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February 20, 2014

Charlotte Bobcats acquire Ridnour, Neal from Bucks for Sessions, Adrien

The Charlotte Bobcats made a trade-deadline deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, acquiring guards Luke Ridnour and Gary Neal for Ramon Sessions and Jeff Adrien.

The deal should improve the Bobcats’ long-range shooting, as they continue to pursue a playoff spot in the Eastern Conference. From the Bucks’ side, a struggling team acquires two expiring contracts, avoiding the $3.25 million Neal is owed next season.

The Bobcats are giving up primarily Sessions, their backup point guard. He has a special talent for getting to the foul line and was particularly popular in the locker room for his professional attitude. Adrien was a deep reserve, whose salary was thrown in to balance the deal financially.

Ridnour averages 5.7 points and 3.4 assists this season. He can play either guard spot.

Neal left the San Antonio Spurs for the Bucks in free-agency, and struggled to fit into his new setting. He shoots 36 percent from 3-point range, and range shooting has been a big problem this season for the Bobcats, who are trying to hold off the Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks for one of the last playoff spots in the East.

Posted by Observer Sports on February 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM | Permalink

Comments

GREAT TRADE....Neal is a 3pt specialist off the bench who can play a small SG or even end of game SF. Ridnour is the 3rd PG who can actually run the point.

Posted by: raye | Feb 20, 2014 1:08:10 PM

Not a fan of this move. Gary Neal will just take time from Gerald Henderson. Sure he can get hot from 3, but this team sure will miss Sessions when Kemba is not in the game. All I can say is Neal better start raining 3's.

Posted by: Jason | Feb 20, 2014 1:12:08 PM

Please get Danny Granger ! He is ours for a 1st rd pick !!!!

Posted by: Elliot | Feb 20, 2014 1:12:50 PM

@Jason

He wont take more minutes than Henderson was giving up so we could play a Sessions Kemba lineup. This will help

Posted by: spaceman mike | Feb 20, 2014 1:15:49 PM

Like it. Especially with Ridnour. Those who wanted a pass first option at PG just got it.

Posted by: Steve | Feb 20, 2014 1:16:35 PM

This is a lateral move from my perspective.

I like Ridnour more as the backup PG because he’s a distributor (and maybe he can impart some of that to Walker, since Kemba’s never played with that kind of pass-first vet.) However, I don’t see Neal as really offering much different than what Tolliver does. The one benefit to Neal is that he’s signed for next year, so that bench shooter role is filled. I also the fact that he’s experienced life in a winning franchise like San Antonio. Can only help if we get to the playoffs, this year or next.. We won’t miss Adrien much, I don’t think, and remember that Brendan Haywood will be around to take those 10 post bench MPG inside of the next few weeks.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 20, 2014 1:17:03 PM

This is just a wash trade. It won't make us any better or worse. Now I'll be happy if they would just convince Philly to take Ben Gordon and his expiring contract along with the 1st round pick we get from Portland for Evan Turner. Make that happen Cho !!!

Posted by: Bryan Bonds | Feb 20, 2014 1:22:20 PM

@raye

3 point specialist? 36%? That's not even in the top 100 3 pt shooters in the league. Don't see much of an upgrade here with Neal.

Posted by: RB Ron | Feb 20, 2014 1:22:49 PM

This is a great trade. I liked Sessions - but now Pargo will lead the second team and I actually think Pargo is a better shooter than Sessions. Add in Neal, Tolliver, Zeller and Biyombo and you have a solid second team. The Bobcats really didn't give up anything in this trade - since Pargo is as good as Sessions. Ridnour has potential too - but i think it will be Pargo and Neal who get most of the second team minutes.

Posted by: Dom | Feb 20, 2014 1:23:54 PM

@Dom are you serious about a solid second team with Zeller and Biyombo in the same lineup? And sorry to bust your bubble about Pargo but Luke is going to lead the 2nd team. I wish Pargo would get more playing time because i like him but unfortunately he is our 3rd backup.

