September 28, 2008
Postgame questions answered
Q. Why is McCown closing out the game? And why did they get a bad snap penalty on a kneel down??
McCown closed the game to make sure Delhomme didn't further hurt his leg. Delhomme took a knee to his quad in the first quarter, but says it's OK. I asked Ryan Kalil about the snap, but he didn't want to talk about it. I'm sure it's not the kind of thing that would have happened on a play that meant something.
Q. Why do we continue calling draws and screens on 3rd and long?
Remember the sack, fumble and touchdown last week against Minnesota? That was a third down and the Panthers were obviously NOT calling a draw or a screen. Maybe they should have. Bad things can happen on all kinds of calls. Watch some other games next week and see how many other teams also call draws and screens on third down -- it might surprise you!
Q. How long are we going to have suffer through Crossman's tenure as Special Teams coach? Last year, our special teams play was atrocious, and this year it only seem better because of Jones, Stewart and our kick-off specialist. Coverage is still awful, though, and mistakes seem to be the rule rather than the exception.
A. You're right. If there was a downside to this game, special teams was it. A dropped snap, a blocked punt, little in return yardage...not a good day.
Posted by Observer Sports on September 28, 2008 at 07:39 PM | Permalink
Can you tell me who was listed as inactive for the game per coach's decision? Thanks.
Posted by: Will | Sep 28, 2008 8:17:38 PM
This was halarious!----
Somebody asks Muhammad if it is gratifying to be “the guy.”
“I am not the guy by any means,” he says. “Smitty…is the guy, he’s definitely the guy. I’m the co-host.”
So he’s not Yoda. He’s Kelly Ripa.
Posted by: Keeping it Real | Sep 28, 2008 8:42:27 PM
Its not just the draws on 3rd and long, its just the play calling that's crazy. I understand you have to keep defenders guessing but how do you call for a long pass on 3rd and 2 and then draw plays and screens on 3rd and 9 and 3rd and 11? Just crazy... If we had been playing a better team, that missed play on 3rd and 2 would surely have come back to haunt us. You should only do that if you are prepared to go for it on 4th and 2.
Posted by: superlucchic | Sep 28, 2008 9:33:21 PM
Why call screens and draws on 3rd and long? So that some yardage can be earned back without risking a turnover, especially inside our own half.
I'd rather see us punt away from our 15/20 then work on getting the ball back than a long heave from our 10 and having the ball intercepted at midfield by one of 5-6 DBs opponents will have on the field for yardage situations like that. Sometimes, punting IS indeed better.
Also to be taken into consideration on situations like that is how our D is holding up. If they're playing fine and thwarting their offense, then definitely keep it conservative. If we're up against an opponent picking up yardage at will, then I say go for the big play.
Posted by: Derek | Sep 28, 2008 10:09:35 PM
CROSSMAN NEEDS TO HIT TE ROAD!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Michael Bolton | Sep 29, 2008 12:26:53 AM
Play calling was definitely better the 2nd half
Posted by: jake the snake | Sep 29, 2008 1:16:20 AM
Good win for the Panthers today. Just a couple of comments. Special Teams continue to be the worst performing part of this team. They stunk last year and they are not good this year. Danny Crossman really has to go. Jake had a GREAT game today. Where are all the Jake haters today??????
One more thing...we have GOT to cure the penalty problem. We got away with it against the Falcons....it will kill us against a good team.
Posted by: tc | Sep 29, 2008 1:18:07 AM
yeah, Jake finally showed up. I guess that means we have to rewrite history now, right? YES, HE HAD A BRILLIANT GAME. It was very reminiscent of last year. That doesn't take away from the fact that he was stinking the place up the first three games (and for years before that). But hey, it looks like he might have finally gotten into a groove. Wait... does one good game constitute "getting into a groove?"
Frankly, it doesn't matter if he breaks Brady records this year, it does not take away from what the "Jake haters" have been basing their comments on. So do us all a favor and "keep it real." Thanks.
For the record, I don't hate the guy. It's exactly the opposite of my feelings for Smith. He seems like a pretty cool cat, but I don't care for his mistakes on the field. But hopefully, that will be a thing of the past. Just being just and fair; savvy?
Oh, BTW, I love how Moose racks up 147 yards and a TD and Steve Smith is still the center of attention. No wonder this guy has ego problems. I'm so glad Moose doesn't have those kind of hang ups. Who says all NFL WR's are ego maniacs.
