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April 04, 2015

Big Al's knee means Charlotte Hornets' season is over

Three takeaways from the Hornets’ soul-sucking loss to the Indiana Pacers:

            It’s over: Sadly that has slightly less to do with the record than the fact that Al Jefferson might be done for the season. No way they recover from that:

            Free Vonleh: Go at it. Play him 40 minutes a night. It doesn’t much matter now in a lost season.

            Opprtunity: I keep hearing what a special talent P.J. Hairston is: He shot 0-of-5 on a night when it was perfect for him to get them in the game.

Posted by Observer Sports on April 4, 2015 at 02:21 AM | Permalink

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The players have quit on Clifford . This is what he gets for going Al , Kemba and Mo . Couldn't wait to pair the midgets together ,having no clue They would jack , not dedend and not facilitate .

Anybody says Kemba is the point gd of The future is a clown like him . Can't shoot . Can't defend . Can't hit the three ball . Can't set up teamates . A 48 million dollar joke .

Posted by: ironman | Apr 4, 2015 4:23:56 AM

No more Al. Now the season can actually start. Free Vonleh? Rick you are a clown. Al has been hurt, out of shape and the worst defender in the nba. Now you want to free Vonleh?

The coach is bad. It has been clear all season. Can't control his players. Has zero feel on who should play together and when. Not much into development. Can't implement an offense other than throw it into Al.

You want to see tanking? Watch what this guy does next. No way he wants to see this team play well without Al. It will be ugly with the strangest lineups you have ever seen. Here we go! Only good news is he won't be here next season.

Posted by: Real | Apr 4, 2015 7:29:06 AM

Why isn't there any mention of Kemba going 1 for 9? For the season, Kemba has a field goal percentage of .388.

Posted by: Jon | Apr 4, 2015 7:37:12 AM

Disagree with you regarding importance of Al. They've won without him. At best he's a wash...whatever offensive punch he gives is negated by abysmal rim play on defense. Man is just not physically able to sustain such a big body. Any future role should be off bench.

Posted by: eduardo | Apr 4, 2015 9:36:01 AM

Rich Cho is total trash

Posted by: Yo | Apr 4, 2015 10:05:38 AM

Bizfumble played the entire 2nd half....what happened?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 4, 2015 1:48:59 PM

What happened? He just missed a double double. Had 3 blocks and was a +1. That is what happened.

Posted by: Real | Apr 4, 2015 5:41:14 PM

Oh is that how slurpers keep score? Great.

Should the Boobs hang a banner for Bizfumble just missing a "double double'? Maybe it could say "most almost double doubles"?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 4, 2015 6:14:55 PM

Maybe it could say 10-4 when he starts and 22-39 when he doesnt.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 4, 2015 6:36:56 PM

sorry, it's 11-4 now (even without zeller and mkg)


don't give me that "it was philly" bs. we lost to philly, new york and lal with al starting.


it continues to be insanely obvious. unless there's an elite shooter available in the draft, they should package the pick and al for a shooter or 2, come back with kemba/lance/mkg/zeller/biz with gerald/marvin/vonleh/taylor and a pg off the bench. playing kemba as the scorer and lance as the playmaker and primary pick and roll ballhandler.

that team wins 50 games. for several years.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 4, 2015 10:29:15 PM

Biz started and got all the minutes 2nd half of the Pacer game yet they lost ground -- what happened?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 5, 2015 8:58:31 AM

He did not play 24 min in the second half. Maxiell got abused and they didn't lose ground while biz was on the floor all in all. He only got 24 min total.

Watch the games dude. Which comes first? You say something smart or Jordan sells the team?

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 5, 2015 8:43:26 PM

Nobody said he played "24 minutes" just that he started and got all the starters minutes and they lost ground, period.

You said all they had to do was start Biz to win 50 are you backing away from that?

