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May 10, 2008

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Panthers wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad probably hasn't thought about it, but his return is likely to secure one important team record for at least a few more years.  Muhammad, who played for Carolina from 1996 through 2004, has 578 receptions, the most in franchise history. If he plays at all regularly, he should blow past 600 this year.

Which means fellow receiver Steve Smith, who has 431 catches, will stay No.2 awhile longer.

Carolina, of course, has only been in the NFL since 1995, which means its various top tens aren't exactly dotted with Hall of Famers.

While Wesley Walls -- a superb tight end -- is No.3 with 324 grabs, the rest of the list doesn't conjure up images of Jerry Rice.

No.4 is Mark Carrier (176 receptions), a solid performer who made one Pro Bowl (with Tampa Bay, not the Panthers) in his 12-year career. He's followed by Kris Mangum (151), Brad Hoover (135), Donald Hayes (132), DeShaun Foster (126), Rocket Ismail (117) and Keary Colbert (109).

Then consider that the Colts' Marvin Harrison caught 143 passes in 2002 alone, a total that would be good for No.6 on Carolina's career list.

Which means that if free agent signee D.J. Hackett, whom I wrote about for Thursday's paper, has two simply respectable seasons with the Panthers, he could jump right into the Top Ten.

By the way, Smith's 103 catches in 2005 is the club single-season record. But it's tied for 32nd on the NFL's overall list. -- Stan Olson

Posted by Observer Sports on May 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM | Permalink

Comments

Moose's 16-TD year in '04 does tie him for 13th all time.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 10, 2008 12:56:23 PM

Wow,thanks Proctologist,that was almost as usless as this blog.

Posted by: Ghost of Sparta | May 10, 2008 1:27:46 PM

tied for 13th all time, huh ,wow!!

Posted by: matt | May 10, 2008 1:43:44 PM

Yeah...out of the thousands (tens of thousands?) to play the position, he had more TDs in one year than all but 12 of 'em (with a hell of a QB throwing him the ball.) That's pretty damned impressive, as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 10, 2008 3:05:41 PM

I had no idea Hoover had that many career receptions. How many catches does it usually take for a receiver to start getting HOF consideration? I honestly have no clue.

Posted by: TP | May 10, 2008 3:10:30 PM

Um Procton

How about a little thought before you post. 10,000 WRs? Not even close

Posted by: catturd | May 10, 2008 3:19:34 PM

hey catturd, actually if you do the math, and only count 30 teams back to the 70's and 24 teams back to 1930 with an average of 7 receivers (inlcudes TE's) then 10,000 is a pretty acurate number. Of course if you then count every WR who wore a uni on the sidelines, in pre-season, or in cmaps, then you'd have to double that number, jsut to be fair!

Posted by: mr r | May 10, 2008 4:16:26 PM

The lowest receivers in the HOF have 330-340 receptions (Mackey, Charlie Sanders, Lynn Swann), but two of these are TEs. After those guys, it looks like you've got to be right up around 375, but for guys whose careers ended recently (as the game has trended further towards passing), it's looking a lot closer to 500+.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 10, 2008 5:01:52 PM

If Muhammad gets 854 catches he will be in the Hall of Fame. He has 742 receptions and 9934 yards right now.

Posted by: Ron King | May 10, 2008 5:36:09 PM

Mr r

Your matrh assumes they play 1 year only. Most play multiple years. A closer estimation would be the number drafted each year. I would bet that there has never been 50 WRs drafted times 80 some odd years equals roughly 4000 to have "played the position". Far short of "tens of thousands".

Posted by: catturd | May 10, 2008 7:14:13 PM


And if this list is accurate, it's less than 3000.

Posted by: catturd | May 10, 2008 7:15:54 PM

Muhammad is da best reciever we ever had until steve smith came along...I hope he make the hall of fame...

Posted by: bennyfrankz | May 10, 2008 7:20:50 PM

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/wrindex.htm


forgot the link

Posted by: catturd | May 10, 2008 7:22:59 PM

catturd, your a moron, there hasn't even been a draft that long, the average life span of an NFL player is two years dude, that's why they get a pension at three. you are just a moron who likes to argue, and thus your name, really what is a cat turd but a feces that gets thrown in the trash and taken to the dump, says a lot about you.

Posted by: not a turd | May 10, 2008 7:43:55 PM

The Panthers are my number one team in all of sports. Moose is one of my favorite athletes, but he will not make the HOF

Posted by: Chucktown Cat | May 10, 2008 8:12:19 PM

I just think any list that contains Colbert must be a pretty crappy list. What a piece of shi***** he turned out to be, all speed and no hands.

Posted by: rclark | May 11, 2008 12:42:47 AM

Not a turd

I posted a link to a list that shows WRs who have played all the way back to the 20's. In other words I made a point and provided proof. You add nothing but insults and yet I'm the "moron who likes to argue"? Try adding some substance, if it's within your mental capability.

Posted by: catturd | May 11, 2008 6:08:01 AM

Well, the most impressive WR record for a Panther is when Smith won the triple crown of receiving in '05. That put him in the company of Jerry Rice and Sterling Sharpe, as the only players to accomplish it in the modern era NFL.

Posted by: Jerad H. | May 11, 2008 12:57:26 PM

catturd, i'm neutral in this, but as a former coach, this list is missing three or more people i coached, so ho accurate can it be? and that doesn't count others who played in pre-season and n camps, being signed means they were professionals even if never making it to a sunday.
and I also agree tht your name is a refelction of who you are and at least a refelction of how you feel about yor sefl deep inside, a turd, I suggest professional spiritual counseling guy.

Posted by: coach | May 11, 2008 1:02:28 PM

Hey "coach", did you get fired because of your illiteracy and inability to spell?

Posted by: Bob | May 11, 2008 6:25:29 PM

No, I would say he was fired for his inability to form a complete thought, as well as his skill at coaching.

He must have taken lessons from the former coaching staff of the Miami Dolphins, whom taught him all the fine aspects of failing in life.

Posted by: Shawn | May 11, 2008 11:01:10 PM

as a senior citizen, who didn't grow up with computers and first touched one at age 71, I depend on spell check which isn't on here, but thanks bob and shawn for your class. I was quite successful in life, marrid 52 years now, have 13 grand kids and 8 great grandchildren, one of whom is US Senator, 3 professors, 2 docters, 2 serving in non-profit companies in third world countries, and I oculd go on but the rest all well adjusted, no arrests, no drug addicts, family harmony throughout, sorry for the pain in your lives bob and shawn that make you so caustic and crass. (illeteracy means you can't read so if one was ittlerate thow could they read and write, go get a life)

Posted by: coach | May 12, 2008 9:52:29 AM

Cool, coach...but my dad could beat up your dad.

Posted by: Michael Procton | May 12, 2008 10:12:35 AM

Picking on a 70 something year old man...it's a shame the blog has to turn to this when the team news is few and far between.

Posted by: JV | May 12, 2008 11:18:47 AM

I dropped a turd earlier this morning......it was kinda stinky. Like the Bucs.

Posted by: pnthrfan | May 12, 2008 11:28:35 AM

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