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May 04, 2015

A neat little story about Stephen Curry and good parenting

            One of the things Davidson’s Bob McKillop cherishes about having coached Stephen Curry has nothing to do with shooting, dribbling or passing.

            It’s about competing and still conducting yourself as a gentleman.

            “He always does a great job of balancing confidence with humility,” McKillop said Monday after the NBA named Curry its Most Valuable Player for the 2014-15 season.

            McKillop knows where that came from; Stephen’s parents, Dell and Sonya, wouldn’t tolerate their kids being arrogant showboats.

            “My wife being an athlete – she was recruited to play basketball (as well as volleyball) -- we both told him it’s really important not to get caught up in all of that ‘Showtime’ stuff,” Dell Curry said in a phone interview Monday.

“One time he got caught in the air and he had to spin and do this flip shot. He looked at us as it went in with this ‘Aw-oh’ look.

“We told him he made best of the situation. But we wanted to make sure he was a student of the game and not a show-off.”

            That’s just how the Currys conducted themselves as parents at Davidson games. Parents can become burdens to coaches, grousing about their kids’ playing time, etc. McKillop said the Currys were so much the other extreme that coaches had to solicit feedback from Dell, a 16-season NBA shooting guard.

“Dell never said anything to me about how to coach Steph,” McKillop recalled. “Finally we brought Dell into our offices to see what NBA plays he thought would work best to get Steph free against double- and triple-teams.”

Posted by Observer Sports on May 4, 2015 at 07:50 PM | Permalink

Comments

What a neat little story, thanks.

Now how about some analysis of Polk usurping Cho's media responsibilities as GM?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 6, 2015 9:49:16 AM

How long you guys gunna run the Stef stuff? Does he play here? Isn't this the same guy who has a coach that knows both sides of the ball? And has out in an offense that befits more than two players? Uptempo? Why don't you start by telling us how many things Kerr does that Cliffird doesn't ?

How about how overrated Klay is and that when they lose, he's always the guy shut down ? That you, Clifford, Cho etc run this three ball spread for Al stuff in the ground. How the three ball failed the Warriors last night and is the cause for most losses in the playoffs bc the arc is easily sealed off.

Stef got trapped and doubled hard. Clifford never does this to the star to assure they become a passer. Stef must do what ALS biggest sin is: to pass immediately to a TEAMATE cutting to the basket,which players defender has doubled !!!!!!! There also must be a center at the foul line to initiate the offense which is toooo ball dominant by Stef. Stef must give n go.Run a two man game and the pick n roll down the middle!!!!


I could go on and on like you should Rick. Talk some bb.

Look at Polks comments. He implicitly blasts Clifford or Cho in each one. Cho tried to distance himself from the Lance signing by his staff leaking they had nothing to do w it. Clifford comes out and says he did. This leak is unsettling w Mj as it should be. Crawford days both Clifford and Cho are home after this yr if it's not a success.

It won't be if you feature Al. I pray he does. Polk rightfully said why was no third option developed ESP when Al was out ? And why did they not run or was the paint packed w Al out? That there is no plan .

All Gms except Cho have a ten yr plan or at least 5 yr. cho can't plan. Bc he couldn't talk bb, he got fired at Portland. See the comments defending the dismissal by Miller. Tell us Rick when has Cho talked by here ? Ever? It's bc he doesn't know bb. He knows contracts. He knows the CAP. NO GM KNOWING BB WOULD HAVE DRAFTed KEMBA TO BE THE FLoor GENERAL.

No Gm that understood bb would allow Mo to be benched being replaced by Kemba trying to get to the playoffs. Not a one. It was the stupidest move ever.

Posted by: ironman | May 6, 2015 8:03:14 PM

Cavs vs Clippers .. Clippers win.

Posted by: ironman | May 6, 2015 8:04:44 PM

Hey Bonnell how about some reporting on the Boobs firing Scott Howard? Sounds like he was one of the few legitimate NBA folks working inside the Boobsylum.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 10, 2015 3:00:25 PM

How about Zach Lowe saying Kemba for Ty? Do you work here or not? Jeez. Other best writers are hot and heavy right now in coverage, it's like a funeral home here on a day w no wake in session. How about discussion of potential picks? How about Scalerbrini being a potential asst coach? How about Cody shooting corner threes to compliment Al as if we need more of complimenting him? Instead of more of developing Cody, Mkg or Hendo as legit equal options?

