run at a 6 seed and make things interesting? as long as it doesn't affect next year, it's a good thing.
beats the heck out of gordon's deal going entirely to waste and/or making a horrible deal to take back bad salary for the future like we always do. that's why the suns are so heavy about gasol. they know he won't stick around long. it's a rental.
the real trades to be had have to do with us having the balls to give 3 1's for somebody legit. would minnesota give up love for zeller and 3 1's? would the celtics give up rondo for walker and 3 1's?
or go after somebody that other teams are trying to dump but has talent.
eric gordon, ersan ilyasova, amare stoudemire.......all major talent upgrades over guys we have.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 3:51:15 PM
pachulia is a player but an UPGRADE over zeller or biz? no effing way. he's just 10 years older. is that all it takes? stay in the league long enough for one of you casual fans to remember his name and now he's an upgrade?
no way we should give up a pick to get gasol unless it's a 2nd or the portland pick protected inside 25 or something.
but i don't think we have to. LA's motives there are to save money. throw them a package that saves them money without putting us over the tax and it makes this playoff season far more interesting than the hot potato that it actually is. we're 23-50.......we should either be tanking hard or adding someone like gasol that doesn't hurt us next year or we should be swinging for the fences for a major franchise changer who isn't past his prime.
but gasol for gordon and mcroberts? no pain there. still leaves you sessions and picks to get a turner or whoever still on rookie scale.
could even make it haywood and gordon and still have mcroberts to deal. or gordon, pargo, adrien.
it's not a bad deal to explore at the very least.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 4:02:30 PM
Bobcats need a scorer at SF or PF and Gasol would definitely help that case. He could play with Jefferson with no problem and would give you that other scoring threat you need.
Posted by: Pradigy Musicman | Feb 18, 2014 4:10:24 PM
I like that they are looking at a number of scenarios. But get a max guy or wait till next year.
Posted by: Steve P. | Feb 18, 2014 4:16:53 PM
wonder if the Lakers would do Gasol for Bismack and Gordon... young talent in bismack.
I think we could make good use of that extra $4mil in free agency...
Posted by: luke M | Feb 18, 2014 4:44:05 PM
they would probably jump all over that deal. show me the 4 million dollar big man that can do what biyombo does at age 21.
the free agent list looks like this:
why on earth would you give up on a guy that young to get a 3 month rental. the guy is playing GREAT ball right now too. just not a lot of minutes to be had behind jefferson.
i have a hunch that either biyombo or mkg will get traded before the deadline. and i just hope it's worth it. it's going to sting watching one of them ball out somewhere else because our front office doesn't know what they are doing.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 4:52:20 PM
the guy is 5th in blocks per 48, 12th in rebounds per 48, 11th in rebound%, and somewhere near the top in top 10 with that 65% FG % and 1.7 PPS.
the guy just isn't playing. if you want to trade him, get something in return. you don't give guys like that away. 4 million is a bargain for a quality young big with a great attitude.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 4:59:33 PM
I'd much rather have a guy like Kenneth Feried than Pau Gasol. We already have a good offensive big who plays below the rim and no defense as it is. No need to add another.
Posted by: firstname.lastname@example.org | Feb 18, 2014 5:20:09 PM
^^^ true. but again.......we're only talking about a 3 month rental. so you play zeller with jefferson more and gasol with biyombo more.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 5:30:56 PM
As for the "oh but We are improving" fallacy...come on slurpers, get your heads out of your *sses!
When you plumb never before seen depths a Dead Cat bounce is inevitable!!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 18, 2014 6:14:28 PM
What are you guys talking about?? It's like this:
Higgins: Hey Rick. What you doing?
Rick: Same thing I'm always doing, watching TV.
Rick: Of course not.
Higgins: Yeah, me neither. Look, I know your boss is probably on you since you hadn't written anything in a week, and we need to get our name in the press as wanting to make a big move.... so I'll go ahead and LET YOU WRITE that we called about Pau Gasol. How's that? ........ Rick? Hello?
