April 29, 2014
Charlotte Bobcats owner Michael Jordan reacts to Adam Silver's ruling on LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling
Statement from Charlotte Bobcats owner Michael Jordan on NBA commissioner Adam Silver’s announcement that he is banning Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling from the league for life, fining him $2.5 million and pressing for a forced sale of the franchise:
“I applaud NBA Commissioner Adam Silver’s swift and decisive response today. He sent a powerful message that there can be zero tolerance for racism and hatred in the NBA. I’m confident that the league, our players and our fans will move on from this stronger and more unified.”
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Posted by: LJ wants all black league | Apr 29, 2014 6:09:24 PM
way too harsh decision by silver ...
nba will lose millions of fans ...
chapter 11 bankruptcy ...
sterling did not murder anybody ...
Posted by: ex-nba fan | Apr 29, 2014 6:54:59 PM
Something tells me that Silver and his legal army will not roll over and play dead. Lots of contract issues at play. His history is a litigious one.
Posted by: eduardo | Apr 29, 2014 7:30:15 PM
MJ has been getting everything right lately. This is another example. Franchise value has been skyrocketing since he bought. Team is improving. Has a great coach now. The Hornets change is big for the City and the team. Still has picks and cap space to play with. Maybe it took time to settle in as an owner. No denying things are going in the right direction. Congrats to MJ and the team on a fine season.
Posted by: Aaron | Apr 29, 2014 7:30:23 PM
I hope the bobcats don't plan on passing the ball around the 3 point line for 48 minutes next year like they did this year...
Posted by: Billy | Apr 29, 2014 7:59:52 PM
This decision had to be made in the best interest of humanity much less the NBA. True, he didn't break any laws, but the ethical & social compass that comes along with people has been placed in a context that has nothing to do with being uncomfortable, but a lifestyle that most minorities are trying to sever ties with. There comes a point where you have to either change how you do things or find another place to do it. When you place or in this case force your thoughts or beliefs onto others, tha becomes the issue here. This is bigger than the NBA, it's the lives of people we're talking about & how they're able to function in it
Posted by: David | Apr 29, 2014 9:02:48 PM
NY POST --> Mark Cuban: Here's Why Sterling Should Keep The Clippers
Be interesting to see how the owners vote....looks like Air Min and and Cuban will cancel each other out. When the owners do vote will the NBA make the results public? If 8 or more decline to vote Silver won't have the 75% necessary to force a sale even if all the others vote to do so.
On the flipside, it's possible some gazzillionaire step up and makes Sterling an offer he can't refuse and the issue takes care of itself pronto, but that seems unlikely.
I find it quite ripe that Air Minimum would be so high and mighty on the topic.....this a guy who tried to get an MTV VJ to roll dice for her virginity, while he was married no less!!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 29, 2014 9:03:20 PM
Knee jerk crackpot investigation ...
Pleasee ... Wheres the real investigation? Rush to judgment? Silver blackmaled too.
The oppressed mega millionaire players have become the mega millionaire player oppressors.
Donald Sterling has done nothing wrong except protect his interests. Thought crimes are invalid anyway plus he is a liberal democrat.
At least 50/50 affirmative action ratio diversity needed in NBA to solve the problem.
Everybody knows this was a rigged set up from it gitgo by the gold digger female who had stole 2 million off Sterling all so Magic Johnson could extort the franchise from him.
Sterling really did not want the gold digger bringing Johnson to the game around his players to steal his Clippers but that is what was going down.
Never trust a gold digger bitch ... Obama knew what he was doing commenting on it from Asia and was in on the heist.
Premediated extortion at its finest hour ...
Sterling 100% innocent.
Who is next?
Posted by: da truth & nuttin but da truth | Apr 30, 2014 6:10:53 AM
The owners will vote him out. The number that have already come out to support the commissioner will get him the votes he needs.
Stop the presses. MJ hit on a girl back in the 80s/90s? Talk about a huge story. Ha.
Posted by: Jim | Apr 30, 2014 6:52:10 AM
Jordan's been of very few words, recent over the line verbosity surprises. Disgust a very strong choice of words; cuts both ways. Dismayed? Offended? But disgusted, really?
Posted by: Bubba Brahms | Apr 30, 2014 7:42:51 AM
Sad day for all. Untimely and really stupid comments. Don't belong in either the NBA or humanity. But to ban a guy for Ill advised comments sets a really bad message for freedom of speech. Hmmm...
Posted by: C Wagner | Apr 30, 2014 7:44:29 AM
A black man is disgusted by racist comments. That surprises you? You might have some of your own issues that should explored.
Posted by: Mike T. | Apr 30, 2014 8:23:10 AM
Sterling did this to himself. Everyone thought he had changed. Apparently he didn't and it came back to bite him. He had a biracial girlfriend, gave to several groups and was looking like it was all in his past. However, the darker side was exposed. How many of us would that happen to in the shadows of our own lives. I will not judge Sterling too harshly. I have said and done things that I am not too proud of. I figure he is doing the same thing.
Posted by: Darnell | Apr 30, 2014 8:39:18 AM
Sterling is a racist? Based on what he said - yes - but I have a feeling he was setup because the golddigger didn't want to give up the 1.8 million condo he gave her. We didn't hear what prompted the conversasion - what she said that set him off. Most of it was really directed at Magic and not all black men. I know, I heard the tape - he said some stuff like they are the enemy, etc. But i think he is referring to Magic and didn't want to say his name so he was general. Magic is the face of the Lakers - and the Lakers have done everything they can to undermine the Clippers for 30+ years! Of course he consiiders Magic the enemy and doesn't want his GF posting pics with him. Is Sterling an idiot - yes - but there is more to this that those racsit rants that she conveniently recorded. He is an old man who may just go quietly - and perhaps he has done enough bad in his life that he deserved this - i don't know - i just know something doesn't add up to me.
