October 30, 2007
Everything but rubbing dirt in it ...
While it's questionable whether quarterback Vinny Testaverde will be ready to go Sunday, the trainers are throwing everything under the sun at his strained Achilles' tendon.
"Whirlpool, hot tub, ice, cold tub, ultrasound on there and whatever else they can think of," Testaverde said.
While most players got to enjoy family time or just relaxed today, Vinny was getting treatments, probably everything this side of voodoo rituals. Which made it impossible for him to go home to Long
Island for a family break. But -- if he can get healthy -- he seems to be the quarterback of choice for the coaching staff right now, and he's doing everything he can to recover quickly.
I think Testaverde is still a tossup for Sunday's game at Tennessee, but David Carr should be ready to go. He was pleased and surprised at the way his back felt after last week's game, and he'll likely be 100 percent by the weekend.
Third quarterback Matt Moore is fine, in case anyone's interested.
- Stan Olson
Posted by Observer Sports on October 30, 2007 at 04:43 PM | Permalink
VT in the mix,was the BEST Carolina look and played sense the season started,GO VINNY!
Posted by: #1 Fan | Oct 30, 2007 4:54:48 PM
I can tell you who is not interested - the coaching staff.
Posted by: Willy | Oct 30, 2007 4:59:10 PM
On the Panthers official website, a hilarious Freudian ad is there. Free Steve Smith jersey. We do need to free Steve Smith, don't we?
Posted by: Willy | Oct 30, 2007 5:03:03 PM
I downloaded a ringtone from the Panther site. It is the sound of a flatline EKG.
Posted by: Willy | Oct 30, 2007 5:18:24 PM
Is anyone interested in Matt Moore you ask? Of course we are, now give the man another shot!
Posted by: Troy | Oct 30, 2007 5:18:34 PM
I am sure Matt Moore will not get a shot. He is probably being disciplined because I bet the one long pass he completed was supposed to be a dump off to a running back for a two yard gain. The kid is clearly uncoachable.
Posted by: Willy | Oct 30, 2007 5:21:11 PM
SO let me guess, another year of old players playing to get checks and the coaching staff sucks as always...hmmmm why do we pay to see the games? If we want a team to root for, i guess the bobcats might be good in a few years....at least they want to invest in players who are in their prime.....why not just let smitty go to a team who knows how to play the game? Peppers looks like he wants to get released so he can get out of town...I dont blame him!
Posted by: patrick | Oct 30, 2007 5:34:20 PM
BTW, I tried to order an official Jarrett jersey at NFLShop.com and they would only sell me a REPLICA.
Ba-dum dum. Crack!
Thanks, I'll be here all week....
Posted by: JAT | Oct 30, 2007 5:36:05 PM
I dig what the Vin-monster can do. He's so damn cool in the pocket. And Davy Hotrod is cool, but he's a work in progress. But I think that the Cats should hike the damn ball directly to whoever is to run the play. K Colbert is a fast little fart. He could pull off a few yards, especially if the other 10 guys are on wall duty. Super Steve could do a wicked QB sneak. And we know Little D #34 can do it. Atlanta game, 2006.
Posted by: Manix | Oct 30, 2007 5:46:58 PM
I wonder if they tried pouring some Robitussin on it. That cures everything.
Posted by: Mark | Oct 30, 2007 6:21:23 PM
man we just signed another corner from another squad the season is a bust let the rookie qb, play. and then scrap the whole offense next year this sucks to be a loyal fan man. you try to give them a break and then they kick themselves in the foot what gives
Posted by: panta4life | Oct 30, 2007 6:33:29 PM
Carr needs another chance - and new play calls - and he needs to trust in Steve Smith. Carr needs to get him the ball, even if he has to throw to him in coverage.
Also, Vinny had one good drive, then another good drive that ended in an interception. The quality of the first drive had as much to do with the play of the players around him as it did to do with him.
Carr can do this. The key to that offense is Smitty... Finding ways to get him the ball is the key to winning.
