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April 28, 2007

Johnson fills DE need. Next up: S, PR

  Getting defensive end Charles Johnson in the third round filled one of the biggest remaining needs. Johnson can fit into the rotation right away behind Julius Peppers and Mike Rucker and could be the eventual replacement for Rucker in the starting lineup. Johnson's not a premeir pass rusher, but he can play the run well. With Rucker coming back from knee surgery, Johnson and second-year pro Stanley McClover might have to play a lot early next season.

   The Panthers still have two major needs to address Sunday: Safety and punt returner. They should be able to get a decent punt returner on the second day, but it's looking more and more like they're going to have to look for safety help in what's left of free agency. There's not much left out there and they may have to hope that a decent safety is released elsewhere.

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Comments

Anthony Waters just went off the board MUCH earlier than I expected...96 to SD. Maybe no true MLB prospect this year.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Apr 28, 2007 11:09:39 PM

I'm really disappointed in what they have done. Sure, they have fine list of talent, but none that will be on the field come Sept. With run on the safeties prior to their #25 pick, it no lonhger looked like a good decision. They needed a S, MLB and TE on the first day and instead got a OLB, WR, C and DE. I'm really scratching my head on this one.

Posted by: Jack | Apr 29, 2007 1:42:40 AM

Beason will more than likely start from Day 1 at WLB, and will step in at MLB as soon as Morgan gets hurt. Jarrett will make an immediate impact on 3rd downs in 3WR sets, and Kalil may well start at either C or RG. Knowing how much we rotate DEs, Johnson will get plenty of reps as he takes the rush down side of Al Wallace's snaps while McClover takes the pass rush situations. There are still safeties who can start for us (Michael Johnson, Josh Gattis), and though I don't think we NEED a tight end, there are those that can start there as well (Ben Patrick, Martrez Milner, Kevin Boss, Clark Harris Matt Herian). If you don't think the staff plans on having these guys in the lineup, why would they have picked them?

Posted by: Michael Procton | Apr 29, 2007 1:50:44 AM

To tell the truth, I found this years draft to be empty of prominent and over the top players, at all positions. Three players were all the talk and with The number one choice going to have to go through growing pains for Oakland and the number two will step right in and get 1200 yards his first year, I believe that Brady might just be the most active his rookie year. My biggest worry was Atlanta getting landry at the start and my wonderment was with so many second round choices, why we never moved up to take a second first rounder at safety

Posted by: terry byers | Apr 29, 2007 2:55:28 AM

Well At first I was scracting my head when the panthers opted not to draft Nelson. saying here!! WE GO AGAIN! MARTY HURNY HAS TO BE (next to Lions GM) one of the worst drafting..idiots in the league. I mean...I understand the jarret thing I do....but the LB could have came later...as could that G. Why not get the Tackle from Mich St. who would start there for the next 10 years and then in the 2nd round and 3rd...why did they not..draft a safty...Aaron Rouse!! was on the board in front of their faces TWICE!! I mean what the h#%%.....Seesm to me the pantthers are content with or think they can win with PRactice team players playing safty but they saw where trying to get away with bum safties got us last year..and they are going to do it...again..I give this Draft Grade on the first day a "C" because While we got some solid players name one that is Guranteed to start??? NOT ONE!! How do you Repeatidly draft players in the 1st and 2nd rounds of your draft that ARE NOT GOING TO START?? IDIOTS! Well..if panthers can get 2 good safties..and a return man on day two all will be well...if not....Fox/Hurney may have just filled out their resignation

Posted by: Cheven | Apr 29, 2007 3:37:06 AM

Beason could start from day 1 @ WLB
Jarret will be our #3 reciever
Kalil will start at center and push Hartwig to guard or tackle.
Johnson will become Ruckers replacement