Posted by: Dom | Apr 30, 2014 8:51:13 AM
I don't know if I'm more disgusted by Sterling or some of these comments that are attempting to excuse the inexcusable.. "Da Truth..."- What's the going rate for cocaine these days?....
Posted by: TheRealJD | Apr 30, 2014 9:08:58 AM
People don't watch the games and buy the merchandise because of the owners. It's the players that drive NBA revenue and Silver was looking at a mass player boycott right in the middle of the playoffs. He had to act quickly and decisively and he did both.
Posted by: apauldds | Apr 30, 2014 10:09:06 AM
Perfect decision by Silver.
The NBA will gain tens of millions of fans.
Sterling tried to murder humanity,intelligence and progress.
He murdered himself.
Posted by: Rave | Apr 30, 2014 10:13:23 AM
I think none of you know who Donald Sterling is (or who he has been). Sterling was not banned for "this" incident. He was banned because he is the most irresponsible owner in the NBA and has an EXTENSIVE history of discriminatory issues, sexual harrasement lawsuits, and many other conflicts and derogatory/offensive comnets and actions. This latest incident was the one that finally pushed him out of the boundaries. The NBA and Adam Silver finally had it with this guy and decided that enough is enough. Many other owners have had bad and as controversial issues, but none have been more extensive, repetitive and constant as Sterling.
Posted by: RobC | Apr 30, 2014 10:26:44 AM
Oh and by the way, I'm caucasian...(just in case).
Posted by: RobC | Apr 30, 2014 10:28:33 AM
Did you all know there is only 1 NBA with a worse won/loss track record that Mr. Sterling? Yup, one, uno, o-n-e. Take a guess...
You know Rich DeVos, owner of the Orlando Magic, is an avowed anti-gay rights financier.....is he next? Should he be?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 30, 2014 1:14:40 PM
It doesn't matter if some of you feel Sterling Silver is innocent or was exercising his freedom of speech. No matter he is banned from the NBA and fined a small amount of money for him, but with a league that about 98% black you should watch what you say especially as an "owner" in these times. He will be fine, he will have a big pay day if he sells the team and he should ask for the price he wants since he can. It's a shame we're still dealing with this different color of skin and other bs issues, that's whats holding us back. It is one DAMN race, the f---n Human Race!! Why is that hard to understand for some of "you people" as they say to us.
Posted by: Hater Hater | Apr 30, 2014 1:55:54 PM
Hater Hater...what's your take on Jay-Z and his affiliation with the Five Percent Nation?
Jay was a longtime Nets owner and only sold his stake because he got into the player representation business recently. Should he be banned from doing business with NBA teams?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 30, 2014 2:03:24 PM
The New York Post! Now it is all coming together. Makes sense that is where you get your info. Let us know what the Onion has to say about it as well. HAHAHHAHAHA
Posted by: Jason | Apr 30, 2014 4:36:05 PM
Jay-Z, from what I hear is not affiliated or an active member of the five percent nation, he has not made comments about players and not wanting certain people to come to the Nets games, plus he was a minority owner and if he did make such remarks about another race at the games or playing for his team, he would have gotten the same. No he shouldn't be banned b/c he wore a gold chain similar to the Five Percent Nation
Posted by: Hater Hater | Apr 30, 2014 5:04:19 PM
Jason, do you think the NY Post is somehow deficient vs. the Charlotte Observer? Have you ever left the confines of Mecklenburg County?
"...from what I hear is not affiliated or an active member of the five percent nation..."
Where do you hear this? There is after all the picture of him in the front row with the gigantic 5 Percent Nation medallion hanging around his neck -- even a moron like Jason can tell what's in the picture.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 30, 2014 7:18:51 PM
Who are you affiliated with NASTAR? Based on the time you spend here and your ludicrous comments the chances of you having any meaningful position for any legitimate company is very very low. I guess it could just be the hobby of a very successful person, but how likely is that now?
Posted by: Jim | May 1, 2014 8:59:01 AM
Ha. Dude spends most of his time reading about the team and owner he hates. Loser for sure. The Post? The stories on the fat Columbian babies and the one on the 200 dead chicken were really good today. Sensationalist rag. Not surprised. Looks like you spend most of your time surfing the web any way. No wonder the Bobcats fired your ass.
Posted by: Jason | May 1, 2014 11:19:18 AM
hahahah now you guys are talking conspiracy theory and ish? wow. nastar you sure know how to drain any smarts out of a conversation.
and i'm hearing phrases like "we don't want to sign someone that affects jefferson negatively"
jesus you guys really think that dude is a franchise player. we have the dumbest fans in the world, easily. what happens when clifford gets the lakers job when ollie and cal turn it down?
Posted by: charlottean | May 1, 2014 4:23:19 PM
^^^Dumb fans? Sure. Like saying a coach under contract to the Hornets is a candidate for the Lakers job. You just trumped every dope that ever posted here.
Posted by: Mike T. | May 1, 2014 4:26:03 PM
Just when you thought NASTAR was the biggest moron here. At least he is just trolling. No way he could believes have the crap he spews. Clifford going to the Lakers? Now that is funny. Might want to stick to how bad Jefferson is even though they doubled their win total and he was the only real player added. Here come all the other ridiculous reasons it happened. "but the East was down" yea. that really helped the Pistons.
Posted by: CD | May 2, 2014 8:32:23 AM
In May of 2011 Doc Rivers agreed to a 5 year extension with the Celtics....
....2 years later he became head coach of the Clippers.
As usual, slurpers can't think outside the box...nothin' but a buncha Air Min leg humpers.
I see Shawn Carter had his I Hate Whitey medallion on again tonight, but tucked it under his shirt in a nod to Silver...
Slurpers, I haven't taken time to find it but am pretty sure His Minimumness is on the record saying no head coach is worth $5 million type money....
...Coach Cliff is a $5 million++ man, y'all better hope Handout King gets out the checkbook, and soon! Boy I'd love to be Coach Cliff's agent right about now!!!