Posted by: ironman | May 12, 2015 1:38:18 PM

Nobody cares. There's trouble in Boobland... Air Minny should do everyone a favor and sell the team.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 12, 2015 4:26:13 PM

Nobody cares. There's trouble in Boobland... Air Minny should do everyone a favor and sell the team.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 12, 2015 4:26:13 PM

Watching these teams that are still playing I find it striking as to how faaaaar ahead of the Boobs they are... Hopeless situation.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 13, 2015 5:03:08 PM

Cliff says not to run. ....all the layoff teams run...cliff uses two dominant scorers ... All the playoff teams spread the wealth...cliff allows Al to hold and dominate The ball.. All playoff teams pass quickly out the double hitting the open man at the arc or cutting. This happens all game and every play.

Cliff refuses to crash the boards. All playoff teams send two to crash test back.

Cliff will be fired by Dec w first bad 15 game won loss record. Private meetings are taking place reaching out to some prospects. Cho knows he's next and is trying to save himself. Kemba is good as gone finally. Possibly Ty.

Cho knows Al is garbage which is why he put in the weight mandate . But it's not enough. Al had shooters in Utah and never got out the first round and most yrs didn't get there. Spreading at Pf, sf , sg gets you three weak one way players who can only shoot. Al wouldn't pass to them anyway.

Too many good coaches available now.

Posted by: ironman | May 14, 2015 8:05:23 AM

Why would Air Minny, Yes Co. & Cho want to start up a D-League team?

They don't have the intellectual horsepower to manage what's already on their plate much less the demands and intricacies required to start up a new venture at a remote location.

This will only serve to further ensure BoobCo. flounders in perpetuity as long as Minny is at the wheel...

LOL.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 14, 2015 10:50:57 AM

This stuff is funny. 2 dudes can even find this garbage to comment on. My first and last. #wasteoftime

Might want to catch up to social media oldsters. Maybe not. People might actually see your comments. Lmao.

Posted by: Tom | May 16, 2015 10:57:20 AM

Cho reads it . So does Cliff. Those are the only two I want to read. If you don't think they do not follow Bonell and Fowler, reading the supporting comments, you're a fool.

Posted by: ironman | May 17, 2015 8:59:49 AM

Tom, want to rebut any of the points us "oldsters" are making? Betcha can't...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 18, 2015 9:57:36 AM

Well they have defiantly buried Bonnell's blog in the new format. Can't imagine it received much traffic, but it will be close to zero now.

Personally I don't see much to debate anyone on here. Same old same old. However I am in favor of a D league team. Every team will have one in the near future.

Posted by: Real | May 19, 2015 9:08:25 AM

there is a very obvious kemba + al to the knicks for #4 and calderon if they want to move his contract. throw in hairston if they want him.

they have the cap room and the appetite to move that pick. we would get whoever is left between russell or mudaiy (both might be there at 4). huge upgrade over kemba either way. and gets them out from under that god awful extension they gave him. could you imagine if the braves gave uggla and upton those contracts AFTER they started hitting below .200? that's what kemba's extension is essentially.


either one of those guys/calderon or roberts or daniels + lance/henderson + mkg/taylor, and cody/biz/marvin/vonleh makes the playoffs next year with a ton of potential and youth to grow into.

[/dream]

they'll pick 9th and take booker who will hardly play because we're loaded with wings who are just good enough to command playing time over a rookie and a coach who has no idea what he's doing. he'll play even less than vonleh did last year (negative minutes?) and we will eventually see him winning rings elsewhere.

[/realistic prediction]

[[/being a hornets fan]]

Posted by: charlottean | May 19, 2015 10:01:41 PM

Anyone want to make renewed predictions about how long it will be until the Boobs win a playoff series?

