March 20, 2009
Belichick talks Peppers -- unprompted
New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick was interviewed on a Boston radio station on Thursday. He brings up the Julius Peppers situation, without being asked.
That's remarkable in itself, but Belichick also goes on to explain what it would take for a team like the Patriots -- who reportedly have had interest in Peppers -- to go about obtaining a franchised player like Peppers. But Bellichick also stressed the Patriots have not been in trade talks with the Panthers about Peppers.
"They can't trade him without him signing a contract," Belichick says of the Panthers and Peppers. "The best way for him to get on the trade market with Carolina is for him to tell them, I don't want to be be here, but we can't talk to anybody (about a trade) without a signed contract."
Belichick also explained that the Panthers can receive compensation for unrestricted free agent Peppers if he receives and accepts an offer from another team.
-- Free agent tight end Jeff King has accepted the Panthers' one-year tender of $1.545 million. It's a second-round tender, according to King's agent, Rick Smith, meaning the Panthers would have been compensated with a second-round draft choice had King accepted an offer from another team. King was a fifth-round pick in 2005.
-- David Scott
Posted by Observer Sports on March 20, 2009 at 09:35 AM | Permalink
Peppers needs to quit being an ass and sign the contract. Then he can get what he wants...out. I'm sure we'll get something solid for him. He better not be planning to sit out next season if we don't trade him.
Posted by: Trey Griffin | Mar 20, 2009 9:51:00 AM
Let him sit out, it means we don't have to pay him $1 mil a game.
Posted by: pantherfan | Mar 20, 2009 9:55:28 AM
Belichick is trying to spin it on us...They make the trade proposal and then they negotiate a contract, not us.
Once we sign him to a long term contract, we are then backed into a corner.
Posted by: rhackney | Mar 20, 2009 9:58:43 AM
He wasn't talking about signing a long term contract, just the franchise offer (1 year)
Posted by: SSGPat | Mar 20, 2009 10:15:30 AM
The Cheatriots need to pony up the picks and they can have him ,and Pep needs to sign a contract so this could be over...the sooner the better.
Posted by: hellfish | Mar 20, 2009 10:17:47 AM
NOTE TO JULIUS......Find a new Agent!
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 10:37:35 AM
i still think the best deal is for pep and jake to the broncos for cutler.make it happen panthers..pleassssse.
Posted by: tim | Mar 20, 2009 10:38:28 AM
Pep, if you want to be a Patriot, you'd better sign that tender. Then again, once we got that signature, we're shipping you off to the Ottawa Rough Riders for a six-pack of Molson and some Canadian Bacon. Take off eh!
Posted by: gradyhog | Mar 20, 2009 10:38:39 AM
A player cannot be traded unless he is under contract period. Peppers has yet to sign the franchise tag contract. He cannot be traded or have trade talks concerning him, legally, until he signs that contract. Other teams can sign him to an offer sheet and the Panthers have the right to match the offer or receive 2 1st round picks. That is all that can happen at this point. He hasn't signed the contract yet cause he looses all say in where he is traded once he signs a contract.
Posted by: J Thomas | Mar 20, 2009 10:39:15 AM
CORRECTION: NOTE TO JULIUS......Just find an Agent!
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 10:39:25 AM
HINT FOR PEPPERS ?? AGENT...... Owners Meetings!
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 10:41:48 AM
Peppers sitting out a year will hurt the panthers more then it will peppers based of of what he has done in the past and his age. he is very young in the NFL game still.
Posted by: spoony | Mar 20, 2009 10:42:57 AM
He needs to figure out how to get a (sign and trade deal worked out) so he can go and allow us to start our re-building ASAP. He is a great asset to the team but a unhappy player can be more distraction then assistance.
Posted by: spoony | Mar 20, 2009 10:44:46 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots have conspired to keep Peppers off the market until they are in a position to get him.
Would it be considered tampering if they paid his agent not to let him sign the 1 year franchise player contract until they were ready? Thus keeping the Panthers from talking trade with any other teams.
Posted by: chris | Mar 20, 2009 11:15:56 AM
Scoot, I actually think Pep's agent is brilliant. Pep and his agent are in the driver's seat and if we don't get this resolved Pep makes $16.7 mil next season and $1 mil a game. I don't like it anymore than you do, but I gotta admit Pep is gonna win in this situation. Either he gets $16.7 mil from us or goes to a team he wants to play for. We're screwed either way, unless we get a first rounder for him.
Posted by: John | Mar 20, 2009 11:24:43 AM
Hey Pep... Bucs fan here; thanks for doing this for us. Please don't sign the contract b/c I don't the Panthers to trade you for Jay Cutler.