Jason, I'll take that as a no....loser.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 2, 2014 9:39:51 PM
It is a slippery slope when you can have your business taken away for what you say vs what you do. I do not agree with his comments but I heard the NAACP gave him an award. So if MJ told his wife not to take a picture with the skinny white guy Larry Bird he could lose his company?
Sterling should sue the NBA for legal reasons and help small business owners protect our freedom of speech.
Where is the media protecting our rights for freedom of speech?
Posted by: Kelso | May 2, 2014 9:55:04 PM
If NASTAR thinks Clifford is going to the Lakers, someone needs to jump on that bet. The chances were zero before. Now it is into the negative range if he thinks it can happen. The Hornets are going to let Clifford out of his deal to coach the Lakers. Funny. What will the Hornets pay Clifford? Another NASTAR classic. They get the right coach and now he is criticizing them for something that has not happened and is a couple of years away.
Must have killed him not to post for a few days just to try to prove he wasn't obsessed. Talk about having issues. Ouch.
Posted by: Jim | May 3, 2014 7:07:37 AM
No player with more than 7 assists last night and wasn't even a point guard. Glad you need all theses assists at the rim to win in the NBA.
Posted by: KO | May 3, 2014 7:49:38 AM
Of course an ignorant poster would say that about assists at the rim. But if you knew anything , you would look at the hockey assists , free throw assists and total assists at the rim . In any event , if you're trying to imply that Kembas in the league of some , most or any of the remaining pt gds as to transition, on ball defense , help defense , managing the team , making teammates better and respecting hockey , free throw and assists at the rim , you're amazingly stupid .
Posted by: Iron man | May 3, 2014 10:15:32 AM
Charlotean ... That Robin Lopez sure looks good . He stood his ground in the series against Howard and Asik . Fir a lot less money . And so does Milsap . Both as you said would have come here for a lot less money . Along w Lowry or Bledsoe . The Cats would have had 3 spots sewn up that will have to be filled in a yr or so or even before .
Posted by: Iron man | May 3, 2014 10:23:16 AM
Nobody can make Sterling sell unless it's league laws. If its not, the effort should be geared to consumers buying or not buying Clippers tix/gear. If outside forces try to pressure a sale, I hope he goes ballistic on Oprahs fat azz.
Posted by: Ogy | May 3, 2014 6:24:27 PM
“I know the NBA has their crazy fans and all, but if you look at all of their games, there are games when teams like the Bobcats get hardly any fans, and it looks flat out boring".....
Posted by: Frank Kaminsky | May 4, 2014 12:09:39 AM
Nothing is more flat out boring than a NASTAR post.
Posted by: Jason | May 4, 2014 3:48:41 AM
@NASTAR99 -still looking for the MJ quote, genius?
Posted by: the Dude | May 4, 2014 1:09:40 PM
doc rivers was under contract with the celtics last year wasn't he?
jefferson doubled our win total single handed? they doubled the win % and projected total the year before also. went 5-4 without jefferson. they lost more games when MKG went down than anything else. the guy doesn't play defense. he's an elite offensive player. he doesn't play defense. they will NEVER win with him playing center. it's possible he could play next to biyombo and win, but they will never win with him playing center.
you guys act like 43 wins is impressive. the charlotte hornets won more than that 7 times in 14 years with 2 additional years being 41-41. and nobody was tanking back then. even the bobcats of 2010 won 44 games.
i just can't understand how delusional people are about jefferson. you take him off the team do they win 43 this year? no. but they win at least 33 and probably more like 36. and have guys that play better together to make an even bigger jump the following year (next year).
hickson or lopez or milsapp all would have been better fits for less. and more tradeable, too. nobody is banging on the door wanting jefferson for a reason. brooklyn might give up garnett and thornton. maybe. highly debatable. depends if garnett is going to retire or not.
unless they make a major move this offseason or see MAJOR leap in usage from zeller or MKG or efficiency from kemba.......they'll win less games next year.
and if they make the wrong move in free agency? hello detroit pistons of recent history.
we made an impatient half-step when we should have been patient for the full-step. and i've never seen mediocrity so celebrated. the panthers go 8-8 and you swear jake delhomme is the worst quarterback in the history of the game and john fox the worst coach. 43-49 and you want to give jefferson a statue.
delusional, ignorant fanbase who care more about the mascot and jersey colors.
Posted by: charlottean | May 4, 2014 2:10:48 PM
The Celtics were in complete rebuild mode and they let Rivers out of his deal. Do you really think that will happen with Clifford? Is everything you say for effect or just this one? Delusional? Check out a mirror.
Posted by: Jason | May 4, 2014 7:35:13 PM
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 4, 2014 11:57:17 PM
Well it's nice to know these guys are just bullshit trolls. Thanks Jason. Seems like a waste of time, but to each his own.
Posted by: Mike T. | May 5, 2014 6:28:37 AM
Jason, this coming season Coach Cliff has a guaranteed contract, the following year is a team option -- how do you think it plays out from here?
Does Air Min tear up Cliff's deal and give him 5 years at big bucks? Does Cliff coach out the deal and test the market? Something else?
I don't think Jason is capable of presenting a cogent thesis on the subject but figured we'd give him a chance anyway....
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 7:55:36 AM
you guys act like there isn't a buyout clause in his contract. i don't know that there is, but i would speculate that there is. all reasonable coaches contracts do.
the lakers job is a dream job and all the top candidates aren't really available. he worked there before, he had success this season.
is it likely? about as likely as calipari or scott or rambis or ollie or whoever. he's just as likely a candidate as any of those guys. he could parlay his 1 remaining year into a 4 year deal with LA......anybody would take that deal.
especially because once again he'll be viewed as a savior by entering a situation that is only bound to get better with minor tweaks. kobe + resign pau + top pick + high end free agent pick up + a ton of veterans jumping in at the chance to run to LA and play on Kobe's last run + guys like marshall and kelly + steve nash as your backup or 3rd string PG to mentor marshall + having additional cap room/budget flexibility the following offseason and a much larger TV deal.
clifford's agent should be fired if he ISN'T angling this deal.
sorry i live in reality kids. and somebody please explain to these idiots what an internet troll is. nastar is a troll. me saying that the lakers could grab clifford is unpopular. not trolling.
