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March 18, 2008

Panthers interested in Florida's DE Harvey

While GM Marty Hurney and the Panthers offensive line coach were at Boston College today checking out Eagles offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus (see previous blog), head coach John Fox, defensive coordinator Mike Trgovac and defensive line coach Sal Sunseri were in Florida scouting Gators defensive end Derrick Harvey.

Numerous mock drafts have had the Panthers taking Harvey with their first-round pick, No. 13 overall.

If Carolina drafts him, Harvey (6-5, 271 pounds) would become the leading candidate to start at right defensive end opposite Julius Peppers.

The Panthers' contingent was seen huddling with Harvey at the pro day, according to a source in attendance.

Harvey participated in positional drills but didn't run the 40-yard dash.

At the NFL combine in February, his 40 time was acceptable but not as fast as expected (4.84 seconds). However, he tied for seventh at the combine among defensive linemen with 31 repetitions bench-pressing 225 pounds, and he was sixth in the 20-yard shuttle (4.36 seconds).

One of the most amazing statistics regarding Harvey is his 82-inch wingspan. Those long arms should serve him well in the NFL.

He had 8 1/2 sacks, 17 tackles for loss and five defelected passes last season. During the Gators' 2006 national championship season, he had 11 sacks and was the defensive MVP of the BCS national title game (three sacks and a fumble recovery vs. Ohio State).

-- Charles Chandler

Posted by Observer Sports on March 18, 2008 at 04:43 PM | Permalink


Any chance we could get Harvey with the 13th pick and still get Gosder Cherilus with our next pick?

That would give us a star DE and a solid OT!

Posted by: Matt West | Mar 18, 2008 4:49:56 PM


Posted by: paul | Mar 18, 2008 4:50:06 PM


Posted by: Haywood Jablowmi | Mar 18, 2008 5:00:19 PM

John and I have made considerable progress in relations to Derrick and Gosder. I will keep you updated Charles.

Posted by: Marty Hurney | Mar 18, 2008 5:01:01 PM

Man you see I don't know what to think now! As I've read about this kid for the past few months He's always been listed at 255lbs! which is way to light to play DE in a 4-3...but now this article is saying he's 271lbs! If he truly is that size then that changes things! I'd like the report on his weight confirmed because he looks really small.....(he does look good on the field though) So....if they pick him at 13 I wouldn't be mad at that pick because honestly......We need a OT but we need a DE even WORST! and There are plenty of Good OL to be had in the later rounds.

Posted by: Cheven | Mar 18, 2008 5:03:45 PM

Cheven ... You're right that Harvey played lighter (250-260) in college ... But he officially weighed in at 271 at the combine last month. He knows he needs the weight to be a DE in the pros. Also, during an interview at the combine, he said he "just grew." ... Charles

Posted by: Charles Chandler | Mar 18, 2008 5:10:08 PM

I'm not sure how I feel about Harvey, but anybody with an 82 inch wingspan has gotta be some kind of athlete. Perhaps he could be a Demarcus Ware/Terrell Suggs type player for Carolina?

Posted by: JPanther | Mar 18, 2008 5:25:51 PM

derrick harvey and kenny phillips are who we need for the panthers or Dejuan Morgan to help out harris

Posted by: greg | Mar 18, 2008 5:29:59 PM

Matt West, according to the draft boards they think Cherilus will fall to the very late first round...possibly second round. So I guess maybe we could trade up and get him...?

Posted by: JT | Mar 18, 2008 5:54:33 PM

Kenny Phillips was not impressive in any of the drills or the 40 yard dash at the combine so I would pass on him. I like Harvey but if there was a chance we could stay put or trade up a couple spots for Gholston from Ohio State I like it better. He is a absolute animal on the line and was a small highlight reel during this past season. If he goes to Oakland I would be happy with Harvey but no matter how many mock drafts there are things get crazy and switched up on draft day as we all know. I could see it being a productive draft if we went DE,OL,RB,FS with Harvey,Cherilus,best RB available and maybe DuJuan Morgan at FS. With the smart moves in FA this year a smart draft could put us back on track so I am excited about this upcoming season.

Posted by: JV | Mar 18, 2008 6:03:14 PM

Personally I believe the panthers approach during the offseason has been smart.This franchise has been built through a bit of free agency. Free agency sometimes can be a gamble.As a fan what can we expect in the draft as far as secondary help? Gamble is not physical enough and poor tackler.Seemingly always getting beat at critical points of the game.Any serious chance to move Gamble? Lucas seems to always be injury prone.Really excited about Marshall this season. It is yet to be seen if DeAngelo is a every down back. What is our focus in the draft for a RB? Any chance to see different playing calling with the running game now that DeAngelo is the starter?