Hey, while you are at it how about some more details on Michael Jordan manipulating the accounting in order to cheat his minority partners out of their positions...can you teach me more there?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 5, 2015 8:51:18 PM

Didn't cheat them, they signed up for it. In the contacts for minority partnerships. Share dilution is just as legal and commonplace.

They didn't "lose ground" while biz was on the floor. Maxiell came in and Indiana had a huge run. Watch the effing games.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 6, 2015 11:24:14 AM

"Didn't cheat them, they signed up for it. In the contacts for minority partnerships. Share dilution is just as legal and commonplace."

Wait a minute, you said Michael Jordan isolated all the losses in the basketball operations but made it up on the arena side -- and as such the overall organization is profitable.

Then you said Jordan bought out minority shareholders who could not (or chose not to) fulfill a capital call.

Since the overall operation was (supposedly) profitable the only way minority investors could have been issued a capital call is through flawed accounting as the partnership agreement specifically states that losses/gains are shared pari passu based on ownership percentages. How many K-1's do you get every year? They all arrive for 2014 yet?

Please help me understand where I am wrong?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 7, 2015 9:56:09 AM

i said almost none of that.

first off.....i'm not even sure a separate entity handles arena operations. pretty sure that all gets rolled in. what i said was, over the recent years (not 2009 like you keep quoting) arena operations have improved significantly through ad partners and added event usage and improved attendance leading to higher concessions, etc. that, i know to be true.

arena operations are not included in the "basketball operations" data you have quoted numerous times because not every team owns and operates their arena. that, i also know to be true.

then....when talking about cash calls......i'm not talking about recent. I'm unaware of any cash calls in the past 2 years. back when he himself was a minority partner, there were several. shortly after, there were some. every business in the US had cash calls in 2008-09.


To review for the slow guy.....all i ever said was, basketball operations don't include arena operations. and cash calls are normal in business and are often used as a strategy to force small minorities to sell. Never said the team was profitable in 2008. Everyone knows it wasn't. We're in 2015.

keep up.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 7, 2015 11:38:26 AM

"Then....when talking about cash calls......i'm not talking about recent. I'm unaware of any cash calls in the past 2 years. back when he himself was a minority partner, there were several. shortly after, there were some. every business in the US had cash calls in 2008-09."

Post your sources.

It's a fact there have been some since he became majority partner.

"...cash calls are normal in business and are often used as a strategy to force small minorities to sell."

Explain to me how "cash calls" are used to "FORCE" (implies against their will) minority partners out?

Why have minority partners in the first place if you are going to "FORCE" them out?

You really think guys like McColl and Sabates would stand for that?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 7, 2015 9:28:12 PM

last 2 years does not equate to 2009-2011. i already said that. you really aren't good at reading. and you really don't understand how business works for a minority investor.

go buy 100 shares of coke and see how much power you have on their dividends and debt structure. and that's without there being a guy owning 80% of coke as an individual. that's what the hornets are. they are owned by 1 individual. minority partners are just along for the ride. if they can't hang with the cash calls, they can't hang. it's not an optional thing.

you have to pay membership dues to be a member.

Posted by: charlottean | Apr 9, 2015 11:53:57 AM

But that's not what you said...

You said Michael Jordan manipulated the accounting so all the losses domiciled in basketball operations were foist onto minority partners and all the profits (lol) were in arena operations and kept by him.

In the absence of losses there are no capital calls. Ypu have resolutely maintained the team is profitable. So, the scenario above must be accurate and Michael did it to "force" out minority partners.

You can be assured Felix and Hugh can make any and all capital calls should they choose to.

Do you really think a 100 share owner of KO is analogous to the postion guys like Hugh and Felix have with the Boobs? You're a bigger moron than I thought!

I see where Minny's butt buddy and current partner Nelly is doing himself and the franchise proud! LOL...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 15, 2015 11:09:53 AM

29 minutes in first 3 quarters vs. Raptors and Fumblerooski has 3 points and 3 rebounds -- ELITE BABY!!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 15, 2015 8:46:45 PM

John Wall play on...Shorty sits.

