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July 07, 2008

Favre to Carolina? No, it's Jake's team

Brett Favre to the Carolina Panthers?


This is Jake Delhomme's team.

As great as Favre has been in Green Bay, the Panthers don't need the distraction he would be here. He would steal all the focus of their preseason and season. His presence would be overshadowing, and far more disruptive than any benefit that would be gleaned.

About the only sure benefit would be publicity.

To pursue Favre would be an act of irresponsible desperation.

The Panthers desperately want to win the Super Bowl, but there is plenty of wisdom among the folks calling the shots at Bank of America Stadium to know to stay far, far away from Favre.

He might fit with some team out there if he really plays again, but not the Panthers.

Carolina doesn’t need No. 4. The jersey number isn’t even available. John Kasay has been wearing it since the team’s 1995 debut.

Favre would be looking for a final hurrah. Carolina is a team looking for a fresh start. The two don’t mix.
During the offseason, the Panthers beefed up their offensive line, drafted a new running back (Jonathan Stewart) and made it clear to anyone even remotely paying attention that they have confidence in Delhomme and his surgically repaired right elbow.

They didn't even pursue a veteran backup, choosing to stick with Matt Moore and Brett Basanez, two young prospects with promise.

The team’s faith in Delhomme may or may not turn out to be warranted.

But Panthers officials aren’t all of a sudden going to start panting and gasping like lovesick schoolkids just because Favre reportedly wants to play again -- and allegedly would like to play for the Panthers.
General manager Marty Hurney was wise not to say “no comment” when the Observer's David Scott asked him last week about the Favre-to-Carolina rumors that appeared on the internet. But Hurney was smart to say he has no idea where this kind of talk gets started.

Hurney was caught in a tough spot. To say nothing would have been to feed suspicions that this crazy talk is actually true.

It's time to Barney Fife this latest Panther rumor, folks, just like the one earlier this year that the team was looking to trade Julius Peppers.

To Barny Fife something means – in the words of the famous Mayberry deputy – to “nip it in the bud.”

Consider this one nipped.

-- Charles Chandler

Posted by Observer Sports on July 7, 2008 at 06:43 PM | Permalink


Charles, at least you didnt lash out at PFT like Sorenson did.

What isnt the original rumor that Favre's agent has said privately that Brett wants to be a Panther, are you saying this rumor is false?

Posted by: matt | Jul 7, 2008 7:22:24 PM

PFT and Florio are stupid. Listing totally unsubstantiated rumors is not good for anybody. What was Hurney supposed to say? "Oh...there's a website that says that some guy might have heard Brett Favre's agent might think Favre wants to play for the Panthers? Interview over, I've got a phone call to make!"

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 7, 2008 7:54:07 PM

I do agree that Florio and PFT are stupid and I think Hurney did say the correct thing, but on the other hand, had Favre's agent had contacted Hurney, I seriously doubt Hurney would acknowledge it. But because Florio and PFT did report it, doesnt make it untrue, nor does it make it true, but I would trust his inside sources more than Tom Sorenson.

Again, the rumor is not that Favre is coming here, the rumor is that Favre wants to come here, and Hurney saying it was just rumor, doesnt discredit the initial report

Posted by: matt | Jul 7, 2008 8:02:04 PM

Hey Charles, thank you so much for the clarification. Someone had to let people know the Panthers are nicely set at QB. The Panthers didn't scour the bushes for a QB, because they felt they did not need one. If, God forbid, something happens to Jake, Moore is very able to general this team. I for one am tired of the Jake bashers. He has proven himself to be productive in this league.

We may not have a Manning or a Brady, but, few teams do. There are teams that would love to have a QB of Jakes caliber. I am glad we have him, and with luck, should keep him around for a few more years.

As always, GO CATS!

Posted by: iamhubby | Jul 7, 2008 8:03:40 PM

Common sense rules the day. Thank God.

Posted by: monstercat | Jul 7, 2008 8:07:07 PM

"As great as Favre has been in Green Bay, the Panthers don't need the distraction he would be here. He would steal all the focus of their preseason and season. His presence would be overshadowing, and far more disruptive than any benefit that would be gleaned."

Im not a fan of bringing Favre to the Carolinas but that statement to me sounds like what the Panthers need to fly under the radar for the team.If Espn,Fox Sports,Pft,Jime Rome,Nfl Sunday Countdown,The Charlotte Observer,Etc,Etc,Etc, want to sit there and talk to Farve all year (If he was a Panther)about why he is sitting the bench,waste your time,It will only make Jake better and give more fuel for the fire with the team.

Which the above scenario would happen,However it would motivate the team more than distract it,Espically with SOME ego's on this team............

Posted by: GhostOf Sparta | Jul 7, 2008 8:15:07 PM

Ohhhhhhh and another thing if there is anything ever to the PFT story its that agents Lie and the Perfect thing to reunite Favre with Gruden is to upstart Panther talk............Division Rival? Hmmmmmmm. Team in need of a QB? Hmmmmmmmmm. Former Coach with former Player? Hmmmmmmm. If you trust what agents say your as blind as fools who write in a newspaper....

