« It might be time to recheck QB list | Main | New QB's in town »

November 05, 2007

Broken thumb limited Hartwig

While there are no excuses for the play of Carolina’s offensive line (seven sacks allowed) in Sunday’s 20-7 loss at Tennessee, you might consider giving center Justin Hartwig a pass.

He broke his right thumb in the first quarter, but stayed in the lineup and played the rest of the game with the aching digit.

This afternoon, it was swollen to almost twice its normal size.

"A lot of pain," he said of playing through the injury. "I had trouble gripping the ball and I had problems grabbing people. I was kind of just stabbing at people. So it definitely wasn’t helping my game out."

Hartwig thought he might have caught the thumb between helmets during a pile-up at the line of scrimmage.

Hartwig had talked at length after the game, but never mentioned the thumb.

"It’s one of those things you deal with," he said. "The adrenaline kind of carried me through the game, and afterward I told the trainers about it. It is what it is right now."

If it still "is what it is" come Sunday, veteran Geoff Hangartner or rookie Ryan Kalil would start in Hartwig’s place.

-- Stan Olson

Posted by Observer Sports on November 5, 2007 at 04:56 PM | Permalink

Comments

Yeah, it is what it is, and what it is, is crap.

Posted by: Willy | Nov 5, 2007 5:21:53 PM

Yeah, thank goodness you guys had your adrenaline pumping, or else those Titans would have gotten a lot of sacks and stuffed the run.

Posted by: Willy | Nov 5, 2007 5:31:50 PM

Ryan Kalil should already be our center. Take a weak off Hartwig. Allow the rookie to come in and try his hand at snapping the ball to MATT MOORE! At least that is who he should be snapping to and then have MATT MOORE dropping back to throw it across the middle to DWAYNE JARRETT or another time to his instant chemistry receiever with the long playaction pass to STEVE SMITH because DEANGELO WILLIAMS has already received enough carries in the first half to have him established and ready to break out the long runs in the second half and assist DESHAUN FOSTER in controlling the rest of the game. That is called putting playmakers on the field starting the the "CENTER" piece.

Posted by: Eric Hypeman McDonald` | Nov 5, 2007 5:34:41 PM

pat or stan,

Is a 9 fingered Justin Hartwig really that much better than a full handed Kalil or Hangartner?

With 7 sacks, I can't help but wonder if he hurt the team more than he helped by staying in...

Posted by: Jeff Mitchell | Nov 5, 2007 5:34:47 PM

I get so sick of people trying to make excuses for a player's otherwise CRAP efforts. Why not put in someone with two healthy thumbs. Obviously, it was hindering him by his performance. What's this crap about a pass anyway?.....He still sucked....It is what it is...AKA We sucked today because ....(fill free to insert any reason here) Its like we have a team of retards that never have anything intelligent to say and the coach tells everyone to answer any question that way. "Uh IDUNNO GEORGE, It is what it is"

Posted by: Jason A | Nov 5, 2007 5:44:30 PM

When ordinary Que won't do....then it's Bubba's BBQ.

Bubb-bub-buuu.....Bubba's Bar-B-Quuuuueee.

Posted by: Bubba | Nov 5, 2007 5:52:03 PM

Sure Hartwig's injury hurt the production of the line, but seven sacks? A lot of that has to have been Carr holding the ball to long!

Posted by: Carr Blows | Nov 5, 2007 6:38:57 PM

Hartwig is the biggest wuss I have ever seen. Just another example of Hurney screwing up in free agency. I say show that wuss the door in the offseason and take Trgovac, Fox and Hurney with him.

Posted by: Hartwig is a wuss | Nov 5, 2007 6:47:03 PM

Hartwig is the biggest wuss I have ever seen. Just another example of Hurney screwing up in free agency. I say show that wuss the door in the offseason and take Trgovac, Fox and Hurney with him.

Posted by: Hartwig is a wuss | Nov 5, 2007 6:47:37 PM

Sadly I have to agree with Eric Hypeman McDonald I mean how bad can it get I just wish the Panthers Owner will make some move even thearten the coaching staff or front office , Hey the Browns owner did it and they made moves in the draft and thought free agency and in the tougher AFC they're 5 and 3 it even works in the NBA lokk at the Boston Celtics The Panthers need not a little spark but a explosion before fan strt wearing bags over their head at home games.

