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February 19, 2009

Gross breakdown, combine talk

A few notes on the Jordan Gross deal and other items from the NFL Scouting Combine:

(x) Sources say thet six-year contract totals just under $60 million and is significantly front-loaded, paying Gross $30.5 million in the first three seasons. That's the most any offensive lineman has ever been paid in a three-year period. Also, Gross' deal trumps the five-year, $40 million contract  the New York Jets gave guard Alan Faneca last year as the richest ever for a veteran offensive lineman.

(x) Word here in Indianapolis is that the Atlanta Falcons may be the leading contender to sign Tennessee Titans all-pro defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. If that happens, watch out. The Falcons are plenty good already.

(x) Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano didn't want to talk about Julius Peppers today, saying he doesn't discuss free agents from other teams. The Dolphins are among the teams who play a 3-4 defense and may be of interest to Peppers. All Sparano would say is that more teams are switching to the 3-4, thus creating more job opportunities in that scheme.

(x) Stay tuned here for comments upcoming from Panthers general manager Marty Hurney's upcoming conference call with reporters.

-- Charles Chandler

Posted by Observer Sports on February 19, 2009 at 02:55 PM | Permalink


We really need to make a push for Haynesworth to keep him away from the Falcons.

Posted by: Herdgrad | Feb 19, 2009 3:10:14 PM

Man, if the falcons sign Haynesworth! what's the proper word.... Sh@&$!!!!!!!

Posted by: Panthe R ican | Feb 19, 2009 3:22:14 PM

Not worried about Fat Albert. Once he gets his money, he will shut down

Posted by: Steven | Feb 19, 2009 3:25:23 PM

They've got to do something to stop our running attack and win the NFC South.

Posted by: Ben | Feb 19, 2009 3:29:35 PM

HELL NO WE NEED TO SIGN Albert Haynesworth for real
i see this way Albert Haynesworth is like seen pepper but in the middle !!!!
we need to get him !!!!!

Posted by: Danny | Feb 19, 2009 3:29:51 PM

6 years for just under 60 million...that averages to about 10 million a year, right?

How does 30.5 million over the make it "significantly front-loaded."

It seems very close to 50% to me.

Posted by: tarheelmax | Feb 19, 2009 3:31:45 PM

Getting Haynesworth and Peppers getting the hell out of the NFC South would make me extremely happy.

Posted by: FalconFan | Feb 19, 2009 3:31:58 PM

Do we even have enough cap space to sign haynesworth?

Posted by: JM | Feb 19, 2009 3:35:13 PM

th m, most contracts typically have a good bit more than half of their value available in the back half of the deal. Take Chris Gamble's new deal, for example: once his roster bonus this year is guaranteed and pro-rated, almost $32 million (nearly 60% of the $53 million total) of the money comes in the last three years.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 19, 2009 4:17:55 PM

th m, most contracts contain much more than half of their value in the back half of the deal. Take Chris Gamble's deal, for instance: once his $10 mil roster bonus is guaranteed and pro-rated, around $32 million (or almost 60%) of the $53 million total is available in the last three years of his deal.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 19, 2009 4:22:37 PM

Oh, and it's real unlikely we'd get Haynesworth. We're already paying two guys starting salaries in Lewis and Kemoeatu. It'd be tough to fit a blockbuster deal at that same position in the budget.

Posted by: Michael Procton | Feb 19, 2009 4:23:17 PM


I understand that most deals are BACK-loaded. Most times the last year or two in a long term contract are never suppose to happen (like Peppers deal this last year).

However, a deal that isn't BACK-loaded isn't automatically FRONT-loaded. When a deal is about equal on the front and the back, it's not Front-loaded or Back-loaded, it's equally distributed.

Pick-ups (trucks) are usually front-loaded (their engine is in the front and with nothing in the bed, the back is much lighter than the front). If you add the amount of weight to the back of the truck that it takes for it to equal the front is it back-loaded?

Posted by: tarheelmax | Feb 19, 2009 5:14:20 PM

It would be IMPOSSIBLE to sign Haynesworth until we can trade Peppers first. We dont have the cap space! Why dont people understand this?

Posted by: gengizk | Feb 19, 2009 5:23:37 PM

we just need to get some draft picks, and ship PEP

Posted by: GENE | Feb 19, 2009 9:59:30 PM

i cant believe we gave a 3rd down tackle , lewis all that money.he totally broke down at the end last season.please lord, dont let the falcons get haynesworth.

Posted by: ray | Feb 19, 2009 11:25:30 PM

The reason this is "significantly front-loaded" is due to the fact of how much guaranteed money comes in the first three years. The first report I heard stated that 30.5 mil was guaranteed his first three years, which is significantly front loaded especially if he doesn't pan out for some god forsaken reason. If he gets hurt tomorrow and has to retire (knocking on wood) we will have to pay the 30.5 mil and it will have to count against our cap for three straight years at least and can not be spread out over the six years or wiped off the books without a settlement.

Posted by: JayJ6 | Feb 20, 2009 8:44:37 AM

Guaranteed being the key word here...The $30.5M is guaranteed money...Gross may never see the other $30M...Therefore "Significantly Front-Loaded". And yes it's a $10M hit to the cap for the next three years...

In the immortal words of Captain Jack Sparrow and his first mate Gibbs, "Take What You Can, Give Nothing Back"...
(That's a Pirates of the Carribean reference for all of you who were wondering.)

All that being said, I am damn glad to see the most versatile, durable and valuable OL this team has ever seen still wearing the Panther colors...

Posted by: Capt. Jack Sparrow | Feb 20, 2009 10:03:07 AM

hanesworth is not a threat just stay on on matt ryan

Posted by: phillip | Nov 11, 2009 1:38:10 PM

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