Rick: Oh sorry, it was a really good commercial on there.
There is absolutely ZERO going on with a trade like this-
Posted by: The Dude | Feb 18, 2014 7:01:24 PM
The new coach has made solid progress with this team and big Al gives them a shot most nights. This could be a chance to add another piece to take the next step. If they add another decent player, Clifford will get this team in the playoffs every year. Of course it doesn't have to happen now. Could be the draft or free agency. They did a nice job with the coach and free agency last year. Keep it going.
Posted by: Mike | Feb 18, 2014 7:38:25 PM
Bucks apparently are cleaning house for cap room and tanking for obvious reasons. And I've seen that pretty much everyone on their roster other than their 2013 rookies and Larry Sanders are available. So how about this one.
BUCKS - Ben Gordon (expiring contract)
Bismack Biyombo (young talent)
BOBCATS - OJ Mayo (sixth man)
Caron Butler (expiring contract)
John Henson (a better Biyombo)
What you think ?
Posted by: Bryan Bonds | Feb 18, 2014 8:32:26 PM
There's a lot of things to like looking at the box score, but I'd still like to see MKG, Biyombo, and Zeller playing more minutes to develop-
Posted by: The Dude | Feb 18, 2014 10:05:53 PM
Just another win for the Cats!
Posted by: Tim | Feb 18, 2014 10:20:27 PM
Steinline saying that Bobcats asking price for Gary Neal; I hope it's not correct, that's not the move we need to make now.
Posted by: Downtown Sports | Feb 18, 2014 11:11:14 PM
i would be OK with henson for biyombo. mostly because he's able to play with both zeller and with jefferson. i don't think he's a better biyombo. he's older and he's more skilled, but he isn't as well built. what is henson? 24? but yeah i'd take him for biyombo. not a lot of other guys i would, though.
hahaha @ the dude. it's more like
higgins: rick let me call you back, i got donnie nelson on the other line.
higgins: okay donnie....so we're talking mkg, kemba, and 3 1's for monta ellis?
mkg looked like he was on a mission in that 1st quarter with that futures game snub. how he only plays 20 minutes just absolutely baffles me. especially when tolliver was cold. why the eff is he playing 28 minutes in a game where he's not on fire?
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 18, 2014 11:12:56 PM
So the item posted above, twice, was something I posted in another thread days ago -- but I did not post it on Tuesday, either time. FYI. As for the imposter, the truth just eats you up inside doesn't it moron?!? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
"The Charlotte Bobcats have been in contact with the Los Angeles Lakers concerning veteran big man Pau Gasol..."
Awesome! Air Min, Yes Co. & Cho get tin' after it!!
I sure am seeing Higgins's name a lot in print, cannot remember last time last time I saw Cho quoted on a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. Anyone slurpers here still foolish enough to think Cho the Great is still large and in charge?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 19, 2014 12:42:16 AM
^^^^well just let me know who is in charge so I can give them their due credit for improving the team. Nice to be in the hunt with 3 number ones and cap space in their back pocket. Now if they do something stupid at the deadline I will then rescind my praise.
Posted by: Brian | Feb 19, 2014 7:22:14 AM
Do not make a trade to make a trade. Adding any additional salary for next year unless it is for a serious player is a mistake. After struggling the last 2 years now is not the time to get impatient. If you can make a play for an all star level player, then do it. If not, there will be great opportunities through the draft and free agency to make another move. It would be fun to get in the playoffs but not at the expense of the future. Been there done that.
Posted by: Season Ticket Customer | Feb 19, 2014 7:27:44 AM
Brian, as for "credit"...Clifford is deserving of a lot.
As for "in the hunt"......for what?
The Plan was predicated on tanking and building through the draft. Oh we tanked, like nobody has EVER tanked before -- EPIC levels of tanking...