Posted by: SNAPON3 | Mar 18, 2008 6:33:39 PM

"While GM Marty Hurney and the Panthers offensive line coach were at Boston College today....."

Hey Charles, do you even know his name? Nice reporting skills!

Posted by: Tony F'ing Rowell | Mar 18, 2008 7:13:48 PM

If they move Gamble that would be the complete downfall of the secondary. I have said this again and agian Gamble is the best cover corner we have. He is not physical thats for sure, but he is still the best coverage corner. Marshall is physical but gets burned all the time. Its not a corners job to tackle running backs. If a corner needs to tackle running back the linbackers suck at thier job. I could see Marshall at saftey or the nickel back thats it. He has not showed that he can be an every down corner.

Posted by: C Boss | Mar 18, 2008 7:30:51 PM


Posted by: The Richardsons | Mar 18, 2008 7:45:50 PM

so what happens to brayton then if we get this guy?

Posted by: KT | Mar 18, 2008 7:54:32 PM

He stays in the same role as he is now: versatile (he's played at DE, DT and OLB), affordable backup lineman.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Mar 18, 2008 8:24:05 PM

I like what JV said that will be a great way to set uphow you hope the draft goes, will just have to see and hope that everything fall the Panthers way.

Posted by: telling it like it is | Mar 18, 2008 8:31:20 PM

NO NO NO. Say this isn't so. Players from UF are busts in the NFL 95% of the time. And this guy is a midget DE in the pros, I don't care how long his monkey arms are.
If they take him, that means maybe an OT in the second round and he'll have to play RT, which means moving sorry as Gross back to LT where he absolutely sucks ass.
And with Hurney, its very likely they ignore OT completely in this draft (see NFL Draft 07, the safety position)

Posted by: Jakim Nuggets | Mar 18, 2008 11:00:22 PM

Watch the language guys. You can get your point across without being vulgar. Grow up kids.

Posted by: Brandon | Mar 19, 2008 7:04:39 AM

Derrick, I will remove one of your long arms from your body and pound you with it. Watch it chump. I can't help it you went to a school that doesn't develop NFL-ready talent.

Remember this quote from Marty Hurney last year?
"Marty, why didn't you draft even one safety, the biggest position of need for your team?"
Marty: "The draft just didn't fall the way we needed it to for drafting a safety."

Be prepared to hear the same lame excuse this year if they bypass taking a solid OT with their first pick and take Derrick Harvey or Mendenhall or whoever. He will say the same thing and add "all along we have felt very comfortable with Wharton as our starting LT."

Posted by: Jakim Nuggets | Mar 19, 2008 7:26:30 AM

Why not draft Mendenhall? Big Ten running backs dominate on the next level, I'm all for it.

Posted by: Ki-Jana Carter | Mar 19, 2008 7:39:46 AM

We have a good running back and other pressing needs. Drafting a running back will only be for depth. You dont get depth in the first round, you get a starter and potential play maker. We should get a OT, S, or DE in the first round. In that order of most pressing need. I would advise to trade down to the early 20's and draft Albert from UVA as he projects to be a good RT in the pros. With the 2 2nd round picks we will have then, I would grab S Josh Barret and the best available DE. Some one I really prefer is Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie in the first round and switching him to FS. He played that position at the senior bowl and was MVP. I think Running back will be addressed in the 3rd to 4th round because it is a deep class this year and quality will still be available at that point in the draft.

Posted by: Brandon | Mar 19, 2008 9:32:38 AM

Derrick Harvey wont be a bad pick. Wingspan is more important than height if you are within about a 3-4 inch height difference. If you are short and can get low with long arms - it makes it very tough to block. Ask any o-lineman. Not to mention, long arms are easier to wrap up a ballcarrier with and harder to break arm tackles.

Posted by: james | Mar 19, 2008 7:53:37 PM

Ok well harvey is goin to be good in the NFL becuz 1 long arms for tackling like you said. 2 he is a lil taller than freeney colts DE and 3 is tackling skills are amazing when he wraps somebody up they aint gettin out. i said yea he'll play like freeney and strahan a mix between them both. HE'll be really good you wact and see!

Posted by: paul | Mar 20, 2008 2:06:33 PM

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