Posted by: Oates | Feb 20, 2014 1:30:50 PM

I like the trade, it does improve our 3 pt shooting. Even at 36% thats far better than sessions and henderson who needs to be gotten rid of next. I do think we need another low post or volume scorer. Hendo, det 1st round pick for afflalo. Either the det pick, or the portland pick and our 2nd but either way afflalo would really push us to maybe a 4 or 5 seed with us only getting better next year.

Posted by: Shawn | Feb 20, 2014 1:37:12 PM

this is a whatever trade. I'd rather have turner or Hill with sessions going instead of this. Sessions is a big trade chip because of what he's done. Hopefully we use a 1st and Ben Gordon and get one of the mentioned above

Posted by: Miguel | Feb 20, 2014 1:42:55 PM

I Like the trade simply because we have not (YET) given up a draft pick all while getting rid of a defensive liability....there is still a little over 2 hours left, lets hope we keep dealing and depend our bench....Oh and LUKE truly will mesh well with AL....and he will be able to penetrate and open up the 3 for Gary

Posted by: Mr. Fantasma | Feb 20, 2014 1:54:53 PM

I do NOT like this trade. Sessions has been a proven leader and solid backup to Kemba. There were many games early in the season where he was vital in wins down the stretch. He helped tremendously when Kemba got hurt, and he often finished games side-by-side with Kemba in the backcourt. Gary Neal is temperamental and inconsistent at best. Ridnour will join Ben Gordon at the end of the bench. This trade will be the reason the Bobcats do NOT make the playoffs this season.

Posted by: 3eyez | Feb 20, 2014 2:03:04 PM

Time will tell on the trade.

Posted by: par404 | Feb 20, 2014 2:04:39 PM

Talent-wise for this year, we are in a similar spot, but I still like this deal. Sessions is the best player involved but we were not going to be able to keep him beyond this year without paying him more than we want to pay him. At least with Neal, we get a reserve that is on the books for a reasonable salary ($3.25M) for next year. Neal is also a young player who seems to play better in a good situation (Spurs) vs. a bad one (Bucks). Ridnour is a versatile, pass-first guard guard that had respectable stats before he went to the Bucks. He is most certainly a capable backup PG for the rest of the year. With Haywood on his way back and Zeller starting to show some signs of life, Adrien was expendable. That said, I will miss Sessions. He is a pro’s pro. Best of luck to him in Milwaukee and for the rest of his career.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Feb 20, 2014 2:05:12 PM

We improved our 2nd string back court without giving up any draft picks. Considering this team's history that's an awesome trade.

Posted by: apauldds | Feb 20, 2014 2:06:35 PM

Air minumess....boobcats rich yes cho and co..prepare for negative comment from nastar99....in 5 seconds. ..

Posted by: mfreeze3152 | Feb 20, 2014 2:08:24 PM

I'll trade Henderson and Portlands Pick for Aaron Affalo any day.

I like this trade, Neal is shooting 36% from 3PT in a slump because the Bucks are a mess (that 36% is his worst case scenario and still better than all the Bobcats, he is a 39% career shooter from 3PT).

Luke is as good as Sessions (worst case scenario), he is a better shooter than Sessions, has more of a PG mentality and is a little better defender than Sessions.

I like Sessions and he helped this team in any way he could, but I think this trade is a small upgrade for the Bobcats maybe similar to the McRoberts trade...not great, but good.

Now, getting Affalo or Turner in exchange for any combination of Portlands 2014 Pick, Ben Gordon or Henderson (if for Affalo), would be great.

Posted by: RobC | Feb 20, 2014 2:12:52 PM

Cats_Fan, we're the 19th-best team in a league of 30 with a winning percentage easily under .500. What makes this a "good" situation, exactly?