Sure wish Air Minny had taken me up on that ticket bet way back!!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 22, 2015 2:16:03 PM

Are the centers in the final four playing way more like Al or Biz? Centers are up top sealing the arc. Screening instead of slipping. Blocking shots. Offensive boarding. Moving the ball around the horn quickly instead of holding it. Pick n roll lobs. Serious rim protection. Of the duties I just outlined tell us which one Al does? Oh I forgot moving out of the post to the low block extended so wings and guards can drive.

Posted by: ironman | May 24, 2015 7:25:29 AM

Are the centers in the final four playing way more like Al or Biz? Centers are up top sealing the arc. Screening instead of slipping. Blocking shots. Offensive boarding. Moving the ball around the horn quickly instead of holding it. Pick n roll lobs. Serious rim protection. Of the duties I just outlined tell us which one Al does? Oh I forgot moving out of the post to the low block extended so wings and guards can drive.

Posted by: ironman | May 24, 2015 7:25:30 AM

The hornets will never win a playoff series until both Al and Kemba are gone. Al : no d. No help d. No perimeter d. No rim protection. Holds the ball and only averages 16 points a game. This is old school outdated bb.

Kemba. Lol. Worst pt gd at getting layups fir teamates that starts. Lowest starting point gd in assists at the rim . Worst starting pt gd in
East in shooting arc balls. Less than 40% career fg shooter. Which is pitiful. 5 assists a game. Lol.

Posted by: ironman | May 24, 2015 8:59:35 PM

Al could be gone soon but Minny, Yes Co. & Cho seem to believe Kemba is a franchise player around whom the team should be built. Seems to me Kemba is here for the long run.

I heard Dunlap on a radio interview the other day and it was perfectly clear The Midgets had told him in no uncertain terms he was not to speak about who the team should draft on 6/25.

He specifically said "that's above my pay grade" and then went about dodging questions about specific players and team needs.

Until Air Minimum sells the Boobs will struggle.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 25, 2015 7:30:32 PM

"• The Hornets have let go three veteran scouts as part of a staff shake-up, according to several league sources."

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/behind-the-scenes-of-the-nba-draft-lottery/

Bonnell why aren't you writing about stuff like this?

Only weeks before the draft The Midgets are blowing out the scouting department and not a peep out of you about it?

It's almost like you don't even cover the team. Is there a gag order in place that prevents you from writing about the comedy show playing daily within the walls of The Boobsylum?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 27, 2015 12:51:29 PM

Wow. This is like a police state .,. Smh

Posted by: ironman | May 27, 2015 1:41:31 PM

Phil uses the triangle. Kemba is useless bc he can't shoot threes nor defend which the point gd must do. If no triangle, lol. He's not the finisher , facilitator , defender nor shooter Phil would allow. Worst in starting point gds making layups. Worst in assists at the rim. Horrific arc ball and mid range guy too. Average defender at best. That's got hell no by
Phil in either situation. Melo would not stand for another inefficient chucker in the lineup besides him.

Posted by: ironman | May 27, 2015 1:46:56 PM

If Cho says Kemba must improve his arc shooting and from the field, which he can't, he's gone. There's too many rumors out there and cliff and
Cho now know Kemba's failings are tied to them. What were the two biggest issues? ALS d and KEMBAS shooting. Cho addressed both in exit.

Posted by: ironman | May 27, 2015 1:50:21 PM

Was there a PG in the playoffs this year that Shorty was even level with much less better than?

I'd take Dellavedova over Shorty all day every day.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 27, 2015 1:52:52 PM

610 radio having a We Support Coach Cliff Week.

Yesterday Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo SPorts was on singing his praises and characterizing him as elite...

...today Jeff Van Gundy doing the same and suggesting Coach Cliff should have been NBA Coach of Year in 2013/2014.

The Midgets sure gonna look foolish if Air Minny brings in coach #7 of his tenure anytime soon.

The collective IQ of "executive management" at the Boobsylum has to be the lowest in the NBA by a wide margin...LOL.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 27, 2015 4:49:45 PM

Went back and listened to the Woja interview again and he said "coaches around the league are watching what the Hornets do with him because he's earned the respect of coaches all around the league"...

...and further went on to say "it's on the organization to get him better talent" and implied that if The Midgets screw Coach Cliff over they other coaches would think twice about joining the organization.