Posted by: Mav | Oct 30, 2007 7:03:33 PM
You got it, "panta4life"...ignore the fact that we're leading the division. Give it up. There's no way we'll win another game, so we should shut it down for everybody on our team. Well, not EVERYbody, but Steve Smith, David Carr, DeShaun Foster, DeAngelo Williams, Brad Hoover, Keary Colbert, Drew Carter, Jeff King, Dante Rosario, Brett Basanez, Dalton Bell, Eric Shelton, Todd Sauerbrun, and Jarrod Cooper. No sense wasting our studs on a wasted season. Furthermore, Patrick Dendy is NOT "from another squad." a: He was a free agent. b: He was a starter LAST year. c: He'll serve as our DIME BACK. I don't know how that series of facts is an indictment of anybody on the team or in its front office.
Posted by: Michael Procton | Oct 30, 2007 10:22:02 PM
Our season, if you look closely at the remaining schedule, is effectively over. Our QB play is lousy, running game is ineffective; we don't get the ball to Smitty, which should be outlawed by the NC legislation. Our pass "rush" looks like the line at the DMV, and our run defense has done what Criss Angel couldn't do...made two 350-pound men legitimately disappear. The "special" teams look more like the Special Olympics, except for Kasay. All this, and we have just finished the soft part of our schedule, minus of course the Colts. Final record on the season.....7-9, at best. P.D.
Posted by: Panther Dan | Oct 30, 2007 11:20:35 PM
Here are some ideas for next season. OFFENSE: 1) The Panthers need to get a legitimate back up QB, which means see ya later Carr. 2) We need to pick up a dominant left offensive tackle. 3) We need a pounding running back to fill the gap that formed after the departure of Stephen Davis. 4) Jarrett needs to step up and become the #2 reciever. If he can't do it, then the Panthers need to get someone who can. DEFENSE: 1) The Panthers need another power house defensive end to compliment Peppers. 2) The Panthers need to boot Kemoeatu and find a dominant defensive tackle. 3) Our defensive backs are disappointingly terrible. The Panthers need a strong pick up in this position, and I would recommend replacing Lucas. He seems to be the weakest link amongst the backs. 4) Panthers safeties seem to be picking up the pace, but the team could stand to get some experience in the saftey area. Keep Harris and find a replacement for Cooper. COACHING: Well, I think there is a guy in Raleigh that may be able to fix some of the Panthers' problems. SPECIAL TEAMS: The Panthers special teams suck so bad that I don't even want to waste my time writting about them. Just a little advice, FIRE THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the Panthers can make these adjustments, then perhaps they can put together a good season next year.
Posted by: Ace | Oct 31, 2007 1:06:43 AM
Panther Dan; outrageously funny! Special Olympics cracked me up...very un-pc.
Now, onto the problem. Short of inventing a time-machine to pull our '03 squad into the here and now to play for us, I can't see us having a playoff run of any sort, nevermind a deep one. BUT, I can see us still getting something positive out of this season. I know Vinny's a great story and everything, but does anyone seriously think he has an upside? Carr's the man. We also need to experiment more with the O-line, coz what we have at the moment ain't gonna cut it in this league, no-matter how good it looks on paper.
And look on the bright side...we'll have a high draft pick next season :P
Posted by: Mozz-dawg | Oct 31, 2007 4:48:12 AM
I think Panther Dan is onto something... I'd rather stand in line at the DMV than have to watch another sorry blowout like Sunday's. It was disturbingly reminiscent of a Michael Vick beat-down… or at least it was as painful to endure.
Oh yeah, who’s our MVP so far? The punter--what’s his name again? That in itself says it all.
And another thing, I thought we fired Henning… Must be his ghost making the call for the third-and-long draw play. I thought winning coaches played to win instead of playing not to lose. If the latter is the teams philosophy, then why not take the return game completely out of the equation—you know, just to play it safe and eliminate turnovers. And why not get rid of the quarterback as well—you know, to play it safe and eliminate interceptions. And while you’re at it, throw the running game out the window as well because the running backs tend to cough the rock up, too.
I guess if our defense scored forty points a game that would be plausible, right?
Come on, Fox, points get put on the board by taking chances, and our defense isn’t going to shut-out teams every week, so ‘we gotta do what we gotta do, right?’ Loosen your belt and let your granddaddy pants hang down and go deep!
Remember the Super Bowl year? Delhomme to Smith, deep! Remember the Rams? Delhomme to Smith, deep!