Posted by: panthersrule | Apr 29, 2007 6:55:20 AM

For everyone that continues to bash what the panthers have done in the draft, name 10 starters from the colts that were round 1 or 2 picks? You can't because reality is most of your performers in this league come from the later rounds (i.e. 3rd and higher) Marvin Harrison is one of the top receivers in this league and was taken some where between 5th and 7th. There is nothing wrong with the players we drafted. Beason fills the #1 need we have. Everyone talks about safety, but if the safety is making all the plays, then we have bigger problems than we thought. Dwayne Jarrett can't be too bad, you don't get 41 TD's in 3 years at the top rated program in the country if your a bad player. We need depth at O-line. Everyone talks about already having 4 centers, but Hangartner and Montegomery were drafted as guards along with Wharton. So let's just stop playing armchair QB and leave this stuff to the professionals. It's obvious we don't know what we are talking about. We were all screaming for Weinke at QB and see where that got us!!!!!!!

Posted by: Truepantherfan | Apr 29, 2007 9:10:40 AM

Wow---some of you cats are so pessimistic!!! Give it a chance to work before you start whining and crying, for goodness sake. What is it? You're just automatically so much more knowledgeable as a "spectator/fanatic" than the team scouts, coaches, GM and other "Carolina Panther Professionals" are? Nonesense!!! Chill out for a while and judge them on opening day! Afterall, their "our" team! Our "ONLY" NFL team! Ever heard the comment, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? Well sure you have and a lot of the team pieces were 'broken' (injured) early last season. Now those pieces are repaired (have been fixed) SO JUST MAYBE, it ain't broke now? JUST MAYBE...we can go on that Super Bowl run this year...remember that run that so many predicted last year when everyone was still healthy? Way to go Panthers! Let's do it!!

Posted by: Pantheroptimist | Apr 29, 2007 9:18:21 AM

Um, you might want to go check out what the Colts have done in the first round again. First off, Marvin Harrison was taken in the first round, and here are the names of some players who were taken in the first two rounds that now start for the Colts: Harrison, Tarik Glenn, Peyton Manning, Edgerin James, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Dallas Clark, and Bob Sanders. Is it just me or is that a list chaulked full of pro bowlers. So before you start defending the Panthers draft by throwing around stats, you might want to check them.

Posted by: Nick | Apr 29, 2007 9:24:51 AM

You guys that are complaing about the Panthers draft are FOOLS! I think the Panthers did a great job yesterday. They traded back and got the guy they wanted. Beason is a very versatile LB who will start from day 1. Jarrett may end being the 2nd best reciever from this draft. Kalil will be a Pro Bowl caliber center who will also start. Hartwig will now be our RG which is an upgrade over Mathis. Charles Johnson is Ruckers heir apparent as well. I thought Charles Johnson would go in the 2nd round. We will get a decent Safety or 2 in the next couple of rounds. If Ben Patrick is there at TE we might take him in the 4th. Also keep your eye out for John Wendling who would be a great pickup at Safety. So Panthers fans quit whining. I think they did a great job yesterday.

Posted by: Eric | Apr 29, 2007 10:16:21 AM

Bottomline, Beason isn't a need unless you let Chris Draft walk. Keep Draft then you could've taken Anthony Spencer at DE, the guy Kiper keeps saying is rook of the year material.

Then in the 3rd you can take Aaron Rouse (VT) for some safety help.

Hey, either Marty's got a plan we don't know about or this team is headed for a 6-10, 7-9 type season.

Posted by: JAT | Apr 29, 2007 11:43:36 AM

Well it looks like they took the KR in the 4 round Ryne Robinson (WR) Miami (OH). Not that bad of a pick. Here are his return numbers, 2003, 38 punts for 654 yards (17.2 average) and three touchdowns. 2004, 39 punts for 547 yards (14 average) and two touchdowns, and eight kickoffs for 135 yards (16.9 average). 2005, 26 punt returns for 301 yards (11.6 average) and one touchdown. 2006, 18 punts for 175 yards and a touchdown (9.7 average). Not that bad as a receiver also, so he could be an impact player down the road.