Posted by: charlottean | May 5, 2014 9:51:56 AM
forgot to remind you clowns that not only do coaches salaries not count against the cap or tax, but neither do buyouts. you think jordan wouldn't take 5 million to sell steve clifford? come on.
we didn't win more games this year because steve clifford is some kind of genius. he uses solid and proven schemes that aren't anything original. brett brown, dave joerger, larry drew, jeff hornacek, etc. etc. etc. all could have done it. if dunlap had the same roster he would have won 43 games too. he's the guy that went from 7-59 to 21-61 while getting younger. keep that in mind. he had thomas/mullens/diop/carroll-warrick/williams/haywood
not zeller/jefferson/mcroberts/tolliver/neal/CDR/1 year older kemba-biz-mkg-gerald.
the lakers have a ridiculous tv deal with time warner. the LA market is nuts. if they wanted to, they could give clifford pujols money and not bat an eye (we all know that isn't happening).
they will get the coach they want. if they decide it's clifford......they'll get him. I'm not expecting that to happen given there's 20 other potential hires. its just low probability. but its just as good probability as anyone else. completely plausible.
whatever.....back to you guys talking about how great jefferson's career best 43 win season was and how we're going to build a ~43 win dynasty around him. and trade a few future DPOY's in the process.
Posted by: charlottean | May 5, 2014 10:00:25 AM
"clifford's agent should be fired if he ISN'T angling this deal."
Jason, when you're finished with your burger flipping shift please come back to us on the topic.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 11:02:53 AM
You guys talk about Clifford's contract and the Bobcats/Hornets not being able to keep him as if his salary demands will be crazy.
Clifford makes $2M per year right now. The highest paid coach in the NBA is Doc Rivers (I believe) at $7M (Gregg Pops makes $6M). What is that amount of money that you think Clifford will demand and the Hornets won't be able to pay? I'm pretty sure that if the results continue to be there, visible and evident, the Hornets will be more than willing to give the guy $3-4M per year which is as much as it will take to keep him. That is the average salary of basically every playoff coach, then you add in some incentive bonuses. That should not be a big deal for the Hornets or any other team for that matter. Heck Erick Spoelstra makes $3M per year and he coaches the best team in the NBA for the past 3 seasons.
Posted by: RobC | May 5, 2014 11:54:20 AM
Spoelstra signed a new deal last Fall (team announced it on 9.30.13). His previous deal was $3 million per. With the new deal Spoelstra was expected to "get a significant raise on his scheduled base salary of $3 million".
I bet Spoelstra is making $5mm per at a minimum.
Coach Cliff is anything but average and I bet his agent can get him an offer of $4.5 million per -- we'll see if Air Min & Boob Co. will pony up the cash.
2 years ago 10 coaches (top 1/3rd of league) were making $4.5 million or more and Coach Cliff is clearly an upper tercile NBA coach.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 12:17:01 PM
Just saw some Rookie of the Year voting totals and took a look at last 3 years...
...out of 1089 total votes Boobs players got a total of 6, Shorty got 3 third place votes and MKG got 3 third place votes (from local media leg humpers no doubt).
So in the last 3 years we've had a #2, #4, #7 and #9 but have managed only 6 total leg humper votes in ROY balloting (and only 3rd place votes at that)...
...yet you slurpers cite "lots of draft picks" as a reason the Boobs have a bright future?!? Shoot me.
Air Min, Yes Co. & Cho would be better off to let a baboon throw darts, odds of getting an impact player would definitely improve!
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 2:14:39 PM
Two things for you jokers.
Charlottean. I will bet you any number you want that Clifford is coaching the Hornets next year. How much are you willing to wager. How is that for living in reality? Thanks for proposing unlikely scenarios just to be an ahole. Closing in on NASTAR territory there. Nice job!
ASSTAR. So he has this year and a team option for a second. Which means he is locked in for 2 more full years. First thing you do, is exercise the team option. If next year is going well. You look at a longer term contract. They have probably already locked him in. Of course they have no obligation to disclose, but you will assume they haven't because you are a douche bag former employee. So there is that.
Two morons turning non issues into issues. If only you had jobs. People would really enjoy that kind of daily idiocy.
Posted by: Jason | May 5, 2014 3:34:31 PM
NASTAR99- you've truly shown your lack of understanding in just about anything the past month, chief.
Take Walker, you know I don't like him either. Off the bench? Sure, I'd take him, but not as a starter.
But I don't blame Cho/MJ for it.
The reason is….(wait for it)…. who else was there at #9? Leaving early for the NBA has diluted the draft quality, nitwit.
I want a point guard that is tall enough to ride ALL the rides at Carowinds, too, but there was only a couple of people that you could legitimately argue should have been drafted before Kemba. I think it was Klay Thompson, Ken Faried in the mid020's….. and someone else. Yeah, I'd take Thompson right now for sure, but I'm not going to freak out that they chose Walker 1st given how well he did in the NCAA.
Research your stuff before you post, dude. Consider the aspects that happen away from the ball (defense), and do your own research before coming on here and spewing what you read on whatever bloody website you read where it's the sources-of-my-source's-source said MKG is terrible and "mj said blah, blah, blah"..
Posted by: the Dude | May 5, 2014 3:47:10 PM
2 years removed from only winning 7 games, winning 43 and finishing 7th in the East is a big deal. Al Jefferson was the best center in the conference last season. There's no pleasing Charlottean.
