October 05, 2008
Someone posted earlier injuries to Smith, Williams, Hackett (not to worried), and Stewart. Please verify and substantiate? What degree are they currently at? Thanks. -- Carolina Wild
CW: Smith, Stewart and Williams seem to be OK. We won't know about Hackett until maybe tomorrow. Ryan Kalil also left the game with a turned ankle. We'll see about that. Offensive line certainly doesn't need any more injuries. -- David
What are the odds we might keep Mark Jones around? The guy's tearing it up on punt returns and he contributes as a wideout on a big third down play after Hackett got injured. In your opinion is Ryne Robinson capable of doing the same on a consistent basis? -- Neil
Neil: There's not much to chose between Jones and Ryne Robinson, stats wise. Neither are very flashy, but Jones has at least been solid (except for that weird off-the-leg thing against San Diego). I'd wonder if Robinson has an edge because he can return kickoffs, and that would mean Jonathan Stewart wouldn't have to do that anymore. -- David
Anyway, all in all I think the Panthers played a great game. How bout that defence? Of course it was against the Chiefs....but good god was that awesome. -- Revshawn
Revshawn: First shutout since '06, no TDs since third quarter of Minnesota game. Quite a performance. -- David
What do you think of Frank Omiyale's first start? In for Jorden Gross I think he did a great job. -- Nick
Nick: Omiyale was part of a group that didn't allow a sack and helped Williams and Stewart have big days. Only one false start, too. A good move to play him there rather than move Wharton over from guard, which might have disrupted continuity at that position. -- David
I can't believe fox shaved points!! at the end and ran that play on 4th down. Not that I am saying we should have tried to throw one in the endzone and run up the score!...but you have to kick the FG! it's the right play! He did that because hermon and him are good friends! but sorry that was classless!!! to the players and the NFL! fox!! I don't care if your mother is on the other sideline! running that dive on 4th and 9 was fox saying "hey herm we are friends so here is the ball to try to get a score and get your young players some confidence" sorry you can't do that in the NFL!! u just can't! it's wrong! and goes against everything sports stands for! it's no different than shaving points!! Why not put Loyds out there and let him attempt a FG I mean if kasey is hurt.....Loyds is going to be the one kicking FG's I'm sure...so....come on fox..i mean i understand pulling the starters and the run run run punt..thing to get the game over but in FG range you can't do that! you can't give the other team the ball because the coach is your good friend...sorry...no other coach in the nfl would have done that!! that's some BS!!! -- Cheven
Cheven: Whatever, man. -- David
Posted by Observer Sports on October 5, 2008 at 07:14 PM | Permalink
Either you are on too much medication or not enough...not sure which one? What the hell was that? That is above a rant...whatever that is, oh yeah pyschotic. David, your response was much more diplomatic than mine. LOL.
Posted by: dan | Oct 5, 2008 7:31:24 PM
Come on man there was no need to run up the score even more the game is over. If you ask me it is actually classy to do what he did. What did it hurt? They already made them look stupid what you want to add insult to injury come on. Your a moron.
Posted by: Donald C. Maltba | Oct 5, 2008 7:40:46 PM
SOMEONE please tel me I dont have to worry bout our Panthers becuz of INJURIES?
Posted by: paul | Oct 5, 2008 7:53:59 PM
You dont have to worry bout our Pathers becuz of INJURIES.
Posted by: someone | Oct 5, 2008 8:23:04 PM
Cheven you are one of the most ignorant fans in the history of organized professional sports...do everyone a favor and quit posting...and quit calling in to WFNZ, you are an idiot
Posted by: yep | Oct 5, 2008 8:45:04 PM
i guess loyalty and friendship is worthless nowadays
Posted by: jake the snake | Oct 5, 2008 9:04:53 PM
Loyalty and friendship, but don't forget class and sportsmanship. Those are pretty worthless too.
Posted by: KCPanther | Oct 5, 2008 9:14:46 PM
I'm as against running up the score as anybody, but it would be nice to see what Lloyd can do on field goals. Is it too soon to call Hackett a bust? I guess the Panthers didn't pay too much for him, but I think Jarrett could contribute as much as him as a receiver (if he would just learn to play Special Teams, too)
Posted by: jeff | Oct 5, 2008 9:25:44 PM
I forgot to give props earlier today to Frank Omlayaya for a job well done. I hope this affects the ongoing contract negotiations between the team and Jeff Mitchell's protige, Jordan Gross.
Posted by: Keeping It Real | Oct 5, 2008 9:37:40 PM
Cheven is just hilarious. The Panthers completely blow out the Chiefs and he still finds something to cry about. You could fill a moat with his tears.