Posted by: Keeping it Real | Sep 29, 2008 4:06:42 AM
Jake has played well in 3 of 4 games this year, not just this one.
Posted by: Billy | Sep 29, 2008 6:48:01 AM
Smith gets attention because he is arguably the best wideout in the NFL.
Also, Peppers was back, at least for that game. He was all over the place and was close to having about 3 sacks and that penalty on him was total b.s. and I think there is only 1 ref in the NFL who would have called it.
And Fox......get this oline to stop with the penalties.
but overall the oline did great, allowing 0 sacks.
Posted by: matt | Sep 29, 2008 8:48:39 AM
Yes, even though he had less than 200 YPG and 57% completion rate, 9 sacks, 1 TD - 1 INT, and 3 fumbles in the first 3 games(including one taken back for a TD), Jake absolutely played like one of the elite for the first 3 weeks. Get serious.
Look, I think we are a better team with him at the moment (I think we saw the alternative last year), but don't delude yourself. Jake is a serviceable QB who thrives in high pressure situations. He gets a lot of 4th quarter comebacks, but he can't carry us in a game we should easily win if his life depends on it. It speaks volumes that every time Carolina goes into the 4th quarter either tied or slightly behind I am confident we will win, but if we take a lead into the 4th quarter I can almost FEEL that untimely INT or fumble before it happens. The man is going to be personally responsible for the heart attack that kills me, I would bet on it.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 29, 2008 8:53:48 AM
who said Jake was elite?
we are 3-1 this season with him at the qb, he knows these receivers and this offense better than anyone.
And the Panthers were supposed to easily win yesterday, and while the defense made it possible, Jake did his share to ensure we won easily.
Posted by: matt | Sep 29, 2008 9:04:51 AM
We lost 13 points due to penalties. If not for those, the score would have been 34-6.
Posted by: LyleStyle | Sep 29, 2008 10:20:45 AM
no it wouldn't have been
Posted by: m | Sep 29, 2008 11:00:17 AM
they look pretty awesome this year with exception to all the penalties. if we're winning it doesn't matter so much, but this ridiculous amount of penalties is what makes the panthers good instead of outstanding. great teams refuse to let penalties be a factor...it's stupid the coaching staff is letting such an unnecessary thing continue to nag the team!
Posted by: joe | Sep 29, 2008 11:44:15 AM
blah,blah, blah Jake Sucks, Blah blah blah. What a bunch of blithering idiots.
Posted by: crazy | Sep 29, 2008 12:58:31 PM
its time to put the koolade down folks. this was simply an average team beating a bad team.
1.special teams are atrocious.2 blocked punts in 4 games.fire crossman.
2.falcons dropped 6 passes,negating 4 first downs.damn you fox /trdo and your soft zone.
3.jake has got to be the all time leader in tipped passes.and 50 fumbles since 2003
4.no pass rush.
5.we didnt run well and atlanta did.
6.panthers screens are a joke.
7.tight ends and hackett werent involved,and jarret isnt even suiting up.
Posted by: ray | Sep 29, 2008 2:29:26 PM
4) No Pass rush - I would bet that Ryan disagrees with you there. Peppers alone put Ryan on his butt several times and Ryan did mostly quick 3 step drops.
5) We didn't run well and atlanta did - Umm, besides the one Norwood run for 40 yards or so, they did nothing on the ground. Turner, the leading rusher in the NFL entering the game, had 55 yards or so.
7) Tight ends caught a couple of passes, hard to do too much when Smith and Moose are comnbining for nearly 300 yards receiving. Speaking of which, do we currently need Jarret suiting up if we have a healthy Moose and Steve w/ Hackett as our 3rd receiver, espicially considering Fox rarely runs more than a 3 wide receiver set?
Posted by: Mason | Sep 29, 2008 3:19:26 PM
Ray, thanks for pointing out the tipped passes. That's something I avoided bringing up intentionally, because it's a strategic matter. I didn't want it to become an issue and have other teams hone in on it. I would say that's a moot point by now.
They used to work on mechanics Before Fox got here. From what I remember, Weinke was using a ladder as a guage of how much he should arc his throws. If I'm not mistaking, didn't he bring in the mentatlity of the offense conforming to your QB's abilities and allowing them to be more naturally with what they do?
I know it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, but that does need to be addressed. I really think fixing that would resolve many of his other issues as well (ie. stepping into the pocket to make a throw = less sacks = more time to get open, ect.).
Posted by: Keeping it Real | Sep 29, 2008 5:03:14 PM
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