Woja nailed it.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 27, 2015 5:28:45 PM

your hero is not elite. he gets the best out of nobody and prefers the less talented veterans over the guys that actually win ball games.

even kemba played his best ball under dunlap. i would take dellevadova and about 60 other guys over kemba in a heartbeat. just like i would take monty williams, mike d'antoni, mark price, alvin gentry, ettore messina, thibbs, skiles, del negro, hoiberg, and about 60 other guys over clifford.

dude deserved coach of the year for a mediocre 7 seed in a tankfest???


everybody in the media thinks al and kemba are so great and that they need help around them. none of them report on how well the team played without them (specifically al). nobody covered that. clifford gets held up on a pedastal because of how bad the team's record was during the rebuilding years. he got a bunch of veterans and upgrades and got credit for the "improvement" that had nothing to do with coaching and wasn't real improvement. it was a better record with an older roster.

the guy proved he can't coach these last 2 years. there's no need to wait longer if there are upgrades available. you don't sit a guy for 47 minutes and 40 seconds and then put him in at the end of the game to allow him to get fouled and have to shoot free throws. in a critical game.

the guy is a good assistant coach. he has a plethora of out of bounds plays to run. he's mastered that pretty well. everything else? gabbage.

Posted by: charlottean | May 28, 2015 10:35:21 AM

Why do you think the opinion of a guy like Woja is diametrically opposed to yours on Coach Cliff? What does Woja have to gain by making such comments? Did you hear the interview?

Personally I don't care if they fire Coach Cliff...will serve to further illustrate that Minny, Yes Co. & Cho can't manage their way out of a paper bag.

"dude deserved coach of the year for a mediocre 7 seed in a tankfest???"

Win 43 games with Josh McRoberts as 2nd best player on team -- Coach of Year!!

I wish Bonnell would get off his butt and simultaneously start reporting on the Boobs and stop bashing the NHL. Get busy Bonnell, earn your pay and the respect of the fine citizens of pudunk, err, Charlotte.

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 28, 2015 11:05:31 AM

wojo doesn't cover the hornets. he hasn't seen the last 2 years of basketball that I have. he RUNS the rumor mill, not basketball expertise.


now you're downplaying mcroberts. make your mind up is he mcgod or is garbage? he wasn't the 2nd best player in any regard. he was a valuable role player. 43 wins isn't an accomplishment. boston won 40 this year while trying to tank. with avery bradley/tyler zeller/jared sullinger as their leaders.

milwaukee went 41-41 with the same team as last year that got them the 2nd pick in the draft. THAT is really improvement through coaching and player development. they didn't just sign a bunch of veterans to lean on. they leaned even more on knight/antennekounmpo/middleton(parker before he got hurt).


clifford is far from a good coach. he might be a great assistant coach, but at the head of the table? terrible.

how else can you explain him refusing to play mkg/cody/biz at the beginning of the year only to be basically forced to play them middle of the year and winning big time while doing so? then what happened when those guys got hurt?

how on earth can you justify that? you blast kemba, yet kemba's HIS GUY. that's the guy that got him the extension. meritocracy my ashe wood baseball bat. a meritocracy would have had roberts or ANY OTHER available veteran starting over the barely 39% shooting human shot clock violation.

there's too much evidence to the contrary. wojo just hasn't bothered to look at any of it because that's not what he does. he passes along things other people say to him.

Posted by: charlottean | May 28, 2015 11:59:01 AM

And Van Gundy? Supporting Coach Cliff just because they are buddies?

Al was the only guy on the team better than Josh...that's a fact.

Who is a known entity that you respect from a basketball analysis perspective? Can you produce any information from a reliable/known source that corroborates your thesis on Coach Cliff?

If the solutions were so simple and obvious why didn't The Midgets force Coach Cliff to put them into play?

