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June 13, 2008

Tampa's on Panthers' minds

When the Panthers broke their final huddle around coach John Fox at  the end of Thursday's wrapup OTA, they shouted "Tampa."

They weren't sounding a warning for their NFC South Division rival Tampa Bay Buccaneers; their thoughts went considerably beyond that.

"Tampa; yeah, it's where the Super Bowl is," said RB DeAngelo  Williams a few minutes later, laughing. "It's getting our minds set.  We've come along this year a lot faster than last year as far as jelling as a team. We're complementing each other, know what each other's going to do before they do it. And it really makes you effective and it keeps the defense on their heels.

"We're going to be a really hard offense to stop this year, with our wide receivers on the edge, having Jake (quarterback Delhomme) back and having the offensive line that we have."

Hey, OTAs went well, and even if every other team thinks it did just as well, might as well aim high...
--Williams, by the way, is hosting a paintball tournament where the winner will play Williams and some of his Panthers teammates. Proceeds going to his foundation, which funds education concerning breast cancer for women and also helps pay for the treatment of those who can't afford it. For more information, go to the website, www.armyoften.com.
--There were some interesting comments to the previous Inside the Panthers post. One point that our readers cleared up and we should  have touched on here before is the fact -- pointed out by several alert posters -- that centers, like the 300-pound Ryan Kalil -- don't have to be huge to be effective, relying more on technique and combination blocks. Kalil's size is fine, and we should have made that point in all our talk about this huge new line. We read you guys, and often learn something -- like maybe I shouldn't use the phrase, "pronounced  himself pleased."  Ahh, I'll probably slip it in again somewhere, or  at least, "pronounced himself ticked off."


Posted by Observer Sports on June 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM | Permalink


Haha...Stan, I loved the expression. Also, I expect no less, but I'm glad they're focused on the ultimate goal and not any stops in between.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 13, 2008 12:34:52 PM

Oh, and if we end up needing a vet QB (I think we're fine barring further injury to Jake, which I don't expect), I hope we take a look at Quinn Gray. He just got cut by the Texans since they didn't end up trading Sage Rosenfels, and he's a solid backup, particularly at the $600K he was getting paid for the year.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jun 13, 2008 12:38:33 PM

Hi Stan,
You guys need to publish a Panthers translation dictionary, like when Fox says "it is what it is" it really means "I'm not going to discuss in detail.", or when Jake says "everybody's done great", and leaves a guy out by name, that means "He's in danger of being cut." Like, Jake was interviewed and indicated that Dwayne Jarrett was progressing too, it sounded like a nice way of saying another year of inactive, unless Moose tweaks a hammy. I am proud, but somewhat bored with the excellent verbal discipline the Panthers employ. I know they have to do it, so it makes it a fun game to read between the lines.

Posted by: Ben | Jun 13, 2008 1:03:45 PM

About your comment on Peppers lack of zeal during sprints....

It reminds me of that whole D-line's attitude after the year the superbowl. That entire crew is now gone, with the exception of Julius Poopers. If he's still dragging feet, the whole contract-year related talent-augmentation theory will obviously not apply to him. So why pay a guy a third of the salary cap to allow apponents to zip by him??

A trade with the big tuna in Miami is in order! Poopers for Dancing with the Stars, along with a 1st and 6th round pick next year (a 2nd & 4th will do). With Jason Taylor here, the Panthers will still have a high-caliber pass-rusher/veteran leader in place, and all for a lesser cap impact (I hope). He should still be good for another year or two, allowing for the younger guys to develop as planned.

Just a note, Taylor can also be lured by the movie studios in Wilmington, NC. It is reportedly the second biggest on the East Coast.

Posted by: SYRPIS | Jun 13, 2008 2:25:00 PM

David Scott...

Thanks for the excellent article:

Posted by: SYRPIS | Jun 13, 2008 2:37:27 PM

Peppers is going to be an issue this year in that if he does not produce, and his contract is up what do you do? You cant trade him for "Dancing with the Stars" in Miami (SYRPIS). This guy is on his way out, we have to put the franchise tag on him and shop else where, and or pray that he snaps out of the coma that he is in. Either way somebody wants him, but not as bad as i want him to come back to his elite form!!

Posted by: Chuck | Jun 13, 2008 4:03:12 PM

how'd our new free safety and other draft choices look in OTA's???

Posted by: not tellin | Jun 13, 2008 4:12:08 PM

First,Taylor has more than 1 or 2 left in him. The problem is he's only playing 1 more year.So lets see, Peppers for 2 draft picks and a year with Taylor.Yeah thats smart.Give up Peppers for someone who'd rather dance than support his 1 and 15 team.And y'all get on Peppers. He's 4 years younger with plenty of football left in him.And you want to trade for a couple of picks and a ballerina to help us out for a year.Hell Taylor would leave us for American Idol auditions comes back around.LOL.

Posted by: bryant80 | Jun 13, 2008 4:21:05 PM

*when American Idol auditions come back around .LOL

Posted by: bryant | Jun 13, 2008 4:23:55 PM


Too funny!!