...last night our #2, #4 and #7 collectively played 45 minutes between them while Josh, who was a 37 pick and washed out with 5 other teams before landing with the last resort Boobs, played 33 minutes -- The Plan is off the tracks.
We are right on the verge of what Air Min, Yes Co. & Cho said was unacceptable -- seeded 8th and gonna get smoked in round 1.
Truth is...perpetually floating around the edges of the playoffs is about what the Boobs lot in life is, and that's ok. I certainly prefer it to routinely setting NBA ALL-TIME futility records.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 19, 2014 11:34:50 AM
Just trade Jeff Adrien to the Pelicans for Anthony Morrow....That alone will make a huge difference. That kid is an amazing 3PT Shooter that will get Al Jefferson a triple-double every night with all the open 3's he will have as jefferson kicks it out to him.
And he will be super excited playing in Charlotte for a Team with a real chance at a 6th Seed in the East. The Bobcats are only 1½ games behind both Brooklyn and Washington and 2 games behind Atlanta, with 5 more games to play against those 3 Teams.
Posted by: RobC | Feb 19, 2014 12:21:11 PM
Agree on Clifford. But being in the hunt for the playoffs while still having multiple number ones and enough cap space to be a player again in free agency works as a plan for me. Whatever they add through the draft and free agency will make them better next year. Especially with this coach. That was the problem with the old team. They were an 8 seed with no picks and no cap space. That had zero chance.
Posted by: Brian | Feb 19, 2014 12:23:04 PM
-Bismack Biyombo is a wasted pick. Just suck it up, accept it, find a trade partner and move on.
-This Charlotte team has to find a way to pry Omer Asik away from the Houston Rockets.
-With these two wins against the Pistons, this ensures the Hornets they will NOT get Detroit's First Round pick in 2014.
-No whining IF Charlotte misses the playoffs in 2014, for the team hangs onto their 1st Round pick. If the team makes the playoff, the pick goes to Chicago.
-Ben Gordon is NOT getting traded, so stop with the bullshit trade ideas. He will remain with the Bobcats.
-Pau Gasol is NOT EVER coming to Charlotte...neither is Zaza Pachulia, who refused to join the team when the inaugural draft took place.
-How does drafting UNLV's Anthony Bennett look now, those of you who trumpeted his play as the next LJ?
Posted by: steven payne is a pain | Feb 19, 2014 12:27:01 PM
^^^Might want to check out a Cavs game. People are so reactive. Wanting to run rookies out of town if they don't produce immediately. Talk about Bennett in 3 years. Until then. Shut the F up.
Posted by: Steve | Feb 19, 2014 12:58:20 PM
@steven payne: Better yet, why not save the money you'd spend on Asik and throw Biyombo into the fire, put him along AJ (who doesn't play defense, but has been great on offense) and develop Biyombo's potential--
Better yet, play Zeller, MKG, Biyombo and develop these high pics that we tanked for and still get one more nice pick this summer??
GOT TO DEVELOP THESE HIGH DRAFT PICKS.
Posted by: The Dude | Feb 19, 2014 1:03:25 PM
Does NASTAR have a paying job? I wonder if the couch potato can dribble a basketball, or better yet, shoot the ball in the basket. What a pathetic life to post negative comments all day.
Posted by: Tyrese Jones | Feb 19, 2014 2:15:37 PM
When you look at all the garbage that was on the last Bobcats playoff team. Felton, about to be traded...again. Broken down Wallace. Chandler, one good season every 5 if healthy. Thomas, complete disaster. Jackson, out of the league. etc. etc. Diaw might have been the best player.
At least with this new version. There are young players, no matter how much time they get. The best low post scorer in the NBA. A coach that is not looking to trade us into oblivion. Cap space and draft picks needed to improve.
Turns out breaking up that old band was the right thing to do. This team has a chance to turn into something. Of course, they can completely blow it, but they are close.