Coach Cliff didn't draft Kemba, The Midgets did. Cliff did however find Josh for them and boy did he deliver bigtime!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 28, 2015 1:36:21 PM

hahaha "cliff did however find josh for them"

you just love making stuff up don't you. funny how I remember mcroberts playing under dunlap. you are simultaneously giving clifford credit for winning in spite of mcroberts being the "2nd best player" (not better than henderson, mkg, cody, but probably better than the rest) while at the same time putting him up on a pedastal for "finding" mcroberts who was traded for the year prior, started 19/26 after the trade and what do you know......even he put up slightly better numbers under dunlap than with clifford and al.

and you're that dumb to throw van gundy out there? they aren't just buddies. they worked together for like 10 years or some ish in new york and houston before he worked for his brother in orlanndo. no bias there.


i would go with zach lowe's opinion before most given his criticism of kemba and al but he doesn't watch all 82 or even close to it. he MIGHT have seen 2 hornets games this past year. that's the problem. you're going off of people who never watch the hornets. or its the coaches who always defend other coaches. guys like van gundy never say a negative word about ANY coach.


the argument for your hero has no leg to stand on. he plays kemba and al over others and caters to them, they get hurt and the team starts winning. the other guys get hurt, the team starts losing. the lineup numbers favor mkg/cody/biz HEAVILY. like not even close/landslide numbers. if it were not for al getting hurt, we would have been TERRIBLE last year. notice how thibbs loses key guys every year and still wins? notice how brooks lost guys every year and still managed to win?

you are telling me that clifford's success hinged entirely on mcroberts, yet somehow he's a great coach.

per 36, cody gave you more scoring, significantly more rebounding, half the assists and better shooting numbers although without quite the range (we'll see how that develops)....and cody did all of that with significantly better defensive numbers, significantly LESS touches and dribbles on offense.

did we really lose ANYTHING? assists went down from 21.7 per game to 20.2 per game.

with or without mcroberts we have been terrible on offense under clifford. our defensive numbers are skewed by slow pace. we were 2nd to last in fg% because clifford schemed towards bad shots and away from effective ones. he catered to al when everybody else on the roster would benefit from running more. which is why when al was out, the team thrived.

yet the second biz got hurt, it was right back to al ball and the losses came back as well (14-23 down the stretch but that includes the few at the end where white flag was waived).

you could win 50 games next year with a good coach, mkg/cody/biz and any reasonable backcourt. brandon knight was sitting there available. he probably still is. you could probably get knight for kemba straight up in sign & trade.

scott brooks is available. thibbs is available. monty williams. messina. d'antoni. the list goes on.


i would put $50k on clifford never coaching a 50 win team without some sort of weird lebron/anthony davis situation falling into his lap like mike brown did. clifford is on mike brown's level of stupidity. and van gundy would never criticize mike brown either.

Posted by: charlottean | May 28, 2015 2:41:10 PM

You're right....I mixed up Josh with CDR...it was CDR that Coach Cliff pulled out of a hat for The Midgets and boy did CDR deliver!!

As for Josh, you know your boy Dunlap loved him and said he wanted Josh back...

"you are telling me that clifford's success hinged entirely on mcroberts, yet somehow he's a great coach."

Of course not. Even though Dunlap loved him we all know McRoberts sucks and when a guy that bad is the 2nd best player on the team and said team wins 43 -- Coach of the Year!


So there isn't a single credible & known NBA analyst that you can cite that backs up your thesis on Coach Cliff? Not one?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 28, 2015 3:22:26 PM

so if mcroberts sucked. and was replaced with marvin williams. and noah vonleh. how come coach couldn't cut it this year?


there isn't a credible nba analyst who cares. nobody watches the hornets. how many national tv spots? playoff games?

if the guy could coach, he would have been fine this year. he clearly can't. injuries saved him from massive embarrassment. and that's the only reason why the entire country isn't speculating that he'll lose his job. had al never gotten hurt and we never gone 12-3 on that stretch......what would it look like for cliff then?


if kemba is so bad howcome coach didn't pull him? how come coach advocated for his extension? how come coach wasn't anywhere near as hard on kemba as he has been with biz/mkg/cody/vonleh/etc. ???

your hero is gabbage. unpopular opinions aren't wrong by default. terrible people and incredibly dumb and unqualified people win elections all the time.


if jordan is the biggest idiot in the world to you and he and cho and higgins got together and decided to fire dunlap and hire clifford........what does that say about clifford if he was their guy?

Posted by: charlottean | May 28, 2015 3:44:53 PM

Simply illustrates how bad Marvin and Noah really are.

