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May 01, 2007

Cap implications of cutting Johnson

   Let’s do a little more separating the facts from fiction on the finances of the Keyshawn Johnson situation.

   Here’s the deal: He was scheduled to count $3.25 million against the salary cap this year. Instead, the Panthers will have to absorb $3.75 million in outstanding pro-ration of his original bonus, but they’ll actually save cap room with this move. As part of a new rule this year, Johnson will be designated as a post-June 1 release. That will allow the Panthers to spread his cap hit over two years.

   He’ll count $1.25 million this year and $2.5 million against the 2008 cap.

Posted by Observer Sports on May 1, 2007 at 05:44 PM | Permalink

Comments

Why not take all of the hit this year? We're pretty well under the cap now. That would just make the team more cash strapped next year when we need to sign Smith and Peppers.

Posted by: John | May 1, 2007 5:58:22 PM

good. it was not a smart move, but it was a classy move. we could have let him go through training camp and cut him at cutdowns to tudor jarrett, which would have been a smart move, but if the panters brass knows what they plan, they use the man and that wouldn't be classy....and our organization is classy...period. we have an extra 2 mil to spend in free agency and plus the 750,000 we will save having kalil longsnap...we can sign a bigtime need.

Posted by: emmett8 | May 1, 2007 7:09:18 PM

The only sure handed receiver we had last year.. Smith had decent year but had drops and Johnson did also but was pretty solid. Who do we have that has proven to be solid? Cap Or No Cap. Carter, Colbert, Biddle. None of these draft picks mean Jack, ask Colbert!! He we are again as we were when Muhammad left! Never ending one step forward two back. You just got to be kidding. The only other solid receiver that we had, Veteran that new what was going on. Man I don't know don't know what too say! Cap doesn't mean Jack when we saw what happened in 05 NFC Championship, Shut Smith down and the rest is history. There is not a solid WR on our team that has proven too be solid(other than Smith--DUH), so don't try and feed some BS......

Posted by: bt | May 1, 2007 7:13:59 PM

bt typed my thoughts above perfectly. One step forward...two steps back. Fox and Hurney had better have an ace in their hand that us fans don't know about yet, if not then BRING IN THE CHIN!!! I want Bill Cowher heading the Cats in 08-09!!!!!!!

Posted by: Garron B | May 1, 2007 7:19:41 PM

Hurney, please have something up your sleeve! Tell me we're not right back where we were wishing there was a second option to throw to.

Posted by: Ron | May 1, 2007 7:38:33 PM

Jason Kyle's salary is actuall 950K, not 750. So there's another 200K. Not much, but as tight as we were with the cap, we are now in one of the best situations for signing somebody between now and the beginning of the season. And as for you people who think of Johnson as a "sure handed receiver" or better than Smith, check out these numbers:
Keyshawn: 128 times targeted, 70 catches (55%)
Smith: 139/83 (60%)
Get over yourselves. If you will never have good things to say about your team, get a new one to whine about.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 1, 2007 7:46:41 PM

And the cap implications of cutting Dan Morgan loose?

And keeping Chris Draft and drafting a safety in the first round?

I absolutely refuse to drink the Kool-Aid on the Hurney off-season moves. Assumptions have been made that either will -- or will not -- pan out.

Those assumptions are -- in order of importance:

1) A healthy Morgan
2) Two functioning NFL safeties
3) A 1200 yard rusher

Posted by: JAT | May 1, 2007 8:44:56 PM

You can /not/ blame the 05 NFC Championship on the fact that they were triple teaming Steve Smith. That had entirely to do with not running the ball. Foster had a broken ankle, Goings went out of the game in that one. We had no one running the ball. And that let Seattle to focus less on run defense, and more on pass defense. Which is why they COULD triple team Steve Smith. That scenario doesn't happen normally.