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 20, 2014 2:13:35 PM

That the Bobcats are in the playoffs makes it a good situation (regardless of the record)...ask any player in the NBA.

Posted by: RobC | Feb 20, 2014 2:23:58 PM

Procton - thanks for asking. I would say that having what appears to be a strong coaching staff, being in contention for a playoff spot after the All-Star break, being a team that is playing well together and seems to be getting better over the course of the year make this a good situation. I am under no illusion that it's good like the Spurs and apologize if my remark inferred that. I just think that going from a team where the lottery has been the known outcome for the past month or so to the Cats may breathe some life into these guys. It's not guaranteed, but it is quite possible.

Posted by: Cats_Fan | Feb 20, 2014 2:28:10 PM

I am neutral on the trade, while sessions is the all around better player than the 2 we got in return . But Neal and ridnour we desperately neede for floor spacing and 3 point shooting which sadly made sessions expendable. This is a move that will not propel us into the finals but I think we have a better chance of competing late in games through the rest of the season and playoffs. All in all I give the trade a + grade. But we have 34 minutes left god please god through us a hook , something like affalo or hill, even a mike dunleavy would possibly help. But bobcats stand pat , we don't need or want evan turner or his streaky shooting.

Posted by: Jdub | Feb 20, 2014 2:28:59 PM

mar with a k jim said word up!

Posted by: bwould | Feb 20, 2014 2:33:56 PM

Being a Sixers fan in Charlotte, i wish upon many stars that yall would ship us ben Gordon and portlands pick for Turner. I'd gladly drive back to my home town of Philly and bring Turner back with me....he's a crybaby and a bum and wont help the bobcats at all cause he only plays good if hes allowed to dominate the ball which Kemba already does...so yes please take turner off our hands

Posted by: Eric | Feb 20, 2014 2:34:30 PM

We get better for 3 point shooting from the guards, which was a need, and we pay by taking on Gary Neal's contract for next season; not a big contract, so it shouldn't have much impact on the team's ability to strike deals in the off-season.

I liked Sessions, a true pro with great work ethics, and also Adrien - very good rebounder, very tough and hard working player. But, there weren't many minutes for him (unless a big gets injured).

The improved shooting might help us in this final stretch of the season and in the playoffs, and Ridnour can make up for the loss of Sessions as back-up PG.

At best, it's a marginal improvement.
I'm glad they avoided jumping into some kind of dubious big trade. The more significant moves to upgrade the roster will come in the off-season - through Draft, free agency, or other trade(s). We won't need any big overhaul, just some well targeted tweaking of the roster.

Posted by: Sandy | Feb 20, 2014 3:05:34 PM

Shorty slurpers have to be loving this....threat removed. Was that negative?

So the only trade partner the Boobs could find was the stinkin' Bucks? Imagine that. (that was negative for sure)

From the Milwaukee paper: "A disgruntled Neal did not last long with Milwaukee after signing a two-year, $6.5 million deal in the past off-season. He did not play in 21 games due to coach's decision and was involved in a heated locker-room argument with Larry Sanders after a Jan. 4 Bucks loss In Phoenix."

Awesome! Sounds like a real positive asset to team chemistry...as if Ben Gordon wasn't enough...

...we swap a guy who was "particularly popular in the locker room for his professional attitude" for another guy who wants to fight the coach -- awesome! But the Shorty slurpers are lovin' it...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 20, 2014 3:33:57 PM

I liked the trade we improved slightly on offense and didn't get worse on defense and didn't give up any pics ...we still have ben. now we can have more money to spend in the off season to help get better. ..and we stll have our core young group together. .so there only gonna get better in the seasons to come..

Posted by: shane | Feb 20, 2014 3:43:58 PM

You mean to tell me that Indiana gets Evan Turner for Danny Granger and his expiring contract ? Now someone tell me why we couldn't have gave them Ben Gordon and his expiring contract and the 1st round pick that we get from Portland. I don't understand it. We should've pulled the trigger and made that offer because they would've gotten a better deal with us. Oh well....