So you can't cite a single credible NBA source/analyst that is negative on Coach Cliff? As expected...

Oh you don't have to tell me about unpopular opinions not being wrong! But I can cite source after source that say His Minimumness is a laughable NBA owner/exec...heck, he's the W.O.A.T!!

"Jordan hasn't just failed as an exec, he's the greatest failure ever": http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/18932942/jordan-hasnt-just-failed-as-an-exec-hes-the-greatest-failure-ever

Let's be honest, Coach Cliff isn't "their guy"...he was simply the cheapest hire they could make at the time that they thought would be considered credible by the masses...

...even folks like you!

This is what you said when the Coach Cliff hiring came to light:

"that could have been a LOT worse. and thankfully didn't drag on too long into the draft process."

Posted by: charlottean | May 27, 2013 6:51:44 PM

And then you said:

"i'm glad they hired clifford instead of snyder or sampson. there were some horrible choices and I think this one was solid especially noting the inclusion of patrick ewing. that is downright awesome."

Posted by: charlottean | May 28, 2013 3:47:56 PM


Yep you used words like "glad" and "solid" and "awesome"...

...did your crystal ball fail you?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 28, 2015 5:10:37 PM

So the Hornets have a great coach? Awesome!!!! Glad to know they have the right guy in place. One less thing to worry about. Let's have him coach Frank the Tank!

Posted by: Blaine | May 28, 2015 5:13:24 PM

Trying to glue that crystal ball back together?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 29, 2015 7:07:53 AM

mr. tallest midget theory just quoted me saying "at least it wasn't ewing" as if it was a glowing endorsement.

hilarious dude. you aren't going to find a nationally known source to talk negatively about clifford because there aren't any that care. if he gets fired, nobody is going to go nuts like it was a terrible move except his friends.

and you can dig back through and find me talking about what a terrible coach he was EARLY in year 1 and all last summer, too. I didn't jump off the bandwagon that I never got on. Dunlap was the better coach and they made a huge mistake being impatient and not letting him build a culture here. he was the right guy for guys like kemba and mkg and biz (and cody). he just wasn't the right guy for lazy veterans or sensitive little Bs like the media.


the only reason they shouldn't make a coaching change now is because they've been making far too many coaching changes. but if they can get a LEGIT coach? they need to do it. at all cost. clifford isn't that.

cody outperformed mcroberts with less usage.....how can you continue to argue that mcroberts was the major subtraction that caused the team to lose 10 more games this season than last?

you are hinging ALL of clifford's accomplishments on josh mcroberts. that's about as dumb as a guatemalan©john oliver.

Posted by: charlottean | May 29, 2015 7:09:24 PM

"mr. tallest midget theory just quoted me saying "at least it wasn't ewing" as if it was a glowing endorsement."

You wrote: "...this one was solid especially noting the inclusion of patrick ewing."

Want to take a mulligan? Rub that broken crystal ball a little and come back to us again blowhard ;)


"how can you continue to argue that mcroberts was the major subtraction that caused the team to lose 10 more games this season than last?"

Because they lost 10 more...

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 31, 2015 4:58:49 PM

sorry.....should have said...."at least it wasn't snyder or sampson" same effect. still your favorite kind of compliment that you are riding on.

so again.....you are saying clifford's ability to coach hinges entirely on having josh mcroberts.

Posted by: charlottean | May 31, 2015 7:11:40 PM

You said: "i'm glad they hired clifford..."

That's not the case anymore?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 31, 2015 7:16:22 PM

"...as opposed to snyder or sampson or whoever"

they could have done worse. Not once was I glad they fired dunlap. And almost immediately after the season started, I saw what kind of brain we were working with. Check the posts. It was eeeeeeearly in the season that I was off the bandwagon. Once al got healthy and cody/biz/mkg were all being under utilized and under developed and on top of that we weren't winning.....i was out. Can't judge a guys ability to do something until you've seen him try. He tried. He's terrible. Said so then, I'll say it now. The guy might be a good assistant coach. he's not a smart head coach. very much akin to ron rivera in that regard. They should have never fired john fox (dunlap not in the same realm as fox, but still should have been given the opportunity to do the job he was hired to do).