Posted by: apauldds | May 5, 2014 3:53:31 PM
some of you confuse me with nastar because he posts RIGHT after me.
they are definitely on a better path, i just hate the jefferson signing. they were on a better path prior to that and would have continued with a milsapp or lopez or hickson signing as noted. jefferson was like 2 steps forward for 3 steps back.
and jason, i don't know what you are saying. I didn't present a random hypothetical. The guy worked for the lakers LAST SEASON. he then became considered a great hire for us. i guarantee you mitch kupchak has a board filled with names and i guarantee you clifford is on that board. he's almost definitely not top 3, but top 3 might not be happening either.
i'm an a-hole for mentioning reasonable possibilities? OK. i'm an a-hole for pointing out that the hornets did better in 7 out of 14 years than the bobcats EVER did?
bringing the name back doesn't change the fact that higgins still works at the top of basketball opps.
differing from NASTAR, i think jordan has done almost everything right since buying the team except firing higgin.s
Posted by: charlottean | May 5, 2014 4:30:10 PM
" i guarantee you mitch kupchak has a board filled with names and i guarantee you clifford is on that board."
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 4:49:59 PM
There's no way Clifford will be considered for the Lakers job . He's a terrible offensive coach .he never ran the pick and roll w other players . His offensive was too boring and too heavily Jefferson laden . He never could figure out how to incorporate the wings in the offense .
Posted by: Iron man | May 5, 2014 5:08:48 PM
"But I don't blame Cho/MJ for it."
Oh yeah? Well who do you blame? Remember we had the #7 in that draft too.
"Leaving early for the NBA has diluted the draft quality..."
How so? Explain please.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 5:39:28 PM
"They have probably already locked him in."
Bullshit. This franchise is starved to announce good news...if they had Cliff locked down we'd have heard from them about it.
Whatever happened to that guy who I gave permission to post my name and position with the team? Was that you posting under another name?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 5:43:23 PM
You gave someone permission to post your name? Why, so you can just deny it? That really gives you some credibility.
Starving for good news? Again your hatred and simpleton attitude shows through. That might be the most ridiculous one yet. The accolades for doubling the win total, the playoffs, the Al signing, the Hornets. Yep. Just starving. What an a hole d bag. Glad to know you are not a former employee. Just makes you more of a douche. Now you have no reason to be a hater. I don't buy it for a second. But whatever floats your little boat.
Any takers on the Cliford bet? Didn't think so. Is it possible? Anything is possible. Do any of you really believe it? Of course not. That is what makes it an ahole comment.
Posted by: Jason | May 5, 2014 6:25:40 PM
LOL... Last post I was a "d-bag former employee" and now you're glad to know I'm "not a former employee"....you're an easy one ;). What time does the burger flipping shift start tomorrow?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 5, 2014 6:57:28 PM
Let's see. You said you are not a former employee. I said I don't believe it for a second...and that's what you get out of it? Do you realize how F'd up you are? You don't even qualify to flip burgers. You can't even read. If there is one person that posts here that had a meaningless job, it is definitely you. The Troll King!
Maybe the Post will do a story on Clifford going to the Lakers. I can't wait to see if this bold prediction comes true. Ha! Ha!
Posted by: Jason | May 5, 2014 7:42:12 PM
Please don't tell me you are having a conversation with NASTAR. You must be new here. Sheesh.
Posted by: Dom | May 5, 2014 8:29:33 PM
OMG...did you all see the line The Great Chris Paul put up tonight?!?!
8-9 3pt'rs...12-14 fg's...10 assists, unreal!
Can you imagine?
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 6, 2014 12:30:40 AM
Doesn't look like Clifford's name is emerging in the Lakers search.mNo way he would go for a job that either of the Van Gundys are up for any way. Sometimes it's like the commenters here don't even follow basketball.
Posted by: Mike T. | May 6, 2014 6:31:36 AM
Have you seen Kevin Durant? He will win the MVP this year. Can you imagine?
Posted by: Jason | May 6, 2014 8:42:32 AM
it's an a-hole comment to say that clifford is probably among the top 10-15 names on kupchak's board and he's probably one of the 5 most possible?
you must think everything is an a-hole comment.
oh chris paul could do what he did in game 1 in another game this playoffs.
Portland might actually win this thing.
Greg Monroe might actually end up back in detroit because a new GM might realize how valuable a player he actually is and figure out a way to move josh smith for boozer or something.
Mike you think he would be offered the job and say "oh no, thanks.....i heard stan and jeff were interested"
we're talking about the lakers job. we aren't talking about the bucks. it's not a job offer you turn down. not even jackson would have turned that down last year. the only people that would turn it down are the guys that have the college equivalent jobs: Coach K, Coach Cal, and Coach Roy. The lakers job is like Megan Fox walking into a night club. Every girl in the building is handcuffing the dude she's with knowing the threat at hand.
Kevin Ollie is leveraging it for a raise and he STILL might take the job. Clifford doesn't have a great job/contract to lose like those guys do.
"it's like the commenters here don't follow basketball"
like the guys that think you can build a contender around a center that doesn't play defense? or the guys who think 20 year old MKG is a bust? or the guys who applaud clifford's improvement, but railed on dunlap for the same if not arguably better improvement?
which commenters exactly?
Posted by: charlottean | May 6, 2014 12:50:21 PM
Clifford does not have a fraction of the head coaching experience the serious candidates do . He did not control light weight no passing ball hogs like Kemba and Jefferson . Kobe is on another planet w his ego manical tripping . The Lakers win if only they sell seats and season tickets . They will get a well known highly experienced guy . Someone who can build a total offense out . Someone who can get the best from each player . Not just two . Calipari got every ounce out of each player and infused it in the offense , designing stuff that fit the talents he had . Mkg showed you what he can do . But Cliffird doesn't have the skills to bring it to the table each game . Thibbs made Noah the point center to get back doors , lobs Pick n rolls , a roller hitting a baseline cutter etc . It was going to happen . Clifford can't do this . He knew Kemba couldn't run the pick n roll but never adjusted . The team suffered in the season and in the playoffs . It's what will ultimately get him fired . There's no way the wings , as good as they are were not used efficiently . Clifford never had a system where there were a steady diet of assists at the rim , back doors pick n rolls , hockey and free throw assists . It was easy to beat him in the playoffs . The spot up shooters never got open shots bc they never had anyone to rush in , draw defenders and dish out . When you shoot a contested shot , your oer centage goes down 20% . The clocks ticking . The honeymoon is over . He's not a serious candidate for the Lakers job and these are the reasons why . I agree w Charlotean except about Dunlap only bc I'm not sure he could develop a defense the level Clifford did . His offense was better by far . The wings for sure were putting out better , ESP Henderson who averaged 20 a game after the break . Kemba too . Mkg was better . If Clifford can't build out an offense like Thibbs n doc or Pop, he has to go .