Portland plays on...Cho takes a vacation.

Wizards play on...Air Minny goes to Fla and plays golf.

Hahahaha...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 21, 2015 10:51:47 PM

Wow. Great points.

Posted by: ironman | Apr 25, 2015 10:40:16 AM

Everything we said came true. Fowler said both Clifford and Cho should be gone at this time next yr if they don't imorove things. Cliff takes ownership of the bad start. He sat Mkg and Hendo which was stupid.

Cho said Al had to lose weight. 25 pounds. That Kemba must shoot better. Cliff dogged Chos players brought in. He said he longed for Tolliver. Cdr and Gary?

This is a mess. Look at the playoffs and see how they share and move the ball. Smh.

Posted by: ironman | Apr 25, 2015 10:47:02 AM

I thought Rich Cho was GM of the Boobs? Why is Curtis Polk all of a sudden doing all the talking?

This quote pretty much destroys Polk's credibility right out of the chute: "I think first off Lance has been a great person to add to the team."

Hahahahaha....good one!

And then there was this on Shorty's (stupid) $48 million deal: "Well, we all think that Kemba is a fantastic person with that competitive fire you don’t see every day when you are meeting players coming out of college for the NBA."

Awesome! He's still a 5'10" two-guard who can't shoot and doesn't have PG skills.

This (joke of) a franchise has the gear selector squarely in reverse once again.

Midget Management...gotta love em.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 27, 2015 1:36:18 PM

Nets...owner bought team same year as Minny...just played 23rd playoff game in last 3 seasons.

Grizzlies...Minny afraid to play their new owner a game of 1-on-1 for $1 million...too bad, Minny probably could have gotten a business tip or two.

Celtics...went into tank mode long after Boobs...already lapped the Boobs.

Bucks...don't have anything going for them, lose #1 pick for season...giving the Bulls all they can handle and lapping the Boobs.

The Boobs...4 years into The Plan, 4 playoff games, all losses...and headed back down.

LOL...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 27, 2015 10:50:31 PM

Yeah.. Good points . Why is Polk out front ? Why is a financial officer deeply involved in bc operations ? So they're satisfied w Kembs as the floor general ? Lol. He's last in getting layups for teamates as a starting point gd. Last in starting gds in assists at The rim. 318 in true shooting percentage. 24 th in pt gds overall. We are last in assisted goals bc of Al n Kembas forcing shits and useage. ALS ts% is 278. He's the worst defensive c in the NBA.

Get a two way c to pair w Biz. Koufos. Get a wing sharp shooter in back up that's tall. Get rid of Lance. Get a big strong pt gd in the draft who dimes defends and hits arc ball. Send Kemba to the bench . Redo Hendo quickly. Make him combo gd .

Posted by: ironman | Apr 28, 2015 8:29:27 AM

ironman, something is up....there's trouble in Boobland. Won't be surprised to see another reorganiztion of The Midgets sometime soon. For Polk to take the lead on talking about individual players is just way out of the norm.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | Apr 29, 2015 11:22:36 AM

Fowler said this is the last yr for Clifford and Cho. Fans are killing both. Cho distanced himself about the Lance pick. Mj had to be furious when he read it. Polk is saying stuff like coaches better go and check on players to make sure they're in shape in the summer and the players better come in shape in camp. This is not the role of a Cpa.

Polk also made it first that you should not have slowed it down when Al was out. They're slamming Cliffs inexperience.and they should. If he still goes w Al as the focus,he's done. Polk questioned why no third person was featured. They know Hendo can score bc he averaged 19 while doubled after The break w Dunlap.

Both are gone mid break.

Posted by: ironman | May 1, 2015 10:40:45 AM

And to think some of you morons thought Shorty was even in the same galaxy as The Great Chris Paul....

....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 2, 2015 10:58:41 PM

Funny headline saying "Hornets want to own a D-league franchise"...

...they already do!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 3, 2015 12:07:51 PM

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