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September 30, 2008

Panthers add OT to practice squad

The Panthers signed offensive tackle Jonathan Palmer to their practice squad Tuesday and released fullback Billy Latsko. The addition of Palmer -- an undrafted free agent in 2007 out of Auburn who spent time with Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Oakland last season -- will give the Panthers' injury-plagued offensive line more bodies to practice with this week. Tackle Jordan Gross (concussion) will probably miss Sunday's game with Kansas City and tackle Jeff Otah had to leave last week's victory against Atlanta with a sprained ankle. -- David Scott

Posted by Observer Sports on September 30, 2008 at 09:08 PM | Permalink


What? what about Milford Brown?

Posted by: paul | Sep 30, 2008 9:25:31 PM

Brown was signed to the Jaguars before or just after the start of the season as a result of all the injuries to their interior O-line. This isn't to take a lineup spot on Sunday. That order would fall to Omiyale or Hangartner (depending on whether they think it would be better to give Wharton a full week of work at LT or leave him at guard.)

Posted by: Michael Procton | Sep 30, 2008 9:56:43 PM

Depending on how much PS eligibility Palmer's got left, though, he could be an interesting guy. He could be seen as a very poor man's Jeff Otah: huge, strong, great in small spaces where he can use his power blocking, but poor mobility/flexibility. He does have experience at all three OL spots (C, G, T) from his Auburn days, though, and that kind of versatility is valued by our staff. Unlikely to stick around, yes, but he has made a 53-man roster (Oakland, week 17 last year.)

Posted by: Michael Procton | Sep 30, 2008 10:15:34 PM

So will Jeff Otah play or not? Your engrish failed and never said whether or not he will play.

Posted by: Revshawn | Sep 30, 2008 11:59:05 PM

So will Jeff Otah play or not? Your engrish failed and never said whether or not he will play.

Posted by: Revshawn | Sep 30, 2008 11:59:44 PM

That Billy Latsko guy doesn't catch any breaks, does he? Then again, he does make the practice squad. That is better than most.

Posted by: Keeping it Real | Oct 1, 2008 3:30:40 AM

Of course Procton would be the expert on the Jonathan Palmer

Posted by: matt | Oct 1, 2008 8:18:50 AM

I love how this paper and others always says "they have been searching for that second receiver since 2005." They had a good one 2 years ago. He caught 70 passes for 815 yards, 4 TD's. Just because the local media does not like him did not make him a bad second receiver. By the way, I am talking about Keyshawn.

Posted by: Steven | Oct 1, 2008 10:36:41 AM

I think the local media liked Keyshawn as he was always good for a quote or two. I don't think Fox particularly liked him and felt that he would be a bad influence on Jarret. I have an old college friend who worked for the Panther's PR department back in 2005. He said some guys in the locker room were not all that fond of Keyshawn. I liked him though and felt it was a mistake to cut him. Glad we have Moose back now though.

Posted by: Mason | Oct 1, 2008 11:54:37 AM

Procton, can you tell everyone what Palmer had for diner and his shoe size.?

Posted by: jeff | Oct 1, 2008 1:01:11 PM


You know I like you well enough. (Not a Procton Hater) But I was curious as to your thoughts on the last game. I didn't see any post by you. Also, what are your thoughts on Peppers and Otah and D-Will so far?
I feel all three have been very solid and wanted to know if you agree.

Posted by: rawjem | Oct 1, 2008 1:59:11 PM

Another thing, from the David Scott's article. Ryne Robinson has never done anything to receive all this credit. Mark Jones has done a solid job. This is a case of the grass on the other side.

Posted by: Steven | Oct 1, 2008 2:04:01 PM

I wouldn't worry much about what Procton says or quite frankly about this OT. Barring massive shannanigance the likes of which we have never seen before, he will never see the football field to begin with.

Also, I did a little research and I happened upon a article on Carolina Growl where a reporter had a talk to Ryan Kalil about the Carolina false start penalties. He's telling us that the reason we have them is because he gets the snap to Jake Delhomme late during the snap count.

Interesting proposition isn't it? Very believable as well. Perhaps this problem isn't as big as we thought it was.