Posted by: Iron man | May 6, 2014 4:59:52 PM
. "what happens when clifford gets the lakers job when ollie and cal turn it down?"
Sorry man. That is a a douchey statement. There is not...just as likely...it is plausible....etc. you just came out and said it. The odds Clifford ends up in LA are so low in one has even mentioned his name. Very NASTAResque. It's like NASTAR saying they won't pay Clifford even though they have him for 2 more years. Pointless and said for effect.
Posted by: Jason | May 6, 2014 6:34:59 PM
I said if dude.
hypothetical scenarios are douchey now? jesus aren't you a clown talking like that on the internet.
it was a reaction right after they fired dantoni. a job like that comes open and our guy has worked for them before. our guy is prime to jump at the next best opportunity he gets because it will probably be the last one he gets.
the warriors just fired mark jackson. you think that clifford and his agent aren't taking note? that's how the nba works.
K and cal turned it down. ollie is saying he's staying at uconn and they're about to give that dude as much money as the lakers with more stability and comfort.
who is next on the big board? mark jackson? doubt it. byron scott? doubt it. brian shaw says he's staying put, too, miffed that he didn't get it last year.
the only thing "douchey" is that you're acting like it's beyond reasonable. and it just isn't. there's only 30 jobs so it's improbable that ANYBODY gets the jobs by way of statistics. but realistic? the dude is in the discussion. they're talking about thibbs and that dude has 3 years guaranteed remaining on his contract. with a much bigger buyout i'm sure. and much less reasons to leave.
"douchey" would be comparing me saying that to the guy saying that kemba should be playing in the italian league and all the other BS that dude says. i didn't say a thing about jordan paying the guy. Jordan hasn't been tight on the purse strings at all. he's increased staff, doled out some pretty sizeable free agent deals, etc. I don't agree with that at all.
I'm just saying.....if they offer it, clifford's gone. and it's not outside of the realm of possibilities or even unexpected that he gets asked to interview.
they're talking about steve kerr for eff's sake.
when megan fox walks in a club, girl's get nervous. lakers job become available and owners/gms/ADs/etc. get nervous the same way.
Posted by: charlottean | May 6, 2014 8:51:38 PM
Jason likes to make things up. I never said they wouldn't pay him....I said he's gonna cost 'em a bundle, I'd love to be Cliff's agent, and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. Jason, you're very shortsighted, some would say stupid....that's what stupid people so, overlook potential results that however unlikely, are in fact within the set of possible outcomes. Jason, get yourself some education son, flipping burgers ain't no way to go through life....
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 6, 2014 9:58:46 PM
Charlottean. That was your exact quote. There was no "if" any where in it. What happens when is a lot different that what happens if.
NASTAR. So you didn't say they won't pay him. So that means you think they will pay him. Good to know. Glad The team got that option on Clifford. Smart move.
Burger flipping. That is even weaker than your usual go to put down. Looks like stand up comedy didn't work for you. Check back when you get your 15 minute break this morning.
Posted by: Jason | May 7, 2014 6:31:22 AM
Michael Jordan's true racist colors come out in the Sterling wake. Will he be chastised and banned from the NBA for this book? More free passes?
Posted by: Will NBA ban admitted racist Jordan? | May 7, 2014 6:57:58 AM
when you read "what happens when clifford......" you don't read that as a hypothetical question?
how effing retarded are you?
you think the question was "douchey"......imagine how you look trying to act like that statement was meant to imply that clifford to LA was 100% fact and a done deal. i'm no rex chapman.
no different than me saying at the beginning of the year: "what happens when we win about 38 games, grab an 8 seed, get swept by miami, and win just enough to lose out on a top 10 pick this year."
Posted by: charlottean | May 7, 2014 7:34:50 AM
What happens when? Nothing because it never had any real chance from the beginning. Which you obviously knew. So you said it why exactly?
What happens if would have been a better way to express yourself. Nice little hypothetical. I am sure you will pick on it eventually. Actually for someone still using the word retarded it might take a while.
Posted by: Jason | May 7, 2014 8:07:53 AM
Gold digger arrested 4 times with 6 aliass and has a drug problem. Major criminal.
Clearly this slut was used as a set up against Sterling.
Great 24 hr investigation by Silver. What a crock. Third world justice. Obama behind it all and lays low like a snake. Earvin Johnson wanted the Clippers.
Silver needs to be terminated immediately ..
Innocent Sterling needs his team back ASAP..
Impeaching Obama too good for his meddling and tampering micro management BS.
Posted by: Fire incompetent Silver | May 7, 2014 9:09:21 AM
how do you suppose it has no chance? they still haven't made a hire.
what are you 5 do I have to use like or as to tell you that i'm making an analogy, too?
look up retarded in a dictionary. describing you and your commentary as retarded (opinion) is correct usage of the word. There's nothing non-PC about using it in that context. Using it to describe a mentally handicapped, intellectually disabled, or person with a learning disability would be the offensive non-PC version you're looking for.
Right, you're the guy that stops using words because other people tell you to.
Sorry - please continue telling me how far fetched it is for the lakers to hire a coach that used to work for them as an assistant before having a (sort of) successful first season as a coach for a minor league NBA franchise.
then tell me about all the championships jefferson is going to win us by not playing defense.
what effing planet do you live on?
