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April 30, 2009

Peppers not expected at minicamp

It appears highly unlikley that franchised defensive end Julius Peppers will attend the Carolina Panthers three-day minicamp opening Friday.

General manager Marty Hurney said he wouldn't want to say definitively that Peppers won't attend until players report Friday.

However, Peppers hasn't signed his contract tender and thus isn't required to attend.

Hurney said he has had productive, albeit inconclusive, talks this week with Peppers' agent, Carl Carey.

"I have had conversations with Carl and they've been positive," Hurney said. "It's part of the process. LIke we've said before, we've been with Julius this past seven years and he's done all he can to help us win game."

Hurney and the Panthers continue to expect that Peppers will play for them next season.

Asked whether he expects Peppers, a four-time Pro Bowler, to report for the start of training in late July or early August, Hurney said: "I don't want to go into our conversations. Our talks have been positive."

Peppers' contract expired after last season. He and Carey said he preferred to move to another team and believed that was necessary in order to reach his maximum potential.

They were hoping the Panthers would not place the franchise tag on Peppers, but the team did.

Other teams could have sought to trade with the Panthers to acquire Peppers before the draft, but none came forward.

It is even less likely now that a team would trade for Peppers, or that the Panthers would entertain an offer, but it is still within the bounds of NFL rules.

-- Charles Chandler

Posted by Observer Sports on April 30, 2009 at 06:48 PM | Permalink


Excuse me?

The Patriots are still in the market for a defensive end, and they have stockpiled picks for next year. The rumor weed says that the great mastermind that is Bill Belichick has been shopping for Julius Peppers for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Julius Peppers trade happen, whenever he decides to sign his contract.

All this means moot if Peppers signs an extension, and it would take a lot to get Peppers at this point, at the very least a 1st/3rd rounder. But it is still a very possible thing.

Posted by: Revshawn | Apr 30, 2009 7:03:51 PM

suck it up peppers, show up be a man. hurney tried to trade you and couldn't get any value because your overrated. a real man would be mad and punish the other teams, but you have no heart it doesn't bother you when people laugh at you.

Posted by: gomer pyle | Apr 30, 2009 7:21:10 PM

I'm sick of this Peppers stuff, if he stays that's fine, if not, well, good bye. If he goes, I hope the Panthers win the the Super Bowl and make Peppers look like an idiot.

Posted by: kenny | Apr 30, 2009 7:24:02 PM

yall aint gonna like to hear this but i am a panther fan and here is what i predict : peppers doesnt go anywhere and most likely will sit out the season or sighn the tender. the panthers will not go to the playoffs and will muster AT best an 8-8 record, thus ending John Fox's and Hurney's tenure at carolina. the panther will then hire you know who , Cowler who is obviously patient enough to wait for the job he really wants. at that time. he will install his trademark 3-4 defense and therefore peppers will remain a panther permanently. the panthers will then be closer to winning the superbowl than they were when kasay booted the kick off out of bounds. the soothsayer has spoken ( btw i said in the beginning of the season in 04 that they were going to the super bowl if they kept davis healthy, i didnt say they would win , i sed they would go )

Posted by: ackthppt | Apr 30, 2009 7:28:42 PM

ackthppt, that's a very nutty scenario. i wouldn't be surprised to see carolina go 8-8, since they don't do back-to-back winning seasons, but a) cowher isn't coaching carolina, b) pepp will not sit out a whole season regardless of the situation. i agree with kenny, i'm about sick of that boy too, at this point it makes no difference to me what he decides to do. boy will we look like idiots if we franchise him and he reverts back to his 2007 self on us

Posted by: Jason | Apr 30, 2009 7:36:40 PM

Pepp, I used to be your biggest fan but now your whiny attitude and grass is greener on the other side mentality shows you are weak. don't let the door hit you on the way out of charlotte...dont come back either. let's see how much potential you show when you are starting for detroit.