The guy is your hero. And you think your hero's ability to coach hinges entirely on a mid level role player being present (and arguably overpaid). Your hero digressed in a major way with the same core players. It just proved he was beating tanking teams the year before and he had a ton of lucky bounces go his way in close games.


prediction: clifford ever gets another head coaching job after this one? clifford ever coaches a team to 50 wins without a lebron type mike brown situation like mentioned above? is your hero pulling either off? Is your hero coaching this years team to the playoffs?

even better......does ANYBODY get better this year under the coach? besides the guys that get better in spite of him, does ANYBODY get better because of him?

how smart is the guy going to look when biz has a monster year in another uniform? mkg? cody? vonleh?

10 years from now people are going to look at last year's roster and think: "that guy couldn't win with that much talent?" and "why on earth did he favor kemba and al so much"

the guy can't coach and I've been saying it for about a year and a half. can't make up the facts fella.

Posted by: charlottean | May 31, 2015 8:20:36 PM

Wow, you really hate Coach Cliff don't you?

"how smart is the guy going to look when biz has a monster year in another uniform?"

Coach Cliff has zero control over player personnel but it's really irrelevant because Biz will never start for a legitimate NBA team.

"10 years from now people are going to look at last year's roster and think: "that guy couldn't win with that much talent?""

No they're not.

14 times already you said you can't produce info from any NBA analyst of note to support you anti-Cliff stance and the reason you say you can't is because "there aren't any that care." If they don't care now they certainly won't 10 years from now!

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 31, 2015 9:21:45 PM

Question for you...

...when Air Minny gives Coach Cliff a contract extension are you going to jump off the Boobwagon?

Posted by: NASTAR99 | May 31, 2015 9:26:34 PM

people will care about them, not this team. they'll be elsewhere more than likely. highly unlikely they play the primes of their careers here and people WILL wonder "what if" about keeping this group together. kind of like how people will look back at cleveland like "they gave up wiggins and bennett for love" if love bolts this summer or next and they don't get a ring out of it. even if they do, it'll hurt when wiggins is killer 4 years from now.

i hate dumb people. cliff falls into that category. you clearly do too. you can't justify the guys poor performance and poor rotation decisions. you can't justify the ridiculous strategy of stubbornly going away from what was working in January. or the ridiculous in game strategy with the season on the line to put jeff taylor in for the last 20 seconds or whatever it was when he hadn't played all game.


and if biz doesn't have a successful nba career in the vein of theo ratliff/mutumbo/deandre jordan/ben wallace......clifford's refusal to play him and develop him further will have a lot to do with it. it won't be because he goes somewhere and gets an opportunity and fails. the guy does 3 things.......rebounds at an elite rate, defends at an elite level, and finishes on offense at an elite rate. championship teams use guys like that. lottery bound teams use guys like al.

biyombo very well might get treated like morrison and labeled a bust, but i honestly doubt it. he put up too good of numbers as a starter. i'll find you a negative comment about clifford when you find a negative comment about biyombo from a credible source from this season when he was starting. popovich raved about him.

i wouldn't be surprised if both biz and ajinca are starters next year. i would be surprised if it were for the hornets.


you want an indication of national media feelings toward clifford? they aren't writing anything positive, either. no votes for coach of the year this year. and you hang your hat on the guy being "in the running" for coach of the year last year......dude was 4th.

if he had actually developed the young guys on the roster (which was his job), he probably would have won it this year. it's not his fault he got hired. he never should have been hired. doesn't change the fact that he's incapable of doing the job. far more capable individuals available.


if he gets an extension, i won't be surprised. kemba not only got one but he got severely overpaid. he didn't even remotely deserve one and he backed that up all year this year (sans that 5 game stretch with al out where he was iversonesque). this franchise does dumb things, won't surprise me. I want off the bandwagon. I want a smartly run franchise to be my hometeam. But I'm a homer. and my hometeam is dumb.


seriously......seth curry > josh mcroberts > kemba > al > gana diop. brown > dunlap > silas > bickerstaff > clifford > vincent.

Posted by: charlottean | May 31, 2015 11:30:48 PM

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