Also, Colbert's production going down could be explained by
a. the emergence of Steve Smith as a primary receiver. If he's your primary receiver, and he's open, which he usually is, then you're going to throw him the ball more.
b. the addition of Keyshawn Johnson. This inherently moved him down the depth chart, and knowing that the Henning offense did not usually use the 3 or 4 wide receiver sets because of the focus on the running game.
c. Emergence of Drew Carter as a fast receiver. When We do quick outs, we want someone to break free.

I'm no Colbert fan. Don't get me wrong. But his performance decline isn't entirely something he can control. Also, he DOES have his uses in blocking. That's where his rock hard hands come in handy.

Also, enough of this talk about "we need someone to take the double teams off steve smith" If they're doubling Steve Smith, then someone else is going to be single covered. You just gotta get these young guys into the mix early.

Posted by: Monk | May 1, 2007 10:17:33 PM

What is the big deal? Key was ok, but after Sept06 he didn't have a single game where he gained 70 yards, and only 4 TDs all year. Its not like his vaunted blocking skills were a big boost to the running game either. While both of those are not totally his fault, you still have the same guy throwing to him and the same guys running, so how would he be any more productive this year? Plus, does anyone really think Key was going to be happy taking a lesser role to tutor anyone, even another USC guy (especially with Henning gone). Bottom line - did the Panthers get better by cutting him? Probably not. Did they get worse? I don't think so - I just don't see that he would make that big of a positive difference this year. Something else to remember - it's only the first of May. Picking up a possesion receiver after 6/1 cuts who has a cheaper price tag and less potential to go apes**t on the sideline with Henning gone shouldn't be that hard to do.

Posted by: tp | May 2, 2007 1:15:21 PM

Why did we sign him for 4 years anyway? At 33 or 34 you know your not going to get the full 4 years either due to injury or retirement or worse having to cut him and absorb 2 or 3 more years of salary for a player who is not active. Thats just another dumb move on Panthers Mgmt. Do us a favor and avoid signing veterans for long term contracts. Examples: Kris Jenkins, Keyshawn Johnson, Dan Morgan, Mike Rucker. Too much money given to these guys and too little of time recieved in return.

Posted by: Mark | May 2, 2007 5:45:32 PM

Surely you're not whining about the less than 1% of our cap space Keyshawn's signing bonus will take up over the next two years. I don't know if you're aware of this, but players don't sign to contracts unless they feel they'll get paid appropriately. If we didn't sign Johnson to that contract, he would have been on another team anyway, and we would have missed his invaluable contributions last year. Lord only knows what we would have done without him.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 2, 2007 9:35:28 PM

Bring back Ricky Proehl!!

Posted by: LeeL | May 3, 2007 8:32:42 AM

Procton
Nobody said that Johnson was better than Smith!! Can you read anything other numbers, how about reading the comment at least twice before you respond to a comment!!
When our coaching staff does not make glaring mistakes for our simple eyes to see then we will not as you say "whine" about it! When Fox/Hurney are still coaching next year I will be the first say I was wrong!,, But I don't think so.. Everybody has a right too express themselves negative or positive or even a kiss ass like yourself!! We are all Fans or we would not be wasting time doing this.

Posted by: bt | May 3, 2007 6:31:46 PM

Maybe I should apologize maybe that could have been interpreted wrong. I should have said Johnson as our number two receiver Surehanded #2 receiver. In no way was saying Johnson was as good or even close to smith.

Posted by: bt | May 3, 2007 6:45:40 PM

Matter of fact, your direct quote was that Keyshawn was "the only sure-handed receiver we had last year." I didn't accuse you of saying that he was better.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 4, 2007 12:28:14 AM

Can you say Dwayne Jarrett? Nobody heard of Marques Colston last year and he was in the running for rookie of the year as a D2 receiver out of college. Jarrett brings a resume with over 1,000 yards receiving and average of 84 ypg with 12TD's as a SR from one of the best teams in the Pac10. The dude is 6'5 and 220...he has a rep for going up and getting the ball which suits
the ragin cajuns gunslinger style. Quit your whining and act like a fan till you have a reason not to!

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