Posted by: Henry | Feb 19, 2014 2:20:10 PM
diaw WAS the best player.
the fact that he gets booed here is an indictment of charlotte sports fans intellect.
steven have you actually watched bennett play or just read the stat sheets?
try looking at the game logs. the only times he's played reasonable amounts of minutes.....he's played very well for a 20 year old. the guy can play.
mike brown just can't coach.
and as much as the cavs lack of success is grant's fault for hiring mike brown, he probably should have traded tristain thompson or decided to play him at the five from day one this year. they would have a better w/l record right now going all in on a irving/waiters/miles/bennett/thompson starting 5.
but bennett can play. he shouldn't have been 1, but he absolutely should have been top 5-10.
he and zeller are in similar boats. they should not have been drafted by teams that didn't intend to invest in their development.
and biz being a wasted pick?
21 year old top 10 shotblocker who know rebounds at the rate of top 10, and has a top 10 fg%. what more did you want out of the guy? the only thing holding him back right now is steve clifford. otherwise he might be a DPOY candidate getting ben wallace and mutumbo comparisons galore. he's as offensively limited as any traditional big man.
you guys even watch the games? drummond was getting off on jefferson. didn't do anything when biz was on the floor except set picks because he couldn't even get positioned near the rim and that's the only place drummond can score from (like most centers). what jefferson is to offense, biz is to defense and vice versa. the difference is......i think biz' offense is better than jefferson's defense.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 19, 2014 2:56:25 PM
Wow...I saw the rumors of the Bobcats going after Affalo or Anthony Morrow. I'm OK with either of the two, however, if the Portland Pick is included, that makws sense only if it for Affalo - that is too high of a price to pay for Morrow. Affalo of the bench will work wonders and make him 6th Man of the Year in 2014-2015.
Posted by: RobC | Feb 19, 2014 4:18:54 PM
"...:with that futures game snub."
Snub? The guy wasn't even remotely in the conversation. Draft position isn't an entitlement, especially when you're not even ranked in the top-40 at your position.
HOORAY! Shorty had his very first game of the season with more than 10 assists -- yippee!! Chris Paul, despite missing a large chunk of the season, has...23. Even the lowly John Wall has 13.
8th seed here we come B-A-B-Y!!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 19, 2014 9:25:40 PM
^^^holy sh@t you are a complete.
Posted by: John H. | Feb 19, 2014 10:25:09 PM
....idiot, moron, dope, ass clown, troll, fool.....but at least you are not a Bobcats "slurper". You got that going for you! Sweet.
Posted by: John H. | Feb 19, 2014 10:27:32 PM
NASTAR gets worse when the Cats are playing well. Must kill him that they have a coach and a real low post talent now. God forbid they add another piece. Guys head might explode.
Posted by: Steve | Feb 19, 2014 10:41:30 PM
As for the "oh but We are improving" fallacy...come on slurpers, get your heads out of your *sses!
When you plumb never before seen depths a Dead Cat bounce is inevitable!!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 19, 2014 10:48:55 PM
biyombo is absolutely hooping right now. don't understand how you guys don't love this dude. how he has the same number of blocks as jefferson in about half the minutes is insane. 5th in the league per 36. 5th in block %. dude needs some tick.
8 boards and 5 blocks in 13 minutes. that's sick production in a small span.
and he wasn't the only one. impressive back to back where we basically gave detroit a stiff arm but also might put them in tank mode which could mean portland pick and 2nd rounder only this year. brilliant. eff if, if they just develop the guys we have, we can go somewhere. but it isn't going to be on jefferson's back.
might be on kemba's though. congratulations to him for figuring out the drive and dish if only for one night. that's all he has to do. it's not at all stoppable for a guy as quick as him who can finish as effectively as he can.
as for the trades......morrow isn't at all worth the 1st. i would do the 1st for austin rivers, but morrow should be a 2nd rounder only. but he's definitely worth a 2nd, and a great fit for this roster. outside of curry and jamison probably the best charlottean. only other debatables are mcinnis or workman....unless i'm forgetting someone. would be really cool for him to suit up for some memorable playoff runs and get his dell curry on for the remainder of his career. how they keep not making that obvious move just baffles me.