Posted by: Ghost of Sparta | Jul 7, 2008 8:19:58 PM

but Ghost, if the agent were trying to bring about intrest for his client, dont you think he would have named a better prospect such as, well, every team within the NFC North. That is a poor agent if he chose Carolina as the best team to try and make teams believe there was intrest in his client

Posted by: matt | Jul 7, 2008 8:35:44 PM

Negative Matt, because the Packers wont trade him to a team in the North.I think you know why, and you should know that the Packers would rather NOT release him because of certain teams ,OK, ALL, teams in that division.

Posted by: Ghost of Sparta | Jul 7, 2008 8:39:53 PM

I think there was a reason why Favre to Carolina was posted under the RUMOR MILL section of PFT because it was just that, a RUMOR.

Posted by: pantherfan123 | Jul 7, 2008 8:44:13 PM

ok, but I'd think that a team like Miami, Atlanta, Seattle, Tampa Bay are all more likely candidates than Carolina, again, if the agent were trying to generate legitimate intrest for his client, he would have chosen a better "dummy" team than Carolina.

Posted by: matt | Jul 7, 2008 8:46:10 PM

Matt that is kinda what I was getting at with "Tampa" under his agent trying to run a smoke screen by mentioning Carolinas name.....

Posted by: Ghost of Sparta | Jul 7, 2008 8:51:14 PM

Glad to see a writter on our side!

Posted by: #1 Fan | Jul 7, 2008 9:41:08 PM

iah, Moore is NOWHERE NEAR ready to take this team to the playoffs.

PF...isn't EVERYTHING on PFT posted to the "rumor mill"? Isn't that all they do?

And Matt...you're a fool if you think Favre's going to Seattle or TB. Hass is miles ahead of Brett at this point in their careers, and Gruden isn't dumb enough to piss off Garcia even MORE. The other teams aren't really competitors to win it all, which means he's not interested in them.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 8, 2008 12:01:03 AM

Farve would be a no brainer on a 2 year contract! Has nobody noticed Jakes happy feet in the pocket? He dances around like he has restless leg syndrome. I completely understand. With no offensive line, your counting the seconds till somebody knocks your head off, but Jake has no poise. He's afraid. Who can blame him? Brett threw for almost 16,000 yards in the last 4 years with no sign of slowing down, by the way. Anyway, let's go with Jake cause he's so great! Ha!!!

Posted by: tater1211 | Jul 8, 2008 6:46:47 AM

Proc....I'd put a nice wager on Mike Holmgren taking Brett Favre over Hassleback for this upcoming season, especially if Holmgren is on his way out. And I dont put any quarterback acquisition beyond the realm of what Gruden would do, I think he'd also take Favre over Garcia.....I think both of those situations make more sense than carolina

Posted by: Matt | Jul 8, 2008 7:42:47 AM

Proc....I'd put a nice wager on Mike Holmgren taking Brett Favre over Hassleback for this upcoming season, especially if Holmgren is on his way out. And I dont put any quarterback acquisition beyond the realm of what Gruden would do, I think he'd also take Favre over Garcia.....I think both of those situations make more sense than carolina

Posted by: Matt | Jul 8, 2008 7:43:19 AM

Jake is a bum. The Panthers need to realize that its not 2003 anymore.Farve isnt the answer neither is Jake. Maybe forfeiting the season is the best option, that way nobody gets hurt.

Posted by: big daddy | Jul 8, 2008 7:47:30 AM

Tater, Favre has also played in an offense designed to put him in charge, unlike Delhomme (except maybe '05.) He's also had a better running game behind him when they have used it, as well as better complimentary receivers (Driver is basically as good as Smith.) Also, Favre's QB rating the last four years: 82.2; Jake's? 87.6

Oh, and Big Daddy: is it, say, 2005, when he went to the Pro Bowl and put the team in the NFC Championship with Nick Goings at RB? Or is it maybe 2007, when he was 2nd in the league in passer rating before he got hurt?

Posted by: Michael Procton | Jul 8, 2008 8:21:27 AM

OK. It's a rumor (Brett says it's a rumor that he's returning). It would be disruptive (ANY new QB at thist time would, right?). It's just agent talk (this is what agent's do, correct?). Hurney said the right thing (there's a first!). I agree with all that.

But will somebody, for the love of God somebody, pull Sorenson's and Chandler's head out of the gigantic BUTT of Jake Delhomme???? Holy cow, does ANYBODY really believe we can't upgrade at the QB spot? Are you kidding me? He's a nice guy, and decent athlete, and he saves kittens from trees and helps old ladies cross the street...I GET IT, HE'S GOOD PEOPLE. But my God why does every-frickin'-body ride the Jake train like he's a franchise QB. He's not.

When your team, any team, is so incredibly loaded with talent that you don't "need" a playmaker at QB, then you can win in the NFL. At that point, "solid, mistake free" QBs work. When, just out of curiosity have we had that? The ONLY position we've had that we could countn on day in/day out is John Kasay. The dream season wouldn't have been the dream season had we not had Kasay to be our primary scorer.