Posted by: Buc Fan | Mar 20, 2009 11:37:57 AM
It is his agent who nas convinced him to leave,for every million more he gets the agent gets $100,000.Julius, your agent is getting you in a position that nobody will want you.
Posted by: cat lover | Mar 20, 2009 11:53:36 AM
John, If you read the most recent Agent comments he is clearly in over his head and has backed himself and his Client into a corner. The $16.7 million was $13 million last year. It is a hit. I still believe that with what has been said openly by Peppers and his ?? Agent there is NO way he can suit up and walk out on the field at BOFA Stadium without undergoing total ridicule. If he does stay he is going to have to play like he has never played before because he will be auditioning. I believe that the Panthers would hold him again next year and pay $20 million just to make a point. Read what Bill Belichek said about how to properly do business. On last thought, I believe that the Panthers do still hold the option of being able to pull the franchise tag should it become necessary.
Everyone wants to beat up on Fox/Hurney for making bad decisions about how to build/maintain this team. I think that they are in complete control of what they can and will do to preserve the teams assets.
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 11:57:14 AM
A lot of good and interesting comments posted so far.
To be honest, its a lose-lose for everyone right now. Until Peppers signs the 1 year tender, we can't have open dialogue with any suitors, not for Cutler, not for picks from NE, etc.
If he doesn't sign and we don't trade him, then we do no owe him $1MM a game.
If he signs, we don't trade him and he still decides the sit, we fine him every game and collect the $16.7MM back.
If he signs, we don't trade him and he plays.....I don't like this situation. It could be said that he would be auditioning for next year, but anytime you have an unhappy player in your system, it's not a good thing...its contagious.... no matter how well he plays.
Posted by: Jason | Mar 20, 2009 12:13:03 PM
If the Panthers remove the franchise tag, Peppers immediately becomes an unrestricted free agent.
So, you're saying that his agent put him in the position of accepting a 20 % pay raise, going to one of 4 teams he wants to play for, or becoming a free agent and going to play for who he wants to ?
Sounds like maybe he isn't in over his head.
Posted by: Joe Savage | Mar 20, 2009 12:28:09 PM
Until he signs a tender, he is not going anywhere. The agent didn't do any of this. The Panthers offered to make Peppers the Highest Paid Defensive Player in the NFL. Neither Peppers or his ?? Agent even acknowledged the offer. The simple truth is Peppers does not want to be here and the Panthers are not going to let him just walk away for free. I believe you will see something happen over the next couple of weeks. It is all about posturing. It is very clear that it will get done more quickly if he SIGNS THE TENDER.
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 12:57:16 PM
Almost 10% of our country is unemployed and Peepers has been offered 16.7 million on a one year deal for Panthers. He has always been treated with respect with the Panthers. They offered him a contact in the fall that would have made him one of the richest defensive players in NFL history. Yet, Peepers is not satisfied. It really epitomizes a lack of gratitude that many elite professional athletes have. Although I am a die-hard NFL fan, stories like this make me want to cancel my Direct TV service, and stop paying their bills. A real warrior in Nick Goings was cut by the Panthers to make room for a franchise tag for Peepers. Goings was an example of a real professional who ALWAYS tried his best since joining the Panthers in 2001. He was making about 1/8 of what Peepers was, but had a lot more gratitude. He started various games in 2004-05, due to injurious. He never was a starter for the Panthers again, but played his heart out on special teams.
Peepers is starting to be a major distraction for the Panthers and his lack of gratitude is messing them over. They can’t afford a 1st round pick and the only team that might trade for a 2nd round pick is the Pats.
I wonder if Peepers would have the same attitude if he was coming back from Iraq or working two jobs while raising three kids. Have some gratitude Peppers! I would not wear your jersey if it was free!!!
Posted by: panthergeoff | Mar 20, 2009 12:57:32 PM
Panthers made the decision to franchise Peppers so they could get something in return for him leaving. Now Peppers has called their bluff by not signing the tender. That leaves the Panthers in the precarious position of being unable to participate in free agency yet at the same time unable to negotiate a trade.
Sounds to me like Peppers has all the leverage.
Posted by: Sick_Boy | Mar 20, 2009 12:59:58 PM
Panthergeoff Great Comments! I think most people would agree.
Posted by: scoot | Mar 20, 2009 1:00:55 PM
PANTHERS! Keep Peppers. Just get him some help at cornerback...
Posted by: blackspeak,DC,USA | Mar 20, 2009 1:02:07 PM
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