Posted by: panther hopeful | Nov 5, 2007 6:50:20 PM

This just reported on TV. Panthers just fired their MASCOTT....

Posted by: Cat's fan | Nov 5, 2007 6:53:21 PM

I hope Hartwig improves - we need him 100%.

Tha Panthers conservative approach has hit them hard. Hurney and Fox come from the shool that you can win the Super Bowl with an ordinary QB. I hope the last few games have taught them to not go after the older guys - that other team don't want - If they don't want them why do we?

Posted by: Kelso | Nov 5, 2007 7:39:21 PM

Way to go Hartwig... I'm sure glad you kept your injury to yourself until after the game...you were awesome. What a friggin' selfish attitude. I am truly at a lose of words here...I keep typing and deleting because I want to say words on here that would be censored. Will someone in the Panthers' organization please explain to these players what we need them to do? And the brain child who went out and got Carr...you should be fired immediately!

Posted by: Carolina Wild | Nov 5, 2007 7:39:56 PM

I hope Hartwig improves - we need him 100%.

Tha Panthers conservative approach has hit them hard. Hurney and Fox come from the shool that you can win the Super Bowl with an ordinary QB. I hope the last few games have taught them to not go after the older guys - that other teams don't want - If they don't want them why do we?

Posted by: Kelso | Nov 5, 2007 7:39:59 PM

Hey P/S -- Did Justin get a shot at halftime? If not, why not? Did he even tell the trainers about the bum thumb? If not, why not?

This is team is one excuse factory after another. You'd think beat reporters would have a field day with this crap -- but nah.

Posted by: JAT | Nov 5, 2007 7:47:39 PM

Oh and by the way, for those who haven't seen the post game press conference yet go to www.nfl.com/videos and select Carolina Panthers videos. Choose panthers postgame press conference and you will get to see and hear the "genius" David Carr speak...now it all makes sense why he can not make reads in this league... just a little hint, he said, and I quote, "It's not like they just out physicaled (sic) us, cause...well it was a very physical game"... Yes, he did say physicaled... But hey his hair was nice and greasyed up for the press. Speaking of that, I think I saw him on that TV show "Grease, you're the one that I want" earlier this year. Hey, "Danny", let's get physicaled, physicaled (song by Olivia Newton John). Okay enough for now... he makes this way too easy. What a friggin' clown we have for a QB. Someone from the media call the Texans and apologize to the O line....

Posted by: Carolina Wild | Nov 5, 2007 8:36:34 PM

Hartwig talked smack about Haynesworth and then got abused on the very first Panther offensive play! First play = sack. Sure the players deserve some blame but it all starts at the top. This team has no confidence in what the coaches are planning. Special teams is a disgrace. The defense deserves better than to have to start defending at the 50. If they lose to ATL this weekend I say can Fox immediately.

Posted by: Jaxon | Nov 5, 2007 8:36:36 PM

Umm, isn't that kind of thing the reason we drafted a center in the second round? I know we tried him at guard, and Hangartner is listed as the backup center but a healthy Kalil should be better than most any lineman with a broken thumb.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Nov 5, 2007 10:01:13 PM

John Fox on Panther huddle tonight: His answer to everything: "It's a combination of things, We need to play better as a team, The RB's had some good runs, this was lost in the game. We have injuries, We have played 4 quarterbacks.

This Fox guy doesn't miss much does he?

Bill Cower is not the answer however, he coached Pittsburgh what 50 years and only won the big one on the 50th.

We need to hire a legitimate President and General Manager to begin with. Then starting biting the bullet on this salary cap. Cut this dead weight over priced slabs of beef.

Posted by: pslholder | Nov 5, 2007 10:35:01 PM

pslholder, You've hit the provebial NAIL on the head and the imminent COFFIN on this joke of a front office and coaching staff!! Bill Polian smelled this nepotism of lousy Coffee, thus he departed. Fellas, 'it is what it is', IS in the seat of your pants!

Posted by: Bill Lassiter | Nov 6, 2007 10:19:31 AM

Post a comment






Advertisements