Posted by: Matt | Apr 29, 2007 12:22:05 PM

From Robinson's NFL.com draft profile: "He is one of the finest punt returners in the history of college football and he could make a very nice living on special teams at the next level." Sounds like we might have an answer there.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Apr 29, 2007 1:27:19 PM

There goes Gattis, again only a handful of picks before our next spot.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Apr 29, 2007 1:36:52 PM

Dante Rosario: TE/FB/H-Back...the next Kris Mangum?

Posted by: Michael Procton | Apr 29, 2007 1:51:32 PM

I've really had no issues with picks until Rosario. But I'm willing to bet their top safety picks at that point were gone, so a TE was natural. I admit, I flipped out on Ryne Robinson (another *&$#@% receiver?) until I saw he was a return man. But can he also cover kicks? We kinda sucked in that department too, last year. We had to let Draft walk. He wasn't a middle 'backer. He'll be an outside guy at St. Louis. If you want to play those games, let's go back to paying Morgan big over Witherspoon.

Posted by: John McNamara | Apr 29, 2007 2:04:35 PM

The Panther site is calling Rosario a FB. Interesting.

And Draft played fine in the middle, certainly better than Seward who got the initial shot. It was Draft who KOed Steve McNair in the what turned out to be the Panthers best win of the year.

Here's the problem -- if you let Draft go, then you are saying Morgan is fine. If Morgan is fine, then you don't draft LB ahead of S, where you ARE NOT fine.

Having said all that, Tim Shaw is a nice LB get in the 5th.

Posted by: JAT | Apr 29, 2007 2:27:40 PM

where is our safety picks......pick brandon mitchell or will gulley brandon sharp..we need a safety....the draft was ok....we will deal with what we have...

Posted by: Des | Apr 29, 2007 2:29:34 PM

Great draft! Relax - We will find a safety elsewhere.

Best "first day value" in a long time!

Posted by: jwamad | Apr 29, 2007 2:39:19 PM

PLEASE DRAFT GATTIS FROM WAKE FORREST!!! OUR DRAFT HAS BEEN GREAT SO FAR BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SAFETU AND GATTIS IS MY BOY FROM WAKE FORREST. Right down the road baby

Posted by: Rob | Apr 29, 2007 3:02:25 PM

Great draft. The only guy I do not know is Rosario. I think the 1st 5 picks will make an immediate impact game 1 and Shaw will be a big time special teamer (blocking and covering).

I am curious about the safety position, but I am sure the front office has a plan to add some players/depth there. They did mention acquiring multiple safeties in an interview. We'll see. Go Panthers!!!

Posted by: Will P | Apr 29, 2007 3:07:59 PM

I think if you let Draft go you are saying you can find a better replacement and/or a better value. At pick 25, you are looking at 5 years, $8 million to $10 million, based on last year's number. Draft got three years for over $4 million. Was he adequate -- yea. Better, in the long-term, than Beason or Shaw? Odds are, nope. Maybe Rosario can help out on special teams, but he sounds like more of a receiver than FB to me. And they were talking about getting more receiving help from the TE position:

Positives: Natural receiver who made the transition from fullback to tight end over the final two seasons of his career … Surprisingly athletic, Rosario can generate yards after the catch and is tough to bring down … Blessed with soft hands and quick change of direction to develop into a fine route-runner.

Negatives: Bit of a 'tweener' … Lacks the stoutness and power to hold up as a blocker at the point of attack and is more quick than fast as a receiver.

I'd rather see us grab secondary help, maybe Wendling, at that pick rather than Rosario.

Posted by: John McNamara | Apr 29, 2007 3:16:20 PM

Tkae the boy from Wake Forest - is he still avb. Works for me.

Posted by: jwamad | Apr 29, 2007 3:40:10 PM

I did some research on Tim Shaw, they say he is projected as a safety in the NFL b/c of his speed. He runs a 4.4.

Posted by: napoleon34 | Apr 29, 2007 6:09:41 PM

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