there's no deal that makes sense for afflalo. swapping him for henderson won't get it done and he's not worth henderson + anything that they want. they want 1's, young players or a comparable vet. why would we give up any of those things?
outside of charlotte.......i'm pulling for rondo going to the rockets, and either lin or jimmer ending up in new york. any of those 3 moves would make this season extremely interesting for those teams. jimmer to new york and going linsanity would be very fun to watch and he definitely has it in him.
somebody please take rod higgins phone and make sure he's not skyping with donnie nelson.
Posted by: charlottean | Feb 20, 2014 12:51:03 AM
If Rod Higgins is talking to anyone, the bobcats are in trouble. His track record is horrendous. If anyone else had that type of performance in their job they would be long gone. Nice to see the team playing better, but with Higgins still there, not feeling vey confident. Bad record, bad drafts, bad trades, crippling contracts. Hopefully his answer to improving the team is not adding his son to the roster. Either the blind squirrel theory applies this year or someone else is making the decisions. But another bad move by this guy and they will be right back at the bottom again. I can only imagine what some of these new age GMs are thinking when they get him on the phone.
Posted by: Chris | Feb 20, 2014 7:35:59 AM
Imposter reporting under my name, again, above. Have I really gotten into your head that badly? Tyrese? Funny thing is there wasn't a new column for like 10 days but as soon as one did pop up this moron immediately started posting under my name -- every day, stewing, angry -- must be driving the poor guy crazy. Can you imagine how bad it must be to wake up that angry every day...and all over some meaningless comments in a newspaper blog? Guy must be a complete moron.
Steve, actually I'm pleased about Clifford and Big Al. The Big Boy is clearly an offensive dynamo and I'm a fan of Clifford, but you continue to lose sight of the realities of the situation. Air Min, Yes Co. & Cho put an AAU coach in charge of this team for a year, I mean are you kidding me?!? Then they finally cave and get a real coach and what message is this coach sending them -- your draft picks suck. Air Min touted Biz as the next Olajuwan but what's the reality? The reality is he's 9th or 10th in the rotation for the lowly Boobs...this while a 37 pick who washed out with 5 other teams is a starter and viewed as a cornerstone of the offense.
Steve, let's get back to the real world and The Promises that were made when The Plan was embarked on...
1. Repeated forays deep into the playoffs.
2. A championship contender.
So what's the reality?
1. Love the Big Boy but he's in his 10th year already, been to the playoffs twice and in the one series where he was a starter Utah got swept 4-0. Do you think he's the guy to lead this team "deep into the playoffs" in like his 14th year? Will he be a "championship" center in year 15?
2. The coach is sending the front office a clear message on their draft records/strategy...you suck. Just ask charlottean... Now charlottean is in complete disagreement with Clifford, which is fine, but there's trouble in paradise folks -- Cho and Cllifford clearly not on the same page. You can phrase it anyway you like but The Plan was to "develop assets"...Biz rides the bench, MKG rarely plays more than 20, Zeller less than that...assets aren't being developed.
3. We aren't even back to where we were before The Plan, a tortuous plan during which the Boobs set all-time NBA records for futility, started. You slurpers act like we've accomplished something, we've accomplished n-o-t-h-i-n-g....well there is that all-time worst season in NBA HISTORY.
When this franchise actually wins something I will be the first to give credit to Air Min, Yes Co & Cho but until then I'm going to hold them accountable for the miserable and unprecedented levels of failure that they have foisted onto us fans....
...accountability people, that's what makes the world go 'round -- join the real world slurpers.
PS...clearly Rod Higgins continues to be large and in charge, how y'all feeling about that?!?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 20, 2014 8:42:10 AM
Why would you care if someone is reposting your exact comments?