Posted by: charlottean | May 7, 2014 9:56:48 AM
You keep saying Jefferson doesn't play defense, yet the Cats were one of the best defensive teams in the league last season. Either Al's learned a few things from Ewing or the team has successfully compensated, so the point becomes rather moot.
What other center would you rather have and would the Hornets have a chance of landing him?
Posted by: apauldds | May 7, 2014 11:46:01 AM
^^^Agreed on your question about FA centers and chance of landing them,…. but *$$$* changes things, as it certainly did in Al's case. (at the start, many thought we overpaid for AJ, ironically he's played even better than advertised).
Charlottean's point is 100% valid- although I freaking love those old school post moves- he plays very soft D and that's after kicking it up a notch for Clifford.
Posted by: the Dude | May 7, 2014 12:58:19 PM
^^ Unfortunately, the days of centers that have Big Al's post moves AND play killer defense can only be found on ESPN classic and old VCR tapes…...
Posted by: the Dude | May 7, 2014 1:21:10 PM
oh wow. you guys want to argue that he plays defense now?
i love that dude's post moves too. dude is NICE on offense.
if he was a 4 man like david lee or ryan anderson/rashard lewis or dirk or boozer where they get paired with a bogut or chandler or dalembert or shawn bradley or noah - it works fine. if mcroberts was serge ibaka (or biyombo) it would work better also. i'm not the only one who has made that comment before.
Posted by: charlottean | May 7, 2014 2:06:29 PM
"So that means you think they will pay him."
It is in the set of possible outcomes, yes.
However, there is an element of uncertainty -- you're too stupid to anticipate it but there is a chance Cliff gets a better offer away that Air Min, Yes Co. & Cho choose not to match.
After all, we still have Son Silas. We all remember that you were in the camp that thought Silas & Son were the long term solution at the coaching position...LOL.
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 7, 2014 2:12:35 PM
Camp? To keep a 70 year old coach? Try again. Nice to know that you think they will now pay Clifford or have you not made up your mind yet. Way to make a stand. Let me know when over the next 2 years that Clifford, under contract to the Hornets, will get his big offer.
and Charlottean. You really think there is a chance Clifford will get the Lakers job. Quit jerking yourself off. Let me know when he gets that offer. Actually, let me know when his name even surfaces. "What happens when...." Uh nope.
Two douches in a pod.
Posted by: Jason | May 7, 2014 4:03:31 PM
Charlottean, you didn't comment on why the Cats played such good team defense despite having Jefferson at the 5.
Posted by: apauldds | May 7, 2014 5:22:50 PM
Clifford is going to the Lakers? Where did that come from?
Posted by: Real | May 7, 2014 9:37:02 PM
In Clifford's defensive scheme , Jefferson is a big body . Not much else . He's the reason Mkg and Henderson have to rotate from a spot far away from their men to play help defense and then go back to play great on ball defense . Don't kid yourselves . Jefferson has stone feet . He's a terrible on ball and help defender. He cannot as well defend the pick n roll . Or pick n pop . You put a real defending center in place of him and you won't be exposed in the playoffs or against top games in the season . The defensive scheme beats average or worse teams and allows them to compete . That's it . If you want to go further , it's not w Jefferson .
Posted by: Iron man | May 8, 2014 5:47:34 AM
Jason, don't deny it, you were a Silas & Son slurper. Dad drives for a year or two until son is ready to take the wheel....yeah that was a great idea you and all the other MJ leg humpers had.
How about this, name 2 things you think Air Minimum has done wrong in his 8 year tenure as chief operating officer of the Boobcats...just two? Given your status as a leading MJ leg humper I bet you can't...
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 8, 2014 6:12:14 AM
Wow. You really thought Slias Jr was going to be the coach of this team? Where do you come up with this garbage. Holy crap you are a dope.
Two things. Should I do one for Cuban, Buss, Gilbert, Dolan, etc. the purpose exactly? Jordan made 2 with the same player. Trading for and signing Thomas. Feel better? Now you and your buddy can sit around and wait for that big Lakers offer to come for Clifford.
Posted by: Jason | May 8, 2014 7:39:41 AM
You guys are even wrong about what you think Jordan is wrong about. Tyrus Thomas was a Larry Brown, Rod Higgins debacle. Yes. You can say an owner is responsible for everything, but I don't hear gores getting blamed for singing Josh Smith in Detroit. Everything in Charlotte is MJ's fault. What A joke.
Posted by: Real | May 8, 2014 9:42:17 AM
applauds.....they were schemed well to compensate for it and they played a slow pace. the stats when MKG was out were horrible and the stats were at their best the first part of the season when biz/mkg/taylor were playing a ton.
the biggest factor in defensive efficiency is transition buckets. we didn't give em up because we didn't turn the ball over. we didn't turn the ball over because we played a ton of post up offense through al.
by default, that makes the argument that al's offense is in fact, good defense. and that is true. that's why we will forever win 36-45 games with him in the lineup healthy and capable to score.
but to get to 50-60 wins and contender status? you need a guy that can score in the post AND guard the rim.
portland looked so good this year because they had the upper echelon wing defenders in matthews and batum (like we have in hendo and mkg) and they had aldridge protected by robin lopez who has the opposite game of his brother. if jefferson was able to guard 4's reasonably and play alongside biz......we would be in great shape. even having zeller in the lineup and developing his shot blocking as a help defender could go a long way.
swapping mcroberts in for mullens was a HUGE defensive upgrade. mullens was just lazy and ball-less. completely capable talent and athletically, just didn't choose to. in a lot of ways jefferson is the same way. he chooses to play offense over defense.
jason - comparing me to nastar just shows how little you're reading. he jumps on board with other peoples tidbits here and there to appear to be building some consensus to his ideas. dude is a jordan hater. i'm far from it. jordan is the only reason we still have an nba franchise at this point. we've had horrible tv and attendance numbers for 10 years straight. and wasted the good years of a great arena that is now old by pro sports standards.