No, not gay porn, but football—pure, beautiful, balls-in-the-air football.
Posted by: hillbilly | Oct 31, 2007 6:21:12 AM
Well said, Hillbilly. Well said.
Posted by: hillbilly | Oct 31, 2007 6:24:10 AM
no one listen to me...
i replied to my own post...twice
hahaha panthers suck this year... pack it in and perhaps in 15 years we can get to the playoffs and win our first superbowl. maybe Steve Smiths Son will lead this team to Glory and Current Steve Smith will be the Coach...
Posted by: Hillbilly | Oct 31, 2007 8:42:30 AM
We paid big money for Carr. If we are going to play him, and I think we should, let's open up the play book and get the ball downfield. If we have to limit the plays as much as we did in the Indy game when he is in, go with Moore. Your QB has to believe in himself, and that is hard to do if your offensive coordinator calls plays that clearly show he doesn't believe in you. Carr, don't scramble, make yourself find the open receiver. The world thinks you are shell-shocked, including your own team. Show them they are wrong, move around in the pocket, but don't leave it. And, if all you want is a career as a back-up, be honest and tell the coaches that. This is your chance to be the man, so be the man. You are not playing like someone who desperately wants to establish himself as a starter here or anywhere else. If they give you dink and dunk plays, look for the 3rd and 4th option anyway. What are they going to do, bench you for moving the team? It's better to burn out than fade away. Give us something exciting, as long as it is more than 20 yards downfield. But stop boring me.
Posted by: Willy | Oct 31, 2007 10:48:39 AM
I'm a life long cowboys fan. What you guys don't know about vinny is that at some point during a game he will make that crucial interception, guaranteed. Yes, he's a good guy and a decent QB but there is a reason why he's been on so many teams. It was evident when I watched every game he played in with the Cowboys.
On another note, I'm was extremely pissed that the cowboys let Matt Moore go. I saw all the preseason games and thought that the kid did great and would of liked to have him as a viable backup for short or long term stints. I'm just hoping that the Panthers don't start him until after the Cowboys game.
Posted by: jgonza | Oct 31, 2007 10:57:45 AM
Until we get a decent O Line, it doesn't matter who is the QB or who is running the ball. We can't run because no running lanes are being opened. We can't get the ball to Smitty because the QB has to start running for their life as soon as they take their drop. If you noticed Sunday, Manning had all afternoon to pickout his receivers. If you watch New England, Tom Brady has the same luxury.Until our QB, no matter WHO he is, can get the same kind of protection, don't look for any miracles. Is anybody else tired of the same old John Fox lines? How about some honesty from this guy for once!
Posted by: CPAMAN | Oct 31, 2007 11:02:46 AM
Vinny seems to find time to spread the ball around. Running is not really an option for him, and lo and behold, he finds open receivers (assuming they run the route they are supposed to run and don't let one little bump keep them from being where they are supposed to be - Colbert). The passes are there, you just have to be patient enough to find them. That, in turn, loosens up the D for the run. If a defense knows you aren't going to throw the ball more than 5 yards downfield, the defense of run or pass is pretty similar. Strong running game opens up a passing game, strong passing game opens up a running game. We clearly don't have the ability to start with the strong running game, so if you don't try to establish the passing game to free up the running game, you get eaten up like we did in the second half Sunday.
Posted by: Willy | Oct 31, 2007 11:53:45 AM
I still say Fox is more interested in building his new home on the lake than he is of building the Panthers team. Here's a note! Since the coaches, or Peppers, wants to drop back in coverage most of the time (useless tactic), how about moving him to middle linebacker. Yeah, that's right. We need a bit, bad, fast, doesn't get hurt all the time, middle linebacker who can roam both sides of the field!!!
Posted by: Big Mac Cat | Oct 31, 2007 12:34:42 PM
If Vinny can't go, Matt needs to play. I've seen all these QBs up close and Vinny is the best at being able to rally the troops. David has his moments but still gets some stage fright and happy feet from his Houston days. Matt is the real deal. Come on Matt! You can do it! I'll be back next year to lead us to the promised land though, so in the mean time, make sure you eat at Bojangles and subscribe to Time Warner
Posted by: Jake | Oct 31, 2007 12:43:45 PM
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