Man you are negative. No silver lining to having a good coach and a low post guy whose game will work regardless of age.
MJ's plan to get us deep into the playoffs is actually working unless you want to be cynical.
7 wins, 21 wins, 35? wins. With plenty of chances through the draft and free agency to add to this team. You really have to reach to be pessimistic about that. "Plans" in pro sports are fluid based on a number of circumstances that someone like you can't comprehend for some reason.
They made a "bad" coaching hire and corrected it with huge success. Bravo.
Posted by: Henry | Feb 20, 2014 9:51:47 AM
Per Marc Stein: "Hearing Bobcats continue to press for Bucks G Gary Neal and trying before deadline in 7+ hours to sell MILW on Ramon Sessions-for-Neal deal"
Posted by: apauldds | Feb 20, 2014 10:10:58 AM
Steve...I've watched Anthony Bennett play and he is nothing more than a Developmental League player. I guess to shut you up, I'll have to shove my shlong in your mouth!
Charlottean, your love with Biyombo is quite scary. He is not an all around player, nor will he ever be. He is a deficiency at the free throw line and a defense knows he is going to pass, rather than score. You do not need a player like that, unless it is to come off the bench for a few minutes at a specific time of the game. Once again, you dumb rednecks know nothing about the NBA and it constantly gets hammered home on a daily basis when you write on these threads.
Asik is a double-double player, so don't give me your crap about developing a one-dimensional player in Biyombo. Of course, Cho doesn't have the balls, nor the moxie, to pry him away from Houston.
You dumb hillbillies continue to love your Gerald Henderson and your Biyombo...while no one else in the NBA would give up a ham sandwich for these jokers.
Posted by: steven payne is a pain | Feb 20, 2014 10:22:40 AM
Not all of us dumb hillbillies love Biz and Hendo, but thanks for the kind words Bless your heart.
Posted by: apauldds | Feb 20, 2014 10:36:40 AM
I know that this not my team I do not own it I am just a fan of the Bobcats but man you guys make it hard to even be that. This year the last of the Bobcat era I was hoping for better decisions about it future but I guess I will live with the fact that I support a team that was satisfied being cast as losers from start to finish. A trade for Eric Gordon over Ben Gordon and this team could complete with any team in the east but know they would rather trade Biz the only rim protector you have. Keep Cody even though his best game to date is 12-7-5 .Biz does better with less time.
I do not believe in throwing away Biz without ever trying him an Al together. Biz has played well despite limited time. I not his fault that his coach does not know how to use him. Biz rebounds well and defends the block well what else was he expected to do when he was drafted. These guys at Bobcats Central are idiots and MJ may be the biggest of them all for letting all the players be drafted on his watch and go undeveloped.
Posted by: moboythunder | Feb 20, 2014 11:13:16 AM
OK super scout. Always good to base your opinion on Bennett on a half of a season when the guy was coming off an injury and no summer workouts. Maybe you can let go of your dick long enough to get the NBA package so you can watch a Cavs game. Moron
Posted by: Steve | Feb 20, 2014 11:28:39 AM
So...Gary Neal is coming to Charlotte (according to ESPN), but in exchange who?
Posted by: RobC | Feb 20, 2014 12:31:17 PM
Henry, those reposts above actually are pertinent to your comments...when you win 7 and 21 a Dead Cat bounce is expected. It's basically impossible to be that bad 3 years in a row, even for air Min, Yes Co. & Cho!
If we win 35 this year, what do you expect next year? Walk us through your thesis and how we get there?
You know we won 35 in '08-'09....then we went 44, 34, 7, 21.
Crunch time and our highest paid player and o-n-l-y truly elite player will be in his 11th season next year...
Lastly, if I have to explain to you why is don't like some moron posting under my name....well, you're dumber than Tyrese. Anyone should feel free to copy/paste and preface with "NASTAR99 said "...
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 20, 2014 3:23:02 PM
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