Posted by: Bryan Bonds | Feb 20, 2014 3:45:07 PM

Can't believe we traded Sessions who came to the Bobcats with a decent price tag, was a very good penetrator (yeap i said it) and had a nack for getting to the foul line. Sessions was very under rated and will be sorely missed. Plus he was a Carolina guy... Neal better has some big shoes to fill.

Posted by: skyjenx | Feb 20, 2014 3:59:34 PM

NASTAR. back to making up stories again? Where did you read that Gary Neal wanted to fight the coach? Sources please.

This was a good trade in a few different ways. First off we could possibly get Sessions back after the season. Secondly Gary Neal is a cheaper option and someone who could compliment Henderson at the 2 and gives us insurance for next season if Taylor takes a while to get back into form after the Achilles injury. Neal could be that outside shooter that gets us to the 6th seed.

Posted by: nucat | Feb 20, 2014 4:04:47 PM

I don't think this trade makes much sense. Neal and Sessions are the same player in my book. All we have done is trade an expiring contract for a contract with another year on it. Add that to the fact that we're going to be drafting lower (we're going to lose our pick to Chicago and get Portland's, which will be about 25th), and I think the long-term plan has taken a step backward. Good thing Big Al is making his signing look good.

Posted by: J | Feb 20, 2014 4:05:06 PM

Micheal Procton said it well, this trade doesn't make us better and could possibly ruin the chemistry. The Evan Turner trade would have taken us far now and in the future! Now you allowed the Pacers to get even better...smh. If we don't go after a big time free agent it's going to be the same $#!+ we've been going through.

Posted by: BigTyme Bryan | Feb 20, 2014 4:17:56 PM

The reason the Bucks thought he was moody was he got in a fight with Larry Sanders and told him to earn his money. I have no problem with him bringing that attitude to our locker room. He is a role player and so is Luke. Sessions was good here and I hate that he got traded but I think this is a good move for our team. Gave up no real assets and we might not have had Sessions longer than the offseason anyways.

Posted by: spaceman mike | Feb 20, 2014 4:19:00 PM

@J

They are not at all the same player. Sessions was a driver and Neal is a spot up shooter.

Posted by: spaceman mike | Feb 20, 2014 4:20:21 PM

People need to realize Evan Turner isnt good. He has a below league average PER. The only reason his scoring is up is bc the 76ers run the fastest pace in the league. He is getting more shots, and he doesnt have to share with Jrue Holiday. He cannot shoot and cant play defense like MKG

Posted by: spaceman mike | Feb 20, 2014 4:21:58 PM

Sorry, Bryan Bonds said it best!

Posted by: BigTyme Bryan | Feb 20, 2014 4:28:29 PM

For the people crying because the cats didn't get Turner .He suckes he averages 17 points on sixteen shots...and less than average defender..He would have hurt more than helped

Posted by: shane | Feb 20, 2014 4:32:38 PM

@ spaceman mike

17 points a game in the NBA is nothing to sneeze at. I don't care what kind of offense you're playing in. You could still find a way to get MKG his minutes. If he wasn't that good Indiana wouldn't have traded Danny Grainger. They're contenders so I'm sure they know talent.

Posted by: BigTyme Bryan | Feb 20, 2014 4:44:45 PM

I'd love to know what Gordon has done, to land him at the far left side of the bench- all season. While I think Ridnour was a good pick up, Gordon's 40% 3pt avg beats Neal's 36%.

Posted by: Hoagie58 | Feb 20, 2014 4:56:17 PM

@ shane
Just listen to what the people that analyze and do this for living are saying about the young man.

Posted by: BigTyme Bryan | Feb 20, 2014 5:02:14 PM

@ Elliott
Getting Grainger is the next best thing we can do, we should be tired of being average everybody in the East made a move and it keeps us at the 8th spot. Evans could have moved us at lest to the 6th spot and wouldn't have allowed Indiana to to get even better.

