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December 23, 2008

Gibson lost for the season

The Panthers' depth at defensive line took another hit Tuesday when the team placed backup tackle Gary Gibson on injured reserve. Gibson, who has an injured hand, will miss the rest of the season.

They signed defensive tackle J'Vonne Parker today to replace Gibson. Parker has been on the Atlanta Falcons' practice squad this season and was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Cleveland Browns in 2005. Parker, who has played 11 games in his NFL career, played college ball at Rutgers and was born in Roanoke Rapids.

Starting tackle Maake Kemoeatu missed Sunday's game at the New York Giants with an ankle injury and tackle Damione Lewis hurt his shoulder during the 34-28 overtime loss. The status of Kemoeatu and Lewis for next Sunday's game at New Orleans is uncertain.

The Panthers also signed defensive tackle Lorenzo Williams, a rookie from Missouri, to their practice squad. -- David Scott

Posted by Observer Sports on December 23, 2008 at 05:54 PM | Permalink


Parker has nothing to do with depth, and everything to do with a probable divisional playoff game against Atlanta. Shrewd move by Hurney and Fox... coaches like Belichick and Fisher do this all the time. Considering Santa could probably run for a buck fifty against us right now, any tendencies this guy has as to what Mike Turner likes to do could prove to be very helpful.

Posted by: Kris | Dec 23, 2008 6:13:52 PM


Posted by: bull123 | Dec 23, 2008 6:16:18 PM

Morehead is burning it up for the Falcons right now. Wonder why we didn't keep him given Jenkins exit?

Posted by: jeff | Dec 23, 2008 6:46:22 PM

kris were not playing atlanta this week

Posted by: right said fred | Dec 23, 2008 6:59:53 PM

I think Kris is talkin about a potential matchup with the Falcons. A recent Atlanta player may have some insight on what they are trying to do, and give us an edge up in the playoffs. I think that's what he meant anyway.

Posted by: Scott | Dec 23, 2008 7:13:40 PM

I was talking about a playoff matchup with Atlanta. We're likely to see them either way (whether here or in ATL) in the second round, as whichever of us gets the #5 seed should beat Arizona easily, and I'd expect Dallas to dispatch whoever wins the NFC North in the first round.

It's just forward thinking by Fox/Hurney, and again, the best coaches in the league (Belichick, Fisher, Coughlin, Jimmy Johnson) do this thing all the time. It may mean absolutely nothing, but with the likelihood of playing the Falcons in three weeks and our lack of rush defense at the moment, I'll take whatever help we can get.

Posted by: kris | Dec 23, 2008 7:40:10 PM

Parker is about 50 lbs heavier than Gibson. Parker is probably fresh and eager to make an impact. Might be a good pickup.

Posted by: jeff | Dec 23, 2008 7:44:33 PM

Does anyone realize that the Panthers were one gust of wind from beating the Giants. If Kasays kick goes in then the sentiment would be totally different on these blogs. The overtime showed everybody that this defense has real issues, aside from any injuries. Does anybody think that this defense is capable of making it through the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl? We all know that when the Panthers are winning they are reluctant to make adjustments. Hopefully this loss with put the spotlight on Turgo and get him in gear to finally address the defensive issues.

Posted by: jeff | Dec 23, 2008 8:00:12 PM

Jeff--- ya damn skimpy I think they can make it through the playoffs!!! Not only did they run a basic offense against the Giants, they ran a basic defense too! More blitzing would help compensate for the lack of pentration (and hopefully even ability to stop the run) by the d-line. Couple that by the fact that this offense will look completely different when they open things up, and I have to say duh!!! Of course they have a chance. A damned good one, Skippy!!!

Posted by: Keeping It Real | Dec 23, 2008 9:30:14 PM

Who took Keydric Vincent's place on the roster last week after he was put on IR?

Posted by: Keeping It Real | Dec 23, 2008 9:35:30 PM

They brought up DT Nick Hayden from the practice squad.

Posted by: Observer Sports | Dec 23, 2008 9:55:51 PM

I disagree with you on "blitzing more would compensate for the lack of penetration (and hopefully even ability to stop the run) by the d-line." Blitzing is a good thing but it certainly isn't a cure all. When you blitz you leave the secondary in single coverage mostly and unless you do get the pressure on the ball handler you have a great chance of getting torched for a huge gain, if not a quick score. Keep in mind Kemo was out for the Giants' game and we lost a ton of size inside due to this. We've done pretty well against the run for the most part this season. Especially at the beginning. I think our biggest weakness on D is our pass coverage. We play so much zone that on almost every pass the WR is catching in pure space with our DBs or LBs having to close on him, usually for a nice gain.

But I totally agree that we can do some serious damage in the playoffs. I'm not too bummed by the loss to the Giants. We owned them for most of the game and finished by playing not to lose instead of playing to win. (IMO) Even with that it took a huge gust of wind to knock Kasay's kick off. I do like the fact that our history shows we play the rematch game extremely well when the playoffs come around, i.e. Dallas ('03), Philly ('03), Chicago ('05). Let's hope Giants ('08), if it comes to that, works out as well.