i simply threw out how scary the lakers having an opening is. it leads to coaches all over the country getting overpaid extensions. i never said clifford was at the top of the list, but dude is DEFINITELY on the list.
the list is something like this:
jackson - nope
ollie - nope
coach K - nope
roy - nope
cal - nope
thibbs - nope
kerr - he's going to pick between GSW, LA and NYK. For obvious reasons i think he takes the NYK job, dantoni gets the GSW job (insanely perfect fit) and thus.....
mark jackson enters the lakers discussion. not sure he actually gets hired.
ettore messina (who should get the job but won't)
then there's a desperate group who want to be hired
before they look at promising young coaches they can steal away from somebody. hornacek, joerger, clifford, budenholzer is that list. nobody else fits the bill. The lead assistant crop was depleted last summer (by those guys getting jobs). throw brian shaw on that list (who had a quietly solid year given the fact he had like 30 million in suits all year plus 8 point guards get injured and andre miller opting out mid season), but shaw has said adamantly publicly that he's not leaving denver and i believe him. he was PISSED he didn't get a go last time. he was due. they passed on him, he's miffed, he moved on. i think it's as likely to more likely clifford gets the job as brian shaw. jordan would be more inclined to take a 5 million dollar check than kroenke.
there just aren't good options laying there for them. fred hoiberg might be the best hire they could make outside of messina, and they just won't make those moves. far more likely they buyout clifford or hornacek.
i'm not pulling for it to happen, i'm just saying.....are they going to hire mike dunleavy? van gundy(s) are great coaches and 2 of the smartest guys in basketball, but the loud mouth aspect of them is not something that jives with what the lakers need. if howard was still there, the job is stans. he's not, it's not happening. more likely stan is in houston in 2015.
purely speculation. speculation that i wouldn't have thought about twice after the initial reaction to dantoni's firing........but you acting like it's absolutely insane has furthered the conversation.
far from insane. far from it.
Posted by: charlottean | May 8, 2014 10:05:12 AM
^^What he said.
Can't believe the Rockets are keeping McHale and not going after a better coach- especially George Karl- talk about a great fit.
I hope Stephen Curry gets a better coach than Dantoni, though. It's be a nice running team… but defense wins championships
Posted by: the Dude | May 8, 2014 2:41:55 PM
I agree about defense winning championships, but dantoni has come close enough in phoenix with comparable talent to what is there in GSW right now, but in most of those years the guys were older.
he would be getting curry, thompson, barnes, green core basically before they hit their prime. you could literally take those 4 and add a guy like biyombo or nerlens noel, or plumlee or adams and win a championship. it's just too good of a fit offensively for the most talented offensive team. dantoni gets such a bad rep for having 2 disastrous stops after having a LONG run of success in phoenix.
because of that, and GSW's puzzling front office that somehow nailed a ton of draft picks, made a ballsy trade for bogut.....but marginalized barnes by signing igoudala.....i don't have much faith they'll make the right hire.
i actually like mchale in houston. he's not a genius, but I think he's a good enough coach for that group. they lost an incredible series. none of these teams out west should really be making too many changes. try to get better but subtle moves. They lost evenly matched, close series in round one. doesn't mean they did much wrong.
Miami would have fits with memphis, GSW, houston, or dallas. and they're making some knee jerk reactions.
Posted by: charlottean | May 8, 2014 4:29:05 PM
" You really thought Slias Jr was going to be the coach of this team?"
Of course I didn't...but you and your slurper posse did. "Slias"?
Clearly you were on board with Silas Sr. being hired in the first place. And Dunlap?
Real, stop deluding yourself...Air Min makes all the calls -- Larry Brown has no autonomy whatsoever on player personnel decisions. Slurp away fool...
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 8, 2014 5:11:36 PM
" we've had horrible tv and attendance numbers for 10 years straight."
You do realize Air Minimum has been in complete control since June/2006, right? He OWNS all those crappy results...
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 8, 2014 5:14:56 PM
LB had a way of whining into whatever he wanted at every stop- great coach though.
Posted by: the Dude | May 8, 2014 9:12:01 PM
nastar - you completely ignore all the variables to those results.
george shinn and bob johnson both had a bigger impact from 1998-2004 on the attendance from 2004-present than jordan or ANY bobcat player had.
there are BASKETBALL fans that couldn't name 10 bobcats players over the course of the franchise. shinn moving the team + johnson's attitude and horrible business practices own a majority of the blame.
jordan has been in charge of basketball operations, but there have been a TON of positive changes to the business side of things since he took over and a lot of the staff hasn't changed, just the guy cutting the checks. and the CBA.
jordan is far from a bad owner. he's not a good GM, and rod higgins is even worse. probably bottom 5 all-time. top 2 candidate. jury is still out on Cho.
but owner? any other owner would have taken that chris hanson money and bounced to the beach. "wake up in trinidad like eff it, i'm rich"©SP
you see the size of the scouting department pre 2009? and now?
these mfers had 2 scouts 1 season under johnson. 2. jordan is nowhere near that bad or that cheap like you make him out to be. is he cuban? no. but who is?
Posted by: charlottean | May 9, 2014 9:48:06 AM
Interesting comment by Steve Kerr on Chris Paul. He said Paul is listed as 6' but he is no taller than 5'11".
I guess Kemba is taller than Chris Paul. LOL
Posted by: Tyrese Jones | May 9, 2014 6:49:53 PM
Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 9, 2014 10:43:15 PM
UConn wins NCAA and look at their ranking...
Kemba taller than CP. LOL
Well as I always stated, CP will never ever win a championship even with all the great players that he's played with his entire career. How many years has he been a pro?
Posted by: Tyrese Jones | May 10, 2014 9:02:03 AM
chris paul was measure 5'11.75 w/o shoes at the combine when he was 20. 6'1 in shoes.
kemba measured 5'11.5 w/o shoes, 6'1 in shoes.
they're both short, but let's try some facts out.
Posted by: charlottean | May 10, 2014 2:18:02 PM
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