Posted by: BigTyme Bryan | Feb 20, 2014 5:14:25 PM

another example of how screwed up this team is from the top down. We traded Sessions for this??????????

Posted by: chris wagner | Feb 20, 2014 5:16:31 PM

"WINNER: Charlotte Bobcats. Charlotte may not have come into this season looking to make the playoffs, but after their fast start and now as the eight seed in the East, they don’t want to give it up. This move helps that. "

Posted by: Truth | Feb 20, 2014 11:10:48 PM

The Spurs take our cast offs, we take the Spurs cast offs. What's wrong with this picture?

Posted by: I Need A Miracle | Feb 21, 2014 2:06:43 AM

Lol. All you guys clamoring for shooters got your wish . Be careful what you ask for . Let's see how much transition defense , on ball defense and help defense they play when they're out there w the ball hogging Jefferson . Lol. Let's see how great they cut . Let's see how well the ball moves and how many hockey assists the Cats get which sets up ball and man movement . This was a good move . But sharp shooters fail way more then they win. Look at the last year playoffs al the way up to the finals . Too much usesage kills you every time .

Posted by: Iron man | Feb 21, 2014 8:59:47 AM

this isn't a great trade, but it is an okay deal. the big positive here is....neal is under contract next year for 3.25mm so we get a guy for cheaper than sessions to hypothetically replace sessions bench scoring but at the backup 2 spot. cuts into cap room, but only slightly and we don't have anybody we can spend that money on smartly anyways. better him than mike dunleavy or some ish.

this is more of a deal just to make a deal. it really doesn't help us all that much. not unless he duplicates his ridiculous post season from last year.


this deal just proves cho's real worth: this deal isn't horrible.

before cho it was deal after deal after deal that was idiotic. taking back bad contracts, giving up good talent and value, giving up young prospects and draft picks for mediocre at best players. since cho we haven't hit any home runs. but we haven't made any HORRIBLE deals.

some ehhh, some not good, some solid, some okay......i peg the maggette for gordon and a 1 deal as being a good deal.

thankfully they didn't get pulled into a deal that would give away any of our young talent for a worthless veteran.

Posted by: charlottean | Feb 21, 2014 10:00:10 AM

"this is more of a deal just to make a deal."

Is this something smart management teams do?

"this deal just proves cho's real worth: this deal isn't horrible."

Now that is hilarious! Like a .09 DUI vs. a .15 DUI...still a DUI.

I thought His Minimumness had turned the operation of this franchise over to Cho? Thought he was large and in charge? I haven't seen his name in print in forever...given the conflict with Clifford is Cho really even a factor anymore?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 21, 2014 1:01:34 PM

Did I see Kemba had 16 assists? It is truly amazing how assists add up when a team shoots 50%.

Posted by: Tyrese Jones | Feb 21, 2014 4:10:17 PM

Tyrese, glad you brought that up. Shorty sure did..1st game all season with more than 10 assists. Despite missing a large chunk of the season Chris Paul has 23 games with more than 10 assists. Even the lowly John Wall has 13 games with more than 10 assists.

Shorty is a speedy little devil, certainly not well read, but speedy for sure. However, the overriding issue is, 3 years from now will an undersized shoot first PG combined with a 13th year post up center be the cornerstones of a playoff winning franchise?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 21, 2014 4:38:38 PM

^^^Not well read? You are a F&%$ing scumbag loser.

Posted by: Matt | Feb 21, 2014 5:03:24 PM

Matt, it's not my fault he'd only read 1 book (ever) upon his departure from UCONN -- that's all on Shorty.

As for the key issue, 3 years from now will an undersized shoot first PG combined with a 13th year post up center be the cornerstones of a playoff winning franchise?

Your thoughts?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Feb 21, 2014 5:18:17 PM

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