Posted by: Chuck | Jun 13, 2008 4:40:53 PM

Speaking of a new backups QB that we can rely on....Marcus Vick should be pretty cheap. Actually, I bet if Fox paid his bail money he would play for free.

Posted by: Walrus84 | Jun 13, 2008 5:34:24 PM

Wouldn't it be great to beat the patriots (Or any other team)in our NFC South rivals house?

Posted by: leroy | Jun 13, 2008 7:26:44 PM

It's interesting to hear Deangelo describe the team chemistry as "a lot faster than last year as far as jelling as a team." For those who were concerned about Fox cutting the OTAs short and wishing he'd go the distance so the new players could learn more and develop better chemistry on the line, that's kind of heartening if what Deangelo is describing turns out to be true.

Stan, since you read these comments, what's your assessment on the younger guys adapting to the NFL? Is Deangelo right? Are they building chemistry to a significant enough level that you think they'll make some noise this year on the offense?

If so, I can only imagine that will spell wonders for the defense, too. The past few years, they've spent entirely too much time on the field with three-and-out's supplied by the offense. If they can just find the right balance, I think this team could go pretty far this year.


Posted by: NSpicer | Jun 13, 2008 8:33:19 PM

Lets bring in Marcus Vick

Posted by: Proctologist | Jun 14, 2008 10:29:01 AM

Don't be too hard on yourself when it comes to language and terminology, Stan. At least you quoted DeAngelo properly when he used the word "jelling." It seems four out of five sportswriters instead use its homophone "gelling," unaware that they are referring to insoles you put in your shoes or gook you put in your hair.

Posted by: Scully | Jun 14, 2008 10:43:07 AM

Guys! lets dont mark Julius out yet. He could do really well this year if 1 or 2 defensive players can get in the backfield to help out he'll do fine.

1. Im really ecited about Charles Godfrey @ S! we know what Harris can def do.

2. Our LB's are going to be scary against offenses

3. We have good deph on the DL with good expirience!

4. I have a feeling Gamble or lucas will lose their starting job to Richard Marshall.

5. Our offense is goin to be hard to stop!!

Posted by: paul | Jun 14, 2008 11:13:49 AM

Julius Poopers? Seriously? WOW. It doesn't get any gayer than that.

Posted by: Haywood Jablowmi | Jun 14, 2008 1:05:56 PM

When Julius Peppers takes over games this year, I hope you whiners are tough enough to eat a healthy dose of crow! The same folks who are ready to run him out of town will want to crown him king instead.

Posted by: Leroy | Jun 14, 2008 1:16:34 PM

I dont know about king but yea they will want him back...they'll be like " without him our defense is gunna suck we got to have him"

Posted by: paul | Jun 14, 2008 3:15:00 PM

Stan, I "pronounce you over the top". I, and quite a lot of other Panther fans, truly enjoy getting our fix of Panther news here at the "O". They may not all be as funny or self-efacing as this post, but we eat it up none the less. Keep up the good work of keeping us informed. Panther news is like your mothers cooking, a little is good, but more is better!

Trade Pep? No way. Trade Procton? Yes way!

As always, GO CATS!!

Posted by: iamhubby | Jun 14, 2008 4:00:27 PM

Why don't we think of getting chris simms? He would love to get tampa back after what they did to him and he would be a great backup.

Posted by: karnij69 | Jun 14, 2008 9:23:00 PM

Haha, karnij69, dont you think he'd also like to get back at us after what we did to him in 2006? i.e. exploding spleen.

Honestly, who really cares who the backup is. Typically, if your starter goes down for a major portion of the season, you're not bringing home a super bowl anyway. May as well have some younger guys who are high risk high reward, than some college flame out like Simms. Apparently, the only way your backup will carry you to the promised land is if they were a star in NFL Europe (Warner/Delhomme). But seriously, if Delhomme goes down again, kiss your postseason goodbye and plan for next year. Unfortunately I actually believed David Carr was decent enough to start last year so I wasn't as horrified as I should have been when Jake threw out his arm.

Posted by: Christian | Jun 15, 2008 1:37:34 AM


I been away for awhile reading periodically and you are the same as always ANALytical about Numbers! Quinn Grey, is he The Mentor for Moore in the future or does Grey just fit your Numbers(600k), of a Bad Brain you have?? I bet if Campbell's made a,, or maybe they do, A Numbers Soup, Your head would be like pouring a can down the toilet and flushing!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bt | Jun 15, 2008 2:02:55 AM

Please respond, because when everyone comments and there are zero numbers too Crunch,, you are ABSENT!! Let me run and spend 20 to 25 Mins. too research,, to say you are INCCORECTTTTTTT!

Posted by: bt | Jun 15, 2008 2:11:01 AM

what thoughts do I bring? The best Receiving group Panthers have ever had, Possibly the Best Linebackers Group in Panthers History(Depth).. With Stewart and Williams,, should be one of the Top Tandums in The League. Peppers will have his typical great year after his CRAP one! What is SLACK??, (If Any) Is in our D-Line and will be picked up by our LB'S.. Secondary... Very HOPEFULLLLLL!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bt | Jun 15, 2008 2:50:34 AM

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