Posted by: Revshawn | Oct 1, 2008 2:04:35 PM

Steven, thank you for pointing that out. As a matter of fact, Drew Carter was looking great last year at the begginning of the season. Hey, but wasn't Jake looking good too? Hmmmm.... I wonder if that's related.

Posted by: Keeping it Real | Oct 1, 2008 6:04:56 PM

rj, I think it was an exceptionally sloppy game. We don't win a game we play like that against a good team. The run game was very weak, and we didn't really get any pressure on Ryan until the game was already over. We need all those things to be a contender to go far.

Peppers: he's doing the same thing he always does...making decent plays a couple times every few games, but he's done it against a BACKUP OT EVERY game. An above-average DE should have at least a sack a game against that kind of competition (see Abraham, John and his 6 sacks through three games.)

Otah: He's everything he was supposed to be: big. He can create holes when he gets a chance to go one-on-one in the run game, but he's had more than his fair share of rookie mistakes and gets beat in pass pro more than a little bit. Furthermore, he's having the same kind of ankle issues that lingered for nearly six months before he could get on the field for us after the draft.

Williams: Again, just what I thought he was. When the blocking's good or he runs to the outside, he can have some decent runs. When there's nothing there, though, he gets just that--nothing. He takes 3-yard losses when Stewart would manage a 2-3-yard gain. Further, when he meets contact, he falls. Stewart runs over the first defender he meets. THAT's the kind of back that will succeed in a smashmouth offense.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Oct 1, 2008 11:55:51 PM

And exactly how many sacks did Abraham,John get Sunday? Our O-line reshuffled twice in that game and he never got close enough to sniff Jake's farts. Come off this Peppers isn't elite crap and admit that without Pep in there being his disruptive self we would be 0-4 right now.

Posted by: heelzrule | Oct 2, 2008 12:46:56 PM

Man I hate to double post but here goes:
Another point in your post Procton says, "The run game was very weak, and we didn't really get any pressure on Ryan until the game was already over."
The run game kept the defense honest, allowing Jake to at times pick apart Atlanta's D, there were also a few big run plays, by both backs. In the NFL you get a lead and then put the other team in favorable situations for your defense, make them become one-diminsional, and then pin your ears back and go after the QB. We were finally able to do just that against Atlanta. And you call it pressure when the game is over.
Sorry for the double post again.

Posted by: heelzrule | Oct 2, 2008 12:56:30 PM

Has Otah allowed a sack yet this year?

Posted by: Mason | Oct 2, 2008 1:55:34 PM

hr, we didn't even go for 110 yards against a team that came into the game ranked in the bottom ten teams in the league against the run. Once we had put the game away and the Falcons had no choice to pass, yes, they got pressure on the QB. But if we can't do that BEFORE the game's been decided, we're not going to win consistently.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Oct 2, 2008 6:57:48 PM

I seem to remember the D putting pressure on Ryan on the very 1st play of the game and not letting up much all day. 1st play pick-six and a blown call by Hoculii(sp?).

Posted by: heelzrule | Oct 2, 2008 9:31:45 PM

Again, it wasn't a blown call. When Peppers puts his HELMET into the QB's FACE, it's a penalty. The "best defensive player in the NFL" should know this.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Oct 3, 2008 1:04:22 AM

i wrote a very harsh review of the game but after looking at the replay again it was a pretty dominant game by the panthers.it could have easily been 34-6.the off line really pass protected well and we ran just well enough to set up the play action. we have got to get stewart more carries and then bring in dwill when the def is tired.
we got some good pressure on the q.b and pep was on.we have a lot of depth which is crucial.we just need to tweak some things.lose the penalties.it seems like were building something up and getting a little better every week.

Posted by: ray | Oct 3, 2008 11:29:00 AM

OMG Pep turned his head to try to avoid any helmet contact, which there was only minimum contact at all. Like Pep said after the game, It's football, sometimes helmets hit each other. Anytime the Panthers breath on an Atlanta QB we get flagged and fined.

Posted by: heelzrule | Oct 3, 2008 7:01:10 PM

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