Posted by: Dan | Apr 30, 2009 7:45:26 PM

Well ackthppt I gotta tell ya you ain't exactly nostradamus. MOST, including me have said all the above months ago. Schedule released and is 2nd toughest... less O line depth, maybe no peppers, new or not extremely solid CB help, no significant interior D line help we can count on to keep us from being 21st or so in run defense, Delhomme playing his brand of careful or implode football and no new young wide out studs to bolster out WR position... yeah 7-9 sounds more likely and... peppers? dude there are only THREE choices possible... you picked TWO... peppers stays, we hate it and he plays FAIR, then we unfortunately extend his *(&^*& when no one will pick him up after next season and he stays...
The EGOMANIACS making panther decisions will make us CHOKE on Delhomme and peppers... until they get diabetes from all their SUGAR COATING the truth about those two and they get booted.

Posted by: handyman | Apr 30, 2009 7:47:28 PM

ackthppt - there you go again.. Cowher is not sitting around waiting for the Panthers, period.. He could care less, he is watching his girls grow up, and loves being a Commentator. Peppers sitting out a year, is never happening, either. His value, is as high, as it ever will be, right now..If he sits out a year, he will be a 30+ yr DE, that has lost his speed and his will to play. He is starting to realize that now, after taking some bad advice from his agent. This schedule is no harder then any other year, you still have to play 16 games, and win as many of them as you can, to make the playoff's. Panthers will likely be 10-6 or better..

Posted by: Pthrsnmbr1fan | Apr 30, 2009 7:54:34 PM

Scoot: before you get started with your ranting and raving, make sure you take out the trash, do your homework and stop fantasizing about playing football one day. Son, the closest you'll ever get to a football field is by playing Madden. Do something productive with yourself and get off the couch. Dad

Posted by: Scoot's Daddy | Apr 30, 2009 8:18:06 PM

the "soothsayer" is on crack...but quite the speller!

Posted by: O B X | Apr 30, 2009 8:18:52 PM

Here's my prediction. Maybe the fact that no one traded for Peppers during the draft will help us. Peppers thought he'd be high on the free agent market, but obviously he wasn't. If he truly wants out of Carolina, he should know that the best way to do that is to surpass any season he's ever had, productively. Hopefully he will come back and have a 18-20 sack season, to get his market value up. If that happens, watch out. Last year was the first year of an 'experimental season', such as drafting Stewart and Otah, and beefing up the line. We ended up 12-4. We saw where our weaknesses were. We are very close to the championship team weve been waiting for. Barring injury, we're close. We could dominate next year. And don't think Fox doesn't know it.

Posted by: Bill English | Apr 30, 2009 8:19:02 PM

I can understand the worries on the defensive side of the ball, but everyone thinking that this team will suck next year is very confusing to me. I mean we had a great offense that will be even better and a new d-coordinator that actually knows what he's doing and doesn't depend on great players to make him look good. (yes he had bob sanders and dwight freeney, but cb's weren't the greatest in IND and they got the job done) Come on Panther fans, it's a new season let's start getting excited.

Posted by: ANILORAC OG | Apr 30, 2009 8:37:55 PM

Peppers has no heart. Who cares where Peppers go, let it be to a divisional foe and we'll smoke em.

Posted by: Panthers Super Fan | Apr 30, 2009 8:46:33 PM

Peppers is no spring chicken, and although he may be a GOD among Panther' fans, the guy is simply not worth a 1st rounder.

I know the Bears got two 1st round picks for Cutler, but Cutler is still a high quality QB (the face of a franchise) and he's young. Peppers is not. We'd be lucky to get a 2nd for him... and the more he holds out and refuses to play, the less desirable he looks.

Posted by: Brad Baker | Apr 30, 2009 8:57:57 PM

If Pep isn't traded he can't afford to tank it this year. If he does he's absolutely hosed. His value will plummet and people will REALLY begin to question his heart. That playoff game against the Cardinals sure didn't help him any so if he plays only half speed or even less... like I said... he's in trouble. Bottom line, if he stays here, which looks like a likely scenario, he absolutely has to come out and play like a man possessed. And I think he knows that.