And so the Panthers move to 4-1. Isn't that relaxing to say? The Carolina Panthers have four wins and one loss. Now next week we go up against the Bucs and we'll be 5 and 1 as long as we actually score some points. Our defense will crush their offense.
Posted by: Revshawn | Oct 5, 2008 9:47:43 PM
The one thing I will say is that if we kick a field goal there, when KC gets 4th and 1 at the 20ish they would also kick the field goal so their team doesnt get shut out. John didnt want to run the score up against herm and herm wasnt going to take a cheap FG to not get shut out.
Posted by: Billy | Oct 5, 2008 9:58:21 PM
"Whatever, man." LOL
Posted by: Justin | Oct 6, 2008 12:17:47 AM
Even though Cheven was ranting and raving, he is somewhat right. I was just as perplexed at the running play on 4th and 8 as anyone. If you decide to go for it on 4th and 8, why run the ball??? It doesn't run the clock any more than an incomplete pass would, because the clock stops at the turnover on downs. An interception doesn't matter because it's a turnover on downs anyways, and in reality a 20 yard interception would be better than a 4 yard run. Both are turnovers and the interception gives us better field position. It'd be the same as a 20 yard pooch punt anyways.
If you're that against the pass, or McCown throwing the ball, or running up the score, than fine, don't go for it on 4th down and pooch a punt or try a field goal. But for the life of me I can't see one reason why you would run the ball on 4th and 8. Strange call by Fox in an otherwise perfect game.
Posted by: Christian | Oct 6, 2008 12:54:38 AM
Christian, that's why Fox is coaching and you and Cheven are sitting on the sidelines watching and whining.
Posted by: DBIGCAT | Oct 6, 2008 7:56:41 AM
what was so different about the hit Peppers but on Ryan last week and the one that Trent Edwards took this week. i don't understand the game.
Posted by: panta4life | Oct 6, 2008 11:25:29 AM
Dave: The only concern *I* have at this point is that Jake's surgery seems to have been so successful that he's overthrowing his WR's too many times a game. Maybe he needs to go to a 7 or 9 step drop to give them time, and to give himself a bit more distance! LOL
Posted by: DR | Oct 6, 2008 11:26:16 AM
DBIGCAT, you made absolutely no point with that statement. I'm not whining about anything, I thought Fox coached a good game, I'm just wandering what strategical sense that play made, if any. It's not even a question of being conservative, it just didn't make sense.
Posted by: Christian | Oct 6, 2008 12:36:01 PM
I know why we didn't throw the ball on 4th down. Fox had already seen Smith get a cheap shot on the sidelines. He did not what anyone else hurt. Besides Cheven losing points on Kasey on your Fantasy team is not worth all this fuss. LOL
Posted by: Beaston Fan | Oct 6, 2008 12:38:01 PM
Is anyone, other than myself, annoyed at the lack of national coverage for the panthers? According to NFL.com the panthers are 2nd behind in the NFC behind the Giants. But ESPN main focus is the Colts and Chargers.
Posted by: JB | Oct 6, 2008 2:38:32 PM
hey keeping it real jeff mitchell was a center not an offensive tackle
Posted by: pnthrfan | Oct 6, 2008 3:01:14 PM
I know what u mean about the coverage of the Panthers JB but the Panthers do seem to do better when they're not getting hyped up so maybe it's better this way.
Posted by: pnthrfan | Oct 6, 2008 3:04:31 PM
LOL. Keeping it real's mouth and foot must be real sore.... When will she ever learn? If you weren't such a pompous a@@ this wouldn't even be an issue....but hey, IT IS WHAT IT IS. lmao
Posted by: dan | Oct 6, 2008 6:29:46 PM
The lack of coverage or hype for the Panthers is actually a good thing. We're the Panthers! You know, big large stealthy cats that like to sneak up on their prey and then savage them? If we've got everyone tooting their horns about us, it kind of clashes with that whole metaphor. ;-)
Posted by: NSpicer | Oct 7, 2008 7:24:24 AM
Beaston Fan - As opposed to risking another offensive lineman injury by running it despite 8 to 9 defenders being in the box???
One of the most overlooked downsides of a run first offense is that trying to establish a running game despite the defense being stacked against it really risks injuries to offensive linemen. There are less wholes and more instances of running backs, defenders, and other o-linemen running into and falling on peoples legs and knees being turned. That's what happened to Otah, and Jake needs to audible more into play-action and other passing plays when he sees the defense stack the box. Otherwise we're going to see more and more lineman go down with injuries, ie. Kalil, Gross.
Posted by: Christian | Oct 7, 2008 10:57:51 AM
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