Posted by: David I | Dec 23, 2008 11:40:15 PM

I was at the Giants game Sunday, sitting in the end-zone.. Kasay's kick was right down the middle.. Then I looked up and the flags on the goal-posts, went straight to my right.. and that is where Kasay's kick went also.. great game, coldest game I have ever been too.. The Giant fans were great to us, as we walked around the tailgates.. They gave us beer, and of course, the proverbial 'You suck'...lol

Posted by: Catsnmbr1fan | Dec 24, 2008 12:01:40 AM

Anybody remember 06 Colts. Couldn't stop a soul in the season, but once playoffs came their Defense looked like they was number 1. Straight superbowl win

I'm not worried about our run defense in playoffs. They will be fine. People keep forgetting Maake & Lewis was out. ONLY reason Giants ran like that. My only concern is our passing defense. If we dont start bump and running like back in 05, we might be going home

Posted by: jake the snake | Dec 24, 2008 12:45:12 AM

David, that is a real good point about the risk of running blitzes, but I would have taken the risk (using run & zone blitzes regularly), especially if I thought the QB couldn't handle the pressure. The great news is that they didn't have to take that risk (or any risk) and still could have come out with a win (not to forget having two key losses concerning the run game on both sides). Mt. Kemo should be back for the playoffs and that will help things greatly.

I also think we will see the play calling get more exciting in a couple of weeks too. There will be more blitzes called (with more man coverages) on defense. On offense, you will see more passes to the backs (they may have matched a season total to them in one game last week) and I think they will bring in 4WR in to mix things up as well. Just imagine what the Bruise Brothers can do if the defensive backfield gets cleared out in the middle! Also, Barnidge still hasn't gotten the opportunity to flash his catching ability, even though he's been activated for games. Watch for him to make a huge TD catch from the read zone using a play-action pass.

Win or lose against the Saints this week, I can't wait for the Panthers to get the playoffs rolling!


Posted by: Keeping It Real | Dec 24, 2008 2:25:04 AM

Such great optimism! Too bad shakey Delhomme has not proved to be effective when the running game doesnt get going. Too bad Fox still shows his playing not to loose attitude reflected in the play calling. Too bad Trgovac plays a zone defense & doesnt show aggression. Too bad Lucas is a serious liability along with Gamble who looked terrible since signing his big contract & the rookie has not made the kind of impact expected. Too bad they let the best DT on the roster go to the Jets this year. Too bad Beason has not looked nearly as effective as he has when he has a huge DT taking up blocks. Thank goodness for Williams/Stewart & Smith on O and Chris Harris on D.

Posted by: keepingitreal=sypris | Dec 24, 2008 6:45:38 AM

I can understand why you guys might think Parker's likely just here to help with scheming for a potential divisional-round game against the Falcons, but I doubt the staff is looking that far ahead. He's a big guy, but he's got a good motor and mobility for his size. Atlanta actually started him in a preseason game when they were thin at DT this year, and he showed well.

KIR, the reason Barnidge hasn't gotten much of a chance on offense is his lack of ability as a blocker in the run game. Just like Rosario, he's most effective split out, and that limits a lot of what we could run or audible into as an offense when he's on the field.

kir=s, you're totally wrong about Delhomme. Look at the Arizona game. We had only 113 yards rushing, and Stewart was struggling with his toe. Down 14, it was the Delhomme-Smith connection that brought us to the win, and Delhomme finished with a line of 20-28 (75%) for 248 with 2 TDs and no picks. That's a QB rating of 122!

Gamble has also looked just fine since his contract. Hell, he's played well enough to help us to a 3-1 record over the four games since. Look at the best QB-WR combo we've faced in that stretch: Cutler to Marshall produced only 5-48, with only 3-17 after the half.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Dec 24, 2008 9:31:23 AM

how many rushing yards does d-will have this season? I think he will pass stephen davis' 1441. he should be close.

Posted by: tj | Dec 24, 2008 10:16:34 AM

It's probably also worth noting that this means three of our top four DTs were out or, in the case of Gibson, playing through severe injury against the Giants by the end of the game. Not an excuse, but a reason for our poor performance against the run.

TJ, it'll take a strong game. At 1337, he needs 105 yards to take the team record over, and even if the game gets in hand, they may try and play Stewart more to avoid injury to Williams.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Dec 24, 2008 10:32:47 AM

micheal, true about giving stew more carries, I found the stats and the top 4 rushes in yardage are from the nfc, williams is 4th in the nfl, .6 yards more per carry than peterson and has not FUMBLED all season! thats amazing and he did not make the pro bowl. not that i relly care but he should get credit.

Posted by: tj | Dec 24, 2008 10:46:31 AM

It's probably also worth noting that this means three of our top four DTs were out or, in the case of Gibson, playing through severe injury against the Giants by the end of the game. Not an excuse, but a reason for our poor performance against the run.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Dec 24, 2008 11:31:11 AM

This may explain a few things. Turgovac played at Michigan for Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr during which time Michigan merely showed up and won 9 of 10 games. Maybe Ohio State was some competition, maybe ND(Jerry Faust era). Bo and Lloyd were no frills, no trick plays, nothing but line up and beat someone. It worked because they had the talent and they got to play Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois every year.
Trgovac has tried to imploy this strategy to the pros, it works if he has the talent and nobody is hurt, a couple of injuries in key spots and the wheels start coming off.
I'd like to think that defensively we are going to open things up but I am afraid that it's not in Turgies DNA. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE prove me wrong.

Posted by: jeff | Dec 24, 2008 11:55:36 AM

This DT situation is scary. I just hope that Kemo and Lewis will be ok for the long playoff run, starting on the road in Chicago.

Posted by: Wayne D | Dec 24, 2008 11:59:28 AM

Jeff, the bend-but-don't-break defense has been a staple of the Panthers since Fox got here. They'd rather give up big drives and field goals as opposed to quick big plays.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Dec 24, 2008 12:41:43 PM

I know, it is so hard to watch sometimes like Sunday night. I would rather have a Jim Johnson/Dick LeBeau type of mindset. WE are going to dictate what YOU are going to do, not we are just going to sit back, react and hope you make a mistake.

Posted by: jeff | Dec 24, 2008 2:29:16 PM

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