Posted by: Huskers86 | Apr 30, 2009 9:05:47 PM

I'd take just a first round pick in next year's draft for him. It's worth that just to dump his salary at this point. There isn't a player in this league worth over a million dollars a game. It's not just that he's not worth that much, but also the damage it inflicts on the salary cap. I really hope he's gone before the season starts and a first rounder in 2010 would be icing on the cake.

I don't understand what he hopes to gain by not signing the tender. You'd think that if he wants to go to a new system, he'd want to be present for all of that team's off-season workouts so he can learn his new role.

Posted by: ClownVomit | Apr 30, 2009 9:51:44 PM

Ole "one play peppers" can do anything he wants to do cause we're gonna boo him every play he steps on that field. We, as fans, are sick and tired of watching him work harder at staying out of a play than getting in on one. A gallon of potential and a tea spoon of ambition. FREAK-BOY

Posted by: stork302 | Apr 30, 2009 10:00:54 PM

What about the idea of Peppers going to the 49ers? They have the Panthers 1st rounder for next year that they could turn around and send back to Carolina in exchange for Peppers.

They are a team looking for a pass rusher and a team that actually has some cap room that might be able to fit Pepper's contract under the cap.

Posted by: icedevil | Apr 30, 2009 10:14:30 PM

all im sayiing is selling our first round pick next year for an Undersized DE reaks of desperation.Lets just hope he turns out to be a Dwight Freeney caliber player or else it could possibly be Hurney and Fox's undoing.

Posted by: Ven | Apr 30, 2009 10:17:05 PM

Hey ackthppt --- Im sure your predictions are about as accurate as your spelling.

Hurney did not try to trade Peppers as it would be a violation of the collective bargaining agreement. Peps is playing a game he cant win and it would be career suicide to sit out a year (ex. Sean Gilbert). The Pats have already made it clear that he needs to do the right thing and sign the tender or they wont negotiate with him.

Although he could end up a Patriot, its not their system to sign big name free agents and pay them more than Brady. Especially a guy that wants to switch to a position that he has never played. I wouldnt pay someone 10 million plus per year on a whim that he can fit in a new position.

Go Panthers!!

Posted by: AZPanther | Apr 30, 2009 10:18:26 PM

btw i think Duke Robinson is the best draft pick we had all draft

Posted by: Ven | Apr 30, 2009 10:21:01 PM

panthers super fan has it right...peppers is not worth the 1st rounder. I have heard from a lot of scouts that say that Peppers gives 50% of the time. Most of the time you forget he is on the field, he gives up on plays. This is worth a 1st rounder AND a 2nd as rumored what Carolina wants. Maybe Carolina should trade Peppers to a team that has a real quarterback that won't singlehandedly lose a playoff game for them

Posted by: chris | Apr 30, 2009 10:23:29 PM

1. Peppers cannot sit out the year. He must play 6 games in order to become a free agent next season.

2. He can't be traded until he signs his tender.

3. If he sits out games, he loses more than a million bucks each game he sits out.

4. If he loses paychecks by sitting out, the money goes back under this year's cap for the Panthers.

Therefore, he will sign his tender and play this year. Whether that comes in week 1 or week 10, is up to him and his bank account.

This info is from Sirius NFL Radio.

Posted by: Authority | Apr 30, 2009 10:30:07 PM

What has JP done to create all of this hate? You people need to get emotion out of the way and think business. Peppers is seen by his peers and other teams as an explosive and athletic DE. I don't care what your opinion is, I agree with them on his abilities. The schedule this year is tough. I don't see why we have the Giants at their home for two years in a row and the rest of the schedule will be very hard. I thought our draft was well rated by the experts. We got a B minus. Not bad but also not great. We have no money for free agents and no first rounder next year. There is NO WAY we will match our 12-4 record of this year. We still have a good team.

Posted by: Steve Gilmore | Apr 30, 2009 10:39:09 PM

thanks for that tidbit of info "Authority". but how come we have to get that from you and not from the writers for the observer.....?

Posted by: Reid | Apr 30, 2009 11:09:13 PM

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