I appreciate Jake. If I ever see the man out I'm shinin' his shoes, and buying him some of that chicken he advertises. But please stop pretending he's anything other than a 2nd tier QB in the NFL. That might be enough to push a great team over the top, but it's not enough to carry an average team.

Posted by: Simplyhere | Jul 8, 2008 8:40:05 AM

Driver is basically as good as Smith????

Posted by: Mason | Jul 8, 2008 8:41:17 AM

To the so called fans that don't like Jake,, Find another team to root for!!! (As I wave at you with only one finger).

Anyone that knows what a football looks like should know that the Panther's problems were not the QB, but rather the O line. So Tater 1211, you say Jake Has happy feet? I wonder what you would look like trying to play QB with the O. Line that Jake had to work with in recent years. Last year they did do a lot better than in recent years but still left some to be desired. John Fox and Marty Hurney have done a great job in getting what I believe are the right people in there.

Michael P, I know it has been months since the Panther's have been on the field and maybe your memory is a bit short. So let me refresh your memory. Mat Moore led the team to victory in two of the three games he started (Seattle and Tampa) he also did very well against Dallas. Those three teams all went to the play-offs. If it weren't for a horrific job by the officials in the Dallas game. Matt More would have led the Panther's to victory there as well.

But that is in the past.

True Panther Fans,,, need to stand up for the team and encourage the players we have. When the Fans stay focused it is essayer for the team to stay focused.

Support from the fans is Vital, it can make good players Great and Great players Hero's. Look at the Great Teams. You will see Great Fans. Right now the only problem I see with the Panther's, is the Fans.

The ones bickering about the past and getting lost in Roomers. You want the players to stay focused. Right? You want excellence from the team and the Coaching staff. Right?

Then Practice what you Preach. Stay Focused, Let the Past GO, Stand up for the team. Get some Panther Pride and Pass it on to the players and coaches.

encourage the young players. And above ALL SUPPORT the TEAM, OR MOVE ON. If you don't like being a Panther Fan. Than don't be. After all you are not under contract.

Posted by: MikeL57 | Jul 8, 2008 8:51:13 AM

Thank You for serving to the public & finaly putting to rest the Favre rumor comming in to help the Panthers business.

When I first heard of this rumor, the first thing that came to my mind was,If remotely true, "Has Hurney not learned from his great mistake of bringing in Keyshawn Johnson?" Who at that time in his career was realy done too!
I felt that Favre was done in 2004 & 2005 and he was becomming an imbarresment to himself and to the Packer organization!

2006 for Favre wasn't very good either, but he hung around until the Packers were able to put together a decent Offensive line and in 2007 the Packers finally had a very good season while the Packers O-line to there credit made Favre look great once again and prooving that a Gramma can play QB, If the O-line is good enough!

The person who began this rumor, apparently does not believe in the miracle of "TOMMY JOHN SURGERY!"
I remember Tommie when he was a White Sox average Pitcher! With constant pain in his arm, The White Sox released him, "he was finished!". He tried surgery and it so revitalized his throwing arm, that he gained about 10 mph to the speed of his pitch and the Yankees gave him a huge contract where he finished his career a success!

Panthers Fans, " Jake Delhomme is a very good QB and he has the 0-LINE now and I do believe the Panthers coaching staff when they say that, "Jake is ready!", Heck they should know, "There jobs are on the line!"

Naa, Favre comming to uptown Charlotte is only a "vacation story" to sell newspapers while we all wait for the opening of camp!

With these over due changes the Panthers coaching staff have made in the off season, This really should be an exciting year, Although, I still hold my breath..

Thanks again Charles..

Posted by: MikePhelan | Jul 8, 2008 8:53:10 AM

Well, I don't think that there is any reason to think Brett Favre would come here. First of all, he is still under contract with the Packers and he would have to write a letter of reistatement to the team. Once that happens they can either bring him back or release him. Second of all, we obviously have Jake. If Jake gets injured again this year, then Brett might not be a bad person to call....

Posted by: Rob | Jul 8, 2008 9:24:26 AM

I don't understand why everyone bashes on Jake so much. I know that he has had some bad games and sometimes makes bad decisions, but overall he has been one of the better QBs in the league. And thats taking more than just 2003 in to consideration. If you look at the statistics, in the four years that Jake's played more than 4 games (2002-2006), he's been a top 10 QB, and he took us to at least the NFC Championship game 2 of those 4 years. During that time he's averaged 3333yds, 23 TDs, 14 INTs, 60% completion, and 85 QB rating. Take Peyton and Brady out of the picture and there aren't too many QBs who have done better. I bet super bowl MVP Eli Manning's 4 years in the league don't look that good. Jake doesn't get half the credit he deserves, give him a break. If he can come back to form in 2008, then tell Brett Farve to stay the hell out of Charlotte.

Posted by: Matt | Jul